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For those on liquid diets now.
Betti Boop replied to misstvb's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thankfully did not have to do liquid diet prior to surgery. My date is next Tuesday 10/14. This is my last day of food. Tomorrow I stRt the prep phase for two days. Had my last big meal last night... Went to outback for my son and my sisters birthdays. Half a piece of salmon and half a piece of steak with veggies. My cheat was an alcohol beverage. Then we went on a 15 minute walk after dinner ... My son is so good at keeping active. He will keep me on track after surgery for the first three days. Then he goes back home. So I am getting a bit nervous and/or anxious. Bought all kinds of jello and pudding and soups to start off. The only thing I still need to get is some unflavored protein drink. Such a journey. -
I was sleeved on August 11th of this year. I had alcohol for the first time since July last night. I had an Angry Orchard Cider. It has a very small amount of alcohol, but I noticed that I got a little dizzy after drinking it. I thought dizziness was due to the fact that I was drinking it on a boat and the boat was rocking. I had another drink after I exited the boat, and I felt the same way. I don't think I'll be drinking again for a while.
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I'm curious for those who went from the band to the sleeve - with the smaller stomach - have you noticed a difference when drinking alcohol? I'm not a big drinker - I can't stomach much alcohol as it is but I'm wondering if the sleeve changes the effect that alcohol has on the body.
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@@superbariatricbabe I have been giving a lot of thought regarding how food plays such a major role in my life and how it is wrapped in my persona. Food and I are like two sides of a coin. I am thinking I will have to replace it with something else. Because many WLS replace it with other things equally as destructive such as alcohol I need to get in front of this. In my opinion it will have to be something that provides pleasure. I think I failed in all my diets in part because I was not replacing food with something else that I loved as much. Of course it may have been because I was just hungry all the time and that was torture. Any thoughts?
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My Doctor said at minimum wait 3 months. I know some on here that say theirs told them to wait 6 months or a year. I think this is primarily because alcohol is completely empty calories and usually associated with sugar that you might still be sensitive to. Remember, your body will burn the drink before it burns fat and also, there is a HUGE risk for us as overweight people to develop alcoholism post weight loss surgery. I've actually witnessed someone go through that first hand as I worked for them in home and saw her take on 6-8 beers sometimes nightly. Counterproductive after her bypass because one, beer is carbonated and two, even though she looked like a twig, she was diagnosed with fatty liver disease and likely has cirrhosis. I don't know how that wasn't stretching her pouch. Anywho, if you are talking about just a drink, I would make sure that most of your sensitivities to foods are done and over with before you test your new tummy. Never drink and drive. and last but not least .... remember you are now likely going to be an incredibly cheap date. Just sip on one drink very slowly and the effects will be felt, as soon as you feel them, I would stop drinking. If anything could make you dump, it would be a drink not sitting well.
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@@sharie24 ask your doc all docs will give you a different response various time periods one month, 2 months etc as you loose weight it will take less alcohol to get you "tipsy" doc told me to wait 20 years!!!! good luck kathy
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How long after surgery should you wait to have an alcoholic beverage?
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@@Bandista, be careful. I've been told Tylenol and alcohol are dangerous together. It's hard for me since I usually take Tylenol daily in the morning and if I have a drink in the evening I basically hope it's out of my system. We can't win. Nsaids harm your kidneys and acetaminophen harms your liver. Pick your poison. Interestingly this week I have less joint pain. Even in my hands and elbows. Weird since I had such horrific flares this summer. I know it's due to stress levels but I'm thinking it has to do with diet too. I've eaten way less processed food the last few weeks. Maybe it's had a positive effect on my inflammation. Hmm.
