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Janet I feel you on being bored. This is killing me! All I do is sit here and watch TV. It sucks. I tried to read but my eyes get to tired...just not tired enough to sleep. I haven't been able to get more than about 20 minutes of sleep. The pain is a little worse today, but not by much. I feel like I have done about 300 too many situps. We took the binder off to see what I look like but I am totally covered by a bandage so I won't be able to see anything until the doctor changes the bandages on Monday. We will take pictures at that time. I have been drinking a lot but I am just not hungry. I did get over 1000 calories today and I am hoping to eat a few more in a little while. I just don't have an appetite. I am making sure that all of the foods that I am eating are all high in protein to aid in the healing. The worst part of all the drinking is all the peeing! I swear I am going to the bathroom every half hour! Speaking of which I need to go there now. I know TMI!!!! Steph I am glad to hear that you were not dissapointed with your time. I know that I always get the post run runs!!! I haven't had the issue during the run but I usually have to go right away when I am done running. Alright...enough bathroom talk. I will try to check in later

Phyll, I have seen that some are getting down. I want to say something encouraging to them, but after the last couple of weeks I seem to be spending all my encouragement on me. To the rest of you....from where I sit, just 2 months out, your progress looks great! Maybe it is discouraging to you...I understand that...but you are ALL truly an inspiration. Looking at your progress and your plateaus makes me feel like I KNOW I CAN DO THIS!! You are...and that gives me power. For those who have lost all their weight and are maintaining a couple years out, that's great...but so far from where I am that I can't find the encouragement there. You all are my yardstick. I went to bath and body works over Christmas and bought a new scent from their aromatherapy line. When I am feeling discouraged I take a shower and rub it all over me. It's called Black current vanilla and part of the sensuality line. It is glorious and makes me feel like I am WONDERFUL! It is amazing what a scent can do. I bought some hand lotion too and keep it at my desk for those times when I need a pick me up and can't hop in the shower. Keep an eye on the prize guys...you are so close to victory. How powerful and strong you all are to have taken your lives back from the evil that food had become! Revel in that. Now....I have a question for you veterans that may be TMI!!!! ALERT! ALERT!!! TMI TO FOLLOW! STOP READING NOW IF YOU DON'T WANT TMI!!!! Okay...When I was walking yesterday....all of a sudden I was passing gas right and left....honestly with every 5th step I was fluffing. Is it just me? I'm blaming it on the exercise. I hope it has a cause because had I been in public I would have been definitely humiliated! It lessened and then quit after about an hour of not walking. If this is going to be a recurring problem I am definitely going to have to find a private place for all exercise. Any insight???? Okay TMI ALERT HAS EXPIRED!! YOU ARE FREE TO CONTINUE READING. This was a test of the TMI broadcast system. Thank you for your patience. Have a great Saturday guys. I'm going to go walk again while the baby is sleeping!

I probably should get all those female tests, it has been 2 years since I had a mammogram. Last time I had calcium deposits and had to go back for a 2nd test. I don't have a cervix anymore (I know TMI) so the pap isn't as critical, but they still like to test it. I have had treatment for irregular cells. That was fun. But it has been about 5 years since I had a pap. Steph, I hope you unfill went all went well. Half the time I think I am at my 'sweet spot', half the time I am starving, and lately I have been sticking. I figure I am still going to the doc on Friday to establish myself as his patient. I'll visit with him about whether he thinks I need a fill. I know once school starts I will be hungry all the time. Got the quilt room cleaned and organized today. I will not be shopping for a while, I have enough projects and new patterns for the next 10 years. Candice, slap the man. He is being a TOTAL MAN!!! However...if he is good in bed, then keep him. Kari, I am so proud of you, I have a stack of work to do in the next 3 weeks. Tomorrow is the start day.

