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Don't recall anyone posting that they were eating any of the above. this reads like the pharmaceutical propaganda regurgitated. Lucky you that you haven't had complications, but about 50% of the people who have been banded have been permanently maimed by the band. I hope you don't end up like one of us. seriously, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. My hospital roommate was in the OR for 4 hours while they were removing the adhesions from his band to his liver and other organs. There is a reason it has been banned in some countries...and it is not because of ice cream. My province estimates it is costing the healthcare system 100k in ER visits for every band in the province (prior to revision). The revision rate I've heard from the local bariatric center is around 80%. Every single band study done (even the positive ones) show a complication rate (that requires surgery) in the 30-50% range. You are in the lucky 50%...
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What can possibly go wrong?
bellabloom replied to bellabloom's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I had Roux-en-y first. I then had a revision to sleeve due to complications from the rny. So my case is a bit more complicated than most. For instance, most sleevers don’t dump. I also had a lot of scar tissue and a stricture. I’m sure some of this contributes to my issues... although my best friend had a perfectly done RNY and has a lot of long term issues too. So it’s hard to say. -
Daily Menu Thread for the Wk 11.05.17-11.11.17
Subaru replied to FluffyChix's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I hope the revised approach gets it settled with insurance so you're not stressing over it! I'm fairly luck with my sleep apnea that I am able to use just the nasal pillows. Even though I'm a mouth breather as well, somehow I manage to mostly keep it shut when I have that on. That said, I was really good about using my CPAP for the first 6 or 8 months, but the last 5 months or so I've just sucked about it. I need to get back on track with it. -
ESG Consultation 11/28
hope4momof4 replied to BubblesCT's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
Hi AmyAlexis, Congratulations on that impressive 14 pound weight loss in only two weeks! Those are outstanding results and you should be proud of your accomplishment. I had posted to Bubbles about asking Dr. Sharaiha how many esg procedures need revisions later on down the road. Like Bubbles, I am looking to have this procedure done but am concerned about the lack of long term data available since it is fairly new. So I was wondering if you happened to ask this question during consultation. She pioneered this procedure and I believe that even if data in the Us is not available, surely there must be some data available from other countries who have been performing this procedure. I think countries like Mexico and Brazil have been doing this for years although it was the laparoscopic version with incisions and may have been called gastric plication. Thanks for any info you can provide. One other thing, did you post your starting weight at 159 lbs.? That seems like a low starting weight. What was your BMI if I’m not being too personal? I’m at a 32 BMI and if someone with a low weight like yours can lose 14 lbs. in two weeks then I definitely believe this is the right procedure for me. Thanks again and I wish you continued success. -
I’ve regained ALL the weight back 😢♀️
dreamingsmall replied to wouldntmindasandwich's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Aww are they revising your mind? Otherwise I can't see how that will help in the long run. What's stopping you from regaining after a revision.. your still the same person.. I'm confused. -
ESG Consultation 11/28
BubblesCT replied to BubblesCT's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
Hi hope4momof4, thank you for sharing your story with me. I will ask the doctor when I meet with her next week if she has any information on long term data of ESG procedure performed in other countries. I'm also curious to know what the revision would entail and the cost. I'm happy to answer any questions and share as much detail as possible to help those that are considering the procedure. It takes a village. I will update after my appointment next week. -
ESG Consultation 11/28
hope4momof4 replied to BubblesCT's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
I am almost in exactly the same boat as you. I am 43 and have been looking into bariatric procedures for years now but my BMI doesn’t qualify me for any of them. I also thought about the balloon but the reviews on its effectiveness were not stellar. In addition it is an expensive procedure to pay for that seems to only yield minimum weight loss. I, too became excited when esg became available here in the US. It seemed like exactly what I was looking for. It’s noninvasiveness coupled with impressive weight loss numbers (better than lap band) was a perfect fit for me. However, just like you I am concerned about it’s long term effectiveness. If I am getting to go through with any procedure I don’t want to have to “revise” it and I don’t want reassurance that I could always then go for a full sleeve or bypass later. I don’t like that this revision talk is always part of the conversation about esg. Any bariatric procedure should be an only one in my opinion. I think we’ll