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Good afternoon! Had VSG December 2, 2019 - have since lost a total of 140 lbs. - with another 5lbs to goal weight - thankfully! In the last 5 months I’ve been experiencing ongoing back pain - especially when I’ve been on my feet a good amount throughout the day. I think my back doesn’t know how to adjust with all this weight loss? Have you noticed back pain since losing weight? If so, how are you finding relief?
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Not to be weird, but you look FREAKING AMAZING!! You might be mourning the loss of your girls, but you look stunning in that dress and I don't feel that your girls are that small, honestly.
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They aren’t saying that you have to do it now are they? I wish they could just call and say “we have an opening in three days” 😂. I would do it in a heart beat. My weight has been hovering at 290 for a week. I was hoping it would drop a bit more before they call. I ended up taking my kid to the beach (anyone who has kids knows this is totally considered exercise). mil until now I’ve not really exercised much, I’ve gotten my eating under control (this is where all the weight loss thus far comes from) and I am now at a point where my knees and ankles aren’t in as much pain. Since I can do more... I’m now trying to improve by fitting in exercise where I can.
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Any March 2021 Sleeve Patients?
barbie41 replied to LoveSimcha's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hi, I just had the sleeve Feb 18, 21, so not a March surgery but can relate to you. I too had a lapband that slipped and removed. My pre-op diet consisted of two protein shakes and one regular dinner meal 4 Oz of protein w steamed vegetable. Now I am on clear liquids broth with incorporating water all day. Little sips at a time. I drink a little Atkins protein shake for nutrition. I also eat a jello that takes me all day to eat. I have loss 20 lbs already and don't fell hungry at all. Hope all goes well for you. -
I also would like too be apart of this. There’s no eating pea sized cut meat and chewing it forever and it actually going down. I lost 160lbs by vomiting up pretty much everything. My iron levels are non existent, my hair is falling out and I’m just plain weak. 340lbs felt like heaven compared too the hell I deal with now on times. Then the company all but disappeared. They called a couple times after the surgery and that was it. You tell them there’s something not right, chew more. I can’t hardly get water down.
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Goal weight achieved, but now, how do I eat healthy? Need tips please!
CrowLuv posted a topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
So, I've reached and actually far surpassed my goal weight, and I'm ecstatic about that! However, I am ashamed to confess that, to put it bluntly, my diet SUCKS. I don't even know when it started to, probably over the 2020 holidays if I had to guess. I've continued to lose weight since then, and that's probably why I haven't felt compelled to make healthy changes to my diet. But believe me, I know how wrong that is. I just haven't wanted to face it head on until now. The fact is, I know that reaching goal weight is NOT the end of the journey. It's just starting, in fact. I exercise daily, and that's great, but my eating habits are pure garbage. It's hard to admit this. I'm deeply ashamed of it. To have gotten the privilege of having bariatric surgery, and to, due to that privilege, reach the accomplishment of my weight loss goal, only to treat my body like a garbage can, is a huge disservice to myself and to the golden opportunity I was given. Here's the thing: I don't know where to start. During my weight loss phase I had that down pat, I kept it very simple, which is part of why I don't know what to do with myself now. Being in maintenance, I'm at the point where I don't even know, what do I eat? I do not want to focus on calorie counting anymore (at this point, at least), for personal reasons - I just want to eat healthily. I want to give my body the nutrition it deserves. But what does that look like at goal weight? Does anyone have any advice or resources I could use to help me with this? I don't mean a calorie counter type thing, I mean more like a basic "these are the foods you should eat" type thing, with ideas for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacks. I don't know where to start - I'm embarrassed about that but not so embarrassed as to not ask for help when I need it...and I really do need it. If anyone has any ideas or tips to get me started on how to eat healthy at maintenance, I'd be so grateful, thanks in advance! -
It's been so long since I came here and I'm disappointed in myself for that, it's such a wonderful forum with amazing people.
But I'm back with exciting news: I had my surgery in August of 2019, and I met my goal of 180 by the fall of 2020! And even better: as of today I've far surpassed my initial goal and am now at 156lbs!
In hindsight, I made the goal of 180 never dreaming I would be able to go below that, and yet, in the back of my mind I always knew that somewhere in the 150s would be the absolute ideal for me, I just never thought that would be a possibility, even with this surgery. So this is a dream come true for me!
The mind is a very powerful machine, and I guess my mind clearly said "we're not done here" when I got to 180. I didn't even try to get below it, to be perfectly honest - it took no effort on my part, the weight just kept (keeps?) melting off of me.
That sounds like the worst kind of humblebrag, almost cringe-level - but I truly don't mean it that way. It's just that I'm just completely gobsmacked! I never in a million years expected this to happen!
