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Doubting Whether I Should Proceed
djhobbes replied to djhobbes's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Thank you for taking the time to read my post and offer a thoughtful response. This is an excellent question/point you raise. I am certain I don't have the market cornered on the yo-yo effect of gaining weight and my attempts to lose weight in the past. At the end of the day, I am where I am with my medical team and my decision for surgery because everything I have done in the past has failed. -
Doctors in Mexico who perform on lower BMI?
Ninabnina77 replied to ESGSkinnyLegend's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
Ummmm, bmi of 25 is normal weight. I don't think anyone in the world would perform bariatric surgery on a bmi of 25. Sent from my SM-N950U using BariatricPal mobile app -
Thank you so much for the reply. I got the sleeve back in june 2019, I never felt real restriction, for the past 3 yrs I have been thinking its all in my head. I got an endoscopy done last week to find out I have a small hiatal hernia and my sleeve is " the body of my stomach is markedly enlarged". After I got these results back, it all made sense, my sleeve was not tight enough from the get go. I have mild gerd. Will my mild gerd and small hiatal hernia disqualify me for a resleeve? I was never able to reach goal weight the first time around and I have gained 17 lbs since reaching my lowest weight after the sleeve. I am 3 yrs out now. How much did you resleeve cost and who was your surgeon at mexicali? When did you get the sleeve reconstruction? Sent from my SM-N950U using BariatricPal mobile app
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Doubting Whether I Should Proceed
LilaNicole20 replied to djhobbes's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
That preop diet concept has come in handy for dealing with stalls. Keep that in your toolbox as an example of what you’re capable of down the road, after surgery. As everyone else has said, that kind of weight loss without this tool of wls is not exactly sustainable. I have been on full liquid diet since last Sunday and dropped 7lbs out of my stall, so far. People like to insert their opinions on what you should or shouldn’t do and what is or isn’t the best way to manage your success, but ultimately, it’s up to you. Good luck! -
Doubting Whether I Should Proceed
catwoman7 replied to djhobbes's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
they say that fewer than 5% of obese people are successful in keeping off lost weight. I, unfortunately, was not one of those people. I spent decades losing weight, only to gain it all back. Surgery was the only thing that allowed me to lose my excess weight (I lost over 200 lbs) and keep most of it off. no one can tell you whether or not you can do this on your own - but I agree with the others. A pre-op style diet is not sustainable long term. I would do this surgery again in a heartbeat. The first few weeks can be trying, but I have zero regrets (other than I should have done it years ago). It was the best decision I ever made. -
Doubting Whether I Should Proceed
Smanky replied to djhobbes's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It's worth keeping in mind that the pre-op diet isn't a sustainable diet - it's a medically approved short term starvation diet designed to shrink the liver for a safer surgery. A lot of nervous folks after losing some decent weight in the pre-op phase then question whether they need the surgery. Do you think you can sustain the lifestyle change without the surgery tool to continue losing? This is something only you can honestly answer. Why is your relative vehemently against it? What are the reasons? I'm yet to hear of a partner or relative with reservations who isn't simply misinformed or flat-out wrong and/or driven by other emotional reasons. The surgery these days is very safe. This isn't to sway you either way, only you can make that call, but have all the facts and honest truths before you before you make the choice. -
Doubting Whether I Should Proceed
Hop_Scotch replied to djhobbes's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
What you achieve in pre-op is rarely sustainable in the long term without surgery, even with surgery, that much weight loss in that amount of time is only achieved by some those with very high weights...well over 400 or 500lbs. Only you can decide if you go ahead with surgery or not based on your personal circumstances. That said, I would always recommend questioning why those who are close who are against surgery as to their reasons. Its your health, its your body, its been your struggle (all those times you've attempted to lose weight and maintain the loss), etc etc. I didn't lose a lot of weight pre-op, I've lost more on other occasions, but I've never been able to sustain the weight loss or maintain without the surgery I eventually had. A question to you, without the pre-op diet you wouldn't have achieved the weight loss, but what have you done in the mean to make sure you can maintain it? What caused you to become overweight? What have you done or will you do to overcome what caused you to become overweight? This equally applies to having surgery or not? Being nervous or having seconds is quite common in the days and weeks leading to surgery, it may be useful for you to work out those feelings with a counsellor or therapist. You may decide to put your surgey on hold, you may not. -
Hi. This is my first post, though I have been lurking in the shadows for a few weeks now. I am scheduled for my VSG this Wednesday the 3rd of August. I started by pre-op diet on the 20th of July. The first few days - maybe even out to the first week of my pre-op diet were tough. I was constantly starving, especially at first. But, I stuck with it, haven't cheated, and am honestly less hungry in general now, though I still get a craving here and there. I have lost 20 pounds so far on my pre-op diet. I am now starting to have some serious doubts about proceeding with the surgery. I have lost more weight than I though I would pre-op. In fact, I am under my pre-op goal weight considerably. I am already starting to feel better physically, I am seeing drastic improvement in glucose readings, and despite the seriously reduced intake, I am more energetic. Also contributing to my doubt is a very close family member that is vehemently against my choice to have the surgery. I value their thoughts and input, and all of the factors have planted a significant seed of doubt in my mind. I worry that down the line I will be faced with a serious dose of regret. Has anyone else experienced similar situations? How did you proceed? Regrets either way?