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@@F_it thanks for chiming in on your experience with Cymbalta. We are all so different and such bags of chemicals. Like you, I am very sensitive to drugs of any kind so my trial with low-dose Cymbalta for arthritis relief didn't last very long. I felt like I needed to give it a go and I do think there was some perceived relief, but it didn't agree with me. The first night I took it I felt like I was tripping so I backed off to a lower dose to begin -- that should have been a signal right there. The thing is, at 53 with this much pain if there's anything out there that may possibly work then I want to make sure I've at least investigated. Unfortunately we have to be our own guinea pigs sometimes. So sorry for everything you went through with the Fibromyalgia and your experience on Cymbalta. We have got to do something about these auto-immune disorders, for crying out loud! I have had horrific experiences with steroids -- in fact the overnight weight gain I had from Prednisone (ha, that just auto-corrected to "prisoner") kicked off twenty years of overweight and all kinds of other complications in my body. The arthritis has been really flaring lately and I know that has to do with the change in weather. I have been walking outdoors most and now that the temps are under fifty (we've had the thirties here, eek!) I find that cold really exacerbates the joint pain later in the day. Last night I took a couple of Tylenol -- has never done much for me -- and a couple of tequila cocktails. That is something that helps, and I figure alcohol as a drug is better than a lot of what gets prescribed by various physicians even though they generally disapprove of that. But you got to do what you've got to do! I use ice packs, too. Seems so ironic that cold makes arthritis worse yet ice packs reduce inflammation -- makes no sense!
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Need some experienced weight losers
MisforMimi replied to Flaxseed's topic in Pre-op Diets and Questions
I haven't had WLS yet but I have lost 140# in the past and maintained it for several years..prior to ending up here. I passed the 6 month supervised weight requirement by my insurance. By the skin of my teeth....At one point I had to give up the fantasy that I was gOing to drop all this weight and shift my goal to maintenance. That meant I needed to increase my exercise and gain some control over what I was putting in my mouth. It was HARD. What I hear from you...is somehow you have to gain back your sense of freedom around this requirement if you don't have the cash go to MX. The perception can be shifted to this being something YOU want versus something THEY are making you do. I have a mental block when it comes to anything feeling like authority and I rebel every. single. time. Don't let it be coming from a male or a white person, then I'm one step away from a full-on tantrum!! Needless to say, I've done many stints of therapy and a stint in recovery support groups (alcoholic dad) to work out my issues. I've found Geneen Roth helpful over the years, too. There is a reason people binge and overeat and it's usually a good one and WLS won't fix the reasons for any of us. -
4 Months post op - Need some exercise help
Ginger Snaps replied to Firefly2000's topic in Fitness & Exercise
It sounds like you're doing incredible. December 31st is 82 days away, so you'd have to average a 1/2 pound a day. That's pretty aggressive. I'd think more about why 40 pounds is so important to you. Sometimes we focus on that number on the scale so much we kind of forget why we're doing what we're doing -- not just losing weight but gaining health! Looking at your workout schedule I don't see that you have to add anything necessarily... maybe focus on really staying on task with the food choices (maybe drop the "little" alcohol?). Best wishes! -
Hi All, I am a 39yo guy living in Sydney. I had a gastric sleeve operation 4 months ago and my life has changed dramatically. I have lost about 32kg (70lb) in that time, including pre-op liquid diet and now I no longer snore, have heaps more energy and look and feel better. It hasn't all been pleasant but I should have done it years ago. My issue is that for a personal goal, I really want to lose another 18kg (40lb) by New Years Eve. My weight loss is slowing now cause I have had my dramatic initial reduction then plateau. I swim 4 times a week, boxing class and boot camp each once a week. Am looking at possibly adding a Bodypump weights class. I eat clean and don't drink alcohol much at all. I keep protein levels high and hardly ever eat pasta, potatoes or rice. I walk a lot too. Do you think another 18kg/40lb by NYE is possible? Can it be done? Would appreciate any suggestions from people on how I might do this, particularly details about which activities may yield the best results... Cheers, D.
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6 weeks post op i got a really bad flu/cold. The Nyquil that I took gave me the room spins. I thought that was pretty amusing. About 3 1/2 months post op I took a half shot of Jager to Celebrate my recent engagement and it was fine. But I would recommend having alcohol so soon after surgery. Give your body a chance to heal.
