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How long did it take you to make a decision?
ChooseToChange replied to Eyemallrt's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I made the decision at Universal Studios when I couldn't get on a ride that just 6 months earlier I could get on. I looked into surgery 10 years ago, but wasn't ready to give up food and alcohol at the time (I was 20). Now I've grown up and out so it's time!! It has taken me 2 months to get all the tests and dr. clearances and my surgery date is in 19 days and I'm not even cranky on my pre-op diet! Know that you are ready to make the change and if your not... its not your time yet. If you are jump on the bandwagon and we will all be here for you! Good Luck! -
I was sleeved 3 years ago today. Ask me anything.
DaleCruse replied to DaleCruse's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I can have wine, but as I mentioned in another reply, I grew to like wine too much. I was drinking one to two bottles every night. I'm proud to say I haven't had any alcohol for more than 10 weeks! What do I do when I'm in a large group? I tell people, "Enjoy!" I eat my portion & that's that. I've regained nearly 40 of the 108lbs I lost. I'm not proud of that. Alcohol played a part. I'm sorry to read you're nauseous & constipated. I hope both of those improve for you! -
Odd and possibly stupid question
adagray replied to sld21's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I got so tight when I went to Vegas that I could barely eat. But, I figured it was because I wasn't drinking as much water as normal and I was drinking alcohol. So, I was probably a bit dehydrated and I know that makes my band tighter. -
Hi Kay, As far as Diet coke I still don't drink carbonation drinks. I sipped it once and it gave me an amount of Gas that I won't forget. But I've read people here that can tolerate carbonation. Being real about Alcohol. Talk to your doctor. I do have an occasional drink of alcohol but I can't tolerate sugary drinks of any I tried it my self at the same time. That said enjoy your Holiday.
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Almost 1 month after operation - losing more than 1lb per day
gowalking replied to Knapptown357's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
I also have not had any fills and it is as you say, a double-edged sword because we can eat anything and it will go down. For me, that means I have to be even more diligent because I can eat unhealthy and in larger volumes. My experience is that it takes at times, a little longer to feel satiety so I have to be listening closely or I'll miss the signs and go right to uncomflortable. Plus it doesn't take much to get there. Just the other day, I was out to lunch with a friend and we ordered a chicken quesedilla. I ate one quarter of it...which is typical but then I decided to take another small piece from another quarter. It wasn't much, but after I ate it, I knew I shouldn't have. I was too full the rest of the day and by dinnertime, I was still uncomfortable. Since I was out again for dinner, I took very small...and I mean really small portions of the meal and called it a day. I'm glad you are doing so well so soon out...I'm just going to caution you on the beer...just make sure the carbonation is OK with the doctor, and remember...alcohol is empty calories. I drink too...but in moderation. Best wishes on your continued success! -
I had a two week pre-op diet that I had to follow. So could not have alcohol during that time. Otherwise, prior to that I was on my normal diet. I don't recall anything specific about alcohol prior to surgery. If you want to be sure, call your surgeon's office and ask. And for what it's worth, I disagree with Last Meal Syndrome. You will be able to eat your favorite foods again, just not in the same proportions.
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Every doctor is different, mine says no alcohol 2 weeks before surgery. I also have a 12 day pre-op diet before surgery, so the previous poster's rules wouldn't apply to me, either. Check with your doctor.
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• I was taking Gas-X. He told me to stop taking it and to use Maalox Maximum Relief. • I was drinking a Protein shake called ENS chocolate Milk. I would mix it up thin but as it would sit it would get very thick. He asked me to stop drinking it for a while. • i was taking my multi-Vitamins in the morning. He said that they can sometimes cause gas/bloating/nausea so he asked me to take them at night before bed. • I was using soy milk for my shakes. He asked me to use regular milk for a while and see what happened. • I was taking one or two SF mints daily for my breath. The contained sugar alcohols so he asked me to stop. Unfortunately, I did all of this at once so I have no idea what made the difference. Hope this helps :-)
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Is there alcholol at all after the Sleeve?
