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I think it depends on whether you're getting the results you want. I've been eating 1000-1200 calories per day and exercising 500-600 calories 5 days per week since around month 3 or 4. My weight loss has been slow and steady pretty much the entire time. I eat what I like, including small treats and occasionally, alcohol. I'm 5 pounds from goal and loving my new lifestyle. At the rate I'm going, I expect I'll go below my pre-defined goal of 145, maybe as low as 135, (an even 100 pounds loss) but I doubt seriously that I'll settle there. If I do, I do, but I feel\look fine now and I'll feel fine at 145 in 5 pounds. Wherever I "land" I'll set a 5 pound range on either side of it and focus on maintaining that range. I feel like I've set myself up for a maintenance calorie goal of 1250-1300 which seems like a lot to me right now, but I'm sure I'll find a way to adjust. :-)
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Wil I have normal life after sleeve?
bikrchk replied to LighterSmarter's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm 8 months post-op and 85 pounds down... I have lost... an Olsen Twin. 1) when you eat and get full, is it the same feelling as today, just without the big food quantities? Or is it a different feeling? It's different. I feel fullness less in my stomach and more in my chest\throat now. 2) are you handicapped for life? Like the need to avoid certain foods and certain drinks. Since about month 4, I've been able to eat whatever I like in small quantities. Rice was the last hold out, but I can do that now too as long as I take it slow. I drink alcohol on occasion, (even a beer sometimes!) but not nearly like used to. I do not drink even diet soda. Just a choice. I don't really want it anymore and the carbonation is supposed to be bad for my sleeve. 3) can u ever drink a whole cup of Water, or will you need to sip slowly for life (sounds lile a torture). I can't gulp, but I can drink normal mouthfuls of water. Took a few months to get there, but feels perfectly normal now. 4) just tell me about ur day to day life. I dont know if u had the same feeling, but I sometimes think to myself that I might be crazy to be cutting an organ that functions 100% right. I'm up at 4:30 am and on the exercise bike for an hour every work day. I burn 500-600 calories per the heart rate monitor. I look forward to it now as I get to feed my NetFlix addiction for an hour a day, I've developed a good habit and it allows me to eat pretty much what I like in small quantities and still lose weight. I take a handful of Vitamins and I have 1 egg with a slice of cheese for breakfast. I Am. Full. I have a scoop of Protein powder in my coffee, (bonus 20g). I work. Have a handful of almonds about 9am. Some of them have thick dark chocolate! High protein lunch followed by a high protein dinner, (typically 3 oz of some kind of meat each meal) and I've hit my 80g of protein for the day and stayed under 1000 calories. If I want an afternoon snack or something I have it. If I'm busy, probably won't bother. Afternoons\evenings\weekends are motorcycle riding, dating, yard work, dog walking, festivals, movies, TV, shopping for smaller clothes. I wear a 4 or a 6 now after having been an 18. I finish the day with another Multivitamin and 1 Omeprazole, (stomach acid reducer) the only prescription I take after giving up 3 BP meds, cholesterol meds, several asthma meds, etc. Life. Is. GOOD! -
June 2014 Sleevers Check In!
MommaCEO replied to SnohoGal98296's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It's not stevia it's the erythritol a sugar alcohol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truvia#Gastrointestinal_side_effects What is your pre-op requirements, everyone is different, way different. Mine was 14 days of protein with either milk or water, broth or jello or sf (yuck) Popsicles. -
I am 6 months out and I would definitely do it again. The high points are too many to list...I can shop in regular stores for clothes. I feel fabulous, not only from the weight loss, but from eating so much healthier. I feel more confident out in public. The best part is I know I don't have to worry about ever being on a diet again. The low point is probably the C. diff infection I got 6 weeks postop. This wasn't a direct surgery related complication (got it from antibiotics I took for a tooth infection) but not being able to drink a lot because of my tiny sleeve complicated things a bit. I had severe diarrhea, so I got dehydrated and needed IV fluids 3 times. As for the preop and post op diet restrictions, I really didn't have a problem with any of it. It's just part of the process and if you really want it, the tiny sacrifice of a liquid diet for a month or so shouldnt be a big deal. My surgery experience was great...it was like being on vacation with my sister and I really had no postop pain. After about 4 months, I could eat anything I want and I do. I get hungry and eat every 3-4 hours. I make good choices, go for Protein and veggies first and drink lots of Water. I avoid carbs and processed food, but I have had ice cream, deserts, chips and alcohol on occasion. The only thing I've given up for good is carbonated beverages. Anything else is fair game as far as I'm concerned. I don't track or measure anything so I have no idea what my carb/calorie/protein intakes are. I take my Vitamins and I do still have one big Protein Drink (24-32oz / 30-40g protein) everyday so I don't have to think about hitting Fluid and protein goals. I have at least 7 different Protein shakes in my house and along with Torani syrups, I never get bored with the flavors. Good luck. Remember, this really is all about attitude and you will be successful and happy if you keep your eye on the end goal and don't get wallowed down on all the little things that come along.
