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Sleeve surgery is April 12, 2023, Input please!
Arabesque replied to CountryGardens's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I think many people here would put their hand up & say they too wondered if they really needed surgery & couldn’t just do it themselves. So you’re not alone in that thinking. However, I think all of us would say we tried dieting ourselves (or with clubs, dieticians, weight loss companies) in the past with all the best intentions many, many times, yet we all found ourselves obese. Yes, you are asked to follow a liquid shake diet post surgery but it is usually only for 2 weeks, then you usually progress to purées, soft foods then solid food. It is in place solely to support your healing of your tummy. Think of the sutures & staples holding your tummy together - you don’t want to stress or strain them with coarse or dense foods. After that the diet you will be placed on encourages healthy eating of nutrient dense foods. It encourages you to consider the nutritional value of what you eat, to work at breaking cravings & old habits., to look at your relationship with food. With the diet you slowly add a greater variety of foods & increase portion sizes until how you’re eating close to your maintenance point & it is much like the way you’ll eat in the future. The pre surgery diet, which often also is shakes, is also short term & in place so you will lose some weight quickly, reduce fat around your liver & make surgery easier. For me the surgery changed my metabolic rate, gave me a new set point (the weight my body is happiest at), it adjusted my digestive hormones. Most importantly it gave me time to look at my eating & develop new habits. No other diet did that. Every other diet I felt like I was punishing myself which is why when I finished the diet I went back to eating in the exact same way I always had & the weight came back. I didn’t with this. I have a new way of looking at food & eating. I’m not on a diet. This is just the way I eat. But only you know if the surgery will be right for you & that’s okay. All the best whatever you choose to do. PS - Sorry for the long post. I guess you can tell I’m very pro surgery but that is because of the success I’ve had. -
There are lots of differences in plans for pre & post surgery. From how long each stage lasts to what you are allowed to eat or drink on each stage, etc. While the two weeks cycle is quite common many have shorter or longer stages like one week liquids or skip stages like no purée. Some find they need to stay longer at a stage or go back a stage because they’re not healed enough. I have heard of some surgeons who have encouraged their patient to move to the next stage earlier than they first required. I was on two week cycles of the three stages: liquids, purée & soft, before beginning more solid food. Liquids did not have to be clear & was allowed smooth soups & broths with shakes during the liquid stage but no juice, sugar free jello or popsicles at all. Many are allowed mashed potatoes & apple sauce during purées but I wasn’t. I was allowed herbal or green tea from the beginning. Best advice is always to follow your surgeon’s plans. It’s in place to protect & support your healing tummy & not put additional stress on it. They have developed their plan based on their theories & experiences. If you do have an issue with the stages or plan discuss it with your surgeon - never hurts to ask for modifications.
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I did the MGB WLS and I was put on clear liquids diet for a week. I was allowed to drink orange juice (without sugar), herbal teas, chicken soup without spices and reduced salt etc.
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Sleeve surgery is April 12, 2023, Input please!
tx2az replied to CountryGardens's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was sleeved on 9-1-22, one week away from turning 71. I had hernia repair at the same time. I have lost over 50 pounds and have about 20-25 more pounds to lose. I, too, said to myself "I can just follow the plan, etc and I won't need surgery." Then!!! I asked myself "How did that turn out for ya?" LOL I had not been successful in losing and keeping that same 50-70 pounds off in the past. I knew I needed another tool to be successful, otherwise I would be doing the same old thing over and over again. I did not want or need to spend the rest of my life living like that. For me surgery was the best decision I could have possibly made and it is a worthwhile journey. Best wishes to you! -
Business Travel after ESG
Toesinthewater replied to Mrs Roz's topic in Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty Forum
I had ESG in 2020. You should be fine two weeks out. You will notice fatigue due to your decreased calorie intake so plan for that. Also, meals maybe a bit of a challenge depending on your food restrictions but doable. -
Anyone have the hiatal hernia repair with gastric bypass?
