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High Risk Patient due to scar tissue/adhesions
Bling_Queen posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi. I'm hoping someone can give me some insight. I was all gung-ho about my surgery. I had al clearances done. I was transparent about all of my prior surgeries. Surgery day came. My surgeon opened me up and closed me after three hours and aborted the surgery due to my having "the worst case of scar tissue I've ever seen" condition. I'm all upset because I NEED this surgery or else I can't have the other surgery I desperately need which is revision surgery on my back (I have scoliosis) where there's concrete causing me to have severe pinched nerves on both shoulders and pain going down my whole left side of my body and resulting in my sciatic nerves to hurt me as well! My orthopedic doctor WILL NOT operate on me with this weight and is afraid if I don't have the sleeve, I'm just going to get bigger and bigger to where I won't be able to walk on my own!! I'm scared & desperately need advice! Someone? Anyone? PLEASE⁉️ -
Sleevers- is ANYONE happy with their decision?
Healthy_life2 replied to Bariatric Baddie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Three years and seven months out..I'm absolutely happy I had sleeve surgery. No revision needed. I think you will see people come back to support forums when they are struggling. You don't need support when all is well and you are maintaining your weight. -
Sleevers- is ANYONE happy with their decision?
Bariatric Baddie posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I just got sleeved 4 days ago and at the time it seemed like that was the best option but now almost every forum and fb group I’m in is just riddled with people getting their sleeves revised to rny or bypass. Is anyone actually happy with their sleeves? -
Revision surgery
Travelher replied to Nancy Geoghegan's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
This is probably a question best suited to ask your doctor. Mine was smooth sailing. If there were no adhesions with your removal, you are probably ok. Adhesions may form from the band to other organs. When I was in the hospital my roommate had 4hrs with 2 surgeons to remove the adhesions from his band to his liver and intestines. It was so bad he got a sleeve instead of an rny because of the scar tissue and time under anesthetic. Mine was smooth sailing, 90 minutes start to finish. Easy peasy. My doctor gave me the option prior prior to my revision/removal. If scar tissue is bad...1...we clean it up and close you up and you come back in 3 months for Rny once things have healed. Or 2 we clean it up and sleeve because we can cut around the scar tissue to form the sleeve. I was lucky and didn’t have anything to prevent Rny. You've already had a band removal, if there were major issues, they likely would have seen them then. -
How did you finance your surgery?
Grammylulu replied to Chunkysoup's topic in Mexico & Self-Pay Weight Loss Surgery
I cashed out a 401k to pay for my revision. I figure I am preparing for my future a different way plus my hubby has a great retirement package for us to live on when were old! -
There are dozens of studies globally that all say the same thing. complications that require revisions (read surgeries) of some sort range in the 30-50% range by 10 years out. it is why the rate of banding dropped to less than 5% now and it is banned in some countries. Until the "newer" bands have been around for 10 years, no one will be able to predict whether the pharma marketing claims are true (hopefully they are, but nobody can say that yet). all procedures have advancements over the years. the data is what it is aged, in every single case for all surgeries (by about 10 years to be viably trusted). Frankly at revision rates of 30-50%, the long term band complications are significantly higher than other bariatric surgeries. Having said that, this means 50-70% are still revision free at 10 years, so issues are not a foregone conclusion. So if you are symptom free and successful, enjoy it and don't worry about it. I had a great 3 years with the band before mine went bad. My advice though is this. if you start to have issues, don't do what I did and many others and ignore the symptoms, make excuses for it and stick your head in the sand. get them addressed and fast. If they aren't resolving, remove it before it is too late to have other options. The band is sold as low complication and virtually consequence free, that is simply not true. Yes it is reversible, but it does permanent damage in many cases. it stretches the esophagus over time and can cause reflux (which can lead to cancer), cause adhesions to other organs (my hospital roommate spent 4 hours longer than me in surgery with 2 surgeons removing the adhesions from the band to his liver and intestines. many have slips or erosion. Just make sure you are being your own best advocate for your health, and act to resolve issues, they will not go away on their own.
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Considering a lap band - scared after reading this forum!
mbj8r8 replied to Elrix's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had the Lap Band in 2010. Initially I lost all my extra weight. However my band slipped and had to be removed. My WLS no longer does lap bands because of problems they’ve had with it. I would suggest you read some studies, the good and the bad, to see if it’s right for you. I know someone who still has theirs in and is happy. However, I hear of a lot of people revising the band to another WLS. HW 355 CW 335 GW 180 RNY 01/22/18 -
Considering a lap band - scared after reading this forum!