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How long until you had your first drink?
Shells_Almost_There replied to 4.7.2014's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
My doc and nut were quite lenient about the alcohol consumption during the weeks after surgery, so at about 4 weeks out, I had 3 or 4 sips of wine for my birthday. I didn't feel any effect until the 4th sip. I experimented gently from 1 month out to about 6 months out, never drinking much, being very cautious. This is going to sound strange, but while the alcohol barely had an effect back then, now at 9 months, it is really affecting me. I went wine tasting last Sunday, and I couldn't finish even my 3rd sip because I was feeling it. (And I do mean a sip - I always ask for half pours and I don't gulp it all, since I know it will go to my head ). So weird. I think it's strange that it would affect me more now than early out, but there it is. We go wine tasting pretty often, so I will continue to be really careful with it. -
I have no desire for alcohol right now (i'm having a hard enough time eating, lol) but how long did you wait before your first alcoholic drink? Did it really affect you much differently than before surgery? Wondering if I will be able to have a drink at my 20th HS reunion in August...
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Would you do it again knowing all you know and what you have experienced? I would go through it again in a second if I had to. It was a big hassle getting all the approvals and it was painful that 1st week post-op, but I have no regrets. I know first few weeks liquids and protien shakes but can you eat real food again? I was eating real solid food at 30 days post-op. Just not much, which I was very very happy about. I was eating about 1/4 cup of real food per meal. Mainly turkey hamburger and chicken and refried Beans - my diet is pretty simple. Vegetables and fruits took much longer to get re-accustomed to - around month 6 I was able to add them back into my diet. By month 9, I could eat anything I wanted with little to no grumbling from Frankensleeve. :-) What are biggest highs and what are worse things? The biggest highs for me were being in control of how much I could eat and seeing the weigh fall off so quickly (about 15 lbs a month). The worst thing was that 1st week post-op, getting all that gas out of my body was painful and having to sleep propped up (I am a side sleeper and couldn't lay flat for about 10 days). Can you drink alcohol again once recovered and havre been on this new journey for awhile? I tried a beer at 6 months, sipped it slowly and had no problems. I'm not much of a drinker anyway, but I occasionally have tequila mixed with my Crystal Light lemonade. I'm a cheap drunk now! 2 shots of tequila and I'm done! :-P
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Hi I am scheduled for surgery on July 10th. I am excited but very nervous and even a bit scared. Even though I have done all requirements for surgery and lots of research and read tons of information on this surgery I still have many questions. So I wanted to ask those who are going to have the actusl and true answers since you have experienced this surgery. Would you do it again knowing all you know and what you have experienced? I know first few weeks liquids and protien shakes but can you eat real food again? What are biggest highs and what are worse things? Can you drink alcohol again once recovered and havre been on this new journey for awhile? Thank you for any knowedge and support. I need some friends who are or have gone through same thingI am going to do.
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How was your 5:2 day today?
Oregondaisy replied to Oregondaisy's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I think you look great too, Sheryl. I like that you can buy tops and bottoms these days in 2 different sizes. I like these little swim shorts they have come out with these days. I got mine at old navy. I wear them over the bottoms. I also have little shorts that go with the top, instead of a one piece or bikini type bottoms. I just didn't want to deal with having to talk it over with Bill. He knows that I'm still friends with Don, but I don't think he wants me interacting with him. I know I'd be the same way. He's friends with his ex, but I'd prefer he not spend time with her. I haven't even liked it when they've had a phone covo. He would just worry even if I told him Don was gone, that somehow we would run into each other. He's not out of town. He just went to a party across Portland and didn't want to drive after having alcohol so he stayed the night. For all I know, he could be home any minute. -
My FOOD ADDICTION! I want REAL FOOD!
Saramarie1023 replied to Gr8fulMiniMe's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I can certainly relate to this! However the more I surround myself with people who are supportive and keep myself busy the better I do. I sometimes find myself laying in bed thinking about how much I wanna chew something, but then I try to tell myself that if I can make it to the morning without giving into that feeling I will be so proud of myself. Don't quit yet and don't be so hard on yourself this has been a real eye opener for me and I am sure others...it is like an alcoholic going without alcohol...it is hard! Just remember you are not alone. We are all here with you rooting you on! -
Dr. Ariel Ortiz at the OCC
gastricsleever replied to Kindle's topic in Mexico & Self-Pay Weight Loss Surgery
Hey guys, So I am doing fantastic.... I am down 78lbs. I do a 5k at least 2-3 times a month, I'm working on improving my speed right now! Since I bought my fitbit in January about a month before surgery, I've walked 500 miles! Crazy how active I am now, and I love it. I used to hate exercising outside because I didn't want people to see me...now I hate being in the gym! I love being outdoors. I have been experiencing the crazy hair loss. I knew it was gonna happen, so I've accepted it....but I don't like it! lol Anyway, so my real reason for posting today. i was never a big soda drinker before surgery, once it a while when I went out I would have a soda. I've been drinking tea, water, crystal light and protein shakes since surgery. I haven't had any alcohol since July 2013, and I don't plan on starting that up again. But I have to say...I am DYING for a diet coke lately! So I'm not really clear on why they said no soda - is it because it can open up the cravings and addictions? Or is it because it can actually harm your stomach? Has anyone had a soda or a few sips here or there? -
Any February 2014 Sleevers?
