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There is evidence that RNY Patients are at a very high risk of alcoholism post-op. I would suggest asking your nutritionist. And research it.
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Also as I honestly think about it, before I got my NEW band placed last year, I was eating out at restaurants with my hubby, and not paying attention to types of food I was eating, I was 7 years out, living life. I had been eating LOTS of spicy food, salsa, etc, which caused gastritis, which CAN lead to ulcers, however, it did not get that bad, but when you have a lap band LONG TERM, you have to always be mindful of spicy food, too much alcohol, etc..... I think this contributed to inflaming a hernia which caused pain, and a revision surgery....so BE CAREFUL
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Not absurd at all, the lap band can be very dangerous if rules are not followed, some people vomit their food EVERY SINGLE DAY, never follow rules, drink alcohol daily, carbonated drinks, never follow up when they have problems, keep the band dangerously too tight, etc... Usually when the band erodes, some surgeons will revise the patient to the Sleeve, Bypass or DS, but usually NOT at the same time, sometimes some surgeons will remove most of the stomach after a bad erosion and create a Sleeve like stomach. However, no one really know why band erosion occur, some surgeons speculate it can be caused by several things below: 1. The LapBand around the stomach gradually erodes into the stomach wall over time, and goes into the gastric lumen, as we have seen with other intrabdominal devices. 2.The stomach damage done during the LapBand procedure debilitates the layers of the stomach wall, resulting in erosion at a later time. 3.The sutures were placed too deep and trespassed all the wall layers of the stomach, causing micro perforations that generate leaking, infection and later erosion. 4.Events that happens inside the stomach, such as frequent vomiting, medications, ingestion of irritants as spicy or hot food, alcohol, etc. as well as a large adjustment to the band system, will produce an ulcer that penetrates toward the balloon of the band. http://arturorodriguezmd.com/lapband-erosion/
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I am on day 9 of my 14-day pre-op diet. I cheated today and ate an Atkins candy bar/snack thingy. I feel bad, well sorta ) However, my real question is about after surgery, will these Atkins items be something we can eat? Caramel Nut Chew bar 1-G sugar 130-calories 2-G Net carbs The back says 17-G Carbs, but 6-G dietary Fiber and 1-G Sugar and 9-G Sugar Alcohol. Any information would be great. Thank you.
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Down 111lbs & feeling great!
ste_fun_ny replied to ste_fun_ny's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thanks everyone!!! It's hard to say if I stall often because I stay away from the scale!!! At the beginning I would weigh myself every day morning and night but then I started getting obsessed so I had to stop. Now I weigh myself maybe once or twice a month. But I can really tell in my clothes I bought a size 18 pair of jeans the day before I left to new York and today those jeans are too big on me. My advise to you is work out everyday atleast 45 minutes of cardio eat only food that had nutritional value for your body (lean meats, veggies, fruits) stay away from sugar (except natural sugars like fruit) I don't drink sodas or alcohol I don't eat candy (my favorite) and when I eat I serve myself on a child plate. Sometimes I over serve myself on that child plate but I eat slow and before you know it I'm full and have to throw away food because I can't eat it. So make sure you are paying attention to your serving size. Bad habits are sometimes hard to break but it gets easier just have Yup find away to make it fun for you. Good luck everyone and happy losing!!!!! -
Skinny Cow - I Think I Am Hooked! What Are Your Guilt Free Treats?
