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Low BMI obesity gastric sleeve option
SpartanMaker replied to William Weston's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I hate that "it's taking the easy way out" line. There's nothing easy about this. Plus, why in the world would that even matter? It's like some people think if we use a tool like surgery, we didn't pay our "penance" for being fat. "Nope, sorry, you're not worthy of being healthy, because you cheated your way to health. Do it the right way or not at all" Really? I sympathize with the position you're in as my wife was and still is very anti weight-loss surgery. Her line was always why would you permanently alter your anatomy when it's possible to do this without making so drastic a change? My response is I never had a problem losing weight, what I always struggled with was maintaining. After way too many yo-yo diets, I needed to do something else. Dieting alone was not working for me. I needed a better tool. That's what it is, by the way, a tool. The analogy I like to use is that WLS is like a shovel. I know that sounds odd, but bear with me... I've dug quite a number of holes on my property to plant trees. Most of those trees will be here longer than I will, but It's still worth it to plant them. I suppose technically I could have tried to dig those holes with my hands but wow, that would have been a challenge and I'm not sure I would have been able to finish the job. With a shovel, it became doable. The shovel still was a lot of work, but it made an almost impossible job, possible. No one thinks using a shovel is "cheating", we just think of it as a better tool. At the end of the day, the risk of early death for me was extremely high with cardiac issues, diabetes, liver and kidney problems, etc. I began to feel that I was living on borrowed time. WLS for me was life-changing and life saving. It immediately reversed my diabetes and high-blood pressure. I used the tool because I had reached the point where all I saw in front of me was an early death. For what it's worth, it would also seem that the medical community takes your side here based on the available medical evidence: https://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/442260-after-30-years-new-guidelines-for-weight-loss-surgery/ Best of luck whatever you decide. -
Weirdest None-Scale-Victory - I'll go first
Tony B - NJ replied to chiquitatummy's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I stopped using mine about 3 months after surgery and have not touched it since. After losing significant weight, you may not need it at all. I obviously would check with your doctor, but it is not uncommon. -
Low BMI obesity gastric sleeve option
William Weston posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hello. I am 44y old male and I am seriously considering SG. I am 5’7 and around 195 lb. I know this is not too obese -I am in fact BMI 31- and normally bariatric surgery should not be an option. Yet, after extensive literature reading I believe it is a good option. I have high blood pressure , high cholesterol and early non alcoholic fatty liver disease. Moreover , I have been always struggling with weight issues since I was a teenager, alternating times of physical activity and good diet habits -and a relative healthy weight as a result - with bad periods of overeating and sedentary behavior. All in all, the aggregated tendency is adding up weight on the long run. My wife is highly critical of this decision, blaming me for taking the “easy way” instead of modifying my eating / physical habits. I’ve tried to explain her several times the apparent inconsistency of deeply wanting to get rid of my weight problem with the fact that it is nevertheless not easy at all. She’s naturally skinny and cannot grasp how fat/obese people relate with food. I’d love to hear from those on a similar situation. I believe it is the right step to do, but I want to hear open, sincere opinion -so not just for reaffirming my choice but rather to have well grounded , unbiased, facts for a well informed decision. -
Greetings, Going to celebrate out loud today! I have lost 100 lbs from my July 2021 highest recorded weight and all in PRE op!!! 85.8 Lbs in 2022! Damn, this has been hard. A lot of emotional and behavioral change went into this effort. A lot of re-education about nutrition and choices. A lot of forgiving myself for getting to this weight. A lot of healing. A lot of journaling. A lot of reminding myself that I am worth taking care of. It also has been easier than I thought. Once I gained the confidence that I could, I did. Yes, I have had doctor support and taking Ryselbus helped, but mostly this is me making true and long lasting change. I am comforted by the fact that if for some reason I could not have the sleeve surgery on November 3rd, 2022, I would still loose weight and feel better and my LIFE would be better. Everyone has this in them. Its a tough road, but we can all achieve better in our lives.
