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6 days out post opp having had a mini bypass in Cancun with Dr. Perez. I am feeling really great, and following my clear liquid diet, they also recommended me take a bariatric protein shake they sold at the hospital which I bought, and have been able to use starting day 3 well I can not stand this protein powder, but I really struggled with my protein shakes with the pre opp phase also after trying 3 different ones and flavours, any suggestions from members...not sure if I can drink the protein drinks 😕 I would rather go through having the surgery again before I have to swallow another ounce😕 I am managing very well with clear liquids and water getting in 70 ounces per day last 3 days.

First Bariatric surgery, yes. They pushed me to walk as much as possible. It did help to get some of the air out. I’m down 13 lbs since 10/10. 103 to go. :) Where do you live? You are a badass for continuing to work in doing what’s best for your health!

Matt, thank you for your input. I have read a lot of your posts so I'm somewhat familiar with what you've experienced. I know part of my mind set is that my mother had the bypass in 2007 and she was diagnosed with multiple myeloma in 2012 (but I think she was already stage four at that point). During her cancer treatments she had a difficult time consuming enough calories (dry mouth, loss of appetite), and some members of the family were convinced that part of the problem with her not getting enough nutrition was due to the bypass. In no way is anyone saying the bypass caused her cancer, just that we think it may have interfered with her getting enough calories. We tried to convince her to eat like it was her job, but I lost her in 2016; they had estimated she had 5 years but she only got 4. To be fair, that type of cancer is terminal no matter what you do, it's always just a matter of time. Another thing is, I rarely have GERD and the Schatzki's ring issue is mostly under control as long as I take my time, chew my food thoroughly, etc......which is what we need to do no matter what surgery we have! I don't know if the bypass would be any different from the sleeve for that specific issue. They suspected I had EoC when I got scoped but the results came back negative, and I had no symptoms with the ulcers. They said I might need to be scoped again to see if things have improved. They put me back on Omeprazole but from what I've read, all bariatric patients are directed to take it post-surgery. I like having the option of NSAIDS and feel like I already have enough dumping in my life, even when I'm not committing dietary crimes! In my mind, I'd rather have a little GERD now and again rather than dumping every day. But of course I would rather have surgery once and not have to get a revision down the line, so I need to consider the bypass. Thank you Lynn and Gaby :)

At five weeks I was plain yogurt and berries in the morning, chewable vitamins only or go to the patch. Broth, cottage cheese, string cheese. Water, water, water ! Sleep, rest heal, don’t worry. Everything will be fine. I’m at 7 months, 149 lbs. down and feeling like a million dollars, riding a bike 10 miles every day. I had major hernia surgery at the same time as my bypass Bariatric surgery. I was a mess. You will be fine, get your stomach right and everything else will follow.

Please Please everyone, follow your doctor's and RDs plan for your pre-op and post-op lifestyle that is appropriate to your particular level of healing, and also, please do your own research! Just to clarify the OP's "facts" for all bariatric patients: Here is the actual study that this inflammatory article was written from. https://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/fulltext/S1550-4131(14)00062-X The ACTUAL study was an association study (and association can not prove causality) where the people were NOT like bariatric patients. They had normal stomachs, averaged 1853 cals per day and were eating a mixed diet of HIGH CARBS and higher-erish fat. They were able to eat the following macros: 1853 Calories per Day on Average=the studied group of participants total caloric load each day: 16% protein (average "normal diet composition" from the ADA is somewhere around 15% of the diet from protein) - about 74g of protein per day. (this is NOT a high protein study) Other macronutrients consumed each day: 51% carbohydrate (this is a high carbohydrate study) 33% fat (this is a study with the fat too high for people consuming 51% of their diet as glucose/carb burners)