Elisabethsew replied to attitudefree's topic in Food and Nutrition
Alcohol is fattening but i don't know of any reason why you can't have a glass of wine. -
Watching others eat. Revulsion.
MzB replied to Emilie.Lancaster's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
If your are still close to your surgery date, I think the repulsion response is probably pretty typical. Your body is still adjusting to the new smaller stomach and your hormones are adjusting too. I remember that sensation of watching others load a plate and thinking "wow! how on earth?". But then I recall that when I had the same response when I had the flu or a cold, the thought of eating anything major was sort of sickening. this thought reminded me that we just did major surgery and our body is healing. Our bodies natural signals to our brain will be "don't you dare feed me!" This can translate to how we view all food, even that which is consumed by others. I liked @@HopeandAgony 's response as well. When watching others it is good to remember that this was us only a short time ago. Something I noticed about myself was that I was a little too self-righteous about my ability to turn down food those first few months. Something I had always struggled to do now became soooo easy. "No, I am fine and don't want a cookie", "Thank you, but I am going to pass on the chips", "No alcohol for me, thanks anyway...." Mentally, I was saying to myself. "You go girl, you are rocking this!" Just be aware that the further out you get the more that turning food offers down and sitting there while everyone has cake and ice cream gets much harder. I have to remind myself that they don't mean to sabotage me, they are just being nice. Such a different perspective now. I think it was at about 4 months head hunger really kicked in for me. Thankfully I had read things on these forums that helped me be somewhat prepared, but my self-righteous attitude went out the door and now I find that I have to work at setting myself up for the tough moments when someone offers me something. I also learned not to beat myself up too badly when I give in and say yes. I just remind myself to be careful or only take a small portion. But that is my journey, each person can be different. -
a success story at week 3? lol..
Sophie74656 replied to Angry Banana's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
congrats on the loss you could still probably have those drinks but without the alcohol, they will still taste good -
NO new profound, genius statement just worth repeating the obvious smoking, caffeine, alcohol, eating any one or combination, are our worst enemies i continually work with/against my demon of poor eating habits/over eating in my case help/answer to addiction...... "one day at a time" works for me kathy
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Hi everyone. First I want to say that the night I found this website I really cried. I don't know a single other person with a lapband and I didn't realize how much I needed support and understanding like this. yay. I have been browsing posts for a couple weeks and thought I would jump in and share about myself and get all those intro questions out there. My name is Rebecca, I am 30 years old. I currently live in Saline, Michigan (near Ann Arbor) and am married with 2 children. I am an attorney but currently at home with my babies. Why am I so fat? In my head I know it is because I consume more calories than I expend. right. Apparently so does every female on both sides of my family. I think I use food as a comfort and a stress management tool. When I see my daughter reach for her binky for comfort I realize its just like me with a snickers bar. Without an almost constant influx of Snacks (even healthy ones) I feel out of control. I basically gained 20 or so pounds every year since I was a teenager. There was a period from when I was about 18-23 that I drank fountain drink Pepsi almost nonstop and ate complete garbage. At that point I had some success with weight watchers. I also spent a lot of time at the gym (with my new husband - working out is his "thing") but I never really felt like that helped. I feel a real disconnect with my body. I never know if the weight I am lifting is enough or too much. I never know if I have done enough cardio. I can talk myself into 1 minute being too much. My first year of law school I think I gained 40 pounds. It was a stressful time for me and I managed in every way that I could. If heroin had been available to me I think I would have used that. At the end of my first year of law school I began to go on job interviews and felt more judged than I ever had before. I noticed people walk on the other side of the hallway when I was coming (really? I am not going to take up that much room!) I knew that I had to do something - if not for my health or vanity than because