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Question on hair loss
Arabesque replied to Candigrl1's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Your new hair will be growing but you just can’t see or notice it but then you usually don’t notice new hair growth anyway. Hair grows slowly (only quarter to half an inch a month) but one day you’ll notice little fluffy fly away hair that will be two or so inches long. Oh yeah I agree. I’ll take a little hair loss for a big weight loss too. Wish my hair grew back at least wavy. I spend ages putting kinks & waves in my hair. I did get some kinks (on the back half of my head) when I was peri menopausal but that didn’t last ☹️☹️. -
Hi DreamBelieveAchieve How are you doing? I was resleeve for the same reason. I had xray from the first time to prove that they did not take out the top of the stomach. I am losing so slow thus time. I am 11 weeks. I am exercising daily so I do think I gained muscle. I think I need to pick up cardio. I am swimming and riding my bike but I have slowly gain strength to ride futher. My shortness of breath has dismissed since I am exercising daily. My BP is in normal limits. I have lost more inches than weight. I still have issues with carbs. I don't eat pasta, bread, rice ect. I do like oatmeal or cream of wheat. I don't get very hungry now. Having issues getting my fluids in but my protein is around 60 to 80 daily. Any suggestions to increase weight loss.
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Hi Nina I had a revision or reconstruction for the same reason as dream believe. I went to Mexicali MX to a hospital. Mexicali Bariatrics did the reconstruction. It's been a slow process and I am 11 weeks. I feel very satisfied with limited food. I am exercising a lot more this time. I have more energy. I had to have a barium swallow and I had xray from the first sleeve. He told me it was not my fault for the weight regain. The did a barium swallow after revision checking for leaks and to show me the difference in the restriction. I lost 60lbs really fast the first time. I gained 25lbs over 6 years. I have lost 26lbs so far. The first time I lost a lb a day the first month. If your not happy get the second opinion.
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Every doctor is different but my post-op plan was clear liquids Day 1-3, liquid diet 4-14, and then pureed foods Day 15-35, and after Day 35 and on is solid foods. It's important to clear it with your doctor since post-op diet is critical to safety (vs losing weight)
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Band to Bypass Surgery coming up...SCARED
CDMC1972 replied to MaryRN66's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Hello! I am in the process of converting from a band to another type of WLS. I got the band in June 2009, and had it removed in June 2021, due to complications with acid reflux. I met with my surgeon in May of this year to discuss a revision. Due to the issues with the band, he doesn't recommend the sleeve, but the bypass. I am nervous about the re-routing and the fact that I am almost 50. My current weight is 250 lbs. Would you be able to share some of your experiences/challenges before, during and after the revision surgery? I have completed most of my clearances and will meet with the surgeon on September 1st--I think during that visit we will discuss my surgery date and the type of surgery. I appreciate any insight you can provide. Thank you! -
I’m scheduled for August 18, and I’m the same weight and height as you!!! Would love to have a buddy!!!
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Wow! 8 lbs! I’ve actually gained 2 lbs 🙄 and I’m not sure why considering I’m following instructions for my pre-op! Very frustrating! Maybe my body is just fighting to hold on to weight since I feel like I’m starving. I still hate drinking Protein Shakes and eating yogurt since I don’t know how I’m supposed to lose weight doing that. 🤷🏼♀️ If they would just let me eat natural, non-processed, non-artificially sweetened Proteins like egg whites, chicken, ham, etc.. then I know my weight would begin to drop some. Maybe I’ll just call my dietitian on Monday….
