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Drinking Alcohol After Lap Band...
SageTracey replied to thebestmom's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I just volunteer to be the designated driver! I find that alcohol affects me more quickly now than when I was 63kg heavier and it's just not worth the risk of overeating due to lowered inhibitions, or to my driver's license. I still have a great time and I remember it all the next day! -
6 Year Bandiversary- Very grateful for the lapband and this website
aeromech replied to JosieK's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences! It's not only the lifestyle change and surgery, but your attitude towards food and how you "use" it. People don't realize that food can be abused like drugs and alcohol, even severe addiction. It really sounds like you are making real progress in that department. Great work! Keep on truckin'!! -
I'm going on vacation for Christmas, and I will one month the day I fly. I bought a water bottle that is easier to carry around and has a time stamp. I will be taking some protein powder because I need at least one shake a day to meet the minimum requirement. I do not plan on drinking alcohol or anything aside from water or eating any carbs, so I will just eat whatever protein is being cooked where I visit and will snack on deli meat and cheese if needed. I would not lie, I do not care about the alcohol but some of the food that are customary during this time in my country will be missed, not because I really want them but more because it's a cultural thing.
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So, a LP patient goes into a bar . . .
losethemess replied to Ravey's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Ask for a Skinny Girl Margarita next time they are approximately 100 calories. Or you could do Vodka and Crystal Light, bring your own packets in your purse. Instead of Cranberry Juice Cocktails. Get the alcohol with no juice and add Crystal Light packets. -
Being a voice
OutsideMatchInside replied to QueenTiff's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I think the emotional effects on women who are pre-menopausal are not really researched enough. Previously most people who had WLS were older and super morbidly obese. If you are a menstruating woman, the hormone dump from surgery really does a number on you. Until recently I don't think there have been enough young women having surgery for this to be effectively researched. I still doubt it will be. No one in the WLS community really cares about the emotional issue post-op until people are either suicidal, drug addicts and alcoholics. Those seem to be the only extremes they recognize. I'm glad you are feeling better OP. -
I had my first champagne about 6 weeks after my sleeve and I've drunk carbonated drinks ever since - doesn't bother me but I think there's a LOT of variation. It's one of those things I would take very easy first time round and give yourself plenty of time between sips (to buuuuuuurp - a lot LOL!) Also be really careful with alcohol - you may find your tolerance is virtually zero after surgery.
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I have had non alcoholic champagne, it did bother a little the first time but if you wait a few after serving is good. I have had ginger ale and some sip of soda and had no issues, but my program says no carb Sent from my SM-G960U1 using BariatricPal mobile app
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Local support groups
Danny Paul replied to Kay2016's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Kay I go to a few support groups. My surgeon has a twice monthly group meeting of pre and post op patients. The benefit of these meetings are the chance to talk to pre op patients about what they will experience. The meetings did help me pre op. As for post op, we compare notes and root for each other and give support. I also go to a group meeting that my therapist has. The meeting isn't productive. Everyone talks over each other and there is no structure for people to participate. It's the loudest and pushiest that get to speak. I actually go to these meetings for the entertainment value as I don't get much therapeutic value out of them. My last support group is Overeaters Anonymous (OA). My therapist was able to show me that I was a Compulsive Overeater. No matter how much weight I could lose it would only come back due to my compulsion to over eat. OA is based on the same 12 step program as Alcoholics Anonymous. It is a very good fellowship that helps to get one spiritually grounded and to help with the compulsion of overeating. I attend a few meetings a week and I also have a sponsor who I call every day for guidance and support and to help me be mindful of my eating habits.. Any support group that you feel comfortable with and that will help you succeed is worth joining. I know that I cannot be successful on my own. I am 100% successful in failing at all of my previous attempts to keep my weight loss off. I take it one day at a time. If I can be successful today then I try my best to carry that success over to the next day. So far, I'm doing better than I thought I would. I'll be 18 months post op at the end of this month and I've been able to achieve my goal weight and maintain it. How long can I do it for? I don't know. I do know that I will never again get the advantage that I now have from the WLS. I don't want to squander this "Golden Ticket" that I've been given. Good luck in your weight loss journey and I wish you much success. -
Ugh... side effects of rapid weight loss
momof3_angels replied to momof3_angels's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Yep, doing that too! More fluids, more salt, no alcohol (not that I was drinking any anyway), regular exercise to promote blood flow, smaller more frequent meals... etc etc etc -
Moment of weakness, grateful for my surgery
Orchids&Dragons replied to Swanton_Bomb's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Definitely. But if you hold yourself to a "perfect" standard, you're bound to fail sometimes. We all need to practice getting back on the wagon after a misstep. I know I am prone to the "I already blew it for today, so what the hell" attitude. And then one day turns into the rest of the week, rest of the month, etc. That's what I love about these forums, we understand each other. Remember, alcoholics don't "need" alcohol, but we all need to eat. -
It won't help in the long term, but sniffing rubbing alcohol will help nausea subside immediately. It is weird, but it works!