More good news: I started exercising with a program I'm obsessed with called Essentrics last October - heck, I've only missed a handful of days since I started. I never in my wildest dreams thought I'd be so excited about working out, that it would be the highlight of my day, even. But it is! I always haaaated exercise! But this program is downright enjoyable and I always feel something akin to euphoria at the end of my workouts. That's not an exaggeration. It's possible that doing this is why I kept losing weight, but I'm not sure, because it's not cardio-heavy at all...it's more like just stretching and moving your body, I guess kinda like a more "active" form of yoga, but NOT yoga, it's hard to describe honestly. Nothing fancy, it just really feels good for my body, I can't say enough about it. I can't imagine it burns that many calories since there is very little cardio involved, but I don't know because I don't do math and that's that lol.
But now I have a new goal, and it's a big one: get back to a nutritious, healthy diet (maintenance I mean, not active weight loss). I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I have to be brutally honest with myself, and this is the ideal place to do it - the fact is, my diet SUCKS. I haven't even tried to eat healthily for quite awhile now. I'm so ashamed of myself just typing that out, but I need to face it and admit it to myself before I can fix it.
I haven't participated on this forum for way too long, and that was a mistake. This forum is amazing and filled with such great people who always inspired me so much!
So now I'm back because, even though I'm at my goal, the fact is, this is a lifelong journey - it's not just the weight loss part, it's so much more than that. I need help getting my diet back on track. I need the inspiration and excellent advice I always found here. Just because I'm at goal doesn't mean I'm done - far from it.
So although I'm embarrassed that my diet (currently!) sucks, I can at least give myself credit for finally admitting it and setting my intention to change that. Being at goal weight does NOT mean I'm healthy. It's great that I'm exercising, but if I'm not giving my body the nutrition it needs, then I'm only hurting myself. If I took the giant step of having bariatric surgery, I owe it to myself to follow through with the WHY I did it - which was to become healthy again - and that is sooo much more than a number on the scale.
I'm ready to make the changes necessary to get myself into the healthiest state possible. I won't be perfect, nobody is, but it's time for me to truly commit to giving my body the healthy nutrition it deserves as best as I can. I don't know where to start though, it's like I need an entire education about it. But I'm ready and willing to learn.
I'm so happy to be back here because I know that inspiration is found everywhere here in this forum.
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Belly Sticking Out
ms.sss replied to HealthyLifeStyle's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Unfortunately, from what I understand, there is no real way to spot-lose or target fat loss to a specific body part, other than plastics. Generally, the first place you gain weight, is the last place to lose (while the rest of the body continues to get smaller). For me, its my legs. Even though I am pretty small (overall) now, my legs look bigger compared to the rest of my body. When you were smaller, was your bulk mainly in your midsection? -
I think she meant that you were assuming that your personal experiences apply to everybody. That might be your experience but not everybody experiences the same things after wls. You will feel both real hunger and head hunger as you’re losing weight, it’s part of the process. Your body has to be hungry in order to consume your fat. She meant that calling any hunger someone experiences on their weight loss journey “head hunger” is frustrating because our bodies are actually hungry too. I understand what you meant about not all calories being equal but even if you’re only eating good calories you’re still experiencing a caloric deficit (which is necessary to lose weight) and will thus feel actual hunger. As well as the head hunger from not eating as much/the same things as you used to. I don’t know why people are so easily offended and wanting to fight on these forums. Maybe it’s because we’re all hungry all the time 😂
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Facial Hair
BayougirlMrsS replied to HealthyLifeStyle's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
hormonal..... when i hit 50.... bam. Not sure how old you are, i'm 52 now. I take estrodol daily and i still have a few on my chinny chin chin. on a better note, my hair is growing back in. -
So this is weird.....the hair on my head is thinning, and getting shorter every time I wash it. However, I am starting to grow facial hair, on my chin, and cheeks, and dark shadowing on my mustache area. WTH is going on? Does this have anything to do with WLS? It is freaking me out.
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Has anyone tried using NOOM along with their Surgery?
catwoman7 replied to JordanM733's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I agree with OAGBPal. Follow your surgeon's plan during the weight loss phase - you can always switch to NOOM to maintain your loss (or lose regain, which is unfortunately fairly common) later. -
How much weight did you lose the first 90 days ?
mae7365 replied to Tim C's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
@EllaKop What app do you use to log your weight? That's a really nice summary of your weight loss! -
How much weight did you lose the first 90 days ?