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Doctors in Mexico who perform on lower BMI?
liveaboard15 replied to ESGSkinnyLegend's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
curious. Why do a weight loss surgery with such a low BMI? 25 is considered basically normal or just slightly overweight. What is your current weight and height? or is there another reason for wanting this surgery? -
Surgery Date 7/27/22, New Life in Progress!
SurfingMama posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hey Y'all! Brand new to Bariatric Pal, and three days post op! I am already down 30.3 pounds since starting the pre op diet, which is super encouraging! Yesterday was probably the hardest pain wise after waking up in terrible pain, on top of acid reflux from hell! Thankfully, got on some antacids prescribed by doctor, and the pain meds helped with the pain immensely! Most of my pain isn't actually from my stomach, but from my biggest incision by my liver. Also trying to stay hydrated, which has been so much harder than I ever thought! So, I actually got the VSG for two completely different reasons. The first is the obvious, to lose weight and get back to a healthier lifestyle! The second... three weeks ago, I was told that I have precancerous and cancerous cells in my stomach. After talking through all of my options with my gastro doctor, my best move was to get the VSG as the cancer cells would be completely eradicated as they were in the portion of my stomach getting removed. Honestly, I had already been researching VSG anyways, so this was kinda a no brainer for me, two for one! This did move up my surgery date from mid September to this past Wednesday, and I am honestly completely okay with that! I didn't want to go through any sort of chemo or radiation, so time was a bit of the essence. Anyone else get/is going to get the VSG for medical reasons beyond weightloss/morbid obesity? HW: 293 SW(before pre op diet): 289.4 CW: 259.1 -
Whats your ethnicity? I am Lao, but was born here in the US. Both of my families were like that but not to the extent of telling me to die. Till this day they still call me "Fatty" Pig" in Lao and it hurts me....I remember when I was a teenager my aunt's son stood next to me while taking pictures and said "SCOOT OVER YOU'RE SO FAT YOU TAKE UP THE WHOLE PICTURE." My uncle also insults me..."you shouldn't be eating that much" It was literally a cup of homemade noodles with broth and little does he know I throw up from eating over a cup. After that I packed on more weight from being emotional. I am the only plus size in my immediate family. Both of my siblings were on the thin side...
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My mother's family was like this, they valued my younger sister as she was thin, whereas my older sister and I have always been overweight. They complimented on how great I looked when my daughter was born because I lost 50 pounds while pregnant. I had hyperemisis gravidarum my entire pregnancy and couldn't keep anything down. Who would want to go through that misery, but they thought it had a great result of a 50 pound weight loss. I decided to break those chains and walked away from that side of the family, with exception of my mom. I had to protect my daughter from their behavior. No regrets and no looking back. I'm sorry that there is no way of helping your mother out, but do take care of yourself.
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First, I'd like to thank everybody for being so supportive. I felt like I was breaking down last night. To answer@smanky my mom doesn't have anyone left on her side either. I mean, China is a pretty toxic place when it comes to weight discrimination. It's pretty common to be beat, and it happens on both sides of the family. I don't really go back anymore, because of it. She has 1 friend who she relies on, but that friend is also quite stuck because she successfully divorced her husband, but wasn't able to have a male child, so she was disowned from her family. It's super toxic all around. She isn't willing to come to the US because she can't speak English, and she isn't willing to leave her friend. I'm glad she has someone, but I feel so bad for her. My father joins in on all the battery. I, naively enough, thought physical abuse for ones weight was normal as a child. It wasn't until I entered college that I realized it isn't as common as I thought it was, but it still happens here (bullying). I'm still completely heartbroken by the situation, but I really appreciate everyone's support. [emoji3059] Sent from my M2007J3SY using BariatricPal mobile app
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Question on hair loss
Spinoza replied to Candigrl1's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Mine took until about 5 months to start and was/still is markedly increased general shedding. I think it's just about tailing off now at 8 months. I've had worse before when doing VLCDs - that seemed to be much heavier but not last as long. No actual patches but definitely visible thinning, e.g. at the temples. No regrowth as yet but fingers crossed that will come now, or at least when I hit maintenance! Good luck, hope yours isn't too problematic for you - definitely not my favourite side effect of the surgery. Well actually weight loss is my favourite side effect, so I'll take a bit of hair loss to get that! -