it was going to be necessary to succeed professionally. I wanted surgery. My Surgery - I had my surgery at the Wish Center in Salt Lake City, Utah. (no, it is no longer there). Dr. Hanafy was my doctor, although he broke his hand the day before and a doctor from the Seattle Wish Center did my actual surgery. I had it done laproscopically. I have a 10 ml band. My pre-op weight (the highest of my lifetime) was 369.5. Three Hundred Sixty Nine and One-Half Pounds! I am 5'10. My BMI was 55. My surgery was on November 19, 2004. I self-paid through a payment plan because insurance denied me. I think the principal was about $14,000.00. (as a note, I had first tried to have surgery in March of 2003 from Dr. Legrand Belnap. I was denied by my insurance because I did not have a history of medical issues (i.e. I don't go to the doctor when my back or knees hurt because I know why they hurt). Also, to be honest, I didn't feel comfortable with that doctor. He gave me a breast exam that I thought was unnecessary and a bit predatorialish and there was a weird energy there). After surgery I was all gung-ho to only eat 1/2 cup of food at a time, drink Water throughout the day but not 1/2 before or after eating. I bought these little rubbermaid cups that were 1/2 cup to use as my dishes. I stopped drinking carbonation and alcohol. I strictly followed the liquids/then squishies/then softies regiment. I remember the first few days drinking the exact amount of Protein shake every two hours because I was worried about getting enough protein to recover quickly. I was in my second year of law school and had a five-day break for thanksgiving and I couldn't miss any other days. Post-Surgery - I lost twenty pounds the first two weeks. I was thrilled. But once I reached the eat-1/2 cup of solid food stage everything went downhill. I would eat one-half cup of food and then I was hungry and distracted within an hour, which was annoying and frustrating. My doctor would only do 1/2 cc of fill at a time. It did not work. I lost my willpower and began to eat more so that I could function in my life. (it is also annoying when you are a self-pay because you pay for adjustments!) I did reach a point at about 2.5 cc that my stomach became irritated and I could only drink liquids so I immediately had it taken back down to 2 ccs. At 2 ccs I was not full after 1/2 cup of food. But what is full? I don't think I really knew if I was full or not. Maybe I was just not psychologically satisfied with that amount of food. There was also the issue of: this is my lunch hour, I have to eat now and I won't have time to eat again in one hour so I better eat as much as I can. My husband called my lapband my "bulimia button" because it operated to make me throw up at will, not really to restrict my eating. I knew no one else with a lap band and felt isolated and alone and frustrated. Oh yeah and the Wish Center closed and my doctor moved away so I had no doctor either. The other doctors around would not see me unless I paid an "enrollment fee" and went through a bunch of preliminary B.S. I lost about fifty pounds in the first year and 1/2. Then I became preganant with my first baby - a suprise. (I don't think I could have become pregnant unless I lost that weight). I was really sick and throwing up and worried about displacing the band. I had a doctor reduce the lapband back to no fill. That baby is two years old now. I did have a fill after the baby, but had it reduced again when I was pregnant with my second for the same reasons. My second baby is three months old now. Where I am now: Currently, my lap band is not filled. I gained about 20 pounds in my second pregnancy and have lost that in the last three months. I have been counting calories and breastfeeding. I calculated my Base Metabolic Rate (BMR) and subtracted 1000 so that I would have a deficiet of 7000 calories per week. 3500 calories = 1 pounds so if I eat 7000 less than my BMR I should lose 2 pounds a week. I did not account for the approximately 500 calories needed to make breastmilk. I try to be active and take my 2 year old and baby to the park and such regularly but I don't account for that in my calorie goals. So I try to eat under 2000 calories a day and it seems to be working. I am currently at 327, I think 320 has been my lowest post-lapband weight. I am thinking about getting a fill and giving the lap band a try. There is a Barix Clinic in Ypsilanti and I hope they will give me a fill without making me pay a lot to enroll in a program. I hope to get support from this website and look forward to connecting with more of you. I want to be a bandster, I just feel like a wanna-be My links: http://www.myspace.com/eyevoryshiny my myspace, updated pretty regularly http://www.flickr.com/photos/rebeccarandom my pictures at flickr I will try to post a before and current when I get a chance.
