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Love PdxMan's reply. I am also on my third holiday season post op. In addition to doing almost the same as PDXMan (I do drink alcohol but only two max), I also: Eat low calorie versions of my fav treats, such as adding nutmeg and Splenda to warm milk instead of drinking eggnog, coffee with a splash of milk and sugar free pumpkin syrup instead of Starbucks holiday coffees, eggnog frozen yogurt instead of ice cream, sugar free hot apple cider, and spinach dip made with Greek yogurt with veggie dippers. When indulging in full calorie treats, I eat them out instead of having them at home. I weigh every day to stay in goal range. I consider staying at goal and healthy my christmas present to myself, not a punishment. I enjoy non food holiday fun, including walking the neighborhood to see the lights, making crafts with the kids, burning holiday scented candles, and donating time to charities. Lynda
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I did not drink for a few months after my first weight loss surgery, and when I did, the amount it took to get light headed was a very small amount. I had revision surgery on 10/25/13 and my doctor does not recommend you drink alcohol until six months out. I know when I have my next drink it will not take much to feel it especially with the sleeve since you have so little stomach area to absorb the alcohol. When you do partake, do it in moderation. It sounds like you have a good plan in place to not over do it.
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The intention of the liquid diet is to shrink the liver. I would not advise consuming alcohol as the liver will enlarge making it difficult for the surgeon to see where he needs to place the band.
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So before I ask this question, let me just say "Yes, I am aware of the empty calories and this should not be a habit." Is there any other reason besides the calories as to why you should not drink alcohol? I am young, I want to be able to go out and enjoy a drink or two with my friends occasionally. With that being said I usually only go out about 5 times a year. Thoughts??
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How long did u wait before drinking alcohol after surgery ?
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How did you handle the wine? I am 9 weeks out and haven't had any alcohol yet. I was originally going to wait six months, but I think that is excessive. I was thinking abou having a glass of wine on Xmas or New Years.
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I Became A Drunk After My Gastric Sleeve Surgery
Jen35 replied to YearningToBeThin's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm so glad you posted this! There are so many strong people on this site posting about their struggles with addiction. I know it's hard to share such personal information, but it really does help others to know they are not alone and that addictions can be managed. I am a little over 6 months out and I can see some tendencies toward other addictions. I'm certain I am a food addict and I've been in counselling for a year now. Just the reaction I had after my sleeve surgery when I couldn't eat my feelings anymore - it was the WORST feeling I've ever had. I used to eat until I was numb and was "high" on food (I compare it to getting drunk). I can't do that anymore so my brain automatically wants to look for a replacement. I'm really keeping an eye on my drinking, shopping, etc. The counselling has helped me be aware of my issues and, if I'm aware of them, I feel like I'm gaining some headway to healing. It is also helping me to feel my feelings instead of suppress them with whatever (food, alcohol, etc.). It's a really difficult process, especially when you suffer with anxiety and depression. My brain really fights feeling my emotions! I've used these coping skills my entire life and now I'm trying to change - very hard thing to do. So I guess my point is that none of us are immune to the possibility of other addictions. But awareness is the key. If you are aware of the problem (or potential problems) you can get the help you need. Hang in there - you're not alone - and YOU CAN DO THIS:) -
Need Some Support-Gained Lbs And Partner Not Attracted To Me Anymore
VSGAnn2014 replied to secondchancesally's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
My dear. You are hooked up with one controlling b***h. She already feels free to criticize your weight AND your style of dress. She demonstrably also has a problem moderating her food and alcohol choices. You on the other hand are actively engaged in becoming healthier. You're committed to a lapband lifestyle. And you just have to trust me on this next bit: When you're skinny as a rail and are wearing Chanel, she's going to criticize you for anything that occurs to her -- your hair style, your choice of literature, your tattoos, your career decisions, and your mother's cornbread dressing recipe. Why would you want to have someone like that in your life? Wouldn't you want a partner? Someone who loves and supports YOU for the YOU that YOU are and will become? There are lots of good people out there. You don't have to accept the first person who noticed you in a long time. Your choices are about to become more plentiful. Best wishes to YOU. Ann -
Need Some Support-Gained Lbs And Partner Not Attracted To Me Anymore
secondchancesally replied to secondchancesally's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