GuyMontag replied to Kiskis's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I have to be careful of anything that has sugar alcohols otherwise I suffer gastrointestinal distress!!! LOL! -
So yummy. So easy. 1/2 Spanish Onion, chopped or diced 4 pieces of garlic, chopped or diced 2 tbls olive oil or unsalted butter (your preference) Saute onion and garlic in large deep pan w/ olive oil or butter until golden brown Add 1 green and 1 red bell pepper, sliced into thumb sized chunks Stir continually Add approx 1 lb of Brussels Sprouts, stem removed and halved. Add any leaves that fall off too Add 1 package skinless tukey smoked sausage, sliced... Cont to stir until veggies and sausage are browned. Set aside 3 boneless skinless chicken breast, cubed, and tossed in 4 TBLS of flour, a teaspoon of salt and teaspoon of pepper 2 tbls of olive oil or unsalted butter (your preference) in a separate pan Added breaded chicked and cooked until golden brown Add chicken to veggie/sausage pan scraping along any breading that stuck to the pan Put collective mixture back on the heat Add 1 can of reduced sodium chicken broth Add 1.5 - 2 cups of dry white wine Stir. Cover. Simmer on low-med heat until wine reduces, and cooks out the alcohol, the veggies are tender, and the chicken in cooked through Serve over low carb angel hair Pasta
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Yes there are some here that have experienced crossover addictions... I have, to a smaller degree experienced it. I've never had an drug or alcohol addiction. But I come from a family with both (my mother and brother) This is a post from me some months back.... Comfort.. It's why I ate. Numbing myself with each bite, from what? Past trauma? Disappointment? Boredom? Life? The answer? All of the above. As you know a lot of us struggle with addictive personalities here. If you've been around here you've heard me talk about my problem with the pain meds at night, I started taking them in the evening ( the same time I did my best eating) long after I "needed" them.. I shocked myself because drugs or alcohol have never been a problem for me. It's like an addiction is waiting around every corner just waiting for me some days. I've been sick this last week and had bad allergies to top it off. I have always stayed away from Benadryl because I have a bad drugged type reaction and then it knocks me out. Well a few days ago I got so desperate I took one, worked awesome! I went back for more the next night. Last night I couldn't find them, my husband took them. He said I know you just want to knock yourself out.... Was he right? Maybe. We have additive personalities, and we are sneaky beings. So we are always looking for ways to fill that hole. My husband knew about the pain meds in the beginning because I told him. That's how he knew to take the Benadryl away and confront me on it. You need to do the same. Shine a light on the problem, talk to a close family member, friend, and counselor. And us of course,
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it's very common. more common than people think. I haven't had surgery yet, but I have a history of addiction with over 3 years clean and in recovery. no reason to be ashamed, and it's awesome that you're recognizing that you might be having an issue. flush the pain meds and no drinking. talk to someone you trust. attend some 12 step meetings (narcotics anonymous, alcoholics anonymous, overeaters anonymous etc) and find some support. you are welcome to message me anytime. there are quite a few ppl on this site that have had issues with addiction/ coping. I wish you luck.
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I'm not having any issues with it i'm only 4 Weeks out of my second surgery just think that i might have problems with alcohol, or even pain meds, however right now i'm waiting for a call back from a psych. And hopefully well bee seeing me within the next week I need help!
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I had my surgery in dec and my outlet is a snickers bar. I never did drugs or alcohol so no that's not an issue with me. The therapist that we had before surgery said that some turn to alcohol and I may since I can't overheat in food. I laughed in her face. A coworker that had the sleeve all she talk about is drinking. She did four wks out and was bragging that she didn't get sick. I pray she don't get addicted. Are you honestly having issues with addiction to something? If so, we are here to talk if you need to.
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I can't post in the veterans forum so I'll ask here... I know its tough too admit but please answer honestly... Has anyone that has had there surgery for more then a year become dependent on some kind of outlet (other then food of course)? Maybe drugs, alcohol, any kind of pills, anything?
