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I decided in April 2016, went to a seminar, then had to complete at 6 month physician supervised weight loss program. I was approved within a week of completing it and had the procedure on 10/26/2016. No problems with approval as it is covered under my insurance, I completed the 6 months. Started with a BMI of 53 and had co-morbidities (diabetes and sleep apnea). Good Luck!

Thanks Yoda.I am happy with the weight loss.

I just wanted to ask if anyone had any complications from lifting weights after surgery? I am 7 weeks post op and have lost 40 pounds so far, but I know to keep losing I need to exercise more. I have been doing a few light weights...ab machines...leg press, etc....nothing too heavy along with aerobic activity. I did speak with a nurse at my doctor's office this morning and she stated that everything should be fine; however, I am self pay and certainly cannot afford any complications. I would appreciate any help! Thank you!

If you're truly eating 800 calories a day and then burning 1000 calories during exercise, you're doing your metabolism a HUGE disservice... Look, your body NEEDS food to survive. Your brain alone uses 25% of your energy consumption. Digestion and respiration use a good deal of energy as well. In order for your body to operate, you need a minimum calorie allowance of usually 1200 calories. MINIMUM. If you drop below that minimum, your body WILL panic. A panicking body slows the systems down so they require less fuel. You do this long enough and your body will start to think it doesn't need as many calories after all and your metabolism TANKS. This isn't good. It's starvation, and your body is fighting to survive. If your NUT approves of this sort of extremism, you need to find a new doctor. Try increasing the amount of food you eat and cut back on the exercise, slowly, over time. In a few weeks when you get to a sane eating and exercise pattern you should see the weight come off. Do it soon before you do any serious damage to your body. Your lap band should NOT be a tool to make you drop weight in 7 weeks for a stupid reunion. What you're doing is irresponsible and unhealthy.

Well, I've made up my mind about the lapband surgery. I'm very excited. My biggest fear is that I won't do well on it and/or have complications. I'm so tired of hurting. I'm so tired of just being fat and having no will power. I wish I knew what I weigh. I'm too afraid to find out actually. My goal is to just get healthy and feel better. I quit smoking and that was tough! I can surely do the same mind set and work on losing weight.

I'm filling out some forms for my Psyche evaluation that is scheduled for 05/30. I can't help but wonder if I'm writing 3/4 of the report the guy is going to send the insurance company! I had a brief conversation with this guy when I scheduled my appointment. It sounds like he is a non-value-added checkbox along my path of this journey. He has no specific training in obesity issues, doesn't even appear to be a full-time psychologist (only available nights and week-ends). I asked him what his qualifications were for performing the evaluation; his response was that his wife had been through the surgery. Doesn't seem like much of a qualification. My husband will be happy to know that he'll expand his career options once I have the surgery! Oh well...I'm already working with a psychologist on my own. The dr. didn't want her opinion; afraid that she won't fill out the report properly was the reason. She and I have tackled many of the issues surrounding my weight. :thumbup: One checkbox will be complete on 05/30 (Psyche Eval) Second checkbox will be complete on 06/09 (6th month of nutrition counseling). Final checkbox will be the letter of medical necessity - supposedly to be sent by the surgeon. There really is no question on that issue; my BMI is over 55 and I have two co-morbidities (high blood pressure & obesity induced asthma). The timeline I've been told is that to anticipate a surgery date between July 20 & 31. I think I'll be holding my breath until I come out of recovery. :glare:

welll it was bound to happen soner or latter. I seem to have hit the Palto i been 209 for now over 2 weeks I was 208.6 then gained and am back to 209. I am eating well expect fot my ice coffiee thing that i need to have with my skim milk and 4 spenda i think coffeee is a fuild or should be count tords it. I guess i going to have to suck it up and make the call asking for another fil. I am hungery at all time it like i can't get enough food. I can eat well over 2 cups and eat snacks though out the day. I am trying to make them heathy snacks. The big thing for me will be this comming weekend and Juily 4th. The twins brithday. We are having a party for them at a spray park / petting farm they are both so excited about it. I have order the cake and every knows i have a weekness and a foundness for cake once i get one bit before i know it i have eaten the whole cake this is why we can't have it in are house. We are having are anunal Juily 4th BBQ for familty. This dose not worry me as much as the cake thing again I have order a second cake this one going to be a real show stopper so i not sure i going to want to cut into it. along with cake come ice cream i have bought my self some ice cream that it low fat lactose free suger free it okay not the same. good new i have found i can fit into banna repblic i love there stuff never went in there now that i fit i can get stuff there. I also gone form a 44 DD to a 40 D that four inches off my back wow.

