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June 2022 surgery buddies
Mariann812 replied to Jessica1024's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I agree. We are like Santa’s bag of toys. We all get thrown in the weight loss surgery bag, and when they ‘shake us out,’ we’ve all had fairly different protocols and yet at the same time, basically the same protocols. best of luck to you! I think what I was MOST thankful for with my practice’s protocol was that clear liquids post op were only one day. I despised the clear liquid protein drinks. 🤢 -
So how much can you really eat??? 1 hear from now
RickM replied to Supafly82's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
This doc gives a pretty good layout of the progression that you should expect: I'm not so sure about his books and green smoothies, but his progression is consistent with my experience after 10+ years, though my wife is still somewhat more restricted in volume, so there is a YMMV thing going on there. I can eat about half of what I could before surgery. This is good and bad, in that it is plenty to be able to get the bulk of our nutrition from food (at least with a VSG), but it is also plenty to get into trouble with if you don't learn to eat right - that "gain it all back" threat is a real one if you don't pay attention. Volume can also be highly dependent upon what you are eating, as there are slider foods out there that are virtually unlimited, mainly highly processed junk foods (think chips, pretzels, etc.) One of my takeaways from Dr. Weiner's piece above is if you feel the need to increase your volume over time, try to do it with bulky, low calorie veg as a way of dealing with this. I've been having a salad for lunch most days since early post op, using a couple ounces of leftover meat, bit of cheese and, at the time, maybe 3 oz of salad veg - chopped spinach, pepper, tomato, avo, scallion, etc. My lunches are still just a couple ounces of meat (thats all I need along with all of the other protein in the day) but the veg content is a lot higher now, maybe 7-8 oz. Still pretty moderate in calories, but very high nutritionally. I avoid buffets as they don't provide good value anymore, but can handle them when presented with one. I have never vomited (at least from over eating.) -
Stand still for 3-4 months now
ShoppGirl replied to ctsaunde2's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
How tall are you? 173 you could be nearing the end of your loss depending on your height and weight loss slows down quite a bit near the end. I am 5’8” and mine totally stopped at 169. I am on meds that make you gain weight though and was warned I may not lose as much as people who aren’t on these meds. I’m sure that you will lose more if you cut back on the snacking but those last 20 or so pounds will go much slower than the first few. You may also try adding more exercise. -
Pretty much like others said, if you have a calorie deficit you WILL loose weight. You may have stalls through the process but they will end and you will continue to loose weight. The larger you start the faster you loose because your calorie deficit is greater. As you get closer to a "normal size" your weight loss will slow because your calorie deficit is smaller. My dietician actually calculated my calorie deficit at my second visit when I was back onto solid foods and it was 18,590 calories a week! It is crazy how much I was eating to maintain the weight I was at! Do not panic, just follow your plan and it works. We are all proof it works!
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Stand still for 3-4 months now
SleeverSk replied to ctsaunde2's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I am the same I feel like my weight loss has stopped my surgery was July 28 2021 -
I will be at 8 years in November. I never made it to goal but that was ok. Had over a 100lb loss. It started to creep slowly back on- about 10 pounds a year or so. I started to watch more last year and am back to the lowest post-surgical weight so I am very happy with that. I may try for another 25 pounds or so. I haven't decided yet :).
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What protein shakes for Reset to take off regain.
samuelsmom replied to KC35's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
At Costco they have Orgain Clean protein shakes which are lovely. There is both a animal and plant-based version. As far as length of time to do a reset, there are multiple schools of thought out there, however, I would recommend doing what seems right to you. I would start off with a limited diets of protein shakes and green non-starchy vegetables. As you stabilize slowly add in fruit and regular meals. If it continues to be an issue going to a medical weight loss clinic might help too. Good Luck! -
Getting ready to have this surgery
Mariann812 replied to Laurie Rohrer's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
This is so me! I had spent most of my life not the least bit interested in food. 10 years ago when the weight started creeping up, I said the hell with it and started eating everything in sight. Since surgery, almost a month ago, I have no appetite and I feel like my old self again. I had completely messed up my metabolism with the yo-yo dieting and exercise. This surgery has been a blessing. -
Hi Everyi e me again with another stall question. So for the past 3-4 months I have been at a stall. I keep gaining and losing the same 1-2 pounds. I have 20 more pounds to go to reach the doctor’s weight loss goal. I will be one year August 16. I also changed my exercise routine. My eating changed also as I am eating more foods as opposed to drinking my protein. Is this normal?
