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Tips/Tricks to get thru the 2 wk pre-op liquid diet??
summerseeker replied to longhaul68's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had the one with low carb veg too. 3 weeks..... I roasted them, with and without spice Made them into Thai style broths with water noodles. Made them into curry, lots of curries with cauliflower rice. Made loads of veg soups and vegetable dips Had a great variety of salads with sugar/ fat free dressings I wished I knew more veggie recipes. At the end I was so over it -
I had my 2 week post op appointments yesterday with my Nutritionist and the Dr. in charge of the Nutrition Clinic, the pharmacist and my surgeon. The Nutrition Doc put me on the bariatric scale and my body fat % is the same, so I'm losing as much muscle as fat. During the full liquid phase I was consuming an average of 534 calories a day, 66oz of water/shakes and 72.4g protein. I didn't just drink shakes, I ate yogurt 2x a day and pudding/protein too. I walked around my house quite a bit, but I only got about 2 hours of "exercise" because THAT incision was so painful the first week, and the second week somehow I triggered my back pain (the surgeon said that since it started hurting when I tried to increase my walking time, that the surgery could have triggered it). OK, that's the background. My Nutrition Doctor was disapproving of my calorie intake and told me I should have been getting at least 800 calories a day (she never told me that, my goals were 48-64oz of fluid and 60-80g protein). She said if I needed to, to sip on protein shakes during the day to bring my calorie and protein up. My surgeon said that getting less than 600 calories a day isn't unusual and not to worry about it, don't make myself eat. That I should take it easy until the episode with my back ends and then try to start walking and use some light weights to start building muscle. So, it wouldn't be a problem if I could do both, but now I'm on pureed/soft foods and as much as I was looking forward to it, I just don't want to eat. I didn't feel hungry during the last phase either, but I ate and drank as scheduled. It wasn't a problem, but it did take ALL day. Now, I get a few bites down and I don't feel full, nauseous or in pain, I just REALLY don't want it. It's confusing because I don't know how to read the signals anymore. Since the surgery, my stomach will growl and my mind says "I must be hungry" and at the same time "I don't feel hungry". So now, am I full or am I just repulsed because my tastes have changed? I used to drink plain water all the time, now it tastes bad. Do I go back to full liquids and add more shakes so I can get the 800 calories or do I press on with Phase 3 and try to find soft foods that I can make a whole meal out of and not worry about the calories? I don't feel like I can do both because while I had no problem with Phase 2, I don't think I can get the extra calories/protein while trying different foods that I may not want to eat after a few bites. I'm supposed to get at least 32oz of fluid from water, not shakes.
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Follow away It was a tough ride but utterly amazing, did Paris-Roubaix last year which was tough in other ways. Two weeks time eTape Loch Ness which is ace. It does feel good and hilly rides are a good motivator to keep going as every lb is a penalty!
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I have to have my foods with some kind of sauce in order for them to go down well. I would try adding sauces to make things more moist. This might help some. That being said, it did take me longer than my plan dictated to move from one texture food to another, so I agree with Sigh that you could also go back a stage for another few days/week to see if that helps your progress. Edit to add: my favorite sauce is a pan gravy where I use a broth or stock to deglaze and just pour that over what I eat.
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I too have felt like i needed a tiny sip of water, so no judgement. I am five weeks out. I know every plan is different, but my doctor advised going back to liquids if there is any pain eating and try again in a few days. It may be your body saying “im not ready”. No shame in that, just proceed slowly as you are comfortable.
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Any April Surgery Dates?