I would say dont stress and there are other reasons that women don't loose weight that i didnt know about until i had the conversation with my dietitian he is really wonderful i was also stuck at 208 forever but i talked with him and he told me if i wasnt sleeping good i wouldn't loose weight and sure enough i wasnt sleeping good so you might try that. Also i would get a fill if i was always hungry maybe you just need to sit down and chat with your DR about all this because lap band isnt easy but it doesn't have to be this hard. Please let me know if i can help any more. I have been through hell with my band lately but i still believe that it was the best choice for me.

I have a consultation scheduled with Dr. Manuel Castro on Wednesday. After my previous experiences with Bariatric Surgeons, I'm not sure exactly what to expect. My hubby keeps telling me not to get too excited or hopeful that Dr. Castro can help us. Yes, us. I want to eventually get my hubby approved for the VSG as well. He is only 20 pounds smaller than he was at his highest weight 5 years ago when he was banded. I went to my primary care doctor, Dr. King and he was upset with me over my blood pressure. Apparently it has become more and more difficult to control and I hope that if it comes downt to it he will write that down in a letter. I'm now on two seperate anti-hypertensive medications. Dr. King ordered labs to check my liver, kidneys and heart in order to see if there is a cause to my high blood pressure. Kidney disease runs in my family. So who knows? I'm trying not to think about anything else "bad" happening to my body. I already have depression, fibromyalgia, degenerative disc disease, some herniated discs, sciatica and apprently high blood pressure. I believe a few of those could be helped with me losing the remaining 80 pounds that I need to. I know that the Sleeve is simply a tool and I have to stay on course and be good. I did great when I intially got the band having lost 140lbs. That was until Pamela (aka the band) decided to go all bitchy on me. :thumbup: That's it until Wednesday....

