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Re read the whole thread, that is discussed up thread. Many people count net carbs, as in take the total carbs (my Quest bar wrapper here says 26) subtract the fiber grams as they are "good carbs" (my wrapper says 17) and some subtract the sugar alcohol grams as well because of how they are digested (wrapper says 6g erythritol). So 26-17 = 9 net carbs Or 26-17-6 = 3 net carbs As someone else said unthread her nutritionist doesn't agree with that. Mine does. You need to find out your doctor or nutritionist recommendations on that or if you don't have that option do your own research and form an educated opinion. Oh ok. Thanks so much for explaining. I was scared of getting attacked by people thinking I was being judge-y. Lol. The only way to learn is by asking and I knew nothing of the net carb concept. I'll definitely ask my medical peeps! Thanks again!
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One problem with doing coke is you don’t know what it’s cut with, and that could also make you sick. I’m not a prude or even anti-recreational drugs in particular, but with this surgery I think an occasional drink if you’re not an alcoholic or an occasional toke, if it’s legal where you live and doesn’t make you ravenous are pretty much the reasonably safe options. I now get drunk from one drink, so be very careful driving.
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Yep! Still drink it too, with few repercussions. Sometimes reds give me reflux but whites are almost always okay. As for it making me gain, I tried my first drink a few months in while I was still losing, but was also still tracking religiously. When I chose to indulge, I worked it onto my day and lost fine. I also had developed a regular exercise routine burning 400-500 calories 5x per week which helps my metabolism and gives me leeway for the occasional "indiscretion". Now 2 years out, I don't track anymore, but if I gain a few pounds, alcohol and other "treats" are the first to go until it comes off.
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Me personally, I like not having coffee (or alcohol) any more. I even tried a little of both and don't see any reason to bother.
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I know this is going to be WILDLY popular... ;)
Elode replied to Elode's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Finally home! Things I've learned today 1) My staff love me a bit too much, if they could kill me with sugar I would be dead. 2) I'm almost positive one of them is on here spying on me, they secretly knew I was going to be on liquids so they spoke with my mother and made a list of all the things I love and brought them to me as "gifts". 3) Now that I've thought about it number 1 should be changed to they HATE me! 4) Drinking 32 oz's of water on the two hour drive to work was a big mistake....huge! Unless I want to get up 30 mins earlier to make up for all the "pit stops" along the way that just can't happen again. 5) freaking out on the HWY and cussing at the poor Honda Civic in front of me at 3am because I really need to "go" due to # 4 is neither cute or appropriate. I even flipped my badge around "just in case" they could read my lips or even see me in the dark. God was cringing, I could feel it. 6) I OBVIOUSLY didn't make it clear to my husband that I don't want to see, smell or hear about food. (Thank you Jesus for still loving a foul mouth) Oh but he gets it now. 7) Hiding the kids Halloween candy is a traumatic experience for a 6 year old. His life pretty much flashed before his eyes when it was "missing". 8) Teach said 6 year old to make his own PB sandwich, nobody needs to smell that nonsense! 9) Always have a alcoholic beverage on hand for the poor neglected, harassed husband so he can deal with my "crazy" (liquid diet) because "Sprite alone will end us up in divorce court". 10) I'm stronger than I though! Everyone else may be feeling the pain but I'm happy as can be over here! I don't know what their problem is? I haven't killed anyone yet so I would suggest they all just stop being so horrible to me!!!! I'm winning today! NOT ONE CHEAT!!!! Now on to this H2oooooooo! -
Coke is like this, you will feel fantastic for like an hour and then you have to do more, I was starting to use coke in addition to my drinking when I finally hit bottom and got sober. I am an alcoholic to the core, so I simply have to abstain from drinking. Having said that, I am an addict too and cannot use any form of drug or I will abuse it even something as simple as Benadryl. I will abuse anything that makes me feel good, hence my food addiction. I am a food addict and that is what led me to getting up to 440 pounds. Food was the only thing I had left to abuse. I was 9 years sober when I got sleeved and 3 months after getting sleeved I relapsed and almost died. Like literally almost died, my wife had to call 911 and I had to be taken to the ER. Why did this happen? I didn’t protect my sobriety and once I couldn’t abuse food anymore my alcoholism and drug addiction came back with a vengeance. I am sober today by the grace of God and very fortunate I did not die the night I relapsed.
