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Question about life after surgery
HarleyGirl replied to 21 and changing's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I do this a lot at home.....there is a pomegranite flavor that is really good mixed with vodka.... I'll just order a jack rocks when out.....takes me a while to finish it.... Like others said, you will find your tolerance for alcohol has likely changed. Test drive it at home, you don't want to be out and find out three drinks is one too many. I've cut my drinking in at least half since I was banded....just not worth the empty calories....AND I WANT TO GET TO GOAL! -
Have a question about drinking
Rachel412 replied to ybnormal143's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Alcohol? Yes, they're OK in moderation. Some (most?) surgeons advise you to avoid carbonated drinks though. And alcohol may hit you a lot harder/faster post-surgery. -
drinks? You bettya. I don't drink every night or every week, but I will go out and enjoy with my friends or husband. I usually stick with wine but also will occassionally have a beer. I did some internet searching and vodka is the lowest calorie and I will have that with club soda or have a vodka gimlet. (vodka with lime juice) Answering some questions above, sure alcohol is empty calories. Sure, you can compare it to eating Cookies but there isn't FAT in a vodka and club soda. Plus, depriving myself feels like a diet and I am not on a diet. I am changing my lifestyle and that for me means not having a drink with sugar like a Pina Colada and instead changing to vodka and club. People with WLS can't live in a bubble--we need to learn to live in our society which would occassionally mean going to a social event. It's how we maneuver though these social events that makes or breaks us. So, I say bottoms up, with limitations. (meaning I would not do that every night)
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Hello there. I have a friend who recently underwent the Gastric Sleeve surgery and I was concerned about his health and thought that this may be a good place to ask a question. My friend underwent surgery during the second week of September. He has lost around 50 lbs already and looks great. What concerns me is that he is consuming a large amount of alcohol, and has been since the 4th week after surgery. He originally told us it would take at least 5 weeks to recover from the surgery. On a night out he has been consuming over 10 vodka drinks and 5 shots of alcohol (which he sips). We try to curtail him from this but he refuses to stop. He has been drinking like this 2 to 3 times a week. Does anyone know of the complications that could arise from this type of activity? My friends and I are worried that he's going to seriously hurt himself and want to have actual information to give him about the complications. Health and happiness to the rest of you on this board.
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Do you drink with your food?
johnlatte replied to melinda48's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
This one, is a big bone of contention on this board. There's a couple of schools of thought. 1 is that alcohol should be avoided all together (empty calories, bad on the gut, goes to your head quicker), then there's a group that wants to do it (yolo, lifes a party, don't want to be the only one not having a good time etc). Personally for me, I was a big drinker. That's part of why I was almost 300 lbs. So...climbing up on an operating table and letting them cut out a perfectly good organ, changed my perspective to a large degree. For me, it was more about my ultimate goals and changing my lifestyle. That meant that some things just didn't make sense in my life. Alcohol is one of them along with fast foods, white carbs, sugar and a whole lot of other things. I'm not saying that I won't ever take a drink again, that would be foolish. But what I am saying is that until I reach the goals that I set when I started this process, I have to stand firm. I don't feel that I am missing anything, my life is full and I like sobriety quite well actually. If you do decide to drink, understand that you may feel quite uncomfortable and you might feel the effects of the alcohol quite a bit faster than you might have otherwise. Just make the choice that you feel that you can best live with and go! -
I'm not a big drinker but the beverage I do drink has 65grams of carbs. My question is,is it safe to drink when I have the band? (Keep in mind I only drink one a week)
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Maybe I'm an alcoholic?
Babbs replied to likeamazing's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
From what you're saying, I personally think you're going through the normal grieving process like we all do with food, except you're doing it with alcohol. I don't think you sound like an alcoholic at all. Keep in mind, just like when we advise people about having "food funerals", you will be able to enjoy your wine in moderation down the road again, so don't think you won't. Get to your goal weight and implement your enjoyment of wine as part of your maintenance plan. In moderation, of course. If you feel you want to get it out of your system, by all means postpone the surgery until you feel you're ready to make the life changes needed for this surgery to be successful. -
Maybe I'm an alcoholic?
MeMe8264 replied to likeamazing's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm with Babbs. You don't seem like an alcoholic to me at all. You are a person who loves the taste of wine. I am a person who loves the taste of beer. I, too, had misgivings about giving up my tasty beer. So, I waited until after my Cancun vacation and had a goodbye beer celebration. Now, I'm on day three of my pre-op diet and I'm ok with not having a drop of beer for the next eight weeks. Afterwards, of course, will be only able to handle a little bit. But mostly I've made up my mind to give it up along with all of the other tastes (food) that I need to give up to lose weight and get healthy. All in all, my advice is to wait until you're ready to say goodbye to wine. If that means waiting until afterNew Year's Eve, then so be it. You do what is right for you. It's your choice. -
Is alcohol allowed? I just started my liquid diet today & forgot to ask that question.