I figured I would create this blog so as not to hog up space posting in various topic areas. I also wanted a place that I could just write and record my feelings about my WLS journey. Since being sleeved on 12/26, this has been one of the most difficult medical related situations that I have ever encountered. You read all the information, you follow posts on the site, your doctor is constantly talking to you - along with his entire team, you talk to others who have had the surgery, you go to all the required meetings scheduled by the nutritionist and medical practice; or as required by the insurance company and STILL, nothing really prepares you for what your journey will be like post surgery. Pre-surgery I stayed on my doctor's office and insurance company to approve this surgery. I wanted the weight off, I needed the weight off, I was miserable with the weight. I was also very disappointed because I had had a prior weight loss surgery e.g. lapband and it was dismal failure. At most I think I lost 30lbs. When I saw my DIL and how well the sleeve surgery "looked" on her, I knew I had made a mistake with the band, but at the time I thought "oh well" I'm stuck with what I have. Over time I began looking into the options regarding revision. My first physician who placed the band in wasn't budging in considering a revision - so I got another doctor. At first the new doc was a bit resistant, but after 6-7 months of no progress, he finally approved the procedure; and so did my insurance company. Of course I was ready to self-pay if they didn't. A loan, anything, I was desperate. Surgery was scheduled on 12/26 and off I went to my new me... Post-op things seemed to be progressing well during my initial hospital stay, overnight - except for my experience with the overnight nurse assigned to monitor me throughout the night. He just was not helpful and would not give me pain medication in timely manner. I made such a fuss and actually threatened to leave the hospital if someone didn't help me. Finally, some pain meds and off to sleep I went. Needless to say that I was so interested in getting out of there that the minute my doctor asked me the following morning if I was ready to leave the hospital, I said absolutely. I had gotten up early that morning and was actually feeling pretty good, probably all that fluid they were pumping in me via the IV. I was able to wash up on my own and get dressed, so I thought...ok this is good. I couldn't drink water at that point or anything else, but I was even ok with that. I wasn't feeling hunger at this point, I just wanted to go home. Home - this is where the journey really gets interesting... After about two days, I still couldn't tolerate liquids - especially anything cold, so I mainly subsisted on hot tea and popicles. Periodically I would try to drink one of the many varieties of protein drinks I had purchased in advance of surgery, but they were all horrible and I couldn't get them down anyway. I think for the first 2 weeks, I was literally starving myself to death. Finally it got to a point where I couldn't keep anything down. By the time I got to my 1st follow-up appointment with the doc, I felt weak and confused e.g. what the heck is going on confused. What happened, why am I feeling this way confused. I asked my doc and he said... the good news you have lost 17lbs isn't that great! Uh yeah, but I'm starving and puking anything I try to take in and I'm not taking anything in. I wanted to lose weight in the worst way, but I didn't want to starve myself to death. He said, it will get better - and if I was still vomiting after a week or so, call him - an endoscopy procedure may be in order. He sends in the Nutritionist who reviews my meal plan with me. What meal plan?!, but ok - I go over what I'm supposed to eat, what I'm not and some food options to consider. As I was leaving the office, one of the Physician's Assistants who had been helping me push to get the surgery approved, said quietly on the side - don't wait to call the office back if I was still vomiting, no need to suffer he said. Boy was I suffering. In fact the following day, I called the doctor's office and said I can't take it anymore, they have to do something. I could barely get out of bed. The following day I was scheduled for the endoscopic procedure. The doc who performed the procedure said that he saw some blockage from scar tissue, so he inserted a balloon that would help stretch the opening of the stomach so I could get something in. What a relief I thought... Following the procedure I was able to get fluid in, not much but at least broth, soup, more popicles, hot tea. In fact one day I actually ate some shrimp and started buying different foods that I could try e.g. mushy's. I guess that wasn't the best idea, the shrimp stayed down - but some of my other selections e.g. shellfish did not cooperate at all; even though I would chew this stuff until it was water. Finally, I got tired of trying to eat and just stuck with broth, creamy soup, popsicles and hot tea until even the thought of these foods turns my stomach. Don't want to forget all the pill popping e.g. vitamins, calcium, antacid, gas x, additional Vit D... Anyway the next round has been gas and diaherra (which is still the case). A couple of days, I couldn't make up my mind whether to go to the bathroom, vomit or both - sometimes it is both. Oh yes, i forgot this whole time I've been so weak, that I could not work, I live alone with minimal support or encouragement - so depression began to creep in; until it was so full blown that I asked my PCP to put me back on depression meds, that I had been off for the last year. So now, 4 weeks and 3 days into this journey, I'm sitting here wondering exactly how am I feeling. I have been able to add a couple of more foods to my list of what I can tolerate. Yesterday I was finally able to drink water and drank a whole bottle. I am also slowly beginning to tolerate drinking juice from the fridge; although slowly and very cautiously. My sleeve seems to be "teaching" me what it will accept and what it won't - it is very, very particular and any misstep on my part will be dealt with immediately and painfully. In fact, if I get ahead of myself, I'll be right back to clear liquids if not the same day, the following day. I still haven't developed a taste for protein drinks, but there is one that I can tolerate more than others. I'm sure my doc would say it has too much sugar in it, but it's either that one or none. After 2-3 weeks of practically starving, I'm just glad I'm able to tolerate anything close to protein. I definitely don't overdo anything - too scared and too tired of being sick and too weak to move beyond the bed, bathroom and kitchen (just to look around, cause eating is limited). So is it getting better? Well I have my good days and bad days, today seems to be going ok - yesterday too. Today I had a boiled egg. Wow - who would have ever thought that eating a boiled egg would be a major thing in someone's daily life. To be continued.

It's not uncommon to go in and out of the Green Zone as you lose weight, so don't let that upset you. I know it seems like you have a lot in you band but you actually still have considerable room for additional fills. When you're close to the Green Zone, even a fill as small as .2cc can make a world of difference. I would simply be sure you have very small fills going forward so you don't accidentally over-shoot it right into the Red Zone. This will probably sound weird, but next time you think you're hungry, really stop and listen to your body. Just because your stomach is rumbling doesn't necessarily mean you're hungry. Banded tummies tend to make more noise overall and sometimes people mistaken a loud tummy for physical hunger. Just a thought. Best wishes to you.