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So how much can you really eat??? 1 hear from now
The Greater Fool replied to Supafly82's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
50% of post-op regain their weight. They're not doing it by eating too little. Good luck, Tek -
Trying to get out of my head....
Orinskye replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I peeked at your surgery date on your profile and it said you had your surgery in May of 2022. Every plan is different and if you are comfortable with your nutritionist ? Follow their advice. I am the opposite of you (my hunger hormone never came back- I am a year and a half from surgery). I do the same thing with “I don’t want to gain weight back” so I monitor my weight by stepping on the scale once a week. I found that if I did it multiple times a week I would start to obsess so I only do it once a week. calorie tracking is another good tool. My nutritionist is constantly on my back to track my calories (I am kind of terrible at it….. 😅 it’s okay when I have my set schedule during the school year but during summer my schedule is less defined and my meals end up sparse or nonexistent just because I’m not hungry) -
Dealing with the Changes... Like Loose Skin
Orinskye replied to SuziDavis's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Lol- I live in southern ca. while it isn’t humid… it is definitely hot and the skin folds do get sweaty. I was thinking I was fine…. Until summer hit. Now I am looking into skin removal. 😅 I am a little worried they won’t do it though. I would like a tummy tuck, arm lift and breast lift because those are the areas where I get rashes/pain, but I am at 155 pounds now and I am worried they will look at my weight ….. guesstimate the weight of loose skin to be removed….. then refuse to do it because it could push me into the underweight category bmi for my height 😬. I’m trying to get in asap before we loose insurance again. 😑 fingers crossed at least some will be covered since I have a history of skin issues -
Trying to get out of my head....
loli_lotus replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm pre-op but being scared of food and restricting is part of my disordered eating and need to be in control. For me, it definitely stems from childhood bad habits and childhood traumas. I've made such amazing progress working with my therapist about it, and she doesn't even specialize in eating disorders or bariatric therapy. It was even helpful describing a trigger for it to my pcp, who validated me and made me feel like I wasn't crazy and alone. Like I said, I'm pre-op, and so my strategies may not help someone post-op, but giving myself a distraction and giving myself grace are the biggest helpers. Logging my food was known to make me anxious and things worse, so my therapist suggested that I only track food sometimes, mainly when I feel like I'm gaining, and to just try to trust myself the rest of the time. Obviously you (and me in the future!), have to track certain things but don't let it destroy your mental health. Also, upping the work outs is going to cause some water retention and you'll need to eat more to fuel yourself, unfortunately a vicious cycle that a personal trainer had to explain to me once when I was panicking about weight loss. It also helped that they had a body composition machine and I could see that though my weight wasn't budging, my fat % was lowering and my muscles mass was growing. Definitely look into a place that has one of those, or even a place that does dexa scans! You're doing so great!!!! -
Trying to get out of my head....