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Dumping? (TMI sorry) I gotta know
DLCoggin replied to Pam Peltz's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
A deal is a deal! You did your part. Now for mine. I have had reactive hypoglycemia about five times over almost two years. On two or three of those occasions I ate an orange (and a small square of year old chocolate that my wife found somewhere the first time I had it). Symptoms have always disappeared completely in 20-30 minutes. In the case of the most recent problem, we were out of fruit and the closest thing at hand was a Protein bar with 17g of carbs, 2g of sugar and 4g of sugar alcohol. It also did the trick and symptoms were gone in 20-30 minutes. But now your PCP has me wondering. Fruit is considered a "simple" carb as opposed to a "complex" carb. I have read that including complex carbs in five to six meals a day will help to avoid hypoglycemia. The idea being that complex carbs take longer to digest and help keep blood sugars at a desirable level over a longer period of time. In other words, complex carbs will help you avoid hypoglycemia in the first place. Makes perfect sense. But it raises the question if doctors make the same complex carb recommendation if you are already hypoglycemic? It's too late to avoid it. The question is how to resolve it? And I would add resolve it as quickly as possible (it's definitely not pleasant)! My understanding is that simple carbs are digested more quickly, which raises blood sugar levels more quickly, which in turn should resolve the hypoglycemia - more quickly. Now to be my own devil's advocate - I have often wondered if eating too much simple carbs while hypoglycemic has the risk of creating a yo-yo effect. In other words if you ate two or three oranges, hypoglycemia would be temporarily resolved, but blood sugars could spike again, and then crash AGAIN in response to the increased insulin prompted by the spike. So you're right back to being hypoglycemic. I have never experienced this scenario but on the surface of it, the logic would seem sound. Hopefully someone a lot smarter than me will weigh in on this! -
September Sleevers...! Come on in and chat!
ImLooznit replied to birdmadgirl's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
PLEASE, I pray all of you have MOM.... MILK of Magnesium in your pantry, IF NOT SEND FOR IT ASAP.! after about 3 days after surgery you will need to "evacuate" the premises" MOM is the fastest and best way!!!!.. Take a tablespoon........ if that does not get the "movement" going, take another TBSP... remember MOM is your FRIEND........ Stay close to the bathroom as she will make you RUN, .. BUT you will be so relieved and HAPPY that you took it...............I did not KNOW this PRE my surgery...... and OMG............ I know what $hitting a brick feels like......... I even gave myself enemas...... it was SO PAINFUL......... they did NOT HELP................ MOM LOVES YOU...........and will make it all RUN smoo0ooothhhhhly......... just stay close to the bathroom. UNTIL u feel good enough to go a FEW days..... take MOM......... you have to keep the stuff moving OUT....... SMOOTHLY for u to FEEL GOOD Best of luck to all you "newbies" Follow the directions the DR gave u, or ASK a SR Sleever!!!!! Lots of Dr's from Mexico DO NOT GIVE DIRECTIONS!!!!! us OLDER SLEEVERS are HERE TO HELP.. Drink your water.......NO ALCOHOL for MONTHS.............. You just had a life changing surgery!! YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES~~ IF U WANT TO SUCCEED!!!! Bottom Line.........IT IS UP TO U..; DO NOT LOSE 50 LBS and THINK U can CHEAT......... YOU WILL FAIL >>>>> BIG TIME>>>>>>>>>>>> BBBBBIIIIGGGG TIIIIMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Do NOT come back in 18 Months and say I had the sleeve and I have GAINED 50 LBS YOU WILL FAIL and YOU were not sincere when you had the surgery.... NOR were YOU serious.......... YOU need to look DEEP within and get serious. The Sleeve is NOT the ANSWER///////// U R...U have to DO WHAT IT IS TO LOSE AND KEEP IT OFF!!!!!!!!!! Drink that water and best of luck to YOU!!!!! I AM here to HELP!!!! -
Ohhhhhhh this was a bad weekend. Bridal shower and bachelorette party. So many good foods and gah a lot of alcohol. I knew it was going to cause a gain. I already had my game plan set for Monday on how to get back on track. This weekend has been so out of the norm since surgery and I feel miserable. Bloated. Water retention. Dehydrated. (In between festivities water was all I drank) Thank goodness I don't do that stuff every weekend. I'm just not cut out for it any more. I'm actually excited to go back to my normal way of eating.