Highest weigh : 241 Current weight : 189

I've had the same concerns. I'm past 6 months and have lost 63lbs and am starting to wonder if I continue to lose weight, do I even need the surgery! I get my sleep study results today and after this, I will have no more requirements. These concerns are real!!! Sent from my SM-N910V using the BariatricPal App

I have been on here since October last year. After my last post my grandmother died in front of me, then two weeks later her brother died, my favorite uncle. I didn't do well with any of those deaths. I didn't get back into over eating because the band doesn't allow you to do that but I stopped working out and not paying attention to what I was eating. Surprisingly I still have lost some weight. I'm down a total of 34 pounds and I know I could be farther along, I haven't had a fill since November because they keep canceling my appointment, that's getting rather frustrating. I still feel good about my decision and I have started getting back to where I was before I had those tragedies. People say it looks like I've lost more than the 34 pounds but I haven't. I had surgery in August of last year but I'm getting back on the wagon. I have re-enrolled in my aerobics class and have picked back up on walking each day.

I've heard it all...been called morbidly obese, big as a house, five by five, fat as a whale, two ton Tessie, etc. I am now in the normal weight range based on BMI and any other determinating criteria and thankful and grateful as can be. My life is so much better in every way imaginable.

I'm not sure why. The last time I did research, it said that the surgery may help with your depression or anxiety. It said something like "the more weight you lose, the more happier and confident you'll become." Which was true about me. I still get anxiety a little bit if I feel like I've eaten too much or have eaten the wrong thing. It varies from person to person. What may happen to one person may not happen to the other. ---------------------------- HW- 273 Pre-op Wt- 230 SW- 226 CW- 186 GW- 130 Ht- 5'2.5" DOS- April 26th, 2017 "Only those who try will become." ~FFX

Lots of ramblings... It has been so long and I actually forgot that today was my surgiversary. This morning I received an email from another site congratulating me on being 3 years out so I thought I'd come here and check things out. Life really has changed over the past years, but that was inevitable with or without the sleeve The ugly... I am up 20 pounds from my goal weight and 30 pounds from my happy weight. About 25 of those pounds have been put on since the birth of my beautiful daughter who is now almost 16 months. I am not happy about this, but wow, being a mom really cut into my exercise and sleep time;-) I have now begun a consistent exercise routine again (after an inconsistent year), am trying to get the food choices under control (it's hard to make healthy choices on 5 hours of sleep) and hope by my birthday in October to be down at least 10 pounds. Ugly (pt. 2)-my body!!!!! I'm sitting at a size 10 and get so many compliments about how much better (healthier) I look compared to my size 4 body, and I'd have to agree to an extent, but boy do I miss my muscle-toned body:-( The bad... A big reason for having the vsg was to help our chances of getting pregnant. Unfortunately after a year out and steady for months below my goal weight, I went back to my RE and attempted to have some tests run. Long story short, it turned out that my only chance at pregnancy was to have my tubes removed, due to severe scarring, and go through IVF. I was VERY depressed for about a week. I'd figured out how we could afford (mentally and financially) IUI, but IVF??? And then I realized I could either be sad and upset or I could make a new plan, either way life was going to move forward. It's reflecting on times like this that I'm reminded how little is truly in our control, but fortunately God is at the helm and, at least in my experiences, has a more awesome plan for my life than even I could imagine. The good, great, fantastic... About a week after getting the devastating news and posting to this wonderful board about it, I read a reply from someone who opened my eyes. She probably doesn't even realize it, but after reading through all my posts she made a comment that changed my life. She said "I know that you would like to have a biological child but there are sooooo many many many children that need a loving home..." At first I was really offended, but then I reread all of my posts and realized that of course she and everyone else would assume that getting pregnant was very important to me, I mean look back at everything I'd posted about the drastic steps I was taking, BUT it wasn't about being pregnant to me, it was about being a mom and my husband being a dad. So... At that point, we half-heartedly discussed adoption, but that post really made me examine what we wanted. Shortly after that I we began the home study process and before our report was written we were matched with a wonderful young lady due in April. And the rest is history...although life wouldn't be life without a few issues, but it all worked out. Lastly... A big part of the struggle for me with food, exercise, and sleep this past year or so was the fact that I still was working outside my state about 40 miles each way. If you know anything about the Washington DC area, you know a commute like that can be horrendous AND it usually was. Well, in October 2011, I made the decision I wouldn't be coming back to this current job another school year and let my principal know. It was kind of scary with this economy and teaching jobs near my home very competitive, but I had to make a decision that was good for my health and family. In December I happened on a job fair and was offered a contract. In March I was offered a job in my own district for the remainder of the school year, but my current principal would not budge on the 30 days notice thing and they needed the position filled immediately, so I had to turn it down. That was a hard pill to swallow, but in the end, like most things, it worked out for the best. I ended up with a lot of possibilities and took one at an independent school near my house that begins at age three and goes through high school, which will be great as my baby grows up. I'm now laying in bed with a little girl curled up at my side because she thought 4 AM would be a good wake up time this morning and I was afraid she'd hurt herself jumping in her crib if I didn't get her out. So there's the good, bad, and ugly. Getting sleeved three years ago was an excellent decision for me and I know it's helped me get to where I am now. It sort of reminds me of the Robert Frost poem...and I took the road less traveled down and that has made all the difference. Who knows where the other fork (non-sleeve) would have led me, maybe somewhere just as great, but I'm happy to be where I am today!