Loreli04 replied to rokse23's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Had Gastric By Pass April 5 th. Left the Hospital Thursday the 6 th. Doctor was concerned I wasn’t walking enough and put me on Heparin shots once a day for 2 weeks. I am walking, even took my first shower this morning. Hardest thing to deal with at this time is gas and Diarrhea occasionally. I am not sure why the Diarrhea is even happening since I am drinking mostly water. -
Right I know some of you will say.... would she ever relax but...... Im 4 weeks past op yesterday. I was doing really well on my soft diet but the last few days every time i eat it hurts. I'm chewing etc eating slow but every bite is hurting too the point I'm afraid to eat now. Even taking my meds is off putting. For lunch today i had mash potato and salmon all lovely and soft but only way i got round it was to take a teeny weeny sip of milk so it'd go down. Please don't slate me for sipping. I'm after advice not a berating! Anyone else have ups and downs like this. I was doing so well. (Still am) would water intake have an effect? If i wasnt meeting that goal? Sent from my SM-A515F using BariatricPal mobile app
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From the album: Before and After
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Mounjaro Post Sleeve!!
holmesan36 replied to la0525's topic in GLP-1 & Other Weight Loss Medications (NEW!)
I had surgery March 2021 as well. My doctor has been so supportive throughout my whole post op journey. I stalled after a year as well. We tried multiple options to jump start my weight loss again. Mounjaro has definitely been the answer. I have lost a bunch of inches and about 35 lbs so far. It has helped me digest my food easier, helps my hair and nails grow, improves my moods...I can deal with the nausea and cramping and occasional vomiting. I am currently on the 12.5 and doing good. I hope it is working for you!! -
2 weeks after sleeve.....I've neverrrr liked water. Now I'm obsessed with ice cold water!!is this a bad thing? I share your pain!!🙄
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Hi all, Been a while since I posted here but my 5 year surgiversary is coming up so thought I might… I got into cycling about 3 years ago and it’s kind of taken over my life. Went to back Belgium (where I got my sleeve) last weekend and took part in a brutal cycling event - Tour of Flanders Cyclo, 177km with 2300m of climbing on often cobbled hills. Pro’s raced many of the next day. Couple of pics below, quite pleased with myself but now focussed on losing a bit more timber - I did have a blip during lockdown and gained nearly 20kg but currently at my lowest since surgery. ~57kg off my heaviest.
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I am struggling with over eating after 10 months post op. Lost 90 pounds quick from May to October then stopped. Trick or treat, thanksgiving, Christmas, now Easter causing me to fall off the program and has carried into my daily eating. Anyone else struggling with binge eating?
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Tips/Tricks to get thru the 2 wk pre-op liquid diet??
Smanky replied to longhaul68's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was on protein shakes and one non-starchy vegetable meal per day, so a similar plan to yours. No idea why some folks get super-restrictive milk diets and others can eat solid meals, but each surgery has its own way of doing things. Yes, the pre-op diet sucks, the cold-turkey off sugar addiction alone is brutal. But it's only two weeks. I kept that in my head at all times - two weeks is a blink of an eye in this whole process, and by week two my pre-surgery nerves had kicked in and that nervous energy helped divert my attention. Distract yourself with anything you can. Games, cleaning, walks, books, walk-and-podcast or walk-and-audiobook. Whatever you're able to do. Drink water, keep it on hand at all times. Stay focused on why you're doing this. Make wishlists of what you want to do and wear when you start dropping those sizes. -
Am I recovering TOO fast?