For the bariatric patients and potential bariatric patients reading the posters article. Please do your own research and fact check with your medical team about your specific diet plan. @Creekimp13 eats the same amount of protein as any other bariatric patient. She can agree, a bariatric diet is not high protein. It's also not 100% animal protein. You will not be eating 100% protein (exception first out protein shakes while you heal from surgery) You will progres to a variety of other foods. Not all of your protein comes from animal sources You will be adding beans and fruits and vegetables as you progress out from surgery No one is on a NO carb diet. They will come from sources approved on your plan. I will not respond to anymore of this thread. Its intent is clickbait, attention seeking and to cause drama.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/03/04/the-protein-puzzle-meat-and-dairy-may-significantly-increase-cancer-risk/#749e74c058b7 This research describes a "high protein diet" as being a diet with 20% of total calories coming from protein. Since most bariatric patients fit this profile, it is worth reviewing and discussing with your doctor. This is particularly important as you move to maintenance. Why High-Protein Diets May Be Linked To Cancer Risk Alice G. Walton Despite the popularity of protein-rich diets like Atkins and Paleo, new research suggests that it may be wise to steer the opposite way, especially when it comes to cancer risk. In the new study, middle-aged people who ate protein-heavy diets had a markedly increased risk of dying from cancer compared to their low-protein counterparts. But, as always, there are caveats: Protein from animal sources – meat and dairy – was what largely produced the risk, whereas plant-derived proteins seemed to be “safer.” And the rules seem to be different for people over the age of 65. So what are we to do? "There's a misconception that because we all eat, understanding nutrition is simple,” said study author Valter Longo, director of the Longevity Institute at the University of Southern California. “But the question is not whether a certain diet allows you to do well for three days, but can it help you survive to be 100?" In the new study, the team followed over 6,300 adults over the age of 50, to see what effect high-, medium-, and low-protein diets had on longevity. A high-protein diet was defined as 20% of one’s daily calories coming from protein, a moderate-protein diet is made up of 10-19% calories from protein, and a low-protein diet consists of less than 10% protein. People in the study ate, on average, 16% protein, with two-thirds coming from animal sources – pretty typical of an American diet, the authors say. The findings were intriguing: People from ages 50-65 who ate high-protein diets were four times more likely to die of cancer – this is in the ballpark of smoking risk, say the authors – compared to people who ate low-protein diets. Even those who ate moderate-protein diets were three times as likely to die from cancer. And people who ate high-protein diets were 75% more likely to die from any cause, including three times as likely to die from diabetes. The team calculated that reducing protein intake from moderate to low would reduce the risk of death by 21%. Interestingly, when the source of the protein was taken into consideration, things changed a bit. When animal-derived sources taken out of the mix, the mortality risk was significantly reduced: In other words, plant-based protein did not seem to present the same kind of problem as protein from animal sources."The majority of Americans are eating about twice as much proteins as they should, and it seems that the best change would be to lower the daily intake of all proteins but especially animal-derived proteins," said Longo. "But don't get extreme in cutting out protein; you can go from protected to malnourished very quickly." Why the protein-cancer connection? Protein intake influences the levels of the growth hormone IGF-I, which not only affects the growth of healthy cells, but can also encourage cancer cell growth. In fact, in the current study, the team found that for every 10 ng/ml increase in IGF-I, people who ate high-protein diets were 9% more likely to die from cancer than those on a low-protein diet. This growth hormone mechanism seems to be the reason that calorie-restricted diets have been shown to increase longevity in certain species, including, possibly, humans. But again, there are more caveats. IGF-I levels decline over the years, especially after age 65, which is part of the reason that people lose muscle tone and become frailer with age. And the current study bore this out, too: When the team looked at people above the age of 65, people who ate more protein had a reduced risk of death. The protein issue is therefore complex, and will require some more research. But the recommendations arising from the current study, says Longo, line up with those from the World Health Organization and the Institute of Medicine. Longo tells me that generally people should stick with “plant based proteins and/or stay as close as possible to 0.36 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day. This is about 54 grams of protein per day for a 150-pound person… However, going lower than that can be detrimental.” So, it may be wise to watch your protein intake, at least in middle age. And at any age, eating a plant-based diet is probably smart, as study after study shows the near-indisputable health benefits of doing so. "Almost everyone is going to have a cancer cell or pre-cancer cell in them at some point,” says Longo. “The question is: Does it progress? Turns out one of the major factors in determining if it does is protein intake."

I can't say that I had a full on regret, even in the immediate post-op recovery period that was nothing like anybody else's descriptions. However, I do have occasional flashes where I kind of mourn the loss of eating as my coping mechanism/source of joy. That's not to say that I regret by any means and honestly, isn't that what I signed up for? Someone else quoted that remorse comes from indecision. I agree and I believe that's at the very heart of this. This isn't my first rodeo into bariatric surgery. I had lap band in 2005, which was for the most part successful, but had to have it out due to complications. I lived without the band until I returned to some pretty bad habits and gained all of my weight back. It took me almost 2 years to decide if I wanted to go with another bariatric surgery, but once I decided, that was it. I reached a point where I admitted that I just didn't have the tools to go it alone. I committed to the surgery and I no longer considered alternatives. That's my story, but it is very common for bariatric surgery patients to experience regret. And I can't say it any better than @Missouri-Lee's Summit. She totally hit the nail on the head.