ok so yesterday was my consultation with Dr, Geiss he is so sweet and nice i really liked him , i picked him cause he has done over 3000 surgery's for the lapband when i got there i first met with the nurse practiciner who went over what i could consume and cannot consume and how the lapband works , then she went over and got me weighed and i had a heavy sweater jacket on with sneakers so it read 253 pounds ! yikes ! so then dr geiss greeted me and i went into his office with my husband he asked me how long i been dieting and why do i want to have the lapband surgery , i told him how i am depressed and tired of being fat . He told me how great my insurance is and said he never has a problem with it , he also said they usually approve everyone he thinks is a good candidate and he said i am a great candidate and i will do great. also a huge plus is my insurance doesnt require a 6month diet with your doctor prior to surgery so i was happy about that , he says they are also so fast to approve they will approve within a week so i could get this surgery by the end of next month whooohoo. so then i asked dr geiss about the realize band and he told me he doesnt like that band that the lapband is more reliable and better so i took his word he then gave me all the tests i need to complete which is the following blood work to see a psycologist a nutritionist which will be out of pocket 250 dollars but my insurance covers everything eles =) cardiologist / ekg, echo, stress test pulmonary consult for pulmonary function test if he thinks i need sleep apnea test then i will go for it upper GI test my weight history documented and then 2 weeks prior to surgery i need to take a education class then i get a surgery date if im approved which he has no doubt so before i went i said to myself id this something i really want ? will this help me ? i asked my self a series of questions and came to the conclusion that i do need this surgery so i can be healthy and be me again! if i dont i will just continue to do my bad habits and gain weight and be depressed forever i want nothing more then to be healthy happy and skinny

Today has been pretty uneventful. I slept all day. Literally. I got up every 4 hours to walk a little and drink a little and do some deep breathing. Then...back to bed. I got in 32oz of fluids (and I'm sure I can get in another 10 or 15 oz). As far as I'm concerned, this is pretty amazing. I thought very seriously about going to my kids' soccer games this morning -- that's how ok I feel. I ended up staying home just because it is Africa hot here and I knew I could sleep. My tummy is still swollen - I look fatter than I was when I went in for surgery. That said, some of the fluid has started to drain off. I was 230 on DOS. I came home at 237. Today, I'm back to 230. So that is very encouraging. (I'm not concerned about the weight loss right now - but it is nice to have the swelling go down). I took a shower today - I highly recommend it. It made me feel more human. After the shower, I changed my dressings. I wasn't prepared for these big honkin' staples. They are sore and itchy. Burping remains an issue. But it is way easier to drink today as compared with yesterday. Tomorrow is my 8 yr old son's birthday. My BFF is hosting a party for him so all I have to do is show up with the little birthday boy. I'm confident I can do it. While napping today, I had a dream that I freaked out and went inside and ate all the icing off the red velvet cake. Total reminder of my "old" self. Eating in secrecy, feeling guilty, etc. Soooooo glad I don't have to do that anymore. Finally, I know it is too early to say, but I can't imagine that I won't be ready to go back to work at the end of week 1. If I absolutely had to, I think I could go back Monday (I have a desk job). Don't get me wrong....it wouldn't be easy, but it could be done. I say that just because I know there are lots of people out there wondering about work. My advice: take off as much time as you can but don't let a lack of time off prevent you from having this surgery. Okay...I'm about ready for bed again...hahaha! Tomorrow - FULL LIQUIDS HERE I COME!!! (Not a moment too soon!) Love to all, Angela