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Whey Isolate Protein is the best quality protein you can get. It's not a matter of taste. Rather, It has more SOLUABLE protein in it & Your body absorbs and metabolizes this type far better than any other. I usually get it from Vitamin World or GNC. I make a concoction-smoothie. Milk based (more protein), I toss the recommended amount of chocolate powder in the blender with Wymanns Wild Blueberries (antioxidants) straight out of the freezer (buy them in the frozen section). To that, I add Colon Cleanser (psyllium husks) to keep things moving along, *Warning! Too much will bind you & be a whole other 'situation' to deal with before you can resume normalcy with your band. I add liquid Collegen to restore/maintain elasticity, L-Glutemen (sp?) for muscle-support, Crushed Flaxseed or flax seed oil for Omega 3's (heart & brain function), liquid L-Carnitine (metabolizes fat), and Milk Thistle (supports weight loss). I take my multi-Vitamins & some hyaluronic acid (keeps joints cushy and skin taught) with the shake. Muscle Milk is good in a pinch too. Muscle Milk has a good array of vitamins & nutrients in it. They sell it pre-mixed at convenience stores with the individual drinks or you can buy it in quantity at the big box stores. They have powder too. Muscle Milk has more alcohol sugars (sweeteners) in it than whey isolate protein but if you really need to gas up quick & grab a quick meal for the road- Muscle Milk works. I always use Protein shakes as a Meal Replacement. Not something you want to gulp all day or suck down with meals as your 'drink". I don't count calories, but these shakes ARE caloric! Protein Bars are good in a pinch too. I like Pure Protein best & buy in bulk at BJ's. Great to keep a couple bars in the purse for those times when you're ravinous and won't get home anytime soon- like when you have to pop & go to work w/ no time to fix a lunch or eat breakfast. The other kind I like are "Supreme"-something found in gas-convenience stores near the candy. They're bigger & feels SO naughty because they taste just like gooey candy bars. When I get the GOTTA HAVE candy/ chocolate, I hit up a small protein bar- guilt free. Best luck in your journey.
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Hi all, check your sugar free items I had trouble at the beginning with sugar alcohol. Also had trouble with splenda items. I am doing much better now 6 weeks out. But I too ate Popsicle and fudge pops. When I would do one after another I figured out it was too much "fake" sugar at once. Also my doctor suggested the lactose pills before my Protein. Again my body has changed enough 6 weeks out that I don't need them. i had to keep changing my Protein powder until i found one that wasn't so hard on my system. Good luck it is a trial time period. I promise it does get easier.
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Just a thought of you who are planning or going to Halloween Parties you pretty much know how to handle being around the alcohol or sweet wouldn't it be a treat to take a cake or food or something that is Sugar free or healthy no one else has to know but since it will be about Halloween why not make ants on a log you know celery with penutbutter or make and a few raisins. or deviled eggs with sliced green olives with pimento in the middle for the eyes or what version ay be , now that we have these options, have fun and not worry or your favorite kind of dip modified your way , besides you dancing , talking and mingiling and moving not to even think about what can I have , that these next Holidays will be even more enjoyable than they have been in the past.
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How was your 5:2 day today?
UK Cathy replied to Oregondaisy's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I weighed yesterday and was the same as last week, not disappointed-almost relieved as we had a very busy week food and drink wise. We have decided no alcohol in the house for the next few weeks as we try to get ourselves 'dried' out before we go on holiday at the end of the month. I had a fast day yesterday and came in just under 600, not perfect but OK. Florinda your recipes sound amazing, do they taste as good as they sound as I know you have to make lots of substitutions? I'm only 5' 3" and there is no way I could get down into the 130s I would look ill, we are all so different. I am quite curvy and even as I have gone down I have retained the proportions. I'm aiming to get into the 150s and then review it. I'm still a long way off. -
27wks @ 5 days post op...70kg!..from 100kg...omega loop gastric bypass
fleabag1975 replied to fleabag1975's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Eat from the food pyramid, eat often, eat small...I eat off an entrée size plate. A typical day for me is porridge, muesli or 2 weetbix, fruit at morning tea, ricecakes x 2 with ham cheese and tomato, or baked beans on ricecakes cakes, or tin of tuna on crackers, snack on more fruit or sakata crackers, or vita wheats x 2 with filly , apple, orange, dinner I have anything from fish and veg, salmon and salad, chicken and veg, turkey breast with melted cheese and ham with corn cob... i will make a salad with low fat feta, pumpkin pieces, pine nuts, red onion and beetroot. After dinner cut up fruit like rasberries, strawberries, blueberries, almonds x 6 and put into Greek yoghurt! Yum! I never get hungry....but keep fruit on me always. I do at least 2 aerobic step class per week and 2 full on work out days at the gym. I don't drink so alcohol is not a problem thank god. Haven't had soft drink for 6 months and coping well with just water, tea and coffee....I will have lightly sparkling water but drink this over about 1 hrs so I don't get too gassy. I have had issues with constipation and have to use laxettes c often, take benefibre and drink about 2ltrs water daily, so it's a pain...but other than that have been going great. Stay away from anything that has fat and sugar. Won't risk it.... -
Bariatric surgery causes alcoholism?
bikrchk replied to Timmy2shirts's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
It doesn't "cause" alcoholism! However, sometimes patients have been known to transfer their food addiction to some other forms of addiction including alcoholism, drugs, sex, shopping, gambling, etc. This is one of the biggies the Psych is looking for when they do the evaluation required for most of our surgeries. It's something we all need to be cognizant of for sure. -
Bariatric surgery causes alcoholism?
