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I avoided alcohol for about 2 months until I was sure my stomach was healed. Now I sip a bourbon and Water and it lasts a long time! No beer no bubbly. Wine tastes like cr*p, Bloody Mary's made from scratch are YUM, don't like the premade mixes, too much salt and pepper. coffee I have drunk since day 1, limited amounts, usually just 1 cup in the morning, sometimes 2.
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I had Alcohol tonight. I get so drunk so quick now. I'm glad I'm at home and well I had some bubbly so no idea but I'm sure I fell off my diet tonight... and I had a whole box of nerds. Happy New Year!
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Alcohol as a social activity / Cash pay patients
Sassafrassa replied to joshwah's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I read an article that said after gastric sleeve surgery the body metabolises alcohol differently and it can stay in your system longer. I'm not sure about the truth / science behind this so will be asking my surgeon when I see him next. I would like a glass of something in the future but if alcohol doesn't sit well anymore etc I am not bothered... Small price to pay to be healthy and look amazing (well, I hope I end up both those things haha). -
Alcohol as a social activity / Cash pay patients
mduffield replied to joshwah's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm also pre op so I can't answer your alcohol question. However, water in a martini glass, garnished with an olive is convincing! I may or may not have tried this during the holidays, on my pre op diet. ???????? I'm self pay and I don't think it's fair to say we have any sort of "advantage" it's up to our good choices and our bodies response! however, I think due to the fact we are forking out THOUSANDS of dollars, it's a tad motivating! I sure don't want to fail. We just have a different perspective, when we personally pay the bill. -
Alcohol as a social activity / Cash pay patients
AvaFern replied to joshwah's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was a cash pay patient and I have been successful. I would much rather be cash pay because you don't have to jump through all of the hoops that insurance requires. I haven't been to a single appointment after my 3 week follow-up, I saw a dietician once before surgery, I haven't been to any support meetings, and the point between deciding I wanted surgery and walking into surgery was 2.5 weeks. Paying cash gets you in faster and if you are self-motivated is far less of a hassle than dealing with insurance. If you need tools that are provided through insurance, then perhaps that is something to consider. I tend to be fairly do-it-myself oriented, so I had no issues. As for alcohol, after the first six weeks your stomach is pretty much healed, so nothing wrong with drinking a bit. I had a few sips of champagne at 4 weeks and in the last year I've had a few nights that involved a couple shots, or a few glasses of wine, or a few cocktails. I'm not a huge drinker, so I was already a lightweight. I have not had any issues with the sleeve and drinking but I also tend to drink slowly and/or pace out the shots over the course of a night. -
Alcohol as a social activity / Cash pay patients
Inner Surfer Girl replied to joshwah's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I have no idea how to answer either question. I am pre-op, not much of a drinker to begin with, and am cash pay (but have been approved through my states vocational rehab so they are paying for the surgery). As to the alcohol, there are many discussions and opinions on this board so I recommend reading the previous discussions. (My opinion, drinking isn't worth the risk for me --- especially early after surgery). Welcome to the forum and best of luck with your surgery. -
Alcohol as a social activity / Cash pay patients
joshwah posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hello potential friends. This is my very first post on here! I am currently waiting for surgery, scheduled 1/20 and have a few questions for you. Let's get down to the nitty grity (nacho libre reference). First, I attend and host quite a few work happy hours/social networking events. I have read a lot about alcohol use and abuse after WLS so I feel pretty educated. Most people say to stick with vodka and Water if your going to drink at all. I know everyone is different but a) does it really hit you that much harder and have you experienced soberness > drunk >sober >drunk over the case of a few hours? I read one story where a lady experienced fluctuating between the two throughout one night in incremental time frames. Has any one else experienced that? Second, I cant find any statistics on this but does anyone know the success rate for cash pay patients? I have insurance however, this is not covered and I am paying out of pocket. I am not financing and paying in cash and the Dr. I am utilizing is not economical. Needless to say, it's quite an investment. I feel that (man this is going to sound douche) that since I am a cash pay patient I have more riding on the line. I feel that I have even MORE of an obligation to myself to follow through very strictly with the regimen. Thanks for any insight, especially from the guys as most of you here are of the female persuasion. Happy New Years! -
How was your 5:2 day today?