My connect was so slow for a while there - then had to go eat - Idol is a little boring - well I gotta see what David Cook does - He is my Fav.. OK Karri - I was just worried since you hadn't ck'd in all day... You Band Mommy is going to give you a little talking to. I agree with Phyl - I totally get the being afraid - I really really do - but with all your exercise and training for the marathon you are going to have to do one of the 2 - #1 Eat HIGH CALORIE FOODS IN SMALL QUANTITIES - OR #2 LOWER CALORIE FOODS IN LARGER QUANTITIES - My vote would be for #1 so that you can still control your portion issues. If you are hungry have a piece of fruit - or string cheese - you need the carbs for your training you need the fat for your skin and the tmi subject.. You are going to have to have energy to run 13 miles and you aren't going to get it from eating 1/2 cup of food.. And this statement - i am eating more that I was before the fill was taken out - Darling you were so tight that you couldn't eat - in something I can relate to how many cups of food do you eat per meal. I agree with Phyl you gotta relax just a tad - were you this obsessive over eating prior to the band or is it the fear that is getting to you - Since I still have restriction and If I didn't KNOW that I would have problems - look at me now I am still trying to stuff my face even when I am full - that's one reason I got on the computer cuz I haven't finished my dinner - ate all my fish - 1/2 my pasta (whole wheat 180 c for 1 serving) and haven't touched my veggies.. it's funny my band is tight at night - I wonder if it's the exercise - cus at lunch it isn't.. You are 100% more dislepend than me so chill a tad - eat some more fat you are going to do great - we are right here holding you up... Just don't go back to the foods that you ate prior to banding - those are your trigger foods.. Linda - I could totally relate to standing naked infront of the doctor - but this is their job - you aren't the 1st ex-fatty they have seen - I know that doesn't help but it's only a moment in time - next year at this time you will be so happy - And I REALLY WANT YOU AND JACKIE TO COME TO M of A... I am going to guilt you guys into it :lol: Phyl - Yes I am a bad girl :thumbup:- you guys just don't know about my bad side - I could be a crook - but I am afraid of Jail :lol: I will tell you all in person how bad I was - but I am not posting it on the internet for the world to see - there was a thread once that said - What would people be surprised to know about you .... I almost posted but - really don't want that kind of info on the web :tt2: Ruby - As stated above - I can come up with great ideas - heck you pay for the insurance and IMHO our surgeries (ps) should be covered by insurance as we have lost all this weight due to trying to get healthy and the residual fat and skin left behind is a mental problem for us which could cause us to gain the weight back.. Hugs to DH us who have lost our parents totally get his pain - for those who still have yours - call them right now and tell them you love them.. (omw I am an old jewish mother aren't I - no offense I think I was jewish in my prior life:tongue:) Oh Karri - my investment broker is in Bend OR right now (he travels to offices who needs his help) - Edward Jones - he said you are like right next door - he told me about the snow - Oh ya Phyl I was hot - I will send the heat your way - I hate being hot when I exercise and they had cleaned the ceiling fans last night and forgot to turn the one above MY treadmill on - I asked the manager about it but they didn't have anything to reach up there and the ladder was too big to bring out with the gym being full... My x made fun of me about exercising with the fan on me - he said that was the whole purpose of exercise is to sweat - but the stupid man didn't know that that's only water weight and not fat and as soon as you drink a glass of water the weight is right back- I think pple who wear those plastic suits (and they still do I have seen it in the gym) are so STUPID.... ok my obsession with eating one more bite is gone - LUCKY #7 thank you and it's 9:19 and so I gotta go make coffee and get ready for bed. Karri - You will be ok -Hugs - We have faith in you and that in it self should hellp carry you thru - It does me - your guys faith in me helps keep me on the straight and narrow.. Oh ya Ruby - I have gotten my water for the last 2 day :tt2: Sweet dreams - See ya all tomorrow....

There's no TMI around here! We talk about poop a lot! LOL!!!

Karla - do you have a stomach virus - sweetie you need to call that doctor if it doesn't stop !!! They can't fire the guy - he's an owner ;0).. Well my family drama - Andrew has moved out - we had a tiff again last night about animals - told him he needed to go.. He called right now and said he's at his mom's that he moved out - wanted to know if if I was mad = said no that I think we need a break - he said oh so you are happy (yes I am but can't say that) I said not but need some time apart - we are fighting too much - but that he had to come home 10/1 to watch the dogs cuz I was going to Vegas - think I will ask gf to come too just in case.. But you want to know what - he cleaned the house and washed down the garage (animal's poop in there) .. Though that was kinda funny thing to do if you are moving out.. So I am a HAPPY empty nester for a while - we will see how long it last ... He's welcome home - but this thing about dogs has to quit.. What's everyone doing for the 3 day weekend... Me - Tomorrow hair cut - then a little shopping at the mall - have a concert to go to Sunday (Mary J Blige) so need a sexy outfit - cuz after concert going to club to dance (well that is if the line isn't 3 miles long) Going to get nails/toes done at the new shop that just opened 8/18 here in the neighborhood.. And that's it.. LOL Andrew just called again - wants to know if I'm sad - No Andrew - I'm tired of fighting w/you... I'm fine.. _________________ Phyl hope you and Candice have a great dinner ;0) Phyl we have a new italian rest opening this weekend - when you get here - you me Earl for dinner - well if it's good - I'll ck it out before you get here - I would love to go tonite - I 'm tired plus hungry and I can afford a heavy meal - scales 135 this morning and now tmi - which we all know is important to do before the scale ;0)