VSGnewguy replied to Elrix's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Well, if you've been reading the forum and seen all the people needing Lapland revisions, then this should be fairly evident. If I remember correctly, the percentage of lapbands done in 2016 was only 3% of all weight loss procedures. That number has dropped dramatically year after year with most of those moving toward VSG. -
Considering a lap band - scared after reading this forum!
Elrix replied to Elrix's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
What are the chances that I’ll need a revision? My bmi is 32 at the moment. I am honestly a food addict, and my appetite gets the best of me. I’m just tired of feeling like I have no control over my eating habits. I truly feel like the lap band could help me stabilize and take control for the rest of my life. I’m only 21 years old so that would mean my lap band would have to last 40+ years! Is this even possible?? -
Considering a lap band - scared after reading this forum!
Elrix posted a topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I have my first consultation next week for lap band surgery. I was certain that the positive result from the lap band would outweigh the negative. But reading about the lap band causing CANCER and heart problems and removal and revision surgeries and slipping and ‘horrible pain’ and er visits. I feel unbelievably scared and unsure! -
revision rates due to complications range from about 30%-50% from most of the studies. estimates are that those numbers will only continue to go up from here. ultimately it is a piece of equipment and equipment fails. if you go the the "failed Lap band and realize band" page on Facebook, it looks, overwhelmingly that gerd, reflux and vomiting are the major causes for people wanting to seek removal. followed by lack of weight loss (mostly due to de-fills to alleviate the reflux or vomiting or eating unhealthy sliders because healthy foods get stuck). and also erosion and slips show up. I revised to RNY and just wish I'd done it to begin with. no issues with surgery or recovery, RNY feels normal. totally different than living around a band and dealing with the unpredictability of a band. recovery felt quicker and easier than with the band, but that is probably knowing what to expect and doing lots of walking to get the gas out. I did self pay because I couldn't live with the band for one more second (and frankly was warned by my surgeon that it needed to come out asap) and wait lists where i am can go a year or more. I also wanted to chose my surgeon. my cost for the revision was 23k CAD, straight removal would have been less (I think 16k). it would have been covered if i'd chosen to go through the whole process for insurance. In the US I know some folks have had issues getting coverage for revision unless their BMI was high enough. .
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Surgeon didn't complete my Gastric Bypass surgery!
boricua875 replied to numinousvessel's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I understand what you because they try to do revision of gastro bypass back July 2017 and the doctor aborted the surgery because he stated they I have to much scar tissues. Now I am waiting for approved to have done but they will have to open me like they did back in 1995. -
Want Sleeve but scared of no weight loss
jess9395 replied to starvinardis's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Boards like this aren't a representation of the sleeve population at large. You say you see "many" getting revised to bypass. Successful sleeve patients aren't posting about not needing one. It's only those who need the revision who post. Most successful sleeve patients are off living their lives. I wouldn't go by that. I would look to see actual statistics about revision rates. Not saying RNY isn't a great operation, it absolutely is. But many people have success with the sleeve as well. -
Sleeve to Bypass revision weight loss success?