EllaKop replied to Tim C's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I’ve lost 72lbs in just under 5 months. My weight loss has slowed but still losing about 10lbs a month. I’ve upped my exercise since the excess weight isn’t holding me back. I swim 3/4 times a week. Got back in the pool about two months ago after being out for 10 years. Starting to feel like myself again. Excited for you to experience the thrills of this journey! -
Getting sleeved on the 22nd of March in Melbourne and would love some Aussie buddies to chat to! Any other Australians here, either pre or post op? Please share your story with me I’ll go first: my name is Steph and I’m a junior doctor training to be a GP. I’ve always been slightly overweight but then I fell into a severe, deep, treatment resistant bout of depression. I was treated with antipsychotics which, along with the complete lack of physical activity from being hospitalised for a total of 10 months in 2 years caused me to stack on more than 30kg in a short amount of time. Fortunately my depression is now in remission, I’m back at work, and I have been dieting and exercising to keep healthy. Unfortunately that hasn’t resulted in much weight loss, probably because I’m still on quite a few meds. So I decided to try a VSG on the advice of my doctor. I researched for ages and spoke to a lot of people about it and eventually came to the decision that this was the right choice for my health. I’m now 4 weeks away from my surgery date and I’m so excited (and a little bit anxious)- can’t wait for it to be done! So let’s hear your stories, I’d love to get to know you all a bit...
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Hopefully the links below will help some people differentiate between physical and head hunger. I don't know about anyone else but in the early stages of post op, it was difficult to know when I was genuinely hungry as none of the usual clues were there. Only way I knew if I had gone too long between eating was due to hand tremors. I am nearly a year out and still do not get any physical hunger cues as yet, but I do get head hunger cues, and its like they say in the links below, those head hunger cues are for chips, lollies, icecreams. I do lots of distracting myself: reading, going for a walk, going to the gym, chatting with a friend, play games, do puzzles. The longer I distract myself and don't give in to head hunger cues, the less frequent they are. If I give in (which occasionally I do), those head hunger cues come back in full force...until once again I get into distraction mode. I am getting better at ignoring the cues which for me works best, as I am an all or nothing person. I don't moderate well at all, just having a little bit doesn't ever work for me, one little bit mostly leads to all of it. https://www.stlukesonline.org/health-services/health-information/health-topics/head-hunger-after-weight-loss-surgery#:~:text=Head hunger is about eating,are “above the neck.” https://primesurgicare.com/head-hunger-vs-belly-hunger-difference/ https://www.streamline-surgical.com/2017/02/dealing-head-hunger-bariatric-surgery/
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How much weight did you lose the first 90 days ?
Tim C replied to Tim C's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
WOW Dude that is crazy! Any idea why you lost so fast? Did you hve ny hair loss losing weight that fat? It doesn't appear so from the picture. Were you exercising a lot nd eating very little during that time? Thanks for replying and congratulations! -
6 months pre-op WL effect eventual possible total WL?
greenchilegoddess replied to greenchilegoddess's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Oh wow, a lot to think about here (and talk at my surgeon about, if I get to see him again any time soon). I don't think my doctor would even consider DS (it's not on his practice website) and I'm financially limited to his practice because I'm on university health insurance. That still leaves the RNY/VSG issue but hearing from you both helped. It's also really great to be reminded that the average is just the average and does include people who are noncompliant, so a sleeve isn't a hard limit on my success. Here's hoping I end this journey with 100% excessive weight loss. I know I shouldn't focus on that, but I haven't been a normal weight ever in my life and I want a chance at it. I just wanted to also say thank you to all three of you. I wasn't expecting so much kindness and so many time intensive responses, and I'm truly blown away. I'm keeping this a secret from all but one friend for now, and knowing I can come here and talk/think through these things is so reassuring. Have a great week everyone ❤️ -
6 months pre-op WL effect eventual possible total WL?
NovaLuna replied to greenchilegoddess's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was 389 pounds when I started my journey so I had a LOT of weight to lose. On top of that I'm also partially disabled due to two back injuries so I can't exercise beyond walking and right now even that is limited due to some other health issues, so for me I looked at the average percentage to make my choice because I knew I was pretty much relying on the average due to not being able to exercise much. Diet I can do, exercise not so much... VSG average is 50-70% loss of excess weight Gastric Bypass is 50-80% loss of excess weight Duodenal Switch/ Loop DS is 80-100% loss of excess weight So I went with the Loop DS. I chose it because it's the second most aggressive surgery (Traditional DS is #1) and chose the Loop DS because it's the new and improved version of the DS with the improvement being slightly more small intestines so less chance of diarrhea issues... (instead you have the occasional constipation issue lol). You can always lose more than the average. The average includes those that don't follow diet guidelines and don't lose much alongside those who lose way more than the average. The more weight you lose before surgery the better. I lost 68 pound myself during my six month program. I was 321 on my surgery day. I'm almost 13 months post op now and down to 197 (I haven't been under 200 pounds since I was 13... 20 years ago. I just got into ONEderland last week and I still want to cry because it doesn't seem real sometimes). The choice of surgery is a very personal thing. It's something that you have to live with so it's a choice that you have to make for yourself. If you are most comfortable with the VSG, then go for it! I wish you the best in your journey! -
40DD to 36C. Planning Augmentation to replace a bit of my loss 😢😢😢😢
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My hubby hasn't said anything about my boob loss. He was never a big boob guy.