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Anyone wake at night with acid in their throat?
BlackBerryJuice replied to weightnomore's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Sometimes I get really bad reflux around bedtime - maybe 2-3 times a month? I don't take my Nexium anymore. I'll just pop an antacid and it goes away in a few minutes. Some ways to minimize your odds of getting reflux at night: 1) avoid eating right before bed, especially fattening or spicy foods 2) avoid coffee and alcohol in the evening 3) prop yourself up on pillows - or, alternatively, put some books under your bed legs at the head end so your bed is propped up. I've heard this also helps with puffy eyes in the am! -
Oh thank God it’s not just me. I’ve never been pregnant, but it feels like a hormonal craving. I find myself with the frig door open, eyeing the pickle jar whilst looking around to make sure nobody’s watching my weird obsession with pickle juice! I’m going to look for the drink! I can make my own alcohol-free cocktail!! Thanks so much!! P.s. I eat the pickles too, sometimes. That crunch & burst of pickle juice in my mouth - Nirvana! 😂😉👍🏼
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Food addict...I need to start again
miketter replied to Jaghomer's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Take a look at a 12 step recovery program. Replace the word " alcohol" with good. The 12 step program has worked for me with alcohol. I've heard of it working with other addictions (food, work, etc). I had surgery Dec 30th. Had to lose 30 lbs before. The first 10 lbs were the hardest. Once I lost 10 lbs, it motivates me to keep on track. I would eat healthy for 6 days and have one day I would eat what I wanted, but would keep away from the carbs. Good luck. -
Has anyone started drinking alcoholic beverages after being sleeved? If so, how's that going for you?
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Alcoholic Beverages
BuffaloBill replied to I AM NOT MY SIZE's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I feel like it takes alot for me too feel drunk.. beer does not sit well at all. But alcohol I'm afraid to see how much I can drink. But I've drank a good amount and never feel drunk. Pre op I used to get the worst hangovers. Now they're non existent. I have no clue . Don't make sense to me Sent from my SM-G935T using BariatricPal mobile app -
Over Weight Since Child Hood... Anyone Else?
honk replied to wannabhealthymedic's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I have been overweight my entire life; except for for when I lost significant weight at 13, and over 100 pounds at 18, and 30. There was a British study done a while back that showed in families where the men are alcoholics the women are obese. That is certainly true in my family. I think it shows a propensity toward addictive behaviors. I had to attend mindfull eating sessions as part of my preop. These sessions were really helpful to me. I have to actively decide not to eat fatty/high calorie foods; probably like an addict has to actively decide not to have a smoke or a drink. This is why my diets never worked in the past because it is mentally exhausting to constantly be chosing only healty foods. With the band if I do make poor choices it helps me eat less of them. -
I had a drink fairly early, 3 months out. Joke's on me, I don't get a buzz from alcohol anymore, just a wicked hangover.
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CAN you eat vs SHOULD you eat
Ssze1109 replied to ShelterDog64's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Wow. This is quite sad. While I don't defend people who are asking about funnel cakes etc... I do have a somewhat different perspective. Not everyone is intelligent or has common sense. Many people (me ) were self pay and had NO pre op classes, no nutritionist, no counseling, no booklet to refer to. My friend on the other hand had all of that plus a huge binder to refer to. Thank God I'm in the medical profession and read what I needed to. We all got overweight for different reasons. Some lack of education, some emotional trauma, lack of money or resources, hereditary, or any other reason we know nothing about. The sleeve didn't cure them but then the sleeve didn't cure their mind either. It's like an alcoholic---just because he is in the 12 step program doesn't mean he knows it all or can control it. They go to seek advice and help -so do some here. No one is perfect and yes they might need justification but maybe that is their coping mechanism that they are working thru. Let's hope they are successful with whatever coping mechanisms work for them (instead of food) Yes , there are trolls and really dumb questions but we are not in their shoes and don't know their intentions or reasons. I see patients who are on 5 liters of oxygen but still smoke, I had a patients husband tell me he puts 18 sugars in his coffee and gives his diabetic wife juice with no idea it had tons of sugar in it. I have patients that have no idea what a carb or Protein is. I don't ridicule them or make them feel dumb. I try to educate them. I think everyone hopes to be a success story and be around to help guide others. But unfortunately the sleeve doesn't do the work and there are so many people that need support whether it's to educate or listen or just let them vent. Yes we all know it should be common sense not to eat Cookies, cake and candy. But if someone takes the time to ask maybe you will be the ONE voice of reason that helps them on their journey and gets thru to them. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
CAN you eat vs SHOULD you eat