Okay let's try this again....last night the internet was down, and this morning my computer decided to complete and update & shut down in the middle of my post. Phyl, you won't regret the ice pump. Everyone says they are a real life saver and keeps the swelling down, which speeds recovery. Janet, congrats on the flirt. There is nothing that makes a lady feel better than a well aimed flirt. But I agree, "Was there a ring & did you get his #? Candice, Have fun outfitting the RV! Hey if DH is too busy, you just go on your own. Head south, turn right and "Meet me in Montana". Okay love that song. Okay, now I'm tearing up. Long story...short version....wonderful guy I knew in NV, I moved to Montana, we were engaged, calls 2 weeks before the wedding....from jail, was busted for drugs, I was clueless, couldn't have him around my girls, so goodbye. Maybe he is the real reason I haven't dated in 15 years. Okay, TMI, sorry. Don't know where the hell THAT came from. whewww.... Linda & Janet, there are times that jobs stink, most of the time. Janet, if you are like me, I really like routine, a move throws everything off. Does the new boss even HAVE a reason for moving you out of your office, other than a power play? Linda, I know we went into teaching because we loved it and thought we could make a difference, but when did it change. I know for me, a lot of the time, teaching has become 'what I do' instead of 'who I am'. I don't seem to make a difference anymore. I use to, I still have cards from students/parents that I helped. Now it seems that we only get complaints. I have been avoiding thinking about school. I know that many times my heart isn't in it anymore. Well, stepped on the scale, no movement for a week. I KNOW it will change, but right now it doesn't feel like it. I'm going back to staying away from the carbs, they don't seem to fill me up, just make me hungry. Cal's are right around 1000, so just ignore me, I'm just whining. This must be where the statistics come from. I've lost 65% of my weight, feel better, so what the heck, let's get lazy. But I have all of you to remind me that this doesn't have to be it. I can make it through this....okay have I convinced all of you? Question is...have I convinced myself? Rainy day, have to go to school to sit in on more interviews. fun.

Good Morning Gang.. Thank about the pic - it's from my FL get together a pic Apples took - thought it was good so changed :0)... Yesterday got my Target Shopping done - Marshall's (got a new outfit) came home - watched t.v. napped - bbq ck and salad for dinner - took a sleeping pill around 8 so that I could go to sleep before midnite - hell I still woke up twice.. Didn't drink enough water - so had tmi issues this a.m. then spilled oj on me as I was leaving... Come to work a million email - desk full of file - I HATE MY JOB - F (i wrote the word but deleted it) THEM AND THE HORSE THEY RODE IN ON - HOW AM I SUPPOSE TO HAND 80 MORE FILE - WORK LESS HOURS - F IT - I DON'T CARE - I AM ONLY ONE PERSON NOT 1.5... Ok done venting - Thrusday is my baby's 19th bday - As of yesterday these are the plans - Wed he's going out - Thursday having lunch w/Mom and taking him shopping - Thursday nite - dinner & cake at home - Friday nite we are going out to dinner celebrate bday... Karla - sound like things are moving on - hugs on the truck issues - I hate car issues.. Phyl - Yep extra day light nice - but it's going to take a week for our bodies to adjust - Call the doc when you get home about the back.. Karri - have fun in Philly - you deserve the break.... Candice - tell your Aunt to jump in a lake.. :0) I know you can't but think it :0) Well I really gotta go - too much work - CBL

Phyl Hugs Hugs Hugs !!! Pain is a terrible thing and the meds do usually just put you to sleep (at least they do for me) me and vicidon don't get along - so I feel for you - it makes me sick to my stomach !!! How did the pt go !!! Darling there is nothing wrong with 54 !!! I'm 54 !!! headed for 55 !!! Now that's going to be a werid # - thinking about it is depressing and look you have a whole nother yr til you get there !!! Love the Pictures - you look the same !! Karla - The car is a replacement you have coverage (well most policies I would have to read yours) but it would be covered.. We won't talk about food yesterday had soapa (sp) pasta mex style... He woke up sick - didn't go - I went target at 8 then just laid around the house until we went to the MJ concert which SUCKED SUCKED SUCKED... We left early and so did a whole bunch of others Darling don't worry about the weight right now - you aren't eating and moving and are retaining all that water - ducolax is the best for the tmi subject.. Denise Hugs why are you pbing??? Liquids Steph - You are very stressed right now - I know it makes my band tight !!! Hugs and yes I get you on someone else being the bad guy.. Linda Belated Happy Bday to Cora - Sorry about your mom - I am reading Pat Conroy new book - your mom sound like one of the characters in the book - and xnun who got married.. A real piece of work... Ok gang just a pop in - As I said my concert sucked big time - didn't do anything thing put watched tv - Andrew and I did watch this movie - Wes Craven's House on the left - something like that - it was violent but ok.. I gotta jump in the shower - talk to you all later