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I love that green dress on you @BayougirlMrsS & that meals looks delicious. Love fillet steak & also scallops yum! Daisy or cluster rings were popular in the Victorian era. They also used a lot of enamel so your ring may have English origins. Love your sweater with your boots @HealthyLifeStyle & congrats on your weight loss - whoo hoo. Hope your sister has recovered fully. Looking good @GreenTealael. I think your arms look fine too. I also keep my elbows in close to my body That dress is beautiful @Cheeseburgh. Excellent find.
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Aetna New Requirements: What documentation for 12 visits?
greenchilegoddess posted a topic in Insurance & Financing
Hi everyone, I'm new to all this, and trying to figure my way through Aetna's new 2020 policy on pre-op program requirements, which now say you can do 6 months of a program previously or 12 sessions over any period of time of an " intensive multicomponent behavioral intervention designed to help participants achieve or maintain weight loss through a combination of dietary changes and increased physical activity" (http://www.aetna.com/cpb/medical/data/100_199/0157.html). My surgeon's office is pretty disorganized right now because of covid, and they briefly brushed me off telling me that my Aetna insurance requires 6 months of supervision. I'm thinking there's a possibility they are not familiar with the new aetna requirements. If you did do the 12 sessions over any amount of time, what did you do? I've seen people talk about doing WW virtual meetings to meet this requirement. If you did that option, what sort of documentation did you provide to Aetna to prove you had been 12 times? Did they accept it? Any guidance or insight into Aetna would be great! I'm a PhD student, so getting this done in 4 or 5 months would allow me to actually get it done before the semester starts and I can't rest as much as I need to. -
6 months pre-op WL effect eventual possible total WL?
greenchilegoddess posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hi everyone, I'm brand new to all of this, and had my initial consult on February 5th. Obviously things were online because of covid, and I hadn't weighed myself in a long time because I used to do that at the gym. In my paperwork I wrote 340 (estimated) but when my home scale arrived I found out I was 370, considerably heavier than I used to be. My problem with weight loss has usually been keeping it off, not getting it off - I've gained and lost 50-65 pounds more than once. Since I weighed in then I'm now at 356. In my head I think well, gastric sleeve patients will lose up to 70% EBW on average, and if I can get down to 300ish by August, that 70% EBW loss will be based on my surgery day weight, not my consult weight. Is that true? Is there a big advantage to losing before the surgery in terms of potential final weight outcomes? Or is my "set point" my set point and there's nothing I can do about it, even if I get down lower on surgery day. I'm so used to hitting a wall after 65-75 pounds and feeling like my body won't budge no matter how little I eat. I'm freaking myself out that if I lose that now in the 6 months before surgery, nothing will happen or I will barely lose weight or I will already be in "starvation mode" and it won't work. Thanks for your help! -
Can I just tell you how powerful I find what you wrote here? That is exactly how I feel, when I am on top of this thing, and not being crazy about food and all of that. I am so grateful for the surgery, and grateful for the healthier, stronger, happier me. One reason why I don't come to this site too often is because of the dogmatic and/or shaming stuff. Like people who claim to have only eaten 400 calories a day for 6 months, and shame people who don't, or who go nuts if someone asks if post surgery people can tolerate an occasional piece of bacon or movie theater popcorn, or respond to someone who admits to struggling or (gasp!) falling off the wagon by becoming some sort of weird bariatric drill sergeant. I know that shaming, cajoling, and extreme deprivation have NEVER worked for me, and I literally cringe when I see some of that stuff on here. And I also know that the food hormones come back, and yes, I am actually hungry! And I most definitely do need 1000 calories a day; I regularly eat 12 to 1400 calories a day and I am still losing weight, albeit slowly. (I also have a thyroid disorder which has impacted the speed of my weight loss). I am one year out, 90 pounds thinner, and still at a "fat" BMI (28); I am 62 years old, and I am not going to be entering any bathing suit competitions! I make mostly healthy food choices, I walk a lot because I like it and it is good for my mental health, and one of the things I really miss is drinking a beer. Of course....that may just be head thirst
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