Darianna75 replied to honeyg317's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
If anyone was considering having some alcohol.. Don't !! I went up a pound this week back on the sober wagon for me !! -
Busy week. several doc appointments this week as I start my journey
Rovobay posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am beyond amazed by the quality of care and service that is being provided to me by my care team. My journey started less than a month ago when I met with a new PCP, got referred to a weight loss clinic. since then I have started making lifestyle changes that will help me succeed in the future. I have stopped drinking alcohol (a big deal for me) and carbonated drinks! I had my group intro meeting Tuesday and met with a nurse practitioner and a nutritionist today all regarding my weight loss journey. Good news is, aside from being obese, there is absolutely nothing wrong with me. good blood work, perfect EKG, etc. Next step for me is a sleep study. I have never had one and I am not really looking forward to it. Also have appointments with a psychiatrist and physical therapist. It seems that Legacy Weight Management Institute has a real wonderful program that seems well thought-out. They strive to specifically tailor each surgery to each patient for best possible success. I am not required to lose any weight prior to surgery and have just started a 3 month medically supervised diet as required by my insurance. This is getting me really pumped up. I know I haven't been on here in a while, but I have the weekend off and plan to read a bunch of information. -
Carbs: aka, the crack cocaine of foods
TonyaNKy replied to TonyaNKy's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I swear that I feel like a recovering alcoholic. No joke. -
What is the real point of this surgery?
familyguy replied to powaqqatsi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Powaqqatsi, This is a great topic. You primary point -- that these surgeries are NOT a panacea or magic wand of weight loss is totally correct. If you can lose weight on your own and keep it off, then I wouldn't consider this surgery. For me, I just couldn't and wanted to extra help. You can still gain weight by eating the wrong foods, not exercising, etc. I'm six months post opp and sugar drinks, alcohol, Cookies, ice cream, and chips basically go down just as easily post surgery as they did pre surgery for me. So, if those are your big weaknesses, then I'd tell you it's not going to help. Fortunately, for me, those weren't my problem. My thing was that I ate way too much and had a ridiculous appetite all the time and this surgery does help tremendously for that. For example, in the past, I'd eat a large rack of baby back ribs with fries and slaw and then wonder about desert. Now, I eat 2 or 3 ribs (no fries, no slaw) and feel completely stuffed and satisfied. That kind of help has allowed me to get back to my high school weight and has been totally life changing. Anyhow, going in "eyes wide open" is super smart. Loosing a bunch of weight can make folks feel exuberant about their decision and your right to set expectations properly.- 54 replies
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Ex-Friend Keeps Writing Negatively About Me on Different Blogs and Web Sites
HumanMerelyBeing replied to Sharon C.'s topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
It's ironic that your ex-friend states, "No friendship is worth your physical and mental health." Well, that's terrific advice for YOU. You cannot accept her friendship on the terms she would like to offer it either. A friend who never wants anyone to change is one that has control issues and frankly does not offer unconditional friendship. Also, she is equating weight loss with being "fat-phobic" but we all know that's incorrect. I never despised my larger body and it certainly wasn't looks that ultimately motivated my weight loss decision. WLS is very far from a "cosmetic" procedure. What I did despise was not being able to do all the activities that I loved. I despised being mobility limited and not having the strength to walk on vacation or use my kayak or ride my bike comfortably. I despised the idea that my body at my former weight might not live to see my children graduated and married. These are things to despise. But despise my body - no, I didn't do that. I also despise the addiction to food that I was enslaved in. Addiction is a freedom-stealer. WLS helps with this tremendously at the physical and hormonal level (not cosmetically). If an alcoholic or a drug addict could have a surgery that would dramatically improve their chances of overcoming their life-threatening addiction - everyone would understand it perfectly. Why can't obesity and food addiction be treated without judgment? As others have said, this person has a lot of issues which she is trying to disguise with put-on righteousness. You are free to move on and focus on your health, your well-being and your bright future! You have chosen a path towards your freedom and I support you! -
Wake Up Call?