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Thank u... yes I'm in the UK and our social lives can be dependent on drugs and alcohol. Tbh it's put me off both now
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I Have No Motivation That Pushes Me
NewLife'sGr8 replied to RiskyGirl21's topic in Fitness & Exercise
I'm certainly benefitting from all the suggestions & timely reminders of what I already knew but haven't been applying. For me, lack of motivation is due to LIFE- thumping me down- hard, over & over. Hard life-stuff, like yesterday, just as I opened my car door upon arrival at work, a huge black truck flying by fast & close, drove way inside the parking line & smashed / folded/ shoved up the driver door into the front end, & nearly took off my leg. I'd just started to maneuver my leg out of the car. Thankfully, I wasnt hurt. I'm trying to keep my focus on that! Not easy. He must've been texting or cell-talking to go that far over the parking line to hit my door- which wouldn't open nor close after that. This, just a couple/few wks after someone at work put rubbing alcohol in my Water bottle while I was on break at work- which made me vomit blood for several days, then sporadically, now occasionally. Still trying to manage the inflammation from that. Life's a real BITCH sometimes! It's like I've been in a black-hole, a never-ending looong cycle of BS-pummeling- keeps putting me down- on the couch. I get my energy back- then BAM! Something else. Big stuff. I really need to go do a hyawaska negative energy-cleansing to finally disperse this black cloud that's been following me around for way too long. Next band appt, I get to consult with my actual surgeon for the 1st time since my survey 5yrs ago. (they use PA's for fills, unfills etc after surgery), I'll get some tests to see what the damage was/is. Hopefully the doc can help me fix this. I'm going to ask her about hyawaska. It's common for most people to purge repeatedly following consumption Sometimes, ok frequently, it's all I can do to get my chit together and go to work- an extremely toxic work environment filled with unbelievably toxic people. Getting up to do the "happy-happy-joy-joy" dance to tunes is the last thing i feel like doing right now. BUT I know once I do, I'll feel 'lighter', my spirits & mental energy will lift UP! Way up. Sometimes what I know, is hard to apply. Real hard. I'm working on it. Thanks to everyone for posting so many fabulous ideas & methodologies that are truly helping me pick myself up again. <3 I'm following this thread closely -
April sleevers!?
Cass Elliot replied to Simplyrosie's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Your dinner sounds so delicious! Isn't it great to love food and really get to taste it and appreciate it and not overdo it? It;s such a different relationship to it than before! I have thought about how many times I would have binged or drank too much wine because I was upset about something but its great not to be able to and then it makes you realize that you food and alcohol never helped with the problems anyway. But it took this surgery to find that out I'm glad your big butt was sticking out in the garden and you just didnt care! Because all kinds of things are opening up for us and we are becoming more free! I can walk without terrible pain so now I feel able to go places instead of stay home and cry all the time. /GO GIRL YOU GO GIRL YOU GO SLEEVE QUEEN OF 04/24!! -
help! wedding! alcohol!
scorpio2479 replied to njgrl22's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
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My experience with marijuana and the munchies...