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I wanted to make an exercise suggestion - c25k
The Greater Fool replied to Tufflaw's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Congratulations! Much like you, I was not one who enjoyed running. I decided to do a program amazingly similar to C25K just to challenge myself, I had no intention of continuing. As it turned out I enjoyed running. I used the time and repetitive motions to meditate and focus on what the day was going to be about. From a weight loss perspective my weight just kept consistently dropping until I passed a completely unexpected normal BMI. Good luck, Tek -
It could just be up because of your weight loss & the stress of weight loss on your liver but it’s probably best to monitor it for a while. There are tests to ensure it’s not related to cirrhosis, fatty liver, gallstones, hepatitis, bile duct blockages. Will be interesting to see what your doctor says. My bilirubin levels were high & still are three plus years on. My surgeon asked if there was Gilbert’s in my family as a sign of that is high bilirubin levels. I discovered I did have an aunt with Gilbert’s & I also had a lot of the symptoms of Gilbert’s too (explained a lot actually) so my surgeon believes I likely have it too.
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I wanted to make an exercise suggestion - c25k
Tufflaw posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi, I wanted to make a suggestion for those looking for a good way to exercise post-surgery. For those thinking of starting a jogging regimen but hate the thought of actually running, I strongly recommend a program called c25k, which is short for Couch to 5K. The idea is that by following this program, you go from sitting on your couch doing nothing to running a full 5K (3.1 miles) in 9 weeks. I've always hated running but doing something like a 5K was always on my bucket list, so I decided to give it a try. I've tried the c25k program in the past (years ago) with some decent results, but never stuck with it. So now that I've lost some decent weight post-surgery I wanted to try to kickstart my metabolism again and get some good exercise so I decided to try the program again. And it was a success! I followed the program, ran three times a week using my c25k app, and made it to the end. After I finished I ran three 5Ks a week for a few weeks until I ran in an organized 5K event where I placed 18th out of 63, and 2nd place for my gender/age group! Now, for someone who always hated running, I can't believe I'm doing this, but a few weeks ago I started the b210k program (Bridge to 10K), which is a six week program that gets you from running a 5K to running a 10K (6.2 miles). Today was day 1 of week 3, and I ran 3 intervals of 1.8 miles each with .1 mile walking in between, for a total running of 5.4 miles. If you've ever thought of trying to start jogging but didn't have a plan or thought it was impossible, give this a shot, you won't regret it. It starts off really easy and gradually builds up. There are a ton of free and paid apps you can use. I personally use Rundouble which has a free version, and you can pay to unlock additional programs. I've also heard very good things about an app called Nike Running Club, which is also free. I've also tried Zombies Run 5K which is pretty neat. Best of luck to whoever gives this a shot, hope you'll post your progress here! Bonus pictures of me and my daughter after the 5K (she ran the kids fun run and took 2nd place): -
No one talks about. To much weightloss
sweetsmith78 replied to sweetsmith78's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
The foods that you mention nuts , butters and avocados, but also dried and fresh fruits, whole grain breads, potatoes (sweet and white), oatmeal, full fat dairy, I have ate from day one. Except pasta , high carb food. Are you saying to eat pasta , high carb foods? Of course I have since trying to put weight on. Healthy dense calorie food does not help with weight gain. But that’s for me. Everyone is different. I do need to mention my stomach feels more restricted. I was up to two cups of food 1 year out. Now being 2 plus years I’m down to 1/4 cup to 1/2 cup. Any ideas anyone. -
No one talks about. To much weightloss
SpartanMaker replied to sweetsmith78's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Are you working with a dietitian? When you're actually underweight and struggling to gain weight, all the things you learned about losing weight go out the window. For example, if you're avoiding carbs, you need to stop. If you're watching your fat intake, that too needs to stop. As @ShoppGirl said, this does not mean you should eat junk, there are plenty of healthy carbs and fats you can add to your diet. Do a google search for things like "healthy calorie dense foods". You'll see nut butters and avocados, but also dried and fresh fruits, whole grain breads, potatoes (sweet and white), oatmeal, full fat dairy, pasta, etc... -
I had a different sleeve procedure (ESG), but had the same fears. I thought I was feeling hunger. So I talked to my team about it, expecting the lecture. But they told me something that really opened my eyes: I have for decades interpreted every little stomach gurgle as a hunger signal. (This was part of my problem that led to my weight gain.) Time to stop and think about it first. Is this really hunger, or could it be thirst, gas, another sort of discomfort? I mean, like you I am only weeks out, so there is really no way this could be real hunger. I was told see if it responds to a sip of water. See if a sip of protein shake helps. Change position (sit/stand/turn over if in bed) to see if that makes it go away. Try a lozenge -- I had some sugar-free lemon Ricola drops because of the sore throat typical after an endoscopy. Bingo! That worked wonders! I don't know if it's an oral fixation thing, but a tiny lozenge does the trick. Here's how I know I am not really hungry: if I am working on a work project, I can go all day without feeling hunger. I am one of those that has to set a reminder to eat on my phone. So that feeling I was interpreting as hunger was something else. ("I'm not saying it was aliens, but it could have been aliens." 😁)
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I’m excited for you good job! I have changed my goal weight several times. But when is enough enough?