Smanky replied to PaperFlowers's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Yep, I had a hiatal hernia repair with my bypass. It was unexpected - I had no idea I had one (but in hindsight it explained a lot!) and neither did my surgeon until he got in there. My hernia was a large one, and had been forming for a long, long time apparently 😬. I honestly felt like I'd been hit by a truck for a good two weeks after surgery. My incisions were fine, but my insides took time to settle down. I slept with a pillow protecting my abdomen for a while. Pain medication kept it manageable, though. Once healed it was all smooth sailing though. Just gotta weather those first weeks while you're healing. -
Best wishes for a smooth operation and recovery, so happy for you! I had my pre-op consent visit today, surgery three weeks from now on 3/29. Praying for all of us who have committed ourselves to major life changes - we can do this!
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March 23 buddies yet?
GeorgieLynn replied to ceri84's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My bag is packed, ready to go. Check In at the hospital at 5:30 tomorrow morning. It is hard to believe that I have come this far already and the day is finally here. Although I know this journey has only just begun I have to celebrate the small successes along the way of making the decision to make a change, seeking help, making a true commitment, sticking to the plan, working the program, working on me and recommitting each and every day to keep loving me and working to improve me. We all can do this! Here's to determination! Here's to LIVING! HERE'S TO US! If it is not too difficult or stressful for you, I say go and enjoy yourself but drink your protein prior and enjoy sipping on your teas, broths, etc while they eat and you all socialize. I am on day 10 of 14 and took my son to dinner for his birthday last week with family and did exactly that and was so glad that I went and enjoyed myself. It didn't bother me at all nor anyone else as they understood (many of whom I didn't feel the need to explain the full situation but simply if asked why I wasn't eating I explained I had an upcoming medical procedure and was on a very limited diet. No questions asked. Enjoy yourself! You can't stop living! This is only the beginning of life-long changes when we will not be able to eat as others do. Good luck and be strong. This is your life, live it! ❣️ -
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Nervous after kidnapping
hills&valleys replied to Blossoming1's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My surgery was in Mexico on 3/3/23 and I just returned to the States on Sunday. I had no issues but I think your safety is greatly dependent on where you are crossing the border. I had my surgery with Dr. Alvarez at EndoHospital (endobariatric.com). The hospital is blocks from the USA border crossing at Eagle Pass, TX which is a main crossing point immigrants are being smuggled by the cartels. The cartels use certain points of entry to draw the US Border Agents there so they can carry out illegal activity along other areas of the border. There was a lot of police presence on both sides of this border crossing (Eagle Pass, TX/Piedras Negras, MX) -
Length of liquid diet Post-op
Jeanniebug replied to Bandedbut's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I was on clear liquids until I had a bowel movement (which took a few days). And then I was on 2 weeks of full liquids. So, my liquid stage was more than 2 weeks. Then I had 2 weeks of pureed, 2 weeks of soft, then on to solid. So, I was 6 weeks + before eating regular food. -
Length of liquid diet Post-op
hills&valleys replied to Bandedbut's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
My post-op schedule is one week clear liquids, followed by two weeks full liquid, next one week pureed, finally a week of soft foods. So, a four week progression before solid foods. I think the longer period gives our stomachs more time to heal and establishes a habit of consuming more liquid in our daily diet going forward. Plus the longer you abstain from sugar and carbs, the less you crave them making sticking to a diet easier. -
My Dr. requires 4 weeks of full liquid diet after the sleeve surgery. This doesn't count any pre-op time. Then a week (or 2!) of pureed, followed by another 1-2 weeks of soft. I know every surgeon is different, but everywhere else I read 2 weeks of full liquid. I am guessing it is because I was self pay (US), and don't have a follow up until 4 weeks after, and even then it's only by phone, so this reduces the chances of complications? I am NOT looking for permission to do something other than what my surgeon recommends (or admonitions to stick with his guidance!) I will be discussing with the nutritionist. But I'm curious how many others are supposed to stay on liquids longer than 2 weeks? Were you given clearance AT an in person follow up? When was that? What is the follow up care of Insurance patients vs Self Pay, whether that is US or Mexico. I'm a 2 hour drive from my surgery center, and was told all follow-ups would be virtual.