Kindle replied to marfar7's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Thanks for the info! Since I'm not drinking beer anymore a friend suggested I smoke pot to make up for my lost alcohol buzz. Well, I've smoked in the past and KNOW it just makes me want to eat and then go to sleep. I didn't think the munchies and sleeve would go together very well so I did not take her advice. Thanks for the affirmation that I made the right decision! LOL. -
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NikiG replied to crstalww's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I got sugar free vanilla pudding & it only has 5 grams of alcohol sugar. The chocolate & other flavored have more. Sent from my iPhone using RNYTalk -
I don't think there is enough alcohol in the world to make me ready to see plain's, um, toys. Nope. Now, the pink wig and cone bra? I am so there!:thumbup:
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Next weekend I have an annual girls weekend at the lake. Yes, this includes alcoholic beverages. Maybe a few. Before surgery the only thing I drank was beer. Has anyone had beer post surgery? I'm afraid of the carbonation. Any other beverage options? I'm not a wine drinker.
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Keeping It A Secret
BandedBettyBoop replied to 4sweeties's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I just told my parents last night. I'm 28. I think they were in shock because they didn't ask nearly as many questions as I had anticipated. Maybe it was my delivery? "Oh, yeah, I'm getting a lapband" Very nonchalant. My mom's response was "no you're not! You know you can't drink alcohol with those things?" #classic -
I haven't tried it but would like too....I've heard alcohol has more kick post surgery, ie dumps into the bowel quicker and is more quickly absorbed? Any truth to this rumor....?*
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My husband no longer wants to have sex with me. TMI ALERT!!
Cangel76 replied to nameunknown's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I think you both need help. It sounds to me like this marriage has perhaps been desolving for a while. Here is something I want you to think about.... I am the child of a mother who had just one or two glasses of wine a night. If you are to the point of falling down drunk, that is an alcoholic. If you can not live with alcohol and you are refusing to quit because you like it too much, you are on your way to becoming an alcoholic. I think you personally need to evaluate your personal issues. I think your husband needs to evaluate his personal issues. Heck we all have them, we all need to grow up. Compromise and learning each other. Wasn't he a smart ass before this point? Is this new? If my husband did that I would laugh. Thing is I sometimes take things too seriously and he tries to remind me that life isn't that serious. To have fun with it. Your marriage is in trouble it has nothing to do with the weight loss. -
I share the same experience. I am in Egypt, and my Doctor's main recommendations were to watch out for Sweets, chips, Nuts, Alcohol and high sugar/fat drinks. Only use them as rewards once in 1-2 weeks IF you're losing weight. He said other than as you get tighter you'll eat less and you'll lose weight. If i were able to do the low carb diet or Atkins, then I wouldn't have needed to get banded in the first place! I have observed thin people and how they eat for a while now. I live with one, my sister. She eats everything - it's all about portion control. She has no cravings like I do. Whatever she wants, she eats. But all with the right quantities. And that's exactly what the Doctor told me - i've tried dieting for years, i am sick of it. I want to eat everything - the good, the bad, the horrible - but be happy with just a little bit of it.
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My weight has gone up about 5lbs too. Last night I was out and my feet and legs were visibly swollen so I think I am retaining a lot of water for some reason. At this point I'm just waiting for my fill and I'll see what happens then. Right now, I'm very afraid that I am on just another diet and it's not going well. I'm eating much less than I used to eat plus I'm not drinking any alcohol or diet soda or chips or any of that other stuff so I think I should be dropping a ton just from that. I'm gonna chill for now but after next month if this mess keeps going on I'm officially pissed.
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August Rush in bandland!