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What's wrong with wanting to see a stripper?
oldoneyoungagain replied to TinyMamiOf3kids's topic in Rants & Raves
Tiny I am so sorry you are in the situation that you are in, keep you head up. I relate in someways as to what your husband is doing. My ex was five years younger than I. Remember I said ex. I caught him in bed with another woman who was only 6 years older than his oldest, if that much. Well, he asked me to give him sometime to work it out, about getting a divorce. Papers were served within two weeks of that conversation. It tore me up, but I got the best attorney and got everything I wanted. Then a year later I met my last husand and had the most wonderful 12 years of my life, as it seems he did to. My ex went on to marry his alcoholic girlfriend (he also became an alcoholic) a few months after I got married. Karma does have a way of coming full circle. She continues to dissapear and sleeps with other men, ex has had a heart attack, now diabetic, cancer, and full blown emphysema. She has been diagnosed with full blown cirrhosis of the liver. In the meantime he still tries to control her because he wants to strut around crowing about "look at my catch, I've got a younger woman". But for that control he lost all the respect of his children and friends. You are a survivor and there is something better for you out there for you. Keep your head up. -
I Became A Drunk After My Gastric Sleeve Surgery
ProudGrammy replied to YearningToBeThin's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
donewithdieting your hard work of losing 74 lbs and "losing" alcohol - what can i say??? very happy for you!! can't relate to the drinking, but i think some/many/most of us can relate to being obsessed over food - so drink is right there too raising my wine glass (filled with Water ) to your health and happiness best of luck to you kathy congrats -
Ok, on MFP I range from 21 grams of fat to my worst day of 42 (I ate 3 oz of pork steak which even though I cut the fat off MFP still counts it). Here is my program's plan for regular foods (which starts this coming Tuesday for me had I followed their timeline) 3 meals a day. 20 G of Protein AT LEAST per meal with a goal of 60-70 per day. Less than 40 G of carbs. No specific goal on fat, but remember to eat lean meats and cut fat off of fattier ones. Approximately 800 calories max a day. Their sample meal plan for this stage however includes a light Breakfast sandwich made with egg white, turkey sausage, and a whole wheat english muffin. According to MFP, this meal consists of 27.5 carbs, 250 calories, and only 12 grams of protein! This is using Thomases muffin, jimmy dean turkey sausage, and great value egg whites. This would leave me with only 13 carbs left forthe day and not enough protein in my first meal. Calculating this has seriously made me feel like my program has not considered their plan thoroughly. Although they are a center for excellence. The timeline is 2 weeks liquids (nothing particles or cream) 1 week thick liquids (include thin yogurt, cream soups) 1 week pureed foods (still pretty thin) 1 week mushy foods (applesauce consistency) 1 week soft foods (for some reason can include very very toasted bread chewed to a paste-like substance and iceburg lettuce) After 6 week appt can do all foods except: Pasta til month 4, corn, fresh fruits and veg until month 2, steak until 6 months, other lettuces in month 2, alcohol for 1 year, carbonated drinks 4 motnhs if ever. I think that is everything. Also, the NUTs give differing food intake advice from the PA. I haven't seen the surgeon since I was in the hospital. My program farms people through efficiently so the surgeon is not a very important part of the program after he performs the surgery. B
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I suspect you did that because like many of us, you are a food addict. Any addiction makes no sense whether it's food, alcohol, drugs, gambling, etc. You can't change what you've done so just know not to do it again. I'm assuming you are on the pre-op diet currently. If yes, this is how you stay compliant. Remind yourself that if you cheat, your liver might not shrink sufficiently, and then you don't get banded. That should inspire you to stay on track. Then know that post-banding, once you start to get restriction, you should be able to control the addiction because you will really suffer if you are not compliant and with restriction, you will not be so hungry and will make better food choices and do better with your portions. I went into this process because I had no choice. I didn't want to do it unlike so many others who were so excited and happy to get banded. I had to do it as I had mobility issues and needed to have joint replacement surgery and at 267 lbs, I wasn't a candidate for surgery. So know that I went into this kicking and screaming. My doctor was hoping I'd lose enough weight in a year...I needed to be under 200 lbs. Well, I met the goal in six months, and now 8 months after starting my pre-op diet, you can see by my ticker that I am down 86 lbs. and my surgery is scheduled for next month. Believe me, if I could be successful, anyone can be. So...good luck to you...stay compliant, and you too will succeed!