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm looking into therapists. Not sure if it's a food issue or a trauma issue since I had a horrific childhood. My surgeon's office said not to worry about calories, also. They said to do 60-80g of protein, less than 50 carbs per day, and less than 50 fats per day. I'm more obsessive with the labels now than I was when I was on keto. It's also frustrating because in the 9 months I was on keto, I lost 100 pounds with only 1 short stall about 3 months in. It was so much easier to lose the weight back then than it is now. I'm fighting tooth and nail for every pound and hitting stall after stall. I worked out then and I work out now. But since it's such a struggle now, I'm finding I get panicky and start REALLY restricting what I eat. I've upped my work outs in both length and intensity, I religiously watch the labels and count every carb and fat in everything that goes in my mouth, and I not only don't eat junk but I don't think I even eat enough PERIOD. Yet here I am, day 4 of the same weight again. No matter what I do, I lose 5-7 pounds, then sit at a weight for a week, then lose 3 or 4, then sit another week, then lose 2 or 3 and the sit again. I have no issue with doing the work, but somehow I thought it would come a bit easier with only 20% of my stomach. It's harder to lose weight now than it was before the surgery!!!! Just freaks me out and my mind goes to not so good places. -
So how much can you really eat??? 1 hear from now
catwoman7 replied to Supafly82's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
that's going to vary a lot for people depending on several factors (how active you are, your metabolic rate, how much weight you're trying to maintain (you'll have to eat quite a bit less to maintain 120 lbs than you will 160 lbs)), etc. but in any event, no - you won't be eating 4 oz for life. NO ONE would be able to tell I've had surgery at this point - and it's been a few years since that might have been obvious. If they notice at all, they'd assume I'm a light or careful eater, like many of my women friends who have never been obese. I eat around 1700 calories to maintain - I can go higher if I'm exercising a lot (but again, calories will vary depending on those factors I mentioned. Some women here on BP can maintain on 2000 calories - others can only eat 1200). When I go out to eat, I'll usually order an appetizer. Or I'll order an entree and take half of it home - pretty much the same as a lot of my female friends. an example I often use is pizza. Before surgery, my husband and I would order a large pizza, and we'd each eat half of it. Now I can only eat 1-2 pieces before my stomach tells me it's time to stop. anyway, hope that gives you an idea.. -
no, you won't - not with that large calorie deficit. As others have said, you'll hit stalls along the way and your weight may fluctuate occasionally by a pound or two, but if you stick to your clinic's plan, your trend will be down. I didn't start regaining until I hit my lowest weight (in the 130s), but it's VERY common to gain 10-20 lbs after hitting your lowest weight (the rebound gain is usually in year 2 or 3). But while you're in the losing phase, as long as you're sticking to your plan, no. You'll continue to lose.
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13 days post-op. Had my second work out - dance aerobics. Felt great, can feel the different in my weight and lack of back pain. But after about 4 songs, I crash. The energy/stamina is not there yet. I don't know if it's lack of food, being out of shape or a combination, but can't wait be able to dance for hours again. But right now, I'm extremely happy to be dancing without pain.
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Meal ideas for all stages after surgery?
ShoppGirl replied to Erin18's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Pre surgery I drank a 12 pack of Coke Zero a day. Now, 16 months out I have not had a single one. My team said I am medically cleared to have it but it is associated with weight gain. They still don’t know exactly why the zero calorie beverage causes it but study after study shows the association and that’s enough to have kept me off of it. I like the crystal light. I use two packets to mix it by the gallon at home and have a ziplock bag full of them at all times in my purse. I like that I can switch up the flavors. A newer option is cirkul. Its a drink bottle that they sell flavored cartridges for. My aunt swears the flavors are even better than crystal light. They have their own website or you can get the starter pack at bed bath and beyond. She likes that you can adjust the intensity of the flavor because she likes them with more water. I suppose you can play around with the amount of water you add to crystal light and achieve the same thing though. I also like to mix two flavors together when I mix a gallon to create new flavors. -
I have had a rough ride with nausea and vomiting from day 1. My food and calorie intake was really poor. At about 4 months out my calories were about 350 to 500 a day. I just could not meet my protein target. I just stopped loosing weight. It took me another 6 weeks of really hard work, sourcing different foods and trying to up my intake of protein. When I got to around 800 calories a day, my weight began to drop again. I felt so much better and stronger. I have just had a hotel holiday abroad and I have really struggled with the food. My Cal count went back down to 500. I didn't loose any weight once again. Despite all the walking, swimming and dancing I have done.