No No no don't do that to yourself. Don't compare your journey to someone else's Journey is my model after I tortured myself the first 6 months. Out body structures are all different. I was losing at a slower Pace than everybody else so I would sabotage myself. However with great support and encouragement of others noticing the weight loss in me, I was able to gain Focus and I realized I am not going to lose at the same pace as everybody else and sure enough I didn't. I was sleeved on May 2015 I have a total weight loss of 125 pounds I have been released by my surgeon but I have a personal goal to get to. I discuss my weight loss with whom I was comparing myself to, their weight loss is way under hundred pounds and some haven't been released by surgeon. Moral of the story... Keep eye on your own paper..lol focus on you this is for you. You will know what works best for you. Follow the doctors and guidelines. Don't feel discouraged. Slow and steady is best

Ok, I really need some advise here... My surgeon has never mentioned Protein bars and drinks... he did say to eat protein first and ensure that my diet is rich in protein, which is mostly is (by that I mean over the last two weeks, when I have been really poorly I have waivered a little but otherwise it is protein first all the way). Now, although my weight loss is ok, it seems to be a lot slower that others and there are regular periods of my weight staying the same... so... my question is; do I invest in some Protein Drinks and include them in my daily calorie intake, or should I just keep plodding along? Oh by the way, I am in the UK so if anyone can recommend a Protein Drink that I can buy here... if you think it would be worth me trying them out??? Cheers Coops x

Dearest All Who's Reading, I hope you are all doing great with your weight losses and support!! I am still hitting the job trail, still with no luck, but I'm praying and hope you guys out there are praying for me too. This is a very small town that I live in and there aren't many options besides fast food, which I am trying to avoid at all costs, but if it's all there is I will work there. I just don't think I'm strong enough yet to withstand that temptation. Anyhoo, I'm getting sick :boink: , all the throat soreness, hoarse, coughing, stuffy nose at times thing. That's all it is luckily. I took my 2 year old to get his swine flu shot the other day. We had to wait in line for like 2 hours to get it, but he did. I haven't yet and still haven't decided if I want to. I'm in the age range to where I'm succeptable to contracting the virus, but it seems like everytime I get a flu shot I get the flu, and if I dont' get it, I dont' get the flu. But there's still time for me to get one if I change my mind and I am thinking about it guys, don't worry. :wink: I have a really awesome support buddy on here and I am so happy I met her. Her name is Sheila and we had the same surgeon, Dr. Swain of Murray, KY. We have been e-mailing each other almost every day or every other day seems like, and she is just the sweetest person. She supports me and answers alot of my questions and everything. I am very thankful for her online friendship, and soon to be in person friendship. We realized that our next appointment is scheduled for the exact same day, her's at one pm and mine at two fifteen. How cool is that? So she's gonna wait around a minute and I'm going to come early so we can meet each other. I'm completely psyched about it. Well, overall I'm doing good. The weight loss has slowed down a bit. Mostly I think because I've been drinking alot of orange juice lately. I can't get enough of the stuff for some reason!! But it's chock full of sugar and I need to stop I know. I am trying, I promise!! :smile2: I'm gonna go, gotta get up in the morning and go job hunting again, go figure. Hope everyone is well and I'm praying for you!! Sending Love.... Nicole Marie

No not at all. You have lost weight and that's what matters. Keep your head up it will start again and you will be just fine! I'm only a month and a half out Sent from my HTC Desire 626s using the BariatricPal App

Don't compare yourself to others. How physically demanding our jobs are, our personal lives, what we eat and more all have an impact. Be your own person and Celebrate your accomplishments by knowing you give it 100% each day. Congratulations on your weight loss. Had lapband surgery 10/12/16

Hello all. I'm new to this forum, but not new to surgery. My husband had RNY in 2001. I had Lap Band surgery in 2006. I lost 25 pounds, then promptly gained it back. I'm afraid that I'm getting Peripheral Artery Disease, so I've got to shape up. I came here because before surgery, my surgeon's nutritionist told me I could only fiber from certain sources (I think only soluble fiber). When I asked "What about insoluble fiber?" she said that I could get that in my diet. I thought 'What? If we can barely get enough protein in our daily food intake, how are we also supposed to get fiber - since few foods have both?' I'll look for a thread about this. Thanks.