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Lean heavy on support systems, they are fantastic! Unfortunately for me it ment 3 weeks of not going out on weekends with my friends. Get me in a bar with whiskey and a bunch of chain smoking friends and it's game over! Lol. My doc said you need to shrink you liver prior to surgery. If its too large when they get in there they will stop and not complete the surgery. I have to take a nicotine test prior to going under. I stopped all fried foods, alcohol, and cigaretts.
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You may have developed a small ulcer and it can be fixed easily with a prescribed antacid. I have taken one for years and will continue taking it even though my ulcer has healed. Maybe the stress of waiting for your surgery and all the paper work has just stressed you out (leading cause of ulcers) along with caffeine, nicotine and alcohol. I would back off any of those if you are using them in any way. Good Luck.
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fyi-per my dentist, sugar fee mints have sorbitol...an alcohol....which is drying and causes bad breath.
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Good party, but I wind up feeling bad....
gowalking replied to CowgirlJane's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I appreciate your story CowgirlJane. I went through a difficult time with my son and DIL yesterday related to my behavior with my grandson and not respecting my DIL as the boy's mother. I must admit I have issues with her and they do spill over. Suffice to say I was very upset yesterday and Mother's Day is in jeopardy. When I got off the phone with my son, the first thing I wanted to do was eat. Anything. Just stuff my face. I wanted to lash out and defend myself...and since I couldn't, I wanted to eat instead. I know that this is my pattern...and I have to learn how not to go that route. Just like a drug addict..or an alcoholic. I know this morning that while the issues with my son and DIL are still unresolved, I at least am not mired in guilt because I also fell off the wagon. As far as your party...you know that you cannot control everything that happens when people are together. Sometimes feelings will be hurt or bruised...things will happen...things will be said. Please don't be tempted to throw out the baby with the bathwater because it sounds like this party was a huge step for you and with all huge steps comes some missteps at times. Just remember to keep on keeping on. Oh...and one more thing...I'm also terrified of being hurt and vulnerable and that was alot of the reasons behind my gaining so much weight...and being so afraid of putting myself out there so just know that even virtually, I have your back and am hoping only the best for you. -
Dietary Guidelines Once you can eat solid foods without problems, you need to carefully follow your new diet: Avoid drinking liquids during or immediately after meals as liquids tend to flush food through the stomach pouch. This prevents you from getting that prolonged feeling of satisfaction needed to help you eat less. As always, staying hydrated throughout the day is important, however. Drink at least six to eight cups of Water per day, and make sure you consume them between meals. Chew your food thoroughly and eat small bites so that the food can easily fit through the opening to your stomach pouch. This will help you avoid the problem of food blocking the stomach outlet. Only eat when you are hungry and no more than three small meals a day, but you must make sure that these meals contain adequate nutrition. Remember, your stomach can only hold about one-quarter of a cup of food, or two ounces, at a time. Stop eating when your hunger is gone or when you feel comfortable. The general nutrition guide below can help you create good and healthy meals that contain adequate nutrients but low sugar and fat: Good Food Choices Fruits and vegetables One to two servings of fresh fruit daily Two to three servings of fresh vegetables daily [*]Breads and cereals One small portion of low-sugar cold or hot Cereal Half to one slice of toasted whole wheat or rye bread each day. Note: Some patients have difficulty eating bread [*]meat, fish, poultry, eggs One to two ounces of meat, fish, or poultry-or one egg each day. Remove all visible fat from the meat. Remove the skin from poultry. Prepare the meat in ways that need very little fat. Grilling, steaming, microwaving, or boiling are all good ways to do this. Note: Some patients have difficulty eating meat. [*]Dairy products Milk and yogurt are calories in liquid form. However, these types of food have