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March 23 buddies yet?
hills&valleys replied to ceri84's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I also had my surgery on March 3rd. I am feeling great! I was basically out of it for 12 hours after surgery but by the night of surgery I was up and running like the Eveready Battery Bunny. I have had no nausea and only slight muscle soreness similar to if I had been doing sit-ups. I have been able to get my liquid down without issue, which includes 3 bottles of Premier Protein Clear daily so I can get in at least 60g of protein, So far, so good....I am very pleased. How are you doing? -
I had surgery in Mexico on 3/3/23. I did not go to Tijuana, having heard too many negative reviews of the Bariatric groups in that region. I went to Dr. Alvarez at Endobariatrics. Dr. Alvarez's EndoHospital is across the border from Eagle Pass, TX. I was self-pay so money was an issue but not at the expense of my health and peace of mind. Dr. Alvarez's fee is substantially less than in the USA but more than the average cost of most of the Mexico bariatric centers. The old saying "you get what you pay for" could not be more apropos. Dr. Alvarez's credentials are most impressive and his memberships in American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery (ASMBS), Society of American Gastrointestinal and Endoscopic Surgeons (SAGES), and the International Federation for the Surgery of Obesity and Metabolic Disorders (IFSO) highlighted his expertise in the field of bariatric surgery. Dr. Alvarez's facilities incorporate the EndoHospital and the EndoHotel in a beautiful state-of-the-art building. Dr. Alvarez is very accessible to his patients and the staff is professional, personable and attentive to the patient's every need. All personnel are fluently bi-lingual. Off-site, the EndoSpa provides additional pampering. I am only 5 days out and feel great. I have had no nausea and only slight abdominal discomfort similar to muscle soreness experienced from exercising. The day after surgery, I joined the guided sight-seeing tour, had a HydraFacial and a massage (yes, I was able to lie on my stomach) at the EndoSpa, and finished my outing with a visit to a restaurant for a delicious smoothie. I have heard many complaints from others as to hidden fees from some of the Mexico bariatric groups....basically holding the patient hostage until they are paid. Dr. Alvarez's fees are all inclusive with exception to any optional spa treatments the patient choses to enjoy. My words of praise seem inadequate to my experience with Dr. Alvarez! I wish you the best in your quest. As self-pay, cost is a factor; but be cautious of placing pricing over health and safety.
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My surgery has been scheduled for March 30th,. Which is super exciting! But I’m super nervous too! Any tips or words of encouragement? TIA!! 💜
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Sleeve Surgery Date is 22 March
hills&valleys replied to SymphonyOfDreams's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Good luck and congratulations on taking steps to improve your health and quality of life. I am less that one week post-op (3/3/23) from VSG. I feel great. I have had no nausea and the only pain I have experienced is similar to a muscle soreness as if I had been doing abdominal exercises. You got this! **my saving grace during the pre-op diet was kosher pickles** -
Oh y’all. It’s been a little bit since I’m been on this forum. I’m struggling with any weight loss. It’s like I’ve hit a wall for the last 3 months. This is my stats. SD 4/26/22 / SW 216 / CW 175 / GW 130 / age 50 My team has me under 700 cal and less than 20 carbs a day. I use to basically eat yogurt for almost every meal 🤷🏼♀️. But my team say I wasn’t getting enough protein and my body was probably bored and that was causing my slow down in weight. So they had me to mix things up. So I started eating more protein (meats, chicken etc) well then I started started gaining 😡. My last weight in back in January was 173. I gained up to 180 when adding back food. Now I’m down to 175 but I can’t get the scale to move. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong 😑. My hair is still falling out and I’m definitely getting my protein and my vitamin levels are good. I just don’t feel like my team believes me when I tell them I’m not going over calories or carbs. I’m just beyond frustrated at this point.
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So, out of surgery, they gave me Dilaudid. Second day in hospital was Toridol. I was sent home with Oxycodone. They said the oxy was for the nerve pain. I was also told to take 1000mg of Tylenol every 4-6 hours and not to miss a dose, let it build up. The Tylenol was for the muscle cramps and pressure. There is regular liquid Tylenol you may want to try. I was off the Oxy quick as I had no incision pain and didn’t want to get constipated as narcotics slow your digestion. I kept up with the Tylenol for a few more days until pressure subsided. By day 3-4, on nothing for pain. The gas-x I still take as the broths, protein shakes, etc can give gas. I take one in both am and pm. They also recommended Colace to keep stool soft.