OK so I went on vacation. It was quite awkward and I felt very self conscious, but frankly, the whole time I was there I was noticing my partners eating habits which are certainly not beyond reproach. She had dessert after every lunch and dinner and had between 4-6 alcoholic drinks a day. As much as I felt tempted to point this out, I didn't. I just minded my own business and ate how I wanted to eat, which was healthy. salads with fish for Protein mostly. I was pleased that although I dont yet really have perfect restriction I was able to eat in moderation and I was so glad to not be getting stuck on vacation. Clearly the part about not being attracted was not an issue because there was a lot of stuff that only should be discussed in the powder room area, but lets just say that it was not wishy washy. So what do I do with this information is the big question? Because I feel really hurt by what happened. I do NOT want to have the kind of relationship where we nag at each other and chip away each others confidence over too much drinking or unhealthy eating. Frankly that just results in my sneaking off to have a snack and feeling ashamed. Which I did. And which I am not proud of. I mean, she was having Desserts twice a day, so if I was craving something sweet why couldnt I have just indulged in moderation alongside instead of sneaking. It was just a granola bar for God's sake, not like I wolfed down a banana split! Ive never been ashamed of my weight or my eating and I dont intend to start now that I/m down 30+ lbs. So we need to continue to discuss this and I just hope I can be firm and resolute. I am not a child and I dont want to be motivated by fear or by someone else's disapproval. -
When Life Gets In The Way Of The Sleeve
laners777 replied to No game's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Thank you Laura for posting. I am 5months and 78 lbs out from surgery. This post is both encouraging and frightening to read. Encouraging knowing I am not alone in my food addiction and struggles with trying to find the place I fit in a world of people that encourage/support my journey and those same people who tell me "just a little isn't going to hurt you." Just yesterday after telling a dear friend that I gained 2 lbs over the weekend after drinking alcohol for the first time after surgery, he said "2 lbs, really get perspective, 2 lbs will be back off by the end of the week." I feel that people just don't get my mindset that 2 lbs hurt, the feeling that I could lose momentum and lose my way scares the @##$ out of me. So I too plan drinking, eating, exercise and sleep like it was the plan to world peace! This was frightening because I have read yours and other veteran posts and realize that this really will be a lifelong struggle.....but I feel with the sleeve, I CAN succeed...it will just be a battle that I have tools for. Again, thanks for posting and sorry all if this is a rambling blah blah blah. -
I Just Saw This And I Like It Hope You Guys Like It
RJ'S/beginning replied to jungarcia's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Very nice sentiment but..........I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it is never over....It is a day to day battle to beat an addiction...Just like an alcoholic does not drink anymore he is still an alcoholic and must constantly be aware of what is going on around him.. That is the same with us...Day to day struggle we will never be totally healed...We are like a puzzle, one piece at a time until we have figured it all out and then we can't let our guard down..We must keep up the struggle.. The benefits are numerous and our health and self worth will improve..but there is always work to be done.... -
Oh The Holiday Treats....
HoosierGirl replied to HoosierGirl's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was so satisfied with scrambled eggs for breakfast and tuna at lunch. If the junk isn't around, then I can't eat it. (Maybe this is how my hubby has lost 30 lbs since my sleeve?? Ha!) So if an alcoholic avoids alcohol, a druggie avoids drugs, former fatties must avoid Rice Krispie Treats!!! It's sure true for me! Moderation and occasional indulgences are great and I do that - but having the temptation sitting on the counter while snowbound at home all weekend is a recipe for disaster! -
The holidays should be a joyous time for all. Just because we are no longer able to abuse food the way we use to shouldn't exclude us from participating. I am going into my third holiday season as a sleever and here is what I have done: Participate like you have 100% of your stomach. As crazy as this may sound, it is true. At our office party, which has a ton of food and sweets, I grab a plate of food and I walk around with it nibbling here and there. By no means do I finish the plate, but I appear to be participating. Oh, and I grab the high Protein stuff. (and maybe one cookie) Bring what you brought previously. I am known for my english toffee. I make dozens of batches each year, hand out bags to my co-workers and set a huge plate of it for the office party. That hasn't changed. I just don't indulge in eating the toffee the way I used to. I know the dark path that leads me, so, I just don't do it. Everybody gets their toffee fix and I get my ego boost for all the toffee adulation. Carry a drink around. I don't indulge in alcoholic beverages though I think everybody else except for one person at my office does. I usually hang pretty close to them, but I do grab sparkling apple cider. Now, it is bubbly which my tummy doesn't handle very well, so I will have that glass pretty much the whole time. But, you find what works for you. Apple juice would be great option. Engage. If you act like you are a fish out of Water then you ARE a fish out of water. You don't have to over indulge in drink and food to have a good time no matter what you may have thought in the past. You can laugh and chat and have a good time without going overboard. After all, everybody else is going to be drunk so they will laugh at all your stories ... right? If you find yourself struggling, then you need to know there are other issues with your relationship with food. If you feel you need food to Celebrate and are mourning not being able to abuse food the way you used to, then I have good news for you. You are starting to confront some of the demons in your closet as to why you were morbidly obese to begin with. This is an opportunity for you to begin doing the work to have healthier coping mechanisms. So, go out there and enjoy your holidays, gosh darn it!
