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Just putting it out there, so 'dirty' little secrets may see the light of day!
7 Bites_Jen replied to Madam Reverie's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Oh yeah! Alcohol!! LOL I drink hard cider, wine, beer ... I get tipsy a lot quicker though, and I learned the hard way that it's a lot easier to overindulge ... -
Yes, yes, YES. It is a daily battle. I am a year out and I still struggle with this. food is an addiction unlike any other - unlike drugs, alcohol, or cigarettes, you cannot separate yourself from food - you HAVE to have it to live. So we start the cycle. I think a LITTLE guilt is healthy - to an extent. But riddling yourself with guilt is not productive. For example, I am currently munching on White Castle sliders. I have eaten 1 1/2 and I am feeling insanely guilty telling myself I should have stopped at one. The guilt is not going to change the fact that I ate that other 1/2. It might stop me next time, if I listen and learn from it. But it doesn't change what has already been. A little fear is also healthy - I should be more afraid of what I eat than I actually am! It keeps you accountable and from eating what you shouldn't and eating too much of it.
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Just putting it out there, so 'dirty' little secrets may see the light of day!
mirabelle replied to Madam Reverie's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Last night I downed three Oreos from the mini bar in my hotel room. Hey, it was either that or m&ms! Or the copious amounts of liquor, wine and beer....at only 2.5 months out I was afraid of the alcohol. -
Maybe not so much, you could have given yourself a better chance for health. Let me elaborate. I am also military Tricare/ united health care now. I started trying to get approved originally for a gastric bypass in 2010 when I noticed that no matter what I did my weight would drastically fluctuate from 135-200 within a month. At the time I did not have as many health issues as I do now. I started the processes with Tricare for them to deny me, appeal, deny again and then switch health coverage and start all over. Long story short at the beginning of this year I was diagnosed with end stage liver disease, non-alcoholic cirrhosis stage 4. After all of the treatments, biopsy’s , and other mid-evil torture processes my transplant doctor tells me that if I would have had the bypass 2 years ago I wouldn’t be in the boat I’m in now. The gastric sleeve is my only option now due to my condition and I am currently waiting on a surgery date. Long story short, I started the processes with only having high blood pressure and due to the fast-food treatment of military medicine passing me back and forth between different PCP’s I now have hypothyroidism, diabetic, liver patient. They are still pressing the issue that I do not weight enough even though I have officially been passed over to a specialty care at KU Medical. I personally think you did the right move at being proactive at seeing to your health. If I had the capability I would have done the same thing. Try not to kick yourself in the shins for making a move for better health and not taking a NO for an answer. Personally, I salute you.
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Was supposed to fast today. All was well until lunch - had a small portion of cheese and pot pie (not a lot of cheese) - anyway, after lunch I just felt blurgh! Dizzy and lighted headed - like I was nearly drunk without the alcohol! I came home from work just feeling 'sad' - no reason to either, nothing has gone wrong... anyway, I haven't stuck to the 500 cals, will do it tomo instead. I don't normally feel like this, and I am not one for tea and sympathy, I suppose I'm just having an off day! Hope everyone else is a little more upbeat!
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Any other September 2013 bandsters?