BeagleLover replied to HalloweenBaby24's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My wakeup call was finding out that the co-morbidities I had: diabetes and non-alcoholic fatty liver were *progressive*. That prompted my next question, "So where is this heading?" Even though my blood sugars were well-controlled, the doctor said that I would wind up with an insulin pump. I also have sleep apnea. The doctor told me that my weight would shorten my life by 10 years. Holy smokes! That's a LOT of time! Then I thought of my kids and their marriages and potential grandchildren. Didn't want to miss everything OR have my husband and kids hurt big time for 10 years longer than would have been necessary. -
Rena- I'm 12 months post surgery and havent had issues with alcohol until recently. I could have 2-3 drinks over the course of an evening without issues. But I agree with everyone that I should stop all alcohol for now. That's not a hard thing to do (and if it is, then I have bigger problems!) I do enjoy drinking socially. Whoknows- I thought about that, but they didn't say it was a kidney infection and I've finished the antibiotic and the pain is still there. Mrs.RRn- I don't know if they ran the pancreatic enzymes. I'm going to have my doctor request the ER records. I'm actually in the waiting room now. I hope he can shed some light on what's going on. Thanks for all your responses. It really helps to get others perspectives.
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@@Jen35 the above is correct. Also, if/ when it happens again ask the doctor to check your pancreatic enzymes (amylase & lipase). Since the pain is occurring after alcohol consumption, your pancreas could be involved. Good luck!
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I've heard that alcohol hits you harder after WLS. Last night I tried a shot glass full of red wine for the first time post surgery. I got really loopy quickly, but it also went away quickly. I've only consumed alcohol in a social setting, but I'm not sure it is worth it at this point. It never was a high priority for me anyway. Yes, you need to figure out what is causing your symptoms. Sounds like it might be getting worse.
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I would have them look for an ulcer. I have had a similar experience and it turned out to be a tiny ulcer on my sleeve. Not drinking the alcohol..Sorry I think it is a good thing.....LOL I have not drank it for 14 years.....For the sleeve it is a waste of calories..But that is just me.....No back lash guys everyone is different and sees things differently....To me no loss! But the other issue...I would ask for a scope....It may tell you more then you can get from a CT Scan. It might be a bladder infection but it sounds like more is going on to me!
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So I'm a year out from sleeve surgery with no complications other than my gallbladder removed 3 weeks after sleeve. About a month ago, I noticed pain under my right rib cage intermittently, but usually after I ate. Not terrible and not all the time. It's started to become worse and more frequent. About a week or so ago, I went out with friends and had a drink - not even a whole drink. I got this really weird reaction, pain and cramping from the middle of my back up my spine into my shoulder blades. It's hard to describe but it was very uncomfortable and odd. That night I had the abdominal pain all night and into the morning but it was also radiating to my back. It was Saturday, so I went to the ER. They did a CT scan, blood work and both were fine. The only thing they found was a urinary tract infection. I don't think that was the cause of the pain. I've taken the antibiotic and I still have the pain issues pretty frequently. I have an appointment with my MD, I'm just wondering if anyone else has experienced anything similar and what was the cause? As a side note, I've also noticed that my alcohol tolerance has gone way down over the last couple months. Like one drink hits me the way 3 drinks might have affected me 2 months ago. Weird, so I've stopped drinking at all till I know what's going on.
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It's not worth it. I won't do the preachy thing as I am sure you heard it all before. But think about this major surgery as a beginning of healthier living. We were told that those who have WLS. often turn to alcohol (once permitted) b/c food was an addiction that the stomach does not allow. She did not say smoking b/c technically nobody should per their understanding, but I found it interesting that they've seen alcoholism with WLS and that addiction factor b/c you mentioned the need to smoke is similar to your old need to eat.
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Thanks Guys. I know it is sooo mental, the things that I am doing. I go from waking up ready to start the day off right and as soon as a hot button issue hits (ie, bills are late, kids are fighting) I start thinking "f it!". @@Jack, the caloric drinks were mainly alcoholic beverages and coffee drinks that I know better than to be drinking. This Sunday I started on my journey again. Started doing the Couch to 5k thing (thats what I did before and really enjoyed it). I am thinking about doing the pouch test also before getting my band filled. I know I can do it again!! Thank you guys!!!
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How to stop weight loss
vsg_joanna replied to Andrew0929's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Andrew, like thesuse2000 says, it is IMPOSSIBLE that the 2.5 lbs is fat! Especially as a man it is possible to easily go up and down +/- 5lbs just from normal fluctuations. Larger men (I'm talking body builder types can even fluctuate +/- 10lbs!)You cannot let the daily variances mess with your head- you'd have to do this for a week or so and then see how the scale is trending. Some causes of Water retention: 1. Salty food 2. Not drinking enough water 3. Alcohol 4. Menstruation (women only... obviously) 5. There are many more that I'm too lazy to type