Hi there CeeCee2018, there are many Bypassers on Bariatric Pal, although records show RnY and the other bypasses are most prevalent, we seem to run to a majority of VSG and ESG pisters, that said if we are a minority, we are a loud & vocal band of Weight losers Ask any questions you feel you need to know. I am the oldest in years (72) but still a fresh RnY, my surgery was September 5th 2018 after seeking it since August 2015. And no questions are off-limits to me, been around this life for a LONG TIME and have accumulated a lot of wisdom. So pull up a chair, get comfy, now WHAT can WE help you with?😛☔

LOL, I don't "actively" do anything for the site. It simply exists from its creation date. And I no longer post to the blog. But absolutely, do I believe in the ketogenic lifestyle and am very happy it helps people? Oh yes! I live it, just now days, it is adjusted for my RNY surgery and lifestyle. And I seem to remember gifting you copies (FREE) I might add, of each of my cook books. God, maybe you should read some of them, cuz maybe then you wouldn't still look so sick and old--and shall I call it? Fluffy. You still look VERY fluffy, friend. And here you go again blaming me for the second time of giving myself cancer. What kind of woman are you? What kind of woman is so ruthless that you blame another woman for her breast cancer? LOL. Jesus Mary and Joseph. I already explained the genesis of my hormone positive fat mediated breast cancer. Thanks. And that came from my oncologist, not some woman masquerading as a medically educated person trying to pound down bad science and confuse all of the new bariatric patients--advising against eating to their team's plans, and one who is totally without morals that she would dare to accuse another woman of giving themselves breast cancer. You are a nasty, nasty, nasty woman. And yes, that is personal. I won't take it any further and will leave it for everyone to see--that you accuse people of giving themselves metastatic diseases and other horrible diseases such as kidney disease.

Today was my first set of appointments to start the process; nurse practitioner, dietician/nutritionist, and physical therapist. In addition, I got my bloodwork and EKG done. I already have a mammogram and colonoscopy on record. I went in with a positive attitude and I think that helped, I was more excited than nervous. I mentioned that I had been reading the forums on this site to learn what I could and I think it helped me comprehend the massive amount of information I was given because I sort of studied ahead, plus, they gave me a notebook The dietician noted that I take a lot of supplements, and she stressed that I will be restricted to taking only a few after surgery, at 200% the regular dose; multi-vitamin that includes iron and other minerals and B12 sublingual at night, calcium citrate 500mg liquid or chew three times a day, plus vitamin d, liquid or small gelcaps. I forgot to ask about my Wellbutrin and allergy medicine. Oh well, there's time! A lot of people in these forums say NOT to try the drinks, food, or supplements pre surgery, but my dietician encouraged me to try different things to find what I like (even though my preferences may change post surgery). I have already purchased some Protein20 drinks, Premier Protein shakes, sugar free Gatorade, Propel electrolyte water, bone broth, and some Millie's sipping broth samples. My choice is the gastric sleeve but they will probably try to convince me that the bypass is the best option (and "gold standard" as I keep reading everywhere). I was scoped in July and they found a hiatal hernia, some non-bloody ulcers, and Schatzki's ring. I was instructed to continue with the Omeprazole in order to continue to calm my esophagus and stomach. I hope they let me stick with the sleeve, I don't want to deal with malabsorption issues and I prefer being able to take NSAIDS. I have enough dumping from having my gallbladder removed and being sensitive to grease/oil. Today while at the hospital, I had a long break so I had brunch consisting of an egg-salad sandwich (which they said was freshly made that morning) and half a bag of chips. Let's just say I had to visit the restroom 4-5 times during the rest of my time there, ugh! The insurance company has told my hospital (OHSU Portland Oregon) that the procedure is covered, but have not yet responded regarding what they require from me. The hospital requires two nutrition classes and a few more tests. My EKG came back "borderline" so I am being referred to a cardiologist to make sure everything is ok. I made my two nutrition class reservations and psychological evaluation appointment, as well as my sleep study consult. I'm 58 and have had a hysterectomy (1 ovary left) so I'm not required to get a pap smear, review birth control, and they're not requiring that I be screened for drugs & alcohol (I quit smoking 31 years ago). I'm hoping to have it all done by February, but won't know what else I need to do until my insurance company forks over some information! This facility only requires 24 hours of clear liquids before surgery (yay). While I was given my diet information, I think I'm going to slowly incorporate better habits and definitely pay attention to my protein and fluid intake for now. Since my BMI is slightly over 41, I was cautioned not to lose more than 10 pounds because it would put me below the required 40 BMI. That is unless I end up being diagnosed with sleep apnea (I have high cholesterol); neither joint pain or depression qualify as co-morbidities. My lab results have already been provided and they found my ferritin to be low, so I need to begin taking carbonyl iron with vitamin C right away. I've read a lot of different posts of people sharing their program information, so here is my post-surgical diet information from my booklet: STAGE ONE - first day following surgery - CLEAR LIQUIDS STAGE TWO - starting day two post surgery, for 14-21 days - FULL LIQUIDS STAGE THREE - starting 2-3 weeks post surgery, for approximately 6 weeks (depending on how the patient is doing) - SOFT FOOD STAGE FOUR - approximately two months post surgery - SOLID FOOD (low sugar & low fat) Over the weekend I cleaned out my cupboards of a bunch of food and food-like substances; what wasn't expired I took to work. Fed the crows some expired cereal and crackers. Haven't tackled the freezer yet. Since my surgery isn't scheduled yet I have plenty of time! I just wanted to thank everyone who posts their experiences and questions and advice, I think people are very supportive here for the most part!

