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You're doing great Fiddleman. You've reached goal and are maintaining you weight and fitness level. I lost 115lbs this year and still want to lose 35lbs more. This holiday season has been a bit of a challenge, as my wife is entertaining again ( I spent the last three years recovering from late year surgery. It is my tradition to make certain items for our family and friends. My wife loves my coquito (Spanish egg nog- made with condensed milk, coconut cream, and lots of alcohol and my fried chicken, and my specialty cocktails). Since we entertained large crowds, it was easy to taste my handy work to make sure it was suitable for my guests. Last year was not an issue but this one was. I didn't go over my daily calorie limits, but definitely tried things I have not tasted since my pre-op days.
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New Year, Fresh Start
Wisdom2KnowTheDifference posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hey everyone, its been awhile since I've been on the boards! I just wanted to share my story... I was banded September 2012. I learned pretty quickly how to eat (and drink!) "around" the band. I did not commit to an exercise routine, and have chosen mostly foods that I know will go down (carbs and lots of high-fat snack foods, mostly). As such, the only weight I have lost to date was due to the pre-op and post-op liquid diet. Now I have gained that back, and more. I have not been in for a fill adjustment since probably last Spring. Over the past year, I definitely have had some issues with what I believe is called "transference" - or turning to another addiction in absence of the ability to binge eat. For me, it was alcohol. I have always been a social drinker, but in August 2013 I ended up in a mental hospital after a drinking binge - the booze had interacted with the medications I take to help regulate my moods and I had become suicidal. I was in the hospital for 2 weeks, after which they wanted to send me to a 30-day rehab. I opted for an intensive outpatient program instead, which I attended for about 5 weeks before I relapsed. Since that relapse, I have continued to drink daily, with periods of heavy drinking interspersed. There is no doubt that the amount of liquid calories I consume has greatly impeded my weight loss attempts, though I have had no further bouts of deep depression since my hospitalization. I'm sharing all of this because with new year, I am making a new commitment to myself. I am going to try my best to do everything I need to do to help the band help me with reaching my weight loss goals. This includes scaling back the drinking (currently 24 hours sober!) and quitting smoking. Luckily, I am pretty well educated about band-life, as the one thing I did do right in the beginning was my research. But I believe the learning neve stops and I can always learn from others' experiences. Anyway, I have about 100lb to lose now and though I am not very confident, I am committed to at least doing the absolute best I can. Thanks for letting me share -
There isn't doubt that I have changed since my surgery. Some people may tell you I have changed for the worse. Others, myself included, will say I have changed for the better. I am certainly more confident, and I have become less tolerant of being treated poorly. I have had to readjust some friendships and relationships along they way as I realised how some were not that good for me. Those people may well say that my WLS changed me for the worse. I know that I am now more authentic, honest and true to myself. It is hard to measure our own behaviour by other people's expectations. All we can do is be honest with ourselves. As for the alcohol, we are all different. I drink alcohol, I regularly have a glass of wine with dinner. I occasionally over indulge (the last two weeks have been particularly over indulgent!) but I do not see any difference with tolerating alcohol post sleeve. Certainly this was the case when I first had a drink about eight weeks after surgery but over time this normalised and it is no different for me now. I just factor it in like any other calorie that I have to burn. I know there are all sorts of stories about cross addiction with food to alcohol post WLS. Certainly there is some evidence to indicate a risk for individuals with addictive type personality ,family history of addiction and so on. Remember of course that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. There are definitely stories, trends, and indications but little in the way of double blind randomized controlled trials on addiction transfer post bariatric surgery. I do not consider I had a food addiction prior to WLS. If you consider you do, then it may well be wise to avoid alcohol post surgery. Only you will know what is right for you here as only you will truly be able identify whether you have addiction.
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This is most definitely a thing and you are right to be aware/concerned about the possibility. Especially if you have had any kind of "issue" or blip specifically in your own past. I also like the idea of avoiding alcohol (etc) altogether after surgery if you have any inkling that it could be a problem for you. Good luck to you!!