ProudGrammy replied to Timmy2shirts's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
@@Paulajo24 congrats on you long period of sobriety (msp?) drinking, smoking - then changing to food all bad addictions which is the worse of 3 evils??? i think we all know the right answer!! 4.5ears Post op RNy!!! congrats on all your accomplishments hope alll is well @@Timmy2shirts not a dumb question as others have said some people can have cross addictions sure this can happen turning to drugs, alcohol et al no stats from me about changing addictions, but i "think" the % is small IMO your boss made yet another ignorant statement concerning WLS many people don't understand the surgery they say stupid things like "you took the easy way out" try not to let let comments made from others bother you good luck Kathy -
The beginning of my journey
RobinL123 replied to RobinL123's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Good Morning everyone, I've read all the responses to my initial post and I appreciate all the feedback. What I've learned thus far is this....don't stock up on Protein shakes before hand because I might not like them. Which brings me to another question. If I don't like protein shakes, would it be safe to say that I should invest in a protein supplement powder to mix to taste...you know, with a wine or some spirit...hehe, just kidding. If someone knows of a protein supplement that mixes well with everything that they might have purchased at GNC let me know what it's called. Also, I've read that these weight loss surgeries creates the potential for an individual to develop a drinking problem. Has anyone else ever heard of this? Why would that be? I would think alcohol would make your stomach burn. I did have a friend who went to Mexico to get the lap band surgery and I swear she lived off of White Russians for a while when she returned and had some serious problems due to no structured after care and no one watching he behavior. She got to forgo the pre care and after care and paid the price for that big time. Thoughts anyone? Robin -
Bariatric surgery causes alcoholism?
par1959 replied to Timmy2shirts's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I switch from alcohol to coffee. After trying a few drinks post surgery I have found its just not for me. I enjoy sobiety. -
Bariatric surgery causes alcoholism?
MichiganChic replied to Timmy2shirts's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Transfer addiction is "a thing". It's real and it can happen. Statistics show that alcoholism rates are higher among WLS patients than in the general population, as is divorce and other things. It's an accepted truth. I'm not sure what the statistics are, but it's a risk, not a certainty. They tell us this so we can be knowledgeable about it, and act accordingly to mitigate the risk for ourselves. I'm almost 2 years post op, and I don't drink any more than I did preop. I do shop more though - and while I'm not addicted, it is a fun pass time, and I do use it to avoid food. When I'm home all day with nothing to do, I want to eat, so I shop instead. Some people exercise, some people clean, and probably some don't do anything to distract themselves. So, your boss is probably right about her sister in law, but that doesn't mean it will happen to you. What happens to you is up to YOU. -
Bariatric surgery causes alcoholism?
VSGAnn2014 replied to Timmy2shirts's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
When WLS post-op patients can no longer soothe their anxieties and other unpleasant emotions with food, they may transfer their food addiction to alcohol, sex, shopping, gambling, drugs, cigarettes, etc. I don't know how many people suffer transfer addictions. However, they're a very well known risk of WLS. But they are NOT guaranteed after WLS for the majority of patients. But the risk is why most surgeons urge that new WLS patients don't drink for X period of time post-op. There are so many new behaviors and disciplines to work on post-op (which, if you groove them in strongly, actually WILL determine your long-term success) that you should avoid anything to derail your progress. Some people do (and some don't) follow this advice. I think that most social drinkers start to drink occasionally post-op. Like CGJ said, most people do NOT become addicted. FTR, I'm 7 weeks post-op today and have sampled alcohol twice since surgery: 1 oz. wine (at a party) and 1/2 ounce scotch (after dinner one night). I'm not sensing any urge to drink even as much as I did pre-op. -
Bariatric surgery causes alcoholism?
LipstickLady replied to Timmy2shirts's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Almost 17 months out here and while I will have a few drinks here and there, I've not become an alcoholic yet.