Forget your lameass surgeon. Call your primary doctor. You need to be treated with antibiotics. This is a disgusting story... not because of your infected bellybutton but because of the way you were treated by your bariatric staff. It's pretty apparent that your post-operative health is not your surgeon's concern. As for his NP, shame on her. Most nurses I know would NEVER dismiss a patient so coldly. You could have developed sepsis! I'd call my surgeon only to let him know that someone else treated the infection that he neglected!

Luckily I had my surgery done almost 2 years ago. ...I am very fortunate ...the last Insurance meeting that I went to for my company said, our insurance is no longer going to cover bariatric surgeries. I don't understand why they wouldn't. Like I said I'm very fortunate it has change my life for the better. Why are they taking something so beneficial...away? Loving Life

After waking up from surgery, and enduring the recovery room, I was wheeled to a non-bariatric floor because it was full. After getting situated. I decided to take it upon myself to go for a walk. Well, we all know where the gas they pump into you goes, I stopped let one rip for what seemed like 30 seconds. I then heard a voice behind me say "did someone start a lawnmower?". I was mortified and hobbled back to my room.

Welcome from a September 5th ENTer who's not having happy times. Told my Bariatric people 2 weeks in, I think I am developing a stricture, Pooh pooh, they said, You're just swollen, relax things are still okay. Guess who was right? Yep your faithful poster, confirmed October 12, I have a 9mm stricture which doesn't,let purees and solids through. Liquids drain slowly through the pinhole into my small intestine. Not too bad on liquids as long as I stay on the 2-4oz every minutes between vitamins,magnesium, calcium, omeprazole, Carafate, Wellbutrin Ditropan(only once a day). And somewhere I work in at lest 2 protein shakes, broths, cream soups, broths, and strained soups with protein powder at most occasions. 8 weeks and I feel like I'm on a infants diet. The best news, I have lost 50+ pounds since July 31st but at what cost to my long-term health!?

Well at least I'm not necro-posting. I hate when that happens! And hey! Speaking of thanks! LOL. Thanks for plugging my keto blog! (Not much to see there folks--especially since I quit updating and keeping it active a few years ago due to terrible lymphedema leftover from cancer surgery and lymph node removal.)--which is probably not that helpful to most of you since it's based on eating substantially more cals in a day than most of us can manage now, and for most of us, the recipes have too high of a fat content (especially us bypassers). Maybe one day when I'm healthy and fit (hey, I can dream!), I will either continue the blog with an update about my WLS journey and begin a new section devoted to bariatric low carb eating--which for me is protein adequate, "lower-er" fat aka moderate fat, and low carb. But for the foreseeable future, I do not envision that happening any time soon. Although, the blog does still help a lot of people -- mostly those ketoneers who do not have altered gut anatomy and have to balance the challenge of eating a very low calorie diet while trying to satisfy their daily protein needs for a healthy life like we do here at BP.

In this study, researchers measured weight within the 30-day period prior to surgery, 6 months after surgery, and annually. https://www.endocrinologyadvisor.com/obesity/roux-en-y-gastric-bypass-outcome-diabetes-surgery-satisfaction/article/811016/ Related weight regain study: https://www.ecnmag.com/article/2018/10/amount-weight-regain-after-bariatric-surgery-helps-predict-health-risks

I drink 100oz - 120oz a day currently, and I have been on the bariatric vitamin regimine for the last 15 days + some weird immunonutrition immune boosting recovery shake. I don't *feel* stressed. I don't know. It is really painful though! I feel like I need something like Accutane, but I am scared to take a medicine that harsh post-abdominal surgery.