Hammer_Down replied to ShelterDog64's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was self pay in Mexico. I read on here and dozens of publicly accessible medical journals through NIH, NHS and Health Canada before even making contact with the surgeon in Mexico. I started receiving preop emails around the time I was to begin and have received weekly post op care emails each week since surgery. I also fortunately had a long history (of success) with low carb and ketogenic diets, and unfortunately also with drug and alcohol addiction and other self destructive behaviours. The latter contributed to my weight gain, and I made a decision to get totally clean and chart a new path for my health and sanity. Perhaps that's why I don't mind straight advice. I can't get down with Jesus or higher power BS and thus 12 step programs were never on my radar. I indulged myself in information and tried to educate myself as well as possible about any and all possible outcomes. This has always been my approach, and I totally accept that it's not for everyone. Some people want information presented to them personally on a silver platter and some of us need to be muckrakers and find it ourselves to believe it. What I can't accept is anti-informational people. People who don't want the truth and are happy subsisting in an echo chamber of what they want to be true instead of what is true. People who want sympathy instead of empathy. -
Actually, I didn't read the study wrong. Per the study: "a relative increase of more than 50 percent compared to pre-surgical rates." Ten percent is roughly 50 percent greater than 7 percent. Also, the study defines alcohol use disorder as alcoholism. Yes, the study involved RNY and lap band participants. However, several factors tie it to sleeve patients. The study authors and other doctors suggested that the reasons WLS patients may turn to alcohol could be that they are tired of strict rules about what they eat and drink or that they may develop new social lives that include drinking after losing large amounts of weight. Another reason suggested is that extremely obese people lose some of their tolerance for alcohol consumption when they lose weight. Every one of these potential causes is the same for the sleeve as they are for RNY. Not one of the suggested reasons is related to the difference in surgical procedures for RNY vs. sleeve. The important thing is that we all be aware of these results so that we have information to consider it we choose to.
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I couldn't agree more. The fact is, the hypotheses they are making about lifestyle changes and so-called transfer addictions (even if they don't use those terms, I can't recall now -- I read that study a couple of weeks ago, but didn't re-read it today) from WLS patients in general are IMO entirely unsupported empirically at this point. The only evidence regarding the increase in alcohol abuse is the mechanical/physical change in bypass patients, where they absolutely metabolise alcohol differently than a non-bypassed person and this is very relevant to alcohol issues. I have not seen any convincing evidence yet that restriction-only procedures (ie, sleeve, band) lead to increased alcoholism (or drug abuse, etc.) in any significant way. I'm open to the evidence when they produce it, but I've just not seen it yet. The idea that newly thin people go off the 'deep end' and party too much and turn into big sluts is just as much a stereotype, IMO, as the stereotypes we've all had projected on us about being fat, lazy, dumb, etc. All that said, to the OP -- I think it's fine that you celebrated your 21st, happy belated b-day to you. I also first had a drink a month or two post-op (had to drink some champagne for a friend's birthday, oy bubbles on top of it LOL). I drink wine at least once or twice a week usually and I haven't had any problems with that. It's a personal choice, I think -- and unless there are health issues or addiction problems, it's not a 'wrong' personal choice. I chose to tell VERY few people about my surgery cos I don't like people knowing my personal business. That said, even if people did know about it, I wouldn't try to explain much or 'convince' them about it. That's often a waste of time. I'm fine for them to have their opinions, their perspective isn't relevant to my life most of the time, so I just keep the conversation polite and the topic brief. What other people think about me is none of my business anyhow...
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I dont separate eating and drinking, that really only lasted for me the first 3-4 months. I drink about as much as I used to which isnt very often but its rarely ever beer as it really fills me up. Alcohol still hits fairly quickly when I do drink. Portion sizes stabilized at around 12 months and has remained the same. As a whole I feel I have made sustainable changes for the long term and largely retrained my brain on portion sizing.
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Am I worth it..
Sleeve_Me_Alone replied to alexpap's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
You are absolutely, unequivocally, unquestioningly worth it. [emoji173] And BECAUSE you are worth it, I would HIGHLY suggest getting into counseling before surgery. Transfer addiction is a very real risk and if you're already struggling with alcohol it could be incredibly dangerous post-OP. Counseling can also help you navigate your grief, and help you learn to love and value yourself in a way that sets you up for success. You are worthy and loved and we need you here. [emoji173] Sent from my SM-A205U using BariatricPal mobile app -
I remember eating a lot of those. Just make sure the sugar alcohols aren't giving you the runs.