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My team says "no peeking at the presents before Christmas morning!" Christmas comes once a week, and the present is my weight on the scale first thing in the morning without clothes. It's a self-control thing, which does indeed drive me crazy some days. But I find it easier to think of in these terms. Have you been tracking your measurements? Neck circumference, chest, under chest / bra line for women, abs, belly button, hips, biceps (measure both), and thighs (again, both). Get a good quality tape measure (retractable or app based). Some weeks the scale does not move, but the tape measure does.
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No one talks about. To much weightloss
sweetsmith78 posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I’m 2 plus years out of gastric bypass. I have lost all my weight plus some. According to the stats I’m under weight. I have ate absolute junk food to get my weight up. Just makes me feel like crap. Just to much sugar. I eat my fair share with in reason. My stomach seems not to be growing. So I can put more food in. I’m really starting to worry about other health issues that I tried to avoid by doing the surgery. I’m looking in healthy even I can see. When I’m 60 am I going to have issues maintaining or gaining then. I was not prepared for this. People are fully focused on how fast and how much. But not the bigger picture. I’m sure I’m not the only one dealing with this. People who are going thru this. I would like to here your opinion. -
Just starting my journey!
OKmommax4 replied to Manda1031's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi everyone! I am just getting started, I have my first consult on November 8th, and I think my insurance is going to require a 4-month supervised diet, however, I am hoping that I can appeal that because I have been doing medically supervised weight loss for at least 6 months with medications and no results. If not I guess I am in for 4 months more of medicine and appointments. Either way, I am excited to get started. -
Most insurance plans require your participation in a "physician supervised weight loss program". These tend to range from 3 to 6 months. For example, my insurance only required 3 months, but like @kcuster83, my bariatric team required 6 months. The main reason for this is that surgery alone isn't all that effective long term. To truly lose weight and maintain, we have to learn to change our relationship with food. In addition to that requirement, you'll likely also have to complete a psych eval and may, depending on your program, have to have any number of other tests done like blood & urine tests, CT scans, swallow studies, an endoscopy, etc. Depending on if you have other health issues, you may also have to get other specialist doctors to give their okay, which means even more appointments. It took me almost 3 years to make it through everything, though obviously I'm the exception. You can read all about my journey here: https://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/441618-spartanmakers-long-and-winding-road/ Best of luck.
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Revision completed
Tracyringo replied to Tracyringo's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
What do you think about the weight loss end so far? What part of Missouri are you in? I am in Springfield. -
Hey July peeps. I’m past my 3 months since surgery. I too had a 3 week stall and I’m losing slow but steady now. I feel really good. I lost 20 lbs prior to surgery and another 43 since. I’m feeling good. I’ve gone from size 20W to 14W. My energy level is low; I think cuz I’m on 600-800 calories a day. I’m walking most days and still doing light weights but I’m not building stamina. I have an appointment with a nutritionist tomorrow and I’ll get my labs done on Thursday. I’ve found that I bruise way too easily right now too. I’m talking severe bruised on my forearm just cuz I put on long gloves as part of a costume. They’re going to be checking into that too. Other than that I’m very happy with the slow but steady progress. I hated the stall. I’m the one in the ivory dress with the pink ribbon. Those are the gloves that killed me.