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After WLS, booze is different. Your metabolism is obviously much different and alcohol hits you different. My buddy's mom had bypass and her "wine with dinner" turned into full bore alcoholism in seemingly no time at all. For me, I made the decision to become a tea totaler. I always enjoyed the flavors and feeling of a fine adult beverage. But with this new stomach, I really dont see much benefit there to outweigh the risk.
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Hello everyone! Now that I am officially sleeved, I have some concerns that I would like to share and seek advice. I know a few people ( my sister included) who, after WLS, began a downward spiral of making bad decisions. They turned their food addictions to alcohol. They began to party excessively. Their personality changed for the worse. They have basically become just different people ( for the worse). I am so worried about "smelling" myself a little too much and will begin to act differently. I have been small before. I have been on the party scene before and I am hoping that that is out of my system and I won't feel the need to reclaim my youth. But I guess my question is, have any of you been told that you have changed ( for the worse) or know someone who has after WLS? Is this a concern I am just making up in my head?
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Why Does Everyone Want To Be A "Food Addict?"
Terry Poperszky replied to Warren L. Huberman PhD.'s topic in Weight Loss Surgery Magazine
Admitting an addiction doesn't absolve you of responsibility, it simply means that you have greater self awareness. I personally don't have a problem with "Certain Foods", I have a problem with ALL foods. Did it occur to you that those "7 Habits" were simply the tools they used to battle their addiction, much as an alcoholic will use a 12 step program to battle their addiction? Besides, if having to have WLS and and your GE system altered (band, sleeve, GB) to finally gain some control over my excess weight doesn't classify me as a "food addict" then I don't know what does.- 19 replies
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HOW TO GUIDE for Chewing and Spitting
SuperFab replied to Gone's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
They aren't alcoholics. If you're going to reply, reply to what I said. Not to wine tasting. -
HOW TO GUIDE for Chewing and Spitting
Gone replied to Gone's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Forgot to mention to superfatty, someone already stole your alcohol idea. It's the Illinois Senate. http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/gutcheck/2012/04/sip_and_spit_passes_in_illinoi.php -
HOW TO GUIDE for Chewing and Spitting
SuperFab replied to Gone's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I guess your next post will be for alcoholics just to swish the liquor around in their mouths then spit it out. WTF man???- 58 replies
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April 2013 Post-Op Group
ajustice replied to Wendilou's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Awesome! Well the tattoo I have on my left boob is definitely droopy. Then again my boobs are almost totally gone just some skin where they use to be :/ I've had a funky smelly episode from a bit of skin closing over my belly button. I kept just trying to make sure I keep it dry and used soap and Water and occasionally a q tip with alcohol. It was itchy and funky but it's a lot better. I can't afford plastics either but my thighs are like roll up lamp shades. I could literally roll the skin up. This is the year we reach our 1 year surgerversary!!! Happy New Year -
I had the sleeve 3 months ago. Start weight was 298 the day of surgery. Did not weigh before. I have lost 46 lbs. I feel great. It was tough in The beginning but I can eat anything I want in small portions. I have been very good for the majority of time with high protein/low carb foods. I did however enjoy the holidays with carb enriched foods/alcohol and sweets. Not excessively. Honestly I am fine with my decisions!!! I am Already back on track. I have way more control than I once did I am ready to go hard and I want to spend the next 3 months focused and really loose. My question is this: Has anyone really stepped it up in months 3-6? And lost as much or more than They did in months 1-3 Thank you!!!!!
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Agreed. We have to read the labels. Sugar alcohol is different than artificial sweetener. It's a carb. And not good for us with blood sugar problems. I will probably look around for the liquid stevia. My fily really went nuts when my sister pulled out the computer and searched Truvia. We all thought it was natural. My mom had a fit. She thought she finally found the golden ticket!