Calcium, which makes them an important part of a healthy daily diet, so choose a maximum of 2 cups of skimmed milk or low-fat yogurt and 1 ounce of cheese a day. [*]Fats Restrict the use of fat to 3 to 4 teaspoons of margarine, butter, or oil per day. You can have low-fat salad dressings and mayonnaise in moderation. [*]drinks Drink as many calorie-free liquids per day as you wish (though not with meals). Suitable drinks are tea or coffee (black) with low-calorie sweetener, water, non-carbonated beverages containing few or no calories Some doctors have reported that carbonated beverages may contribute to enlargement of the small pouch and recommend they be avoided. Foods to Avoid Some foods deliver a concentrated supply of calories but little nutritional value. These foods should be avoided whenever possible. They include: [*] syrups cakes jam chips pastries Alcoholic drinks should also be consumed in moderation: for example, one glass of wine per day. [*]Common Problem Foods Some foods have difficulty passing through the stomach opening created by the LAP-BAND® System and may cause blockage. These include: dry meat shrimp untoasted or doughy bread rice Peanut Butter fibrous vegetables like corn, asparagus, and celery nuts greasy or fried food membrane of citrus fruits Introduce these foods slowly and individually to see if you can tolerate them. Always be careful, chew well, and follow your surgeon's or dietitian's advice.
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How do you know when you're full?
mizzzliza replied to JAnnette's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I don't have pain if I eat too much it just wants to keep trying to come back up my esophagus. Then I spend the next hour or more trying to keep it down. Really annoying. I'm still on full liquids and have been trying to actually eat something 3 times a day like cream of wheat or a soup, but really I feel better when I don't. It's like alcohol though. No real signs while I'm eating then about 10 mins after a meal WHAM it hits me. Too late by that time. -
5 months out Christmas is interesting
jennrus posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Keep nibbling and feel sick/full. Not enjoying all the food. Need to go back to regular meals. Look forward to getting back to normal. Far too many calories consumed in alcohol this past few weeks. Ugh. Lactose intolerant and no breads for me anymore. But 57 lbs down! -
2 Month Stall And Current Approaches
Fiddleman posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
This forum has been really helpful to read about the success of others and also the challenges that are discussed. I started out at 335 lb and had weight loss surgery on July 2nd. I am in my second stall at 2 months ( 3 days now). My weight is currently at 255 lb and I know the stall will eventually end. 80 lb sown so far. Yay! However, I am looking for some advice for breaking this stall. First, I would like to give some background on eating, exercising and vitamins. I have been exercising daily either walking my dog for between 2 and 4 miles, sometimes with hills. I have done some hiking a few weeks ago, but it just about sent me into the ER because of dehydration and the hike was rated hard even for athletes. I felt like almost passing out at the end ( 8 miles round trip). Part of the trail is 2000 feet in 1.2 miles and was brutal stair climbing, literally. I used to be such an avid hiker previously when I was in better shape ( also hiked most of my younger years), before gaining quite a bit of weight ( 100 lb) after losing 100 lb 5 years earlier (atkins eating and lots of cardio). I gained mostly due to life and work stresses, but before that kept it off for 5 years. I gave up on dieting because of yo-yoing and the downward effect it was having on my ability to have a stable and happy life. That is why it has been such a good decision to have the sleeve surgery. It was a little difficult the 1st week post op, but then got better. Incisions still hurt a little on occasion, but manageable. Coming back to the stall, I am looking for advice of starting weight training program. I have never enjoyed weight lifting and have always preferred cardio like elliptical and treadmill. I have never been able to "get into" lifting or even basic training because i am not sure how to get started, even though i have a ton of books. Lol! My post op food intake has been fairly rigorous. I usually eat a matrix/soy shake for breakfast ( have been mixing in a low calorie veggie powder recently - a little weird but i got used to it after a few times), a greek yogurt for 9am snack, 3 oz chicken/ salmon for