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5 Week Post Op... Band Fill Question For The Newbie
Bandista replied to Txpo Chick's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi there, I am at week five, too! I wrote a post about my first fill last week but I'm not computer savvy enough to find it for you. First of all, I had the same experience of hunger returning. At first post-op I wasn't hungry and so now I know what the band can do for me. Love that! But the hunger did return maybe at three weeks -- varies greatly for people. Some are hungry right away so I think I was really lucky. I went for my first fill last Wednesday and will go back this Wednesday for a possible second fill. Basically it went like this: connected with the surgeon again (I like this guy a lot), went over the return of hunger and how I had one slime throw up episode, what that was like (ate too much too fast of course), then he had me lie back on the table, felt around for my port (they only use fluoroscopy if there's a problem), cleaned area with alcohol, gave a shot of painkiller that just pinched a little, no big deal. Then he was giving me an arm to sit up and I said, "what about the fill?!" He had already done it and I didn't realize it because it was so quick and easy and we were chatting. -
Do you mean non-alcoholic cider?
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Had my first RNY in 2004. Went from 275 to 169 in 2008. Had some major life issues going on and developed an addiction to alcohol. Weighing 277 and clean, I had a revised RNY and multiple hernia repair on 12/4/13. Hoping for a better future, but fully aware that I have to make it so.
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I haven't tried it but would like too....I've heard alcohol has more kick post surgery, ie dumps into the bowel quicker and is more quickly absorbed? Any truth to this rumor....?* Well... I've always been partial to a libation or two.. and, I must say, wine has a tendency to sit me on my backside now (makes me sleepy), so I generally stay well clear. (Also gives me rotten indigestion, too) As for other alcoholic beverages; they get to your head quicker - for sure. However, the old tolerance (although somewhat diminished in comparison) seems to kick in once you get your 'drinking head' on... But the consumption is considerably reduced in volume because the stomach is smaller. I am not a huge spirits drinker - which is easier to consume - because it's less volume. But its also a bit dangerous, because since the surgery, its been hard to gauge when the fine line between being 'merry' or 'drunk' has been reached. If I am drinking, I prefer a cider or a Guinness most of the time anyhow... I think on balance it's 'better' for me - because there's less alcohol and I know where I am with it... As for 'dumping'.. Wouldn't know. Haven't done it on booze specifically. Then in saying that, if you have 4 glasses of Guinness you're going to get 'interesting' movements the next day anyway! But I think I've been fine, because primarily I've eaten something hearty before I've had a drink which lines the stomach...
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I haven't tried it but would like too....I've heard alcohol has more kick post surgery, ie dumps into the bowel quicker and is more quickly absorbed? Any truth to this rumor....?*
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Sugar Free Hard Candy...? Is It Cheating?
Mel1071 replied to Memily's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Beware of sugar free candies - they can be loaded with sugar alcohols that can wreak havoc with your system. If there is any ingredient with "itol" at the end (malitol, sorbitol, xylitol, etc) - look out - that's a sugar alcohol. For an amusing view of what problems sugar alcohols can cause, read this http://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Gummy-Candy-Sugarless-5-Pound/product-reviews/B000EVQWKC -
Sugar Free Hard Candy...? Is It Cheating?
bobheist replied to Memily's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I don't think it's cheating at all. Just be careful of carbs and sugar-alcohols. Some of the sugar-free Gummy Bears and Jellybeans I've looked at have more carbs than I had expected. And the sugar alcohols can have a laxative effect... -
Sooo... Tmi But Has Anyone Ever Had An Infected Belly Button?
HumorMe00 replied to endless80's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I've had belly button problems over the last month or so. Super itchy, red, smelly. Just yuck. After looking around online, fungal infection seemed to be the most likely culprit. First thing I tried was some athletes foot spray I had laying around. Ouch! The amount of alcohol in it + broken skin was not a very pleasant combo. Picked up some athletes foot cream. A little dab delivered via q-tip 2-3 times did the trick. I'm still treating it, but no longer have any symptoms. Just trying to make sure it's totally gone. -
The Uncomfortable Truth....
Hidden from view replied to Madam Reverie's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
No one made me fat. I did it to myself - but not on purpose. Food (and alcohol) was like medicine. It made me feel OK in a way that nothing else did (does!). Now that I don't drink, and post-sleeve I don't eat, I feel quite lonely. Like I have lost a good friend. I know food and alcohol weren't true friends, but I miss them anyway... -
Wine For Improved Weight Loss
kll724 replied to MyHighway's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Wow, I have never heard of the drinkng wine with dinner thingy, but heh, its your surgeon rules to follow! My only thing is that alcohol hits me quicker! I am one cheap date,now, 1/2 a meal and 1 drink! Best wishes!! -
In my program 6 months is the time before ETOH. I just had wine for Thanksgiving. 2 glasses. Got tipsy so WATCH OUT and stay in control, don't substitute alcohol for food! (it happens)
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I second Laura on these answers. Hot sauce OK but try it slowly. Straws ok, but try it slowly, some have trouble, I don't. Alcohol in small amounts ok, but watch the calories and wait a good long time after surgery or ask your dr. Carbonation I personally can't do anymore. Makes me ill after surgery. Search the threads on carbonation for more opinions. It does mess with the sleeve, but to what extent, who knows. It is generally considered a nono. Caffeine is another question you will have before long.