UK Cathy replied to Oregondaisy's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Ladies I need your help and support. I have put on so much weight this year and I'm frightened. I weigh 20lb more now than I did at the beginning of the year. I know it has been a tough year with unemployment, house move, renovations, death and flood but it seems I have ate my way through it all and had my head in the sand concerning the scales. It is not just the food it would seem that our weekend wine has been extended to weekdays too. I do have a plan - January no alcohol(quite common in the UK these days), back to 5:2 including eating well on the 5 days, exercise (I have booked the trainer to come back starting Tuesday). I'm going to make my weigh in day a Wednesday. So please if I don't 'report in at least one a week badger, 'shout', 'shake' me until I respond. I'm sat here on the last day of the year crying at my own stupidity for letting things get so bad. Best wishes to everyone for 2015. -
I am almost 2 years post-op and I drink a 16oz latte every morning. At first after the surgery I couldn't handle coffee at all. But eventually I started easing myself back into my morning coffee habit, the only modification is I make a latte with skim milk which I heat in the microwave. The milk buffers the acidic coffee and is yummy and comforting. I like to use a sugar-free syrup to flavor it too. Everyone is different in what they can tolerate post-op and that can evolve quite a bit as you go forward. As for sodas and carbonated drinks I can't drink them. It's like my sleeve just rejects it. However I can drink a beer, no problem. I guess the alcohol in the beer relaxes my tummy, along with the rest of me (LOL) but it is quite filling.
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Post op Diet questions?
Kindle replied to JerseyJules's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm a year out and I can consume anything except carbonated beverages. There are some things that do irritate my sleeve, though. Luckily they are all the things we shouldn't eat. Sugar, grease (fried foods), alcohol and coffee all cause gastritis for me. Sure I can eat a little of everything with no problems, but too much of those things cause a little upset and I end up taking Rolaids. Last week was especially bad. I satisfied my head with all kinds of yummy Christmas food and drinks at the expense of my sleeve. I'm actually glad to have that behind me. Now I'm back to making my sleeve happy. -
Hi there, I hear you on the worrying -- I am really trying to learn how not to bank anxiety for the future and just to live in this day only (there's a beautiful George Harrison song about that, by the way). food is complicated. I used to use it as an anchor but also at other times to transport myself and escape. Now I need to staple myself to the moment in other ways. I still have much work to do on old habits and of course the holidays put all of that into sharp relief. So many get-togethers, so much food, alcohol and people, people, people. Stress is stress, whether it's good stress or bad stress, and my initial reaction to stress is still to turn to food. I don't have to turn far because it's always there but never more so than at this time of year. My old dieter's mentality gets turned up high and I have to fight off thoughts of being "on" or "off" of a diet and just keep meeting myself where I am. Meanwhile, for the last couple of months I've wondered if I need a fill. I've had sinus issues, though, and that can make me tighter so I've been waiting it out. But I feel like I'm losing ground, that I haven't made as much progress as I'd like. I'm up a few pounds when I'd like to be down a few more. This worries me and I don't want to fall into complacency. I don't want to go back to old habits, like nibbling, grazing, etc. I called the other day and made an appointment for next Monday -- the soonest I could make work. It will be good for me to re-boot. I need to go back to having a full meal with dense Protein then counting four-five hours before having more food. Let's not forget to pat ourselves on the back for all we've accomplished this last year. And now on to the next. Another thing that comes to mind is the HALT -- never letting myself get too Hungry, Angry, Lonely or Tired. When life is a swirl of activity and there's so much going on I really have to watch out for that. Especially the Tired part. Best wishes, every one -- for a great day.
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I think for those of us (probably many of us) who have used food as our comfort to avoid dealing with anger or other emotions for a long time, suddenly not having that food is psychologically as well as physically tough. Studies have shown that eating, esp of sweets, affects receptors for serotonin, and these are very close to the receptors for drug and alcohol addiction. The more we've eaten that stuff, the more receptors our brains have made to process it all. Take the "drug" of sugar away, and it's just as bad as an addict going through withdrawal. Add that to the physical drain that major surgery takes on you, and I think being depressed after surgery is more "normal" than to not be. My 2 cents.
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No Caffeine, No Carbonated Drinks, No Alcohol, NO NO NO..
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Struggling with not eating post op
ready2livenow replied to jensjourney82's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yes. I have this problem, too. The head hunger gets to me sometimes and I become emotional. Almost like I'm grieving my old life and using food as a coping mechanism. Now that I can't eat, having to deal with all the changes without using food is difficult. When I feel overwhelmed, I come on here and read posts of success stories and others who are struggling so I can relate and gives me motivation. I've had a bunch of temptations when I'm with my friends who are eating pizza and Christmas Cookies and drinking pop. It makes me realize how food is the center of all the activities my friends and I partake in. I've thinking of going to see a professional to talk about all these emotions and situations and process them. My friend who works at an addiction facility has told me that many people who have had wls have shifted their food addiction to other things drugs or alcohol. I want to have a healthy life and a healthy relationship with food. It'll take work, but I know wls was the first step to get things check. -
December 2013 Sleever Pounds Lost Log
Kindle replied to RunningA5K's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
HW 238 SW 216 CW 141 TPL 98 TGP 88 Gained 4 pounds...pretty much what I expected since my 4 food groups last week were sugar, alcohol, fat and whatever other carbs I could cram in. I am actually happy to be back on the Protein train....my sleeve was starting to protest. -
Omega loop (mini gastric bypass) in october!