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Had Surgery on June 21. Lost a total of 88 lbs since pre-op (61 since surgery). It's been so much easier than I feared. No complications whatsoever. Everything is going great. But I've hit a plateau. I am at the same weight now that I was 3 weeks ago. Really the first plateau I've had. I've read enough to know they happen and it's not a reason to panic. I did have a 10 day vacation in there when I didn't track at all though I'm confident I ate well. But other than that and another short vacation, I've tracked every single day since surgery. So I'm not panicking. I know I'm eating right and the weight loss will return. And I'll be very happy when it does. Until then, I'm not panicking ... really, I'm not. Really. 😂
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It does feel good. My hope is that everyone can feel the same way I do. I hope no matter how much weight we lose or don't lose I hope we all can appreciate all the positives and can recognize that even if we don't ever achieve our ideal body size or weight we have still accomplished so much! We should not look in the mirror and see the weight we have to lose. We should try to see the improvement in our lives and health no matter what. It helps for me to remind myself that even people who have been thin their whole lives hate their bodies. Sorry for the rant, but I just want us all to be happy and love ourselves no matter what.
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I love that!!! Half of my starting weight would be 194, which is only 6 pounds from my goal. Maybe I'll change my goal to 190 so I can say I lost MORE than half of me lol I'm really happy for you and the progress you're making!!!
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I don't know if I have a theme song but I do have 2 songs that I like that seem inspiring to me and my weight loss journey. Legends Are Made by Sam Tinnesz and Katy Perry - Rise. I made a whole exercise playlist of upbeat music to give me energy and it really does help. I'd love to add more music to my playlist so hopefully this thread gets lots of responses.
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My surgery was July 20th. In the first few weeks I posted here about how I hadn't lost any weight and was completely regretting the surgery. I didn't lose anything for 3 weeks! But since then I've lost 47 lbs. And the 22 before surgery brings my total to 69 lbs. Things have been going pretty well. It's frustrating at times to find that something that recently agreed with me just won't on a different day! I feel like I'm a slow loser tho, considering my starting weight was 367 I figured a lot would come off quickly. I've just had to adjust my expectations but it bums me out a bit still. It's nice to see that Joanie and Kevin are right around the same amount lost tho. That's reassuring.
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Hello everyone! I am 3 months and 1 week post-op from my gastric bypass. My scales are reading 198-201 lbs - very exciting!! I have lost 90 lbs from my highest weight (about 50 lbs since surgery). I have a chocolate fairlife protein shake every morning for breakfast; for lunch i eat 2oz of cottage cheese and 2oz of chicken salad; then supper is a little bit of whatever we are having as a family. Occasionally i just have a peanut butter protein shake for supper. I am not hungry much and I get full pretty quickly. I'm off my acid reflux medicine. I'm making many trips to the thrift shops for clothes. I can get down on the floor (and back up) to play with my grandson! I walk my dog and go up/down the stairs at work & at home. My energy level is terrific! I can go out and do errands, then come home and still do other things (no constant napping). Life is good!! I had a stall just a week after my surgery. I followed all the rules exactly, but didn't lose a pound for 3 weeks. Since then i've been losing a pound every couple of days or so. Exercise: I wear a fitbit and have a goal of 6000 steps a day. I am usually meeting that! I've had to work up to it gradually. I may start going to the gym once a week for a little weight training - but nothing strenuous. Also, might do zumba once a week at my church (very low key). I am so thankful for the surgery. Also thankful for this forum where everyone is encouraging and helpful. Hope everyone is doing well!!
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Do you have a "theme song" for your weight loss journey? My teenage nieces are big on this, and to be fair so was I -- except back in the day we made mix tapes, not playlists! So I am going to create a playlist from all your theme songs to power me through this unique period in my life. Thanks for sharing!! Mine is Defying Gravity from Wicked, not just because of the whole gravity / weight thing. What really sold it was the first line: "Something has changed within me..." 😂 I'm like, YES, literally, my stomach.
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I think we all are really just guessing as to goal weights anyway, so half your body weight seems as good a goal as any! I mean I spent a bunch of time writing a program to estimate what I "should" weigh, but I'm not convinced it's any more accurate than my gut feeling, or just using the weight I remember being when I was younger. Especially for me as a guy, my "goal" weight is highly dependent on muscle mass. I could end up weighing anywhere between about 170 and 225, depending on how much muscle I retain or regrow along the way. As a result, I'm a lot more focused on my % body fat and not scale weight.