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Good info guys, thanks! Zingy, I did notice that I could eat more when I drank during my meals. So, I am definately sticking to no drinking during the meal. It does put a damper on having a glass of wine with dinner. But I guess we shouldn't be drinking alcohol anyway. I am trying to be really good this time and get all the rules down. Any veterans know of any good basic breakdown of lapband do's and don'ts literature that I can brush up on? Thanks!
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I Became A Drunk After My Gastric Sleeve Surgery
donewithdieting replied to YearningToBeThin's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
How is everyone doing? I'm sober since Feb5 2013. `7 months. Never thought I would be a drunk but I know I can't touch the stuff anymore. Made it to goal a week ago. and am working on maybe another 5-10# lower leeway. Doing my eating from noon to 8 pm daily. I like this I don't go to bed stuffed. Occ. will be hungry but I sleep much better. If I have cravings for alcohol I will just take my L-glutamine and I'm good. I don't go to meetings I'm doing this on my own w/ help from these forums. Lets keep this forum alive. Linda -
sugar alcohols?
kennedyallin replied to moonlitestarbrite's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
The reason sugar alcohols can sometimes create intestinal problems is because some of them (ie, Xylitol, Malitol) are not absorbed by your body and go straight through you. Erythritol, however, does get absorbed and is filtered out by your kidneys. I like this one the best. I use it to make cookies and muffins. From the research that I have done the benefit of these are that they do not cause tooth decay and they do not create an insulin response like other artificial sweeteners. -
Other than the stuff above. You may want to take a robe since you'll be walking the halls. I would ask the nurse to saline lock my iv so I could use my robe and walk comfortably. And I also bought a clip on desk fan at target for $10 ( it's with the dorm stuff). It was an incredible idea. I clipped it onto the side rail so it could blow in my face. The pain meds made me really hot. As well as when the anesthesia was wearing off and when I started drinking Water I would get nauseas... The fan helped. I also asked the nurse to leave me several alcohol pads in the room. Smelling it when you feel nauseas really helps. I would carry alcohol pads with me when I was walking the halls (started doing this after I gor nauseas walking and had to stop at a random nurse's station and ask her for some). Good luck!
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Surgery in 4 days, Nervous energy and Unsatisfying reactions from people you're close to.
MissErika replied to endless80's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had that same problem with my family and friends. They did NOT want to hear my "negative" thoughts about the surgery. When really, how is it negative? In any major surgery there is a risk of death. It may be extremely rare but it's still a risk. And yes, the most unlikely people do tend to be the ones that care the most. I think that's because the people who love you the most may be in denial. Or I could just be rambling. I had all of those thoughts about my surgery too. I was scared of waking up in the middle of it, or with a breathing tube in, or a leak but funny enough I just couldn't stop smiling the day of surgery. I wanted to get it over with because I waited too long and I was excited. Everyone came to speak with me before sending me to the OR and I got a lot of reassurance and support from my team. Also, they gave me a "alcoholic drink" before surgery. I was sooo relaxed in that OR I am pretty sure I was slurring and was like, "Lets do this!!!" They don't want you to panic or be afraid, though it's expected. I believe all hospitals give you that relaxer but I could be wrong. Also, think of the future. Be aware of the risks but imagine how much healthier you will be. Imagine how much happier you will be. Imagine you running marathons and looking good in jeans and not being tired all day. And yes, it is very understanding that you are using this to re-evaluate who is in your life. I did the same thing. -
suffering tremendously..
Ms.Cali replied to imsuga's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had an awful recovery. I'm 9 months out now so I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. About 13 weeks in and out of hospital and lots of pain meds - the worse of it all was detoxing from the dilated. 5 days of pure hell. So please use pain meds with reason - even when dr's are offering it so freely. Remember WLS patients have a risk of developing dependencies on drug, alcohol...etc. When it comes to gas pain - heating pad really helped. I didn't get better until I started moving around - try and stay on your feet as much as possible. And than drink drink drink.