go through enough the first time around not to already discuss a second time. Yes I know that any procedure will need revision if you don’t put in the work that you need to put in to succeed but it worries me that it automatically is discussed when esg is brought up. I like you would like to hear more about the actual percentage of esg patients who actually needed revision. This procedure was done in other countries for years (although probably not endoscopicly, which is what makes esg so appealing to me) but there should be some data on this as I would like to know what I’m getting into. I was very close to getting a gastric balloon until I saw that the results of several who had it were not what I expected it to be. Maybe waiting for more data on this is the best way to go. I’m unsure as well and hope that I can finally reach a decision too. Good luck and please keep us posted. Remember how much you wanted to hear about this procedure from those who have done it and please be honest about your feelings on whether or not it was worth it for you. All my best. -
I’ve regained ALL the weight back 😢♀️
BarbieVSG14 replied to wouldntmindasandwich's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Why do you think you gained the weight? And why would you think a revision would be the answer? Sure, you may lose again with a revision, but it will come right back if you repeat the same behaviors that caused you to gain in the first place. Just keeping it real.- 87 replies
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Just beginning my journey to gastric bypass
kcvasquez replied to Crystal*'s topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
The only thing with the sleeve is that is not recommended for anyone already suffering from severe acid reflux or GERD. There is a very high revision rate from VSG to RNY for that reason alone. The sleeve works well but it is discouraged for that reason. -
My father will be getting DS done abroad. How long will he need to convalesce before traveling back to the US?
Less_Is_More replied to StephanieLeigh's topic in Duodenal Switch Surgery Forum
I had the traditional DS done by Dr Esquerra in Monterrey, MX. His standard time in the hospital is 4 days for a "virgin" DS, 6 days for revision. Mine was a revision; I travelled home immediately upon release from the hospital and was fully capable of negotiating two flights and a 90 minute shuttle ride home without a lot of pain. I worked from home starting the 10th day and felt tired but good. I took a nap during the day which helped quite a bit. Of course, YMMV, but that was my experience. I was fully functional within 3 weeks but if I had it to do over, I would probably allow a full two weeks before attempting to work. -
I’ve regained ALL the weight back 😢♀️
FLLyssa replied to wouldntmindasandwich's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
In the same boat, lost 100, up 30. My sleeve was 3 years ago. Have an appt with my surgeon tomorrow to get advice, maybe about revision. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using BariatricPal mobile app -
Revision to RNY - Hypoglycaemia
sleevelessinottawa posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Hi 👋 Wondering if anyone has experienced hypoglycemia after surgery? I had my VSG done September 25/2016 with severe GERD which prompted the surgeon to do a revision to RNY on August 28/2017. From that surgery they perforated my bowel and had to go back in for emergency surgery then after that a large abcess formed which resulted in needing a tube inserted surgically into my pelvic area to drain. Then from that I formed an infection from one of the incision sights which they had to reopen and then have packing to heal it . I'm happy all that trauma is over. I was at the doctor Friday and he advised me I am now hypoglycemic and I need to change my eating routine and need to eat more often throughout the day. I have done that but I am still experiencing episodes of lightheadedness clammy and energy loss. Has anyone here experienced this before? thanks for taking the time to read my post -
never made it to goal with some regain.
FluffyChix replied to Mrs Elliott8791's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
((hugs)) Sorry about your miscarriage and happy about your 2 children. If it were me, I would do 2 things now. 1. Go see my WLsurgeon and get them to send me to a nutritionist and a therapist in that order. Start the 6 month documentation with the therapist now. Get to finally working on the eating behaviors that are keeping me heavy and down. Get all of my blood work done to r/o thyroid, endocrine issues and/or underlying medical conditions. 2. Start working on getting an approval for revision to DS and find a surgeon in my network that can do that revision surgery--not all surgeons will or can do revisions to DS or RNY. Honestly, at this present weight and with the problems you had losing to goal with the VSG and if it was me, I'd go nuclear on my weight. DS is THEEEEEEEE most effective wl tool from a malabsorption standpoint--especially given what I think may also be the emotional/psychological eating issues associated with the regain and present weight. BTW, no judgement here. We all deal with emotional/behavioral issues with food relationships that simply MUST be fixed if we want to have any hope of losing and keeping the weight off long term. -
My surgery is on the 5th of December and I haven’t decided yet..!