NewMeDebbie replied to Irishflower79's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
OMG! that would be like taking an alcoholic into a liquor store!! Not sure I could do it just yet...Good for you for staying strong! -
Substance abuse issues and VSG
unbesleevable1 replied to Justinh125's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am a recovering addict, and my drug of choice is opiates. I have over 3 years clean and in recovery, and this was a concern of mine as well. I am more concerned with taking pain medication, since I haven't taken anything for over 3 years, and will have to while in the hospital (im assuming). I am not planning on taking any narcotics home on prescription. Once i'm discharged from the hospital, that is it for the pain meds. I have a support system of people also in recovery and I still go to meetings regularly. I also attend weekly bariatric support groups. I'm not sure what makes you think it's your business to tell your friend he is or is not ready to have wls. I would be pretty annoyed if one of my friends, who is not an addict or expert in addiction, tried to tell me I am not ready for the surgery. As long as your friend is running his decisions by someone he trusts, just try to be supportive. He may actually be in a better position to deal with the long term consequences of wls, since he knows he has addictive behaviors and can take steps to deal with them. I think a lot of people get blind sided by the aftermath of wls, and realizing their relationship with food was addictive. Many of these people turn to alcohol or other substances to cope with their feelings. I am not sure exactly what I'm trying to say here, but this post really annoyed me. -
I smoke it. In fact I killed a roach a few minutes ago. Do you HAVE to be DRUNK (or high) to have a good time? I can enjoy myself perfectly without zero alcohol, so I could never understand people who must drink to have fun... And, I know you said "ignore" it, but as far as "munchies" I allow myself a bite-size chocolate and I won't over do it. I do, however, eat it extra slowwwwwwly, so as to delight in it.
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October Sleevers! Announce Yourselves
Susan 2.0 replied to SkinnyMinnie2Be's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
So happy for you, SueJersey!!!! "You look MARVELOUS!!" When's your next cruise?!? I just got home from Hawaii :-) I'm 51 weeks out & have been stalled at 70-75 lbs lost since June. But I also added alcohol & sweet tea back into my diet about that same time. It's been a great ride & a fun summer but I'm hoping to get it kick-started again soon with a 2-week liquid (Optifast) diet. But even if I don't then I'm a happy camper right here at 5'6", ~175lbs, size M/L & 14/16 !!!!!! -
No one told me that having this surgery would make me younger! I have regressed to the age of TWO since I cannot control my emotions whatsoever! I am literally a walking snickers commercial today. I am sick of every poind lost opening up another pocket of angry within me that has to come out. I obviously used food to swallow my emotions and my feelings pf being used and abused because I am not taking ANYONE'S BS and I am loudly speaking my mind and voicing my emotions. I am emotional and angry and my relationship and my work are suffering. I am in counseling, but all I learned is I am co-dependent. I am a child of an alcoholic. But truthfully with how I feel I am seriously thinking the surgery is driving me to the nuthouse.... Is this normal? I am not suicidal. I am not violent. I am just fighting and screaming and stomping my feet (literally) and crying and feeling injustice against me. I have rages I cannot control. I hope it isn't like this forever...is it? Is something wrong with me?
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Day 4 and lots of Nausea
Montereygrl replied to pink303's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Headache for me was caused by too few calories post surgery. I've heard a lot of people say alcohol pads under your nose helps with nausea. For me, I usually grab a SF Popsicle and it helps me, -
Day 4 and lots of Nausea
Montereygrl replied to pink303's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Headache for me was caused by too few calories post surgery. I've heard a lot of people say alcohol pads under your nose helps with nausea. For me, I usually grab a SF Popsicle and it helps me, -
Any October surgeries out there...
Mid West replied to debbiedenise's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What was your pre-op diet? Mine was low fat, normal food, sticking to around 1000 cals a day. Didn't measure cals and may have had one or two more bowls of muesli than necessary but everything I've eaten has been low fat, zero sugar and no alcohol. I had one meal out on Friday night which didn't exactly meet the low fat requirements but still avoided chips (fries), alcohol and sugar. Thinking about doing a liquid diet (Complan/Soup etc) for the next 4 days leading up to the surgery, just to make up for any deviations on the pre-op and also to cleanse my system. -
Any October surgeries out there...
Mid West replied to debbiedenise's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What was your pre-op diet? Mine was low fat, normal food, sticking to around 1000 cals a day. Didn't measure cals and may have had one or two more bowls of muesli than necessary but everything I've eaten has been low fat, zero sugar and no alcohol. I had one meal out on Friday night which didn't exactly meet the low fat requirements but still avoided chips (fries), alcohol and sugar. Thinking about doing a liquid diet (Complan/Soup etc) for the next 4 days leading up to the surgery, just to make up for any deviations on the pre-op and also to cleanse my system. -
Your body goes immediately to burning the alcohol and not fat. So the whole time you have it in your system your body is thinking of nothing else.