lunch, matrix/ water for 3 pm snack, some protein based dinner(3oz) and 3 oz matrix/water shake for 8 pm. I do not always have the 8 pm snack. I always get in the 80+ oz protein and usually have 100+ oz water/mio/crystal light a day. On weekends, i have been trying one or two meals at my favorite places to eat such as indian, red robin or olive garden. I mainly go to spend time with my family andy everyone is supportive and even help me find suitable choices. I am also very careful to eat 3-4 oz of something very high in protein. And yes, I really do like the matrix and nectar shakes, especially cookies and creme or oreo. I do not have and trouble with eating wrong foods, being over hungry, or drinking alcohol. I just do not have the urge nor want to sabotage the successes so far. Besides i think any high sugar or high fat would just make me sick and uncomfortable. I just want to keep eating simple as i have enough other things going on in life with family and work. I have not missed a day of taking vitamins. I take multi, calc chew, c, b50, b12, omega3, d and a few others. Taking all these vitamins is starting to feel like work, but i have always taken vitamins over the last 10 years so more of the same. Finally, i do journal every day with regards to weight, energy level, sleep hours, vitamins, prescriptions, food intake, liquid intake, exercise and general notes. It is helpful to have the notes and does put me in the right mindset for the day. My biggest concern is having a gall bladder issue as i read about it so often on the posts. No issue yet, but i do feel minor acute jabs from time to time under right rib. Again no issue yet but am concerned. Sorry this is so long winded, but i am looking for some long term advice to break stalls ( hopefully with regards to weightlifting) and get some comments on my approaches so far. -
This is the stage I am at right now: What to Eat and How to Eat? There are certain rules you have to adhere to: 1. Eat frequently but do not overeat: stop once you feel full. 2. Your diet should include 3 main normal sized meals and 2 or 3 small snacks. Depending on when you go to sleep you may add a third snack in the evening if you go to bed late, otherwise limit yourself to 2 small snacks a day only. 3. Every meal or snack should include some kind of low-fat protein. 4. The snack rule requires a combination of at least 2 ingredients: some kind of low-sugary fruit (or a combination of different types of fruit) and protein (or a combination of 2-3 kinds of protein). Examples of suggested snacks you can see on the pictures below. Make sure your snack includes approximately 50% of fruit and 50% of protein. Avoid certain types of fruit high in sugar: bananas, grapes, mangoes, etc. 5. Your daily protein intake should never be less than 40 g. Recommended protein intake is from 40 g to 100 g per day. 6. You may include all kinds of vegetables as part of your main meals. Avoid fried foods like French fries, potato chips, chicken wings, etc. Give preference to healthy cooking with little oil (olive, coconut, walnut, and avocado oil). 7. Use a rule of a palm: your main meal protein should always fit in your palm. The amount of protein will differ depending on the size of every person`s palm, thus the taller you are the more protein you will consume. Add approximately 1.5 palms of vegetables to your protein. Use very little low-fat dressing. See the images below. 8. Avoid sodas, any kind of refined carbs (rice, pasta, any kind of bread), coffee, smoothies, and alcohol. Drink 64 oz. of fluids daily.
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Question: Can we have a cocktail?
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Thank you guys for all your suggestions. I had the last of my pre-op retesting today and everything is fine. :banana I'm a go on Thursday barring anything else getting in the way. Ryan I had that sandpaper and alcohol thingy today! Ouch! Turned out okay though so I guess the irritation was worth it. Three more days and counting.
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As long as your in weight loss mode your shouldnt drink. Alcohol reduces an enzime in your body required to breakdown the fat you want to lose for 3 days. That's right one drinks significantly reduces your weight loss for 3 days. In essence, slows your weight loss down to half. Personally I dont think 20 year olds have enough experience in life to handle the mental pressure of bariatric surgery. I know I would not have for exactly what your concerned about, drinking. Good luck on your journey. Also leaving your comfort zone 3 days after surgery would not be my first choice.