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You will likely soon hit the "three week stall" (do a search for it here) where your loss will slow or stop and possibly even increase a bit. This is entirely normal and totally unrelated to what food phase you are in (people who are still on liquids as well as those who have been on soft foods since the start go through it.) It has to do with the matter that initially you are losing a big chunk of water weight associated with your glycogen stores (basically stored carbohydrate) being depleted due to your low calorie intake. Once that is depleted, your body shifts gears to burn your stored fat, which burns more slowly, so the weight loss slows a bit, too. Entirely normal. In our program they specifically tell us that their patients tend to do better as they move into real food - not strictly from a loss rate perspective, but for the sake of feeling better and more energetic, which leads to being more active and helping to maintain a more sustainable loss over the long haul. I was starting to nibble at the gym again after a couple of weeks, not for the sake of boosting loss rate (it didn't need it...) but for maintaining the habit (and not allowing my wife to use me as an excuse for not going!) I was certainly not burning any more calories there than at home, but more just starting to get a bit more variety in activities.
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i just realized this is an older post but for anyone else considering surgery I will reply. I was able to lost a significant amount of weight at your age so in part they are correct. Only problem is I put it back on like ten pounds a year on average until I needed this surgery. I did other yo-yo diets in between so it wasn’t a straight line but it averaged about ten a year. My body just wasn’t happy at a lower weight pre surgery and even trying really hard to keep it off I gained. The surgery adjusts your “set point” which makes a new happy weight for your body. A diet doesn’t do that so you are constantly fighting your body.
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You are so smart! No one recommended WLS to me till later in life. I suffered through years of dieting, and losing/gaining weight, till I finally gave up and came to peace with the idea that I would always be obese. It was a few years later when a doctor suggested I look into it. I had no idea it was for people like me, with BMI of 40. Kudos to you for getting more years out of your procedure, and being healthy longer!
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Im 2 weeks out from surgery and things are going good for now, but I know that eventually Im going to have to start introducing and incorporating real food back into my diet and my calorie intake is going to get higher, I'm just terrified that once I do that even of its 4-500 calories my weight is going skyrocket! Has any one experienced weight gain durring their transitional phases? How did it work out? Did you have to start hitting the gym daily to continue loosing? Can you please share your stories. Thank u
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Can obesity be a culprit of depression?
ShoppGirl replied to Erin18's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I have bipolar disorder and WLS hasn’t really decreased the frequency or changed my severe depressive episodes but losing weight has certainly made me happier on regular days. I get out more and am able to enjoy things more outside of those episodes because I feel better about Myself (more comfortable in my own skin). As a result I feel even better at the end of the day having accomplished things. I agree that exercise helps with depression and if you are really depressed even getting outside and just sitting there helps some. They actually make lamps to simulate the sun for treatment of depression and SAD. Yoga Is a great idea. -
Pre-op diet query
RickM replied to IWant ToDelete MyProfile's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I wouldn't worry much about it. With only a seven day diet like you describe, it doesn't seem that your program is all that concerned with the "liver shrinking" aspect of it as some programs are, that do longer and more intense diets (some surgeons are seriously intimidated by that issue while others don't care in the least.)It sounds like they are mostly working to transition you to their early post op diet. While they probably don't want fruit in there owing to sugar content, raspberries are on the benign end of the scale there (which is why you may see them on a "keto approved" list somewhere. Which is another lesson here - just because something may be "keto" doesn't mean that it is right or good for your needs. Keto is not necessarily healthy or weight loss oriented (but it can be, if done right - as with many popular diets.) There is plenty of junk food out there that is "keto approved". Most here who want to do keto do something called bariatric keto, which is basically old school Atkins because the macro ratios typically seen in most keto references don't make sense with the small amount that we are eating during our loss phase (generally too low in protein.) Not to mention the dubious nature of being in ketosis - K specifically avoided that owing to its side effects and was still working to slow my weight loss after six months, so it really isn't necessary for successful weight loss, and generally a bad habit to get into for long term health and weight maintenance.