I'm in Central Ohio so much south of your daughter, maybe 75-80miles, last time I pulled up Akron , milesvwere approx. 80. My small city is Mount Vernon, pop 20,000, known for the birthplace of Daniel Decatur Emmett, the guy who wrote Dixie and was a minstrel/ vaudeville performer back in the day, Dr. Semple,, a dentist who invented chewing gum as an exercise for his dental patients and was dumb enough to sell out to Wrigley, and the late Actor Paul Lynde, among,other roles he was Uncle Arthur back on Bewitched, and Me. I have lived my whole life in Central Ohio, within a 50-60 mile radius of here. Daddy's family were from one county south, and Mama's from this and the county just to the Northwest. Yeah the roots run deep here. Been here since Indian days, my ancestors were probably the settlers that ran them out. Did you know Ohio is the only state without some sort of tribal reserve. And if you've heard the term " ----in the woodpile, I am virtually sure there are original Native,American. Mr supposition? Well you look AT my family on Daddy's side, the pictures it looks stronger and stronger! Well I am red-blonde, fairly fair skinned, talk for a woman so don't like them, favor my Mama's side, shoot some of them doubted I was Daddy's child. So what do I have to lose by asking? Asked one of Daddy's sisters, she puffed out her chest, drew up to her full 5ft6in height and announced WE DO NOT DISCUSS THAT! Hmmn the pliy thickens, do you have Wikipedia on either your smartphone or computer? If you do, go there and key in "Peoria Indians" the vast amount are now located in Oklahoma. Once upon a time Ohio had a tribe called the Mingo. At the Battle of Fallen Timbers when Ohio basically evicted the Indians off the lands the Great Spirit had entrusted to them, they moved West and merged with Peoria in Illinois. Okay if you gave pulled that website entry on Wikipedia, look at a pleasant middle-aged lady there, spitting image of Daddy's sister, the one who was SO ANGRY at her Frustr8 niece for bringing up the subject. I'm so diluted myself with settler blood maybe 1/16 or so, but it's nothing to be ashamed of, just means I have a little more rights to be here than average. Kent State is an excellent university, have a cousin that received his Masters from there. Case Western Reserve has a great medical school and and I think there is one billed as Medical College of Northeastern Ohio. I had my RNY at Ohio State university in Columbus, which is 48 miles Southwest of here, no Bariatrics in Mount Vernon as yet, May be 2019 or 2020. Every time I frequent my local ER which I do no more than necessary, they do not quite know what to do with me, like a purple spotted giraffe, I am fascinating. The staff has seen a few lapbands, fewer yet sleeves, but I think I am the only bypass they ever have been close to. And I am getting tired of doing tutorials.

Well the taste, Hmmn you need more fluid, yeah I know, easier said than done, remnant of what you ate,last evening but be optimistic, might be fat starting to melt off. Rinse your mouth with Biotene, see if it helps. I'm 8 weeks out and my act isn't totally right yet. Expecting a call from my Bariatric Hospital's Nutrition Department, still not a perfect recovery for me. Trying to remain optimistic in the midst of life chaos.

Well by now you are in surgery if you're in the Eastern or Central time zones, if in M9untain or Pacific zones it's nearly here! Yes I do wish you well & this is a REBIRTHDAY. After today you are forever changed, well it is what you have worked towards, lost weight and now you have to start living it. In many wars this is still a hard lesson, learning is easier than living it. It will be 8 weeks tomorrow for me and things are still not perfect enough to go running towards the goal. In theory I am far along to be under care of Nurse-Practioners and Nutrition/Dietician, had a call into Bariatric department, had a long- standing appt. with orthopaedic , turns,out. thatt is one body area I'm not ready for surgery upon. When I got home , I had missed my dietician's call by 5 minutes, and they had closed that department for the day. So maybe I'll hear this AM, hope so, don't even like getting up. Oh I know I must. Took a dose of M of Magnesia early last evening, had lower abdom. pain all yesterday, wondered if that was it but no results yet, usually wake up and have to go. Miralax keeps it soft but still on liquids,not much gets moved along. But I am basically a hopeful person, keeps me from crying my eyes out💦 over everything.But I wish you a Good Surgery, and smooth days ahead. And my,problems, I can only hope THEY smooth out SOON.

Bariatric sells protein in 1 oz shots. Maybe give that a try? I bought 10 to start. Good luck!

That's bullsht! If I were in your situation I'd go back to that HR person and their boss and tell them that was a HIPPA violation and you are considering reporting it. Same with the Bariatric office. I'd be so pissed!!!

Oh elcee luv, you have,definately beaten my" Peek aboo, incisions I see you" Tale.Glad you're better and,right here with us. We need,our elsee right here on Bariatric Pal!

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