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Attention ! Australian Sleevers
Aussiegirl replied to Lavea's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Happy New Year Everyone!! I have not been back here in a while but still see all your updates come through to my phone. Good to see some more newbies come in and the "oldies" still around Everyone is looking and doing amazing. I admit to having lost my way for a little bit. After the prolonged recovery from the plastic surgery (where no exercise was allowed), quickly followed or concurrently with a very stressful period of work (travelling constantly/demanding clients/long long long long hours) and then overseas trip and Christmas (read alcohol period) I admit to having lost my way for a bit, and found I have put on 5 kgs from the lowest I have been. Strangely tho I dont look like I have (but go figure). So much for getting off the weight rollercoaster, i think for me it is life balancing act. I am back into it and back to trying to get into 2 work outs a day (a kick starter so to speak), as I know how hard I still have to work, but 5kgs is better than 75kgs. And now I do know that I can do it, through eatting better and exercising more (besides I do feel better emotionally when I am exercising) and I have two 5km runs to get ready for at the end of Jan/beginning of Feb. I hope everyone is well. -
Artificial sweetners
Alex Brecher replied to sheilarae's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
I read articles about the evils of artificial sweeteners often. The media loves talking about their relation to cancer. They really freak me out! The FDA says most are "safe". I wish we had more concrete evidence on what's safe and what's not that safe. I was a huge Splenda fan until approximately one year ago. I quit my 6-8 daily cups of coffee along with the 3-4 packets of Splenda that went along with each. I converted to decaf herbal tea and use Stevia as my sweetener of choice. Supposedly not all Stevia sweeteners are created equal. Many are mixed with other ingredients. My personal favorite so far is NuNaturals Pure liquid vanilla Stevia, Alcohol Free. -
You're not hijacking. I wanted to see a discussion and I thank those so far that have responded. I'm stilly confused about the fact, that, according to Mayo Clinic sugar substitutes don't alwsyd affect blood sugar but sugar alcohol can. Not all artificial sweeteners contain sugar alcohol. My family is still actively debating this and Iis leaning toward saying using a little sugar is healthier. My head is spinning.
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Follow my Gastric Sleeve journey from Day 1 post op!
dreamscometrue replied to dreamscometrue's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Hello there! Haha, definitely ZERO alcohol! That would be a horrible idea, as I'm only 2 weeks out! I drank Crystal Lite at a NYE party we went to and nobody even said a word. There were a lot of yummy desserts and I didn't even take a single bite of anything. I still had fun though and I really didn't have a desire to drink or eat any of the food. We ate dinner at home before we went and I felt satisfied! Thanks for asking and yes, Happy New Year to all! Here's to 2014! -
I was told 6 months but I've been fine without alcohol so I will continue with water
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I have no stance on consumption. I'd just be interested to see how 'happy' the government will be when they add to the set of problems they currently have, caused by alcohol, with a whole new set of additional social, political, legal and wholly more problematic psycho-social medical issues as can be caused by pot smoking? Particularly in adolescents who seem to reap the worst 'benefits' of smoking cannabis during their 'developmental' years. Lest we get into the argument of 'one drug leads to an other' or how through legalisation and if consumed whole-sale, how it might damage the pharmaceutical industry by impacting upon their profits. Although, who is to say that those companies wouldn't end up producing the stuff themselves and it being part of the governments long-term plan? In my inexperienced opinion and if the 2nd, 3rd and 4th order effects were calculated? I can't see it being worth the money accrued through taxation of the market, because of the much greater expenditure which would be required elsewhere (fiscal, medical, enforcement activity, market protection, etc.) Although in saying that and conspiracy theories abound... Who's to say that some of those effects might not actually be part of the desired outcome which is why the legalisation - or at least decriminalisation - is spreading? Now, there's a thought!
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I think they ought to legalize pot if alcohol is legal. Not much difference.....except pot has zero calories.
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I live in Denver and although most if what you have stated is accurate there are some things that I could clear up for you. Colorado legalized pot for several reasons. 1. To tax the hell out of it and give the money to the school system. 2. To regulate it so people got what they paid for and nothing laced or fake or anything like that. Buying pot in the street can be dangerous and you don't know what you are getting. 3. Pot tourism looks to bring a lot of money to Colorado. People with out of state drivers licenses can not buy as much as a state resident but they can come to Colorado and purchase and enjoy. Also, pot may not be consumed openly on the streets it in public areas. It may be consumed on your property or in privately owned businesses where NO alcohol is served. Don't think you come to Denver and see people hitting bongs while they walk down the street. The state has also imposed high driving laws similar to drunk driving laws. You are not allowed to smoke while driving or be high. They pull you over and test you. No where in the street is pot $25 an ounce. People currently pay more on the street for the same pot you buy with a medical card because someone had to go but it first then sell it to you. So the cost will likely go down for consumers purchasing it legally. I am not a regular pot smoker. I have smoked it on occasion for recreational purposes but since I am only 15 days post op I will wait until I am feeling a little better to try it again. I support all peoples opinions on this matter but have found that most people who oppose recreational pot have never smoked it.