Hi Mel, I have read your post a couple of times and although I don't have experience to share, because I'm still in my initial weight loss phase, I wanted to thank you for telling us how you are - It's really helpful to read about how people do in the long term. You're right - 15lbs doesn't sound a lot at all because I presume you lost a stack of weight in 2016, but I totally get that you're not happy with that - I don't think I would be. The best thing is that not only have you called it at this point, you've come here where you will get loads of support and people with the same experience to help you! AND you've identified that it's your life stresses that are triggering it, so that's the first step to getting it sorted. I've seen people here who regained and who did various things to try to lose again. Would it be possible to get some help with your life issues first because then the eating might be easier to tackle, rather than being another issue to beat yourself up about? Then could you go right back to your post-op diet for a while? Empty the house of all those 'punishment' foods and fill it up with protein-based snacks. I absolutely love deli meats - chicken or turkey or pastrami slices that are easy to grab when you're grazing, tins of tuna you can make into a salad really quickly and that will fill you up nice and quickly. High protein yoghurt, etc. Start drinking more water if that has slipped. Finally it sounds like you really need to find another gym - could you do that? Or as the others say, a home exercise regime? That has a double benefit in that it should lift your mood a bit too. Do you have family or friends who you can talk to and who can support you? I don't mean nag, only you can decide it's time to switch things around again, but just to be there for you as you do it? I know when you aren't feeling good it can seem impossible to change things, and it's easy for some random stranger on the internet to try to fix things 'for you'. It's not like that here though - people will all identify with your current position, lots have been there and lots of us will be in the future. It would be brilliant if you could let us know how you do. Maybe do just one thing differently this week and see how that goes. All the very very best. 15lbs will be hard but it's totally doable isn't it? Your sleeve is still there and it will help you. So will we. xx
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I'm pre surgery right now, and I've been trying so hard to lose weight... Well, my aunt told me to die today... She said I was so fat that I have no value as a human because of my weight. She shouted at me that fat people deserve to die. So, I'm Asian, and I weigh 220lbs 5'2", where the average weight her family is is around 80lbs, and underweight. She's very proud of it. She says she's cursing for me to die an early death. Because fat people are ugly and I'm not worth anything more than my weight, and I have no value had a human. I used to think that about myself because of how toxic she made my life, I started more self improvement and better thinking to accept myself. But I'm getting so tired of the "Why can't you just be anorexic? You should just stop eating entirely. I fasted my children for a month and look how well they turned out." ... One was hospitalized because she was 5'7" and reached 75 lbs... I'm trying so hard to not let it get to me, because her daughter look terrible off, and I feel bad for them. But the cherry on top is this: I was very sad, because they slap my mom because she's overweight too... I know part of my problem is hormonal that I got from her. It's ok to insult me, because I can get past it. But my father's side of the family physically abuses my because of her weight. It was ok when it was only me being beat, slapped, kicked, and punched, but my mother is getting along in age. And she can't get away, because it's so hard to get a divorce in China. I'm at least here in the US. I'm so heartbroken. Why are we only worth nothing more than our weight? Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
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Another not losing post
Arabesque replied to mrsjo's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Or is it just a stall? You can many of those while you are losing. A stall is just your body taking a break to readjust to all the changes: diet, weight loss, activity. Glad you’ve reached out to your team. They’ll be best placed to advise if you do need a tweak to your eating plan especially if you are following a more intensive exercise program. And they will be able to advise what specific foods (not just a blanket ‘add carbs’) are best to add to your diet. Congratulations are your progress so far. -
Welcome back! It's always good to see WLS veterans here because most people drift away after the first few months. I saw a WLS YouTuber who made a video about regaining some weight; I think it was about 50 pounds over the course of 4 years. She pointed out that this sounds like a lot, but it's only about 1 pound per month, which you wouldn't even notice from one month to the next. It's a little scary to see how easy it is to regain what you worked so hard to lose. Have you tried working out at home? I'm not, never have been, and never will be, one to go to a gym to work out. I do cardio every day at home with Leslie Sansone videos (free on YouTube), and strength training with a $50 set of resistance bands. As for the self-hate food... Are there any foods you enjoy eating that are not self-destructive? Maybe this is stupid, but perhaps if you get back to eating foods that are pleasurable to eat but don't make you feel terrible, you'll stop wanting those punishment foods.