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I am am self-pay, but going locally to JourneyLite. I was so close to pulling the trigger on Mexico, but I must admit that even though this is more expensive, I do not have to deal with travel, and am pretty close to the hospital. JourneyLite was definitely cheaper than the local hospitals' costs around here! By about 5k to 10k! Even though I likely do not need it, BlissCARE is available at JourneyLite. Since my insurance doesn't cover ANY weight loss surgeries or drugs, I need the peace of mind that comes with having complications insurance. My pre-op diet consists of 1 week of foods I had to buy from JourneyLite--at first I was outraged I had to buy their foods. But in the end, you know what? It is really nice to just eat their foods and not worry about anything at all. It was 1 week because my BMI was lower, if BMI was higher it would have been 2 weeks. I did start my own low calorie diet before I start the official pre-op diet. Around 1200 calories. Just to get my mind and stomach ready for the < 1000 calorie very low carb pre-op diet. I am also now weening myself off of coffee. I am *super* nervous! Surgery day will be here before I know it, and life will change for the better.
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Surgery 22 Feb. I had a liver laceration so had to be opened up. And ended up having 3 surgeries in 24 hours. Really struggling post. Have lost weight and am struggling to get daily water, protein, calories in. Anyone else had complications? I know it’s rare but just trying to connect with someone as it’s been hard. Good luck to everyone 😀
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4 weeks out and scale isn't budging
Arabesque replied to lexylynn92's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Yep stall. It may last 1-3 weeks & you’ll likely experience them again. Think of them as your body taking a break in reaction to all the stress it’s been under (the equivalent of how we may want to close the door & pulling the covers over our head when stressed). It will pass. Stick to your plan, don’t stress your body further by making more changes & it will pass when your body is ready. Oh, and stay off the scales for a few days - it will only frustrate you more. -
It can be hard at first to hit those goals. Your poor tummy is super sensitive, your taste buds may have changed (temporary) & you’re likely not hungry or interested in eating. As long as you’re close & working towards your goals it’s okay. Don’t forget your shakes & broths count as fluids too. Shakes usually are 20-30g of protein depending on the brand. Sip them just like you do your other fluids - doesn’t matter if it takes an hour or more to drink your shake. I used to add twice the water to the mix to dilute the flavour & texture of the shake & to get down more fluids. It would take me a couple of hours to drink one but it was 1/4 of my fluid & a good 1/3 of my protein goals. You’ll get there.
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Food Before and After Photos
ms.sss replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
smoked salmon cream cheese mousse atop mini potato cakes (omg so good, ate 3 and all the garnish) AND roasted beet tartare boats (not nearly as good, ate about half of one..too much "boat" and not enough beet) AND 1/2 bottle of wine, 2 espresso martinis, 1 vodka soda and a couple sips of some waaaaay-too-sweet lemonade-elderflower cocktail. -
4 weeks out and scale isn't budging
hills&valleys replied to lexylynn92's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Whenever we lose a lot of weight in a short period of time, a substantial amount of the weight loss is actually water weight not fat. To lose 21 pounds of fat in two weeks, you would have to burn at least 5,500 calories in addition to what you consumed that day. A stall is nothing more than our bodies rehydrating to normal levels. As you are regaining depleted water weight, you are actually losing fat pounds even though the scales are not moving. Don't get discouraged. Once your composition levels normalize, the scales will start registering the fat loss again. -
I had my surgery on Friday- and took a 4 hour flight home on sunday. I took off Monday and returned to work today. I am in a very relaxed hybrid work situation with minimal oversight— and make my own schedule. I dont know that id want to be sitting in work meeting/traveling two weeks out, but working in my environment is fine. I did take off two weeks for laproscopic hysterectomy in November 2022, and just dont see the need for that kind of time off right now. I will say- if i was in a more demanding situation i would make a different decision, because drinking fluids right now is a serious full time job and you HAVE to focus on that for your health.