Arabesque replied to JustJovi's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Everyone recovers differently & can or can’t tolerate different things at different times. Not everyone experiences temporary changes in their senses taste &/or smell. Some can drink cold drinks easily while others find warm or hot drinks easier & more soothing. Some people are advised (by their surgeon) to progress through the stages more quickly while others need to stay at a stage longer. You won’t really feel your restriction (a tightness across your chest) until you’re eating more solid foods & the nerves that were cut during the surgery are healed. The pain you initially felt would have been from stressing, straining or irritating your healing tummy. You shouldn’t use your restriction or discomfort as a signal you’ve eaten or drunk too much or too fast. Not everyone dumps. Less than 30% with sleeve & less than 40% with bypass. But it is easily managed by avoiding those foods that cause it (fats &/or sugars) which you should be doing while you’re losing weight. In time even those who do dump may find they can eat a small amount of these foods without issue. It is important to follow your plan. Remember all because you can doesn’t mean you should. The plan is in place for a reason. Initially to protect & support your healing tummy (think of all those sutures & staples holding your tummy together) & then to support your weight loss (awareness of portion sizes, calories, nutrition, food choices, reflect on old eating habits & establish new habits, etc.) Conversations with your surgeon & dietician would be of benefit to ensure you are making the best choices - behaviours & foods. If your surgeon feels you are healed enough to progress more quickly, they’ll let you know what you are able to do & eat now. I am worried you chose to eat cake at 4 weeks post surgery. It was your choice but was it a self sabotaging behaviour? Cake at week 4? What will you eat in subsequent weeks? Only you know the answer to this. Maybe a conversation with a therapist will help. And yes you will lose weight while your calorie intake is in deficit even eating cake but your focus should be on the nutritional value of what you are eating when your intake is low. Protein, protein, protein then vegetables & eventually some fruit & complex multi/whole grain carbs. -
The surgical gas is in your abdominal cavity not in your digestive system (not inside your tummy or intestines). Burping, farting & gas X won’t work. The gas rises & sits behind your lungs putting pressure on nerves causing the upper body & shoulder pain. It is absorbed into your lungs where it breathed out. Walking, marching on the spot, pumping your arms up & down forces the gas up & out (because you breath more heavily with the physical activity). Slow & deep breathing exercises can help too. It usually takes about a week for it to fully dissipate
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Tips/Tricks to get thru the 2 wk pre-op liquid diet??
mcipanda replied to longhaul68's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Love that you can have any/all non starchy veggies. Sounds like it isn’t much but it really is! For the shakes, I treated them like mini meals.. At breakfast, I made a coffee shake using latte flavored protein shakes and sipped slow. At lunch, I made a peanut butter banana chocolate milk shake with banana extract, a chocolate protein shake and PB2 peanut butter powder. For dinner, have a protein shake and some fajita seasoned sautéed veggies. For a snack, try having a strawberry banana shake (Fairlife) blended with ice. I was really afraid of the 2-week diet, but it flew by. The key is to keep it interesting. Have cauliflower “rice” with veggies, for example. My biggest worry was the doctor opening me up, seeing my liver covered in fat, then closing me up and saying “nope.” It happened to others on these forums, so the fear kept me in line. It was also a great prep experience for the weeks after surgery when you can only have liquids. Hope some of this is helpful -
Sleeve revision to MGB
Smanky replied to newlifecoming's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
First off: the rate of weight loss isn't dependent on the type of surgery. Folks who've had a MGB/Omega Loop on here have lost quickly, and I was one who lost slowly. It's the same for all surgeries. Rate of loss depends on other factors, and honestly it's fine if it's slow. I still hit goal and am now below, so the end results is what matters. I don't know where the MGB gives minimal loss comes from? I've lost 100% of my excess weight, and by kilograms, I'm half my original size. I absolutely don't regret opting for the MGB over the Sleeve. Took about fourteen months to reach goal, at a pretty steady clip. I was someone who stalled frequently, so it took patience and staying off the scale for a lot of it. But again - this is just me. No real complications beyond a tendency to develop ulcers, but I had raging GERD pre-surgery, and have a bile pool in the bottom of my new stomach, so there's specific me-related stuff going on that isn't necessarily to do with the surgery. I have issues with digestion and my liver misbehaving that pre-date my surgery. No dumping. I do get mild foamies, but they're a minor inconvenience versus proper full-tilt foamies others get. The restriction is excellent, and my labs are all consistently good so my supplement intake is working. I absolutely think it's worth it and couldn't be happier with my choice. -
Tips/Tricks to get thru the 2 wk pre-op liquid diet??