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Today: 100s and 1000s (dare I say millions) are traveling to the legal pot Mecca of the USA : Colorado. They are arriving by plane, by train or even by camper to participate in what fondly has been named "Green Day." http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/12/31/colorado-readies-for-green-wednesday-pot-sales/ Legally a person can buy up to 1 oz of pot, smoke it publicly and face zero consequences from it. Sounds like a big party to me. Or a train wreck. It could go either way. The questions (ignoring any moral implications of post use for the moment - I am opposed to use): How did such a law get passed in the first place? Must be some really good lobbying. Why would the state of Colorado want this? Is pot going to end up like alcohol and tobacco industries where big business lobby political parties to pass new laws in the name of Capitalism? How long do you think legal pot use will last? When do you think it will go nation wide? If pot becomes a legal commodity for consumers, I can see it being easy to buy everywhere from gas stations to Safeway with perhaps age restrictions. The price may come down. Today, it is going to sell for about 200 dollars an ounce from Denver pot stores where it is known to sell for 25 dollars on the street (according to some research). Government would be advised to lower the price in a fixed range if they want to clean up the street sales of it. After all, why would someone pay 200 when same quantity is available for 25 on the street corner? I admit that legal pot sales will probably have better quality controls then the illegal pot sales. Government would want to prevent the start of pandemics from bad fungus and that sot of thing (or would they, hmmm...) And before you write off this topic as being completely non weight loss related, check out the following article that claims pot use lowers the insulin response: www.womenshealthmag.com/weight-loss/marijuana-and-weight-loss This thread is just a fun little discussion in "the lounge." No holy wars please. Just be honest and friendly with your responses.
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Hope everyone had great holidays with their families I just wanted to post an update and I was curious to see everyone elses updates as well. Starting Weight: 316 Surgery Weight:299 Goal Weight: 160 Current weight: 238 Biggest challenge: Getting all my fluids in, I wait to drink 30 min after I eat but i still struggle with remembering not to drink 30 min before I eat. Biggest Fail: I had some alcohol over the holidays *hangs head in shame* Biggest accomplishment: I am almost to my goal of weighing 230 by January 10th!!
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December 2013 Sleevers This Is Our Month Are Yall Ready!?
Idlewood4 replied to sleevinIT's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Just wanted to check in and wish all my fellow December sleevers a very Happy New Year. Had my 3 week post op visits with my nutritionist and nurse today. They went well, and I have clearance to eat anything I want as long as it's healthy, eat a small portion, and chew chew chew. Protein first, veggies next, fruit, then whole grains. They said I was right on target. I start their 8 week post op program next Wednesday, and I start my 3 month exercise program on Monday. (They encourage us to do it longer than 3 months, but 3 months is included in the bariatric surgery package.) Saw my endocrinologist yesterday, and my A1C is lower than it's been since 2009. I am so thrilled I had the sleeve. I hope you all are doing well, and are meeting the New Year with better health and happiness! No caffeine, alcohol, carbonated beverages. No decaf for 6 months. That makes me sad, but the weight loss progress is worth it. -
Its been 9 days since my lap band surgery.
kassy07 replied to kassy07's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I have my first appointment for a fill on the 9th, I cant wait! I definately cant do bread as well. Milk is my best friend, as well as creamy mashed couliflower w/cheese, I am making a broccily cheese soup in my crock pot that I hope turns out good! my biggest thing is just changing my habbits of wanting to snack while watching tv or when I go out, i dont need to eat when everyone else is. And my coworkers and peers are the worst.... "cant you just have one bite?" or "Taste this?" Its new years eve tonight and everyone will be drinking and I am afraid to try alcohol....