msdeevee replied to AmberK's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You are not alone Khloe. A lot of us are struggling. I have done Ok but I am disappointed and depressed today too that I have not lost more and like you it's mostly my fault. It is truly a mind set that you have to have to push past your comfort zone. It is taking me longer than I thought but I refuse to give up. I had surgery , I cannot fail with this band. Perhaps you do need to go back to your surgeon and get a fill if you feel like you can eat more than you should. I have noticed that stuff that is not good for you are sliders and for the most part are sweets. Thankfully, I'm not into sweets but I do like food and I have been drinking alcohol more than I should. I will be having another fill at the end of this month and I am working on my mind set so that I can get back on the horse and follow the rules. Almost every successful bander will say that "Follow the rules" !! Today is a new day you can make a fresh start. So can I. -
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Marimaru replied to ReadySteadyGo's topic in Rants & Raves
Texting, talking, reading, eating, putting on make up, even turning around to look at your kids, all are dangerous to yourself, your passengers and everyone else around you on the road. There have been studies that say that talking on your phone (even with a hands free set) can be as influencing as driving after drinking alcohol. I've seen this proven, and yet it's still legal (or severely unenforced?). -
Hi Edel, welcome to the site. YO are making the best decision of your life by going ahead and getting the lap band fitted. I lost 5 stone with a band from May 07 - Feb 08 and I am so much fitter and healthier for it. It totally radicalised my life and I am sso greatful that I saw it as a good investment in my own health. The reason I did it was so that I could make a baby and I successfully made one on my honeymoon there in February!!!! As for the alcohol, well it is inevitable that you will become a cheap date once you begin your weight loss journey. I am not convinced that it is all down to the band that you are more susceptible to getting drunk on smaller quatities of alcohol or if it is because you loose so much weight and your body needs to get use to such weight loss and the alcohol just seems to have a far greater effect! I could still enjoy my favourite glasses of red wine throughout my weight loss and nobody even noticed that I wasn't interested in drinking as much as I use to. Now I'm not sure about beer drinkers as I am not one so you will have to get more insight from them on here. As for your Q: re: the 3 stone weight loss by Christmas. Well if you get the band and follow the band eating rules and add in some exercise, like walking you will definately loose weight, no doubt about it. The trick is to keep working with your band and listening to your body so that you can reach your sweet spot and loose the optimal amount of weight. Keep asking the questions on here an dyou will get loads of anecdotal experience. Good luck!
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i just tried to use common sense, as too many rules was too confusing. i was told to eat protein 1st fruits and veggies 2nd, and if i had any room left over , carbs. i eat nuts or PB everyday, and include a little lo fat cheese 2-3 times a week. i have a cup of milk daily, and a little treat everyday. (skinny cow ice cream, or a cookie or 2).i dont like soda, alcohol, or fried foods, and eat fast food once a month, maybe. i think you're doing fine, and write in your logs what they want to see, but use good common sense in you daily eating habits. like they said, if it aint broke , dont fix it !!!
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http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/weight-loss-surgery-increases-risk-alcohol-addiction/t/story?id=16582225 Sorry, it isn't nonsense. We are hearing more and more about it lately. Sent from my iPad using VST
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Grace you do a great job on this board. There are just so many people here that just can't handle or accept what is the truth. Its hard to change ways that have become so ingrained that to them they see only see normal. Their view of "support" on this board and many others is some type of absolution. They want to be socially accepted for their failures without having to face the hard reality that they can't make the changes needed for success. From my time here, I've seen a lot of people that haven't reconciled their relationship with food and why they are the way they are. They come here and want easy-peasy, warm and fuzzy and if I screw up, well I'm still a great person. I think that you pulling back the covers and exposing this the way you do is what is needed on this board. This is serious stuff and you can't go through the process and not make significant lifestyle changes and expect to be successful. There seems to be a fair amount of mental preparation in this process that gets completely overlooked. I see that every day I visit here, with the questions about alcohol, eating a week after surgery and the general complaints about the pre-op diets ,people simply aren't ready or are unwilling to commit to the changes they need to be successful. Of course people will fail at this, mess up, eat what they shouldn't and so on, we all do, but coming here to gain absolution seems just asinine. Support comes in all sizes and forms. For those that get upset when they hear something that might be unpleasant, or isn't what they wanted to hear is equally foolish. I urge to you keep up the good work, you are doing a lot of good. I know that you might have to get the Kevlar socks out every now and again, but what you are doing is part of the whole process of support, the good the bad, the truth and the fluff. To the poster that wanted you go off can create your own rant group, well...If you do, I would be the first one to sign up. At least I can tell the difference from what is real and what isn't. Hang tough Grace!