bnikiz replied to lytebryte's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I am scheduled for Dec 5 also [emoji173]️ I went initially for the sleeve than was leaning to the bypass. After meeting with my surgeon he strongly suggest the sleeve since I did not have reflux or diabetes. The sleeve is easier on you body and if you have problems you can get it revised to the bypass. At least that’s my understanding. -
Just had the ESG as well
hope4momof4 replied to AlCzervik's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
Hey there smith.99, I hope the procedure works out for you and your sister. The one advantage you’ll have is having it done with your sister so you can both support each other as well as motivate one another. It sounds like your sister had a more difficult time with this than you did. After reading so many peoples’ posts about their procedure your post is proof that each individual will react differently. You didn’t have any major discomfort while it looks like your poor sister had a rough postop. I guess I’ll just have to try my luck. To be honest this is not what worries me the most about this procedure, what I’m concerned with is whether or not it will work (meaning if I’ll lose weight) and how it will affect my stomach long term. Some say you can revise if restriction starts to get less while others say you can always revise to a sleeve and still others say you can not have a sleeve done afterwards b/c of scar tissue. I’m very confused about that part of this procedure. Either way, if I do get an esg done it will be an only procedure for me as I need this to be successful. I must go in with the mindset that this is it and I have to make it work no matter what. I also believe that every bariatric surgery or procedure can fail if you don’t do your part to change your eating habits and adapt a healthier lifestyle. Please keep us updated on you and your sister’s progress. Your BMI is very close to mine and it would certainly give me great encouragement to move forward. Thank you so much for your post. 😊 -
How long till my belly will not be Swollen? I had revision from band to bypass. Lost 16 lbs since 11/10! But not in my belly. Ugh Sent from my SM-G920T using BariatricPal mobile app
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December 2017 Gastric Bypass!
tankheadmommy replied to 823freckles's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Wow...that's awesome! Pretty cool that we are getting revisions as well. I love the support we get here. My family is great, but it is hard for them to identify with the issues I encounter as a wls patient (as hard as they try[emoji4]). Sent from my SM-T818T using BariatricPal mobile app -
seeking a mentor/ buddy
pamsastrology replied to Unkle Jaye's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
When I think the weight may start to slow down, I go back to the basics, maybe have liquids or soft foods and drop a few calories. If I can walk, I’ll do something to burn off the fat. I eat so much less fat,and I’m burning my own body fat. I’m not able to hit the gym for a full throttle workout, so I make sure I get the proteins, vitamins, supplements in, and go a little lower in the calories. This is my second time around, but the pouch wasn’t reduced...too much scar tissue. I have to do this with my own self, and I do document what I consume within a 24 hour period, and eat or drink according to my schedule. I’m up all hours, but I’m older, and this is supposed to make me lose less. Not true for me. I lost 20 lbs in 4 weeks. I never look at the scale, but document so that I don’t go overboard. I’ll eat diet gum...more than a few pieces, because it satisfies my need to chew, plus it’s sweet. But, this is just what I do. When I plateau, I’ll switch some foods to keep the body changing. I can’t afford expensive Bariatric foods, but I do the best I can. I used to be a slave to the scale. Now; I’m dedicated to the process. It’s label reading, serving sizes, and, my dr wants me to eat a certain amount of calories. Although the revision failed due to scar tissue, I realized that my stomach won’t be the help I need. I’m the help I need. Anyhow, I hope this was somewhat useful. -
Feeling badly 4 days after sleeve surgery
IBELLOSO replied to paminTexas's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi Pam, I had surgery October 30, 2017. My first day post-op was horrible. Pain cross my chest and spasms all day. Dr. Wanted to keep me an extra day. I should have listened. Trying to keep up with the liquids was very hard. I also was drained no energy x about 2 weeks. I was started on soft diet on Tuesday and can't seem to eat much. Dr says it's normal x me. I've had the lapband, revision and finally had to be taken out in January. He said I have scar tissue and expects it to be tight. Hope you recover quickly. -
Looking for a buddy who understands regain.