longhaul68 posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I’m starting my 2 week liquid diet on 4/12 and feeling unsure I’ll be able to manage it. My RNY is 4/26 and the nutritionist is allowing me any and all non-starchy vegetables but dear lord…will bone broth and protein shakes hold down the beast within?? I’ve lost about 13 lbs since January with just very clean high protein eating. HW- 276 CW- 263 and 5’8”. Why do some programs allow lean chicken at dinner and others are so adamant about liquids/purées? Anyone have any tips/tricks to get thru this period? Very excited for this lifestyle turnaround! Thanks in advance for any advice :) -
I am new and have looked over every thread and searched every which way. I am 3 of 6 supervised diet program and keep gaining. I do not understand why. I am eating right, no cheating, exercising to the best of my ability (i get horrible headaches and dizzy), taking the vitamins but still gaining. I have Carefirst BCBS VA and looked at the medical policies required for the surgery. NO WHERE does it say I have to loose weight during the diet phase. I obviously cant seem to do it alone thats why im going for the surgery. Im 5'4 with a BMI of 49.7 as of this mornings weighing. my insurance policies say i need a BMI over 40 and psych eval. Anyone have experience with Carefirst rejecting due to weight gain? I am at my limit and stressing so bad which I am sure is adding to my weight gain. Hoping for surgery in June 2023 and looking for others experience and help. thanks in advance, and I am sorry if this asked before. I havent been able to find anything with this carrier.
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Any April Surgery Dates?
See.Allie.Run replied to rokse23's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Had my sleeve yesterday. Got home this afternoon. All went well and even with a tiny cheat during my liquid pre-op diet, I lost almost 10 lbs and surgeon said it made a big difference as she was in and out in less than 30 minutes. On the bad side, I’ve been in substantial pain. Walking as much as I can but man, this gas pain is no joke. I woke up from anesthesia pretty much screaming. Every hour tho gets better and I’m finally starting to see the light at the end of the gas pain tunnel. Gas X (dissolvable) is def your friend. I also packed a bunch of stuff for the hospital and used 3 things only - my chapstick, my beloved pillow and Evian water spray, which helped with the dryness. Oh, and my toothbrush. Everything else was a waste tho. -
Hello! My name is Greg and I'm 41. I had the initial class, and my first appointment is scheduled for next Tuesday, 4/11. I have a few questions: 1. My insurance doesn't require any waiting period prior to surgery, i.e., 3 - 6 months. How early should I expect to have a surgery scheduled? 2. I have Hypertension, Fatty Liver and Arthritis. But, I have never had sleep apnea, and when given a sleep test about a decade ago, it turned up nothing. Should I expect to take another sleep test before surgery? Thank you.
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I know the title may sound odd....but hear me out. I'm 5 weeks post op, so just over a month. I don't feel "restriction" as much or as painful as i did initially. I still feel it but i feel like it's not as significant of a feeling as before. Also i feel like I can eat more than i should already without pain. I had a piece of cake the other day at a birthday and felt fine, no dumping syndrome or any issues. That was really surprising to me. Also, I don't have changed taste buds like everyone else seems to (so far). Everything still tastes the same to me! The only thing is i prefer very cold water now and before i was fine with room temperature water. Another thing about water is I feel like I can take like 2 or 3 gulps without any issue. I know you aren't supposed to and before it would hurt a bit but not anymore. I'm still losing weight though. On my date of surgery i was 195 and today I'm 174. I'm just worried that maybe I'm advancing too fast? Anyone else been through this?
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How are you feeling two weeks out? Are you back to work now?
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That's awesome ladies, congrats! I'm sitting at 85 lbs down right now. I stall out a lot but try not to beat myself up over it. My weight doesn't go up, so I consider it a win. I'm working out, and eating right and I feel like I have formed a healthy relationship with food & exercise. If you're looking for some at-home workouts I recommend Kayla Itsines' workouts. You can just search them on Pinterest for free and it all can be done at home. I have used this body guide on and off for years and I always have had success with it.
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I'm getting so frustrated, 7 months out and almost 2 months stalled
NP_WIP replied to SuziDavis's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
The support group nutritionist said that even though stalls are normal and part of the body adjusting, must stalls after the honey moon phase are due to the amount of protein we are consuming and we should start looking at macros at that point (60-80g protein anything above can become fat, 50-60 carbs net if lifting/HIIT, 30g fat). I have seen members of the group have slow losses around month 6 (less than 6lbs per month) and come back with a 15lb loss the next month. But if you are not loosing at all for 2 months, I will call the Doc and see if they can help you. I know you can send the nutritionist your food log and she can review to see if something can be tweaked.