Tmusselman replied to Tmusselman's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Wanted to add one more question. How long were you off work for a revision from sleeve to bypass? -
Able to eat more than I should
Healthy_life2 replied to I AM NOT MY SIZE's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Big debate on if you can stretch your sleeve....Very few surgery revisions are done...Enough said. I am three years. Yes, I can hold more food volume. But it's not like pre surgery. When I go back to weight loss mode to maintain my weight...... I log my food. I eat protein first. I eat all the veggies with each meal to the point where I feel full. I cut carbs and sugar (they leave me craving them more) Stalls and plateaus happen. It's part of the process. Keep plugging away at your plan to get the scale moving again. If you are having a large shall see the link below on how to break it. https://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/351046-embrace-the-stall/#comment-3952027 Grazing...If you find yourself eating more frequent meals. If you find yourself eating way more calorie to take you out of weight loss. Then evaluate what you are doing, Go back to basics. -
Want Sleeve but scared of no weight loss
SampTheChamp replied to starvinardis's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I just had the bypass on 12/18 and i'm doing great. I can't speak on the sleeve even though it was my first choice, initially. I have so much extra weight to lose and I wanted extra accountability so I went with the bypass. I have seen MANY sleeve people on these forums go back in for a revision to the bypass. I have no complaints. The bypass only sounds bad because of the work that is done on the inside. I promise you, as long as you have a great surgeon, either surgery will be successful. My good friend @JohnnyCakes was a good person to lean on as far as understanding and not letting the "bypass" word add more fear than it needed to be. There are risks with any surgery. I have no regrets. I definitely wish you good luck as you start a new chapter in life. -
Water and sleeve stretching
Healthy_life2 replied to NewChiGirl's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Big debate on if you can stretch your sleeve. Very few people need a revision..Enough said. A couple gulps and you feel uncomfortable. To me, it sounds like you are feeling the restriction from your surgery. I distance run. I can't chug or gulp water at the aid/refueling stations on the route. I feel the same sensation you are describing. Stop gulping and chugging water. Start sipping. -
May’17 sleever here, UIC Dr. Hassan Band to Vsg revision: 5/23/17 HW: 315+ Starting weight: 294 Surgery Day: 281 Current: 219 Goal 170
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I’m about 7 months out and should probably know the answer to this question...BUT can you stretch your sleeve with liquids or chugging water? Sometimes I feel uncomfortable after a couple of gulps and then get worried... Thanks!!! Band to Vsg revision: 5/23/17 HW: 315+ Starting weight: 294 Surgery Day: 281 Current: 219 Goal 170
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Really interesting articles about obesity and bariatric surgery published January 2018
Down South Aussie replied to Meryline's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Reading through some of these it really is interesting. I was pretty set on the sleeve but then i was being told that bypass is better for diabetes so i started shifting to the bypass but i am scared stupid at the idea of having a 30 - 50 cc pouch to start off with. Now reading the article that took 3 different studies and combined the results and discussed the weight loss vs comorbidites resolution vs surgical revision and it is interesting that the deciding factor is actually more along the lines of those who have had GERD more than those who have diabetes. Interestingly enough the 5 year mark show only a very little favor toward bypass in weight loss and even then by a margin that is statistically too small to say there is a statistical difference (absolute difference of 7.2%). Much more to think about now. I'm just starting this journey so we will shall yet see which route it takes me. -
I feel your pain! I had my torture device band revised (same surgery) to gastric bypass in July as an emergency surgery. I feel great now, no more pain, throwing up, etc.! Good luck with your surgeries! I’m on Medicare with a BCBS supplement and it was 100% paid.
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I had my Lapband January, 2011 - it was nothing but problems the entire time. I had too much restriction the entire time and the weight gain. The last three, or so, years of that torture device, I was unable to eat and in doubled over pain most of the time. I also developed severe GERD. My gastro referred me to a different Bariatric doctor. Long story short - the Lapband caused multiple problems and I had to have an emergency revision to gastric bypass. Dr. Did not recommend the sleeve for me because a high percentage of patients that already have GERD, it makes it worse. Please see another doctor before your situation gets worse like mine did. I don’t think you will be sorry with a revision to sleeve or bypass. It was a wonderful decision for me - not constantly sick anymore!
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Hi All. One week to go til surgery! I just need to pass my echo and stress test for my heart. I had a lapband that was taken out 3 years ago. Now I am going in for the gastric bypass. Did any of you have any problems with the switch from the lapband to the gastric bypass? I have been told by the surgeon there may be adhesions/scar tissue.
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Insurance is covering mine (besides the $100 co-pay). I'm having my band removed on Feb 5th. I had no issues getting it approved. I haven't had a slip or erosion, but I had alot of inflammation in my throat and stomach, but I'm sure that's due to the fact that I've thrown up on a daily basis for almost 2 years because most foods were getting stuck and it progressively got worse. All the fluid is out of my band which has helped that but I've gained weight. I'm back to where I started pre band (and then some). But I would eat foods that I knew I could tolerate (which were typically not the best choices....but I was hungry and tired of vomiting). My surgeon won't do the revision at the same time....so I have to wait 3 months to have that done (pending insurance approval for that one). I wish you the best of luck!
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I hear ya. I'm starting the process for insurance approval for the revision I hope it's smooth sailing with them. So far I've not had any issues with my insurance (knock on wood). They approved the band removal pretty quickly. I hope this approval process goes smoothly too.