Janice1968 replied to 123Go's topic in Mini Gastric Bypass Surgery Forum
Are you drinking alcohol? I was understanding that we could not drink any alcohol for at least 6 to 9 months. What does your doctor say? -
I have only lost 5 lbs total. My only cheating was vodka and wine. Becoming very depressed my town was hit with a F3 tornado the day after my surgery. We were blessed our home was spared, but many of my neighbors have lost their homes. My disappointment about my weight is trivial in consideration of all that weren't as lucky. We lost 2 lives. One of whom cut my sons hair, very sweet girl. Please pray for my hometown, and the families who lost loved ones. And give me the strength to pass on the alcohol during this very stressful time. I'm feeling like a huge loser, only losing 5lbs. I need to see some more weight lose to boost my spirits.
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How did you do over the holidays?
amylynns replied to MommaLlama's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I did well because I can't really over eat without having extreme nausea. Eating for me now has no pleasure--it's only for nutrition. My only "cheat" I'd say was a few Hershey's kisses. No alcohol for me per my surgeon. He says none ever---but I know other patients of his who have tried it when they're about a year or more out. I don't think I'll chance it for now.- 1 reply
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Well, I survived the holidays. My surgery was November 6th, and as of today, I hit the 50 lb weight loss mark. Saturday was the hardest day so far with a big family gathering. I even had my first alcoholic drink since surgery. It must've been light on alcohol, because I was fine. How are y'all doing?
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I think you will hear different surgeons say different things about caffeine, just like you will about alcohol and other "gray area" things. I have coffee every morning, and have since probably 1 month post op. My surgeon said the concern would be that it can be an appetite stimulant. I haven't had any issues though.
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3 1/2 YEARS OUT AND NEEDS SUPPORT AND ADVISE
amore replied to proudmom's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hi! I just found this app today! I had my sleeve 6+ years ago. I did meet my goal which is 155, but I've slowly been gaining it back. Today I am up to 190. Ugh!! I was at a steady 175 for a couple of years, but I want to get back to my goal weight. I don't feel that I over eat, or eat bad foods. My problem is alcohol (beer). It's easy to drink but wasteful calories!! I need support getting back to 2008. Lol -
So if it is from alcohol - I was a little bit of a heavy drinker previous to starting this journey on the weekends- and you do have a fatty liver what do they do? Scared a little now just for anything but really being denied the surgery.
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Ahhh, more sweet toothed folks out there! Good to meet ya! Everything suggested above looks yummy, but I would throw a word of caution out there (not to seem like a wet blanket) that I make a point of checking the calorie count of those Protein bars. 20 grams of protein sounds great, but some of those bars I've seen can pack over 300 calories! sugar-free doesn't necessarily mean "low calorie"- those things are sweetened with sugar alcohols, which can be just as high in carbs as some high octane sugary stuff. All depends on what you're trying to accomplish and watch, but for me, 300 calories isn't worth it. I can be happy with one sugar free Peppermint Pattie type candy from Weight Watchers for about 60 calories... I just eat it all slow and dramatic-like, like they do on the commercials & walk a little extra on the treadmill With that being said, sugar free pudding, Breyer's Carb Smart fudge bars & Hershey's Sugar Free baking chips are awesome!
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Missing wine in wine country
IcanMakeit replied to IcanMakeit's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
The reason I am more wary of alcohol calories than I am treat food calories is that I understand that alcohol is burned first. While you're burning off alcohol, you are not burning fat. This is true for sweets as well, but to a lesser degree. This is why I don't eat sweets (with rare, planned exceptions), even when they might fit in my calorie allotment. I definitely do better when my carbs are very low, but I know this may not be true for everybody. Although I am aware of the statistics, I am not too concerned about becoming an alcoholic. My pre-surgery drinking habits were pretty lightweight. I saved alcohol for special occasions and drank very lightly when I did indulge. I expect this pattern to continue once I resume drinking. Regarding food addiction, it's true that I overate, but I believe that was mostly due to my inability to experience fullness until I was over full. (Until my surgery, I rarely felt full.) But I was always a good, disciplined dieter. I just wouldn't stay on the diet for much more than a year and my weight always came back. -
Missing wine in wine country
IronDruggist replied to IcanMakeit's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Ok, so the main reason alcohol isn't generally allowed is because of addiction. Like it or not, all of us has a food addiction. When we get rid of one addiction, there is a danger of developing another addiction, in this case alcohol. The second reason is alcohol is empty calories...there really is no nutritional value in alcohol. There are health benefits that I won't deny...alcohol in moderation increases good cholesterol. It also allows certain people on our lives to continue to exist. Keeps us employed in awful jobs. But of course, I kid (sort of...The cholesterol part is true). Just be smart, be aware of the calories in what you are drinking! But I am steadfast in my refusal to believe that alcohol calories are somehow super calories...that they defy math and cause weight gain. Time to learn moderation, kids. Have a glass of wine, balance, and enjoy the one life you have.