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I think it is hard for anyone to give an objective answer on this because most people haven't had both. Those who have will have been revising from another surgery so that will skew their opinion as well. Some things to consider. Sleeve Is a restrictive only procedure, apparently there is a quite high risk of reflux,it cannot be reversed but it is possible to revise to a DS bypass. Bypass Is restrictive and malabsorptive, risk of reflux seems to be very low, certain foods e.g alcohol and sugar may cause dumping. It can be reversed if necessary but this is complicated.
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Hello everyone! Now that I am officially sleeved, I have some concerns that I would like to share and seek advice. I know a few people ( my sister included) who, after WLS, began a downward spiral of making bad decisions. They turned their food addictions to alcohol. They began to party excessively. Their personality changed for the worse. They have basically become just different people ( for the worse). I am so worried about "smelling" myself a little too much and will begin to act differently. I have been small before. I have been on the party scene before and I am hoping that that is out of my system and I won't feel the need to reclaim my youth. But I guess my question is, have any of you been told that you have changed ( for the worse) or know someone who has after WLS? Is this a concern I am just making up in my head?
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This is most definitely a thing and you are right to be aware/concerned about the possibility. Especially if you have had any kind of "issue" or blip specifically in your own past. I also like the idea of avoiding alcohol (etc) altogether after surgery if you have any inkling that it could be a problem for you. Good luck to you!!
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Question: Can we have a cocktail?
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Control of eating habits before lap-band
bajagal101 posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am waiting for my insurance to OK my lap-band surgery. But in the mean time i am eating like i always have,its like i know i will never be able to have these foods again. And i guess maybe i will feel deprived and have mad cravings? why do i do this knowing i need to change? I feel like i want to eat everything ,i guess like a alcoholic having his last drink before going in to rehab. I just hope that i can get over these feelings and have better control of my eating. Maybe i will have to change or die. ...feeling out of control pre op surgery in November 2014 -
Alcohol (drinks) consumption after sleeve.
Miaoreo replied to carolinda2815's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi Carolinda, There is another whole thread about this titled 'Alcohol intake'. There seem to be 3 schools of thought on the subject. In a nutshell... A. The Carrie Nation school of thought. "Do not let alcohol pass your lips, least you become a drunken alchoholic!" B. The Play it Safe school... "I will do what my Doctor says to do." C. The Your'e Ok, I'm Ok school..... Which I subscribe to, wherin, an occasional drink isn't going to hurt me and moderation is the key. You chose... remembering that alchohol is empty calories and can lead to poor food choices. But only YOU know your own body and weakness's, so if you can go out and have a good time and have a drink and not overindulge in chili cheese fries, please do so. I certainly would! -
Water vs Fluids?
Bufflehead replied to LowBMISleever's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Any kind of fluid is fine. Even coffee and beer (not that I am recommending either!) will keep you hydrated. http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/06/30/milk-and-other-surprising-ways-to-stay-hydrated/ Reporting on a scientific study of the hydrating effects of many different beverages: "drinks containing moderate amounts of caffeine and alcohol or high levels of sugar had hydration indexes no different from water. In other words, coffee and beer are not dehydrating, despite common beliefs to the contrary." -
EGD on Thu confirmed a partial slip. Verbal diagnosises before that was profound slip. Profound was based on the angle of the band viewable with xray, and partial on the actual prolapse that was visible internally. I'm still really swollen, but it's getting better. Thu & Fri night my reflux was back. Haven't had it since my unfill, but since swelling basically gives you a reverse fill, it makes sense that it would strike again. Aspirated it again, and dealth with chest pain for an hour afterward. Haven't done solid foods since Wed of last week, they're too uncomfortable. Frozen liquids (e.g. alcohol free margarita, slush from Sonic, etc.) go down OK after a few sips. That seems to control the swelling enough that I'm good for super mushies or other liquids for an hour or so, then I clench back down. I'd take some ibuprofen to help, but there's no way even the liquid would pass. Reflux is gone at least, so it is slowly calming down. It never occured to me that there would be that much irritation during an EGD. I just didn't even think about it. On the plus side, going through this stuff again is really helping me be over it.
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I feel for you, that is really sad. I wish I had some good ideas for you. When I'm stressed I try to do something nice for myself, but I'm not sure that's what you need right nowq given you have such a sad situation to deal with. When I fall off the wagon in situations like you describe it usually involved copious amounts of alcohol and sugar, then it is out of my system. Not recommending that - just sharing.