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Your body goes immediately to burning the alcohol and not fat. So the whole time you have it in your system your body is thinking of nothing else.
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A question for veterans about coffee..
CowgirlJane replied to JessicaAnn's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
coffee addict... my only problem with it is I would drink it all day ...hot in the morning... iced in the afternoon..haha. Seriously, heard of addiction transference? I didn't become an alcoholic, but realized last summer that I had become a complete and total coffee junky. doesn't help that I live in the land of coffee stands every 100 feet... It sounds like a joke, but I realize that coffee not only made me "feel good" but also curbed my appetite and so at an unconscious level I started drinking it for those reasons. I have changed that, my appetite is in good control and i have in fact LOST WEIGHT since cutting back on the caffeine. interesting, huh... Anyway, I have cut way back, not because my tummy is bothered but because i was having OTHER ill effects. -
A question for veterans about coffee..
Rainae replied to JessicaAnn's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Per my NUT, the issue with caffeine is not only acid, but the absorption rate is different, just like with alcohol post surgery. While I am not sure of the effects of getting too much caffeine being a huge issue, just be cautious! -
You may be worrying for no reason. Before the surgery I stressed about what I would tell people (not including family) because I didnt want everyone to know. I got my sleeve on a Friday and went back to work on Monday. It has been seven weeks and I have lost 32 lbs. No one has any idea I did anything. I thought oh the weight is going to melt off of me and I will be so skinny people will have questions. In real life I still wear the same size clothes and no one that doesnt know I had the surgery knows that I have lost a pound. In the interim, I have started saying that I am on a diet, and not consuming alcohol (in public) so that in the event I do start to have the lbs melt off of me, it will make sense.
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If you do a search of this forum, either alcohol or wine, and you'll find a pretty long thread of people's experiences. Most said to wait about three months but to definitely be careful and try it at home first. Some got really hammered on one glass.
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Alcohol use is discouraged after RNY for 2 reasons. Due to the plumbing changes, your body reacts very differently. You are likely to feel the impact very quickly and much more strongly than usual, especially in your early months. Secondly, you would be consuming calories with no nutritional value. That is normally explained quite clearly in the pre-op materials and discussions.
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I was told 6 months, and that since there is so little stomach to absorb the alcohol it won't take very much for you to feel the effect.
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How long before alcohol ? Or simply one glass of wine ?
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Cheryl, I'm probably not the best person to respond, because I have never liked meat or fish. It is a chore to choke down 2 oz a day, but I am trying to do it. It is even more unappealing to me now than it was before. I still eat chicken breast and it has been one of my main sources of protein all my life....so I am really tired of it. Sometimes I have to avoid the chicken for a week or two just so I can stand it again. Unfortunately for me, I like the soft proteins, like eggs, cottage cheese, plain fat free greek yogurt sweetened with Equal. I like cheese too. For meat I like things like Chilli which is often soft. My very favorite protein is the protein drinks. How far out are you? Maybe your tastes will change again if you used to like meat. I wish I could start a new paragraph but the computer won't let me, so sorry that this is a series of run on paragraphs:) I think it is a good idea to try a different NUT. Yours sounds especially obnoxious. I agree that husbands don't change and all we can do is change our responses to their weird habits:) Sounds like you have a good plan. My husband was all for the surgery, but he complains now that I don't eat enough. He also likes a glass of wine in the evening sometimes. He doesn't overindulge, but he wants me to have a glass with him. I choose not to spend my calories on wine. I also have a friend who had WLS and changed her food addiction to alcohol addiction so I am even less interested in having a glass of wine. I know some people do, but I choose not to, and he complains, but oh well....he will just have to complain.
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Just putting it out there, so 'dirty' little secrets may see the light of day!
Indigo1991 replied to Madam Reverie's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Mmmm, alcohol...... now going to start thinking about what I could drink, not having had alcohol in months... What can I drink without carbonation? Vodka martini? Piña colada? Lol.