pamastrologer replied to smilinred's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I am 16 years out, had a revision that didn’t work. I went through all the motions as those whose surgeries were successful. Mine wasn’t. A dr there told me that I would only lose 40 lbs. He had no idea of the sacrifices I made. Instead of a revision, which took a waiting period of 14 months, I did not get it done. I regained weight after complications of another surgery. We regain weight for many reasons. So, I felt like the only one who left the hospital empty handed and sad. No one is stupid for trying to be healthier. I was so upset at this “another failure” that I decided to “reset” my mind instead of thinking about the stress of regain and revision. My driving force is what motivated me. These textbook doctors and nutritionists don’t know what’s in our head. They see you for 5 minutes, get their $300-$400, and I’m left to deal with this myself. Even my family doesn’t help very well. I decided that since the drs can’t help me, I’ll be damned if I’m going to fail myself. I’m going through the motions as if I’m a brand new patient, regardless of my hunger or very painful legs. I’m going to prove that jerk dr who told me that I would only lose 40 pounds. What an idiot. I lost weight before, regained and they can’t fix it. Well, I’ll start all over, no matter what it takes. If I binge on diet chewing gum to get through the food urge, fine. It is what it is. I know what I could have done better the first time around. We have another chance because I do not believe in failure, no matter what the circumstances are. Plus, I’m probably older than you, so now I’m told more bs about age. I’m going to prove them wrong, and I’ve already done searches like MyFitnessPal.com. We can’t do anything about the past, but we can control our future. I hope this helps you in some way. - Pam -
December 2017 Gastric Bypass!
absolutely_flabulous replied to 823freckles's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
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That's all so amazing, congrats! I just met with my team today, 1 week 1 day post op. Looking forward go moving up in this journey with puréed starting on Thanksgiving! Yay that’s great Thanksgiving starts my soft mushy foods so I already have my meal planned mashed potatoes or a small sweet potatoes, turkey blended in gravy and dressing and maybe a bite of pie hours later! Going to take it slow and nibble my small plate all day! Good luck! HW:214.9 SW:205.5 CW:197.2 Lapband Removed 9/13/17 Revision to Sleeve 11/8/17 Goal Weight: 145 🤞🏾[emoji1488][emoji1487]
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Happy Friday all yesterday I had my 1 week and 1 day post op! I have been doing wonderful I am down 17 lbs 9 of those pre-op today makes 9 Days post-op I start taking my chewable vitamins and 7 days of Purée food! I’m excited to try a scrambled egg and maybe some soups but not everything blended excites me at all! 🤪 I’m thankful to have full energy since like day 4 by day 5 I was off pain meds taking my kids to/from school to get out of the house and I have been getting in over 5,000 steps according to my Fitbit! I thought I was going to hate my surgeon on my birthday 11/15 one week post-op but I felt normal even went to the movies! Everyone is different some will struggle with nausea and vomiting I’m thankful I never did others will struggle with having no energy or pain I did the first few days recovery is swelling and hell! [emoji49] Each day does get better! Happy Healing to all November Sleevers!! HW:214.9 SW:205.5 CW:197.2 Lapband Removed 9/13/17 Revision to Sleeve 11/8/17 Goal Weight: 145 🤞🏾[emoji1488][emoji1487]
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I had revision from band to rny on 11/13. Good Lord I feel terrible. I'm very sore, and nauseous. I have been able to get at least 60 oz of fluid down so that's good. My surgeon does not believe in sending patients home with any pain meds, and are giving me a hard time about refilling the Zofran. They sent me home with five Zofran, that's it. I guess because I know how my previous surgery went, that I was sent home with pain meds to last a few days I'm a little irritated. I know that having bypass is so different then band, I feel very strange. How long until I feel better? Sent from my SM-G920T using BariatricPal mobile app
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I have a friend who is seeing him for a bypass revision. He's supposed to be excellent! From what I've read, the biggest decision points for sleeve vs. bypass are these: -GERD/reflux (can be an issue with sleeve) -Malabsorption -Amount of weight to lose -Dumping (which some consider a positive reinforcement to help keep one on track) From a very general perspective, they both seem to be good options with great success rates so they key factors are (as they should be) which one is right for you and your particular health concerns. Best of luck in your search! (Also, I forget if you've got to any of the group sessions at the Miriam. You'll have to attend at least 2. Info is on their website and you can go at any time. You don't need to wait.)