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I suffered with gout prior to having surgery. I was on Indomethecin for arthritis and it never really helped with the gout. I had to go off of it in July of last year (one month prior to 8/5 surgery) and haven't taken it since. Luckily, I haven't had a bout of gout in over 2 years now, but it is probably the most painful thing I went through. I had it at the same time that I had a stress fracture in the same foot. needless to say, the boot I had to wear for the fracture was hell on the gout pain! I have been cautious about red meat. I still eat too much, but I was told that played into the gout a lot. Also, if you drink alcohol, that will increase your chances of a gout attack. My podiatrist calls it "vacation gout", as many peopel drink on vacation and come back with it. Good luck and hopefully we won't experience it again !!!!
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Guilty ! Lol that's me, just trying to get as much information as possible as I think of things. It's really not that big of a deal for me, I'm 99% of the time the DD and prefer to drink water because of the high calorie content of alcohol and it always puts me up a couple of pounds. The only time I would actually miss it would be on a vacation.
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Eating disorders prior to bariatric surgery
lizonaplane replied to kalassi's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I have bipolar disorder and some history of eating issues but only for brief periods of time (maybe 15 incidences of vomiting and a few months of restrictive eating). I can't think of anyone who hasn't yo-yo dieted: I have once lost 50 lbs and another time lost 100, but gained it back. I'm not sure what you mean by "hiding extra food from others". I have no history of addiction, but I know that can be a concern for WLS because cross addition especially alcoholism is a problem after WLS. For me, the weight center (also a major academic medical center) is requiring that my psychiatrist speak to their psychologist and clear me for surgery. Did you see the bariatric psychologist? -
I searched the forums and only saw threads about constipation. I am guessing my recent vacation had caused me some problems because I replaced Water with soda/alcohol and Fiber with sugar in a splurge. I haven't gained weight but definitely messed up the digestion pipes. Due to the lack of bathroom visits and the strain I have developed a very painful, large, external hemmorhoid. PrepH makes it feel better but I have had it for about 2 weeks and it is not shrinking . I am to the point that I do not want to use the restroom because it hurts. Any other home remedies I can try as I do not want to visit the doctor for this issue if I do not have too? Or is this still within the normal timeframe for the ailment to heal on its own.
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I wouldn't do it just for a trip. But, if you think you are too tight in general, then that's different. With my last fill, I've gone back and forth between being too tight and too loose. I think I'm finally ready for another fill, though, cause I've been more hungry than not for the past couple weeks. For me, its taken awhile to get good restriction so I guess that's why its not tempting at all to unfill just for a trip or occasion. Its taken so long to get this band really working for me and I just don't want to give that up and have to start over just so I can eat more for a trip. And, I did actually get too tight during my trip to Vegas a couple weekends ago. I probably did it to myself due to dehydration (drinking more alcohol than normal which is a diuretic). I ended up hardly being able to eat during the trip, but it didn't really bother me much. When I am too tight, the good thing is that I'm also not hungry. So, it doesn't phase me if everyone around me is eating. I even went to the Paris Buffet w/all my friends and used my lapband card for the first time so they would only charge me the child's price. Trust me, nobody really even notices what YOU are eating when they are going back over and over and over for more heaping plates of food. LOL I should also add, for my Vegas trip, I brought a bunch of Protein shots w/me and was so thankful I had them. It made it so much easier to just be able to eat whatever sounded good or that I knew would go down easy and then supplement w/the protein shots between meals.
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And no it is not necessary to unfill before a flight. If you are newly banded with little fill then the air in the band may expand. If you have fill the saline itself can't expand. My Dr also told me that if a problem occurs when you fly which it shouldn't then you will be fine once you touch the ground again. I had a marathon trip in Dec/Jan( 3 flights total 24 hours travelling each way) and there were no problems whatsoever. Staying hydrated is important and yes that means Water not alcohol.
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Psychological Issues
4ALongerLife replied to Sansa's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Cleo you asked about emotions after surgery....... I think the dr.'s make sure that you won't have other addictions. There are many articles about transfer addictions or crossover addictions. Gambling, sex, shopping, alcohol and even drugs, you name it. But for most overweight ppl, we've used food as a comfort, as a solace... it's maladaptive. I personally believe it's also as you've heard ppl say "alcoholism is a disease" - the only difference b/w us and them is that our 'drug of choice' is food. The maladaptive coping mechanisms we've used for years have to be changed. It took years to establish them, it's going to take time to address them. Further complicating matters is that immediately after surgery you have NO appetite. It slowly comes back, and some ppl have lost a lot of weight in a very short time period. Hormonally, your body hasn't figured out all of the weight it's lost. And you know how emotional women are specifically (ladies don't take my women's club card for saying it)... but imagine an overwhelming amount of estrogen flowing through your body AND now you no longer have the way that you coped. It is a hard time to go through. But I can say, been there, done that and this too shall pass. WLS of any kind is NOT a "magic wand." It's a lot of work after the sacrifice of putting your body through this ordeal, then it's work on your head and behaviors for life in order to be successful. In all honesty, the way you worded your questions Cleo, I'm wondering if you're researching a paper or an article....but good questions nonetheless. Success wished to you all!