Candice, thanks for you advice. I'm 39 and really don't think I'm ready to go through all this crap but then again, will I ever be? Oh well. If the flashes and sweats are worse than this pain I could lose my mind. I can hardly hold Jaimi anymore because of her elbows. As for the TMI issue, you didn't gross me out, but I also know that Jeff will not even consider it. He's funny that way Love him, but some things that gross him out are so weird. I keep telling him that THAT is when it would be the best but he won't hear of it. Oh well. There's more than one way to skin a cat...LOL I'm with you though, I hope no one else reads this thread I had a good enough dinner. Stuck on it though. I guess it's time to go back to liquids for a few days. Let everything settle again. I did break and lunch liquids hoping that would be enough but no go. I'd better run for now. I need to make the tortilla roll ups for tomorrow's game. I'm glad they will be there and not here because I have a feeling I could eat a whole plate. Later ladies. Have a great evening.

Good Morning, Ladies! So you're still getting snow, Candice! I'm sure they're still getting it in Buffalo, too. Janet... hugs on going back to work. Hope the pain is less today, Karla! Going to the pool... no energy, but going anyway. First time to the pool w/o the scooter. Haven't used it in days. It's really bothering Zoey!! LOL! She loves to ride in the golf cart, but she still wants to go in the scooter and keeps sticking her nose under the cover! Thing is, if I'm not in the pool/hot tub nearly every day, I start having serious skin problems. Showers apparently don't cut it. Very red sore rash under all the skin folds... sorry, TMI!! Smearing it with gel the Dr. gave me several times a day is not helping much this time. So... at least the hot tub today. Not much energy and still coughing up junk! I"m ready to be done with this crud! Hope you all have a great day! Missing Linda and others!! Where are you???

Morning ladies, Steph, have a safe drive to Billings! It will be okay. DD#2 is coming up tonight and we are moveing everything to storage. I am hoping the sellers of the house I'm buying will let me move the big stuff in, since we will be closing POSSIBLY next week when no one can help. I am going to offer them some $$ for the privilege and hopefully they will go for it. The Radon test came back high, so I am asking for a long term test with possible remediation if it comes back high. I'm beat and sore from working in the nursery. I haven't been doing anything heavy, just cleaning up 4 inch perenial pots. But it involves sitting on a 5 gal bucket and lots of bending over. Unless things start feeling better, I am going to have to go to the docs and see about a peccuary, not what I want, but if it ends the pain, it will be worth it. I'm sick of the pain and of not being able to urinate (yep TMI) I am going to have to take Friday off, I know my boss won't be thrilled, but I don't have any other options right now. Hopefully she will understand. Life has gotten so crazy. DD#4 didn't come home last night (at least she called), so I had her furry in bed with me, but he whines when she isn't around, so not much sleep. Once I get moved I'm going to take what time I have left for personal days, and get the house together and SLEEP. I'm tired. I know it seems like all I do is talk about me, sorry. Yesterday, I was really missing my dad. All these decisions to make without his advise AND I have NEVER moved without him and his horse trailer. I want him here. It seems so weird not to have him around. Most the time, I just don't think about it. but right now I want him. The other day when I talked to mom, I heard him. I know just my imagination. But I wish I could talke to him. He always had such good advice. Oh well, life goes on even when we don't want it tooo. I can't even think about going back to work right now. Only 9 weeks left. Well best get going, TTFN

Hi gals, glad the /??$$?&&$//* site is back up, what was with that? Anyways, worked this a.m. at the clinic for one of the girls, Sat. is easy!!! Yeah and a cool $75 for my MAD MONEY Account. (aka California account) O.k. Stephanie, I`ve forgotten how old you are? dah... but what happened with ME was that the last 5-6 years of periods were really whacked out.. I`d get a period that would last for 2 weeks!! then I`d go a month, have a regular one, then 2-3 months NO periods, then WHAMM another 2 week horror... luckily for me I was on Mood stabalizers anyways for my Bi-polar so maybe that helped me eleviate the wild mood swings... but bad cramps, oh yeah. and very heavy CLOTS... so bad that I`d wear 2 super tampons + pad, and sometimes overflow that!!! I hated it at night... used to put a plastic sheet under my mattress cover on my bed... just in case. I hated surprises in the a,m. Now, Naproxen is good, as well as ibuprofen... but yup with band issues - maybe there is a better Rx choice like Karla said. Also, sorry a bit gross. ... but SEX always relaxed my uterus, so if you can swing it... sex DURING your period is awesome. ANtispasmodic, and also your body produces ENDORPHINS which make you feel better emotionally... Sorry about the TMI... my daughter still kids me about the ````Purple towel`` that I kept for just such an occasion... God, I hope nobody else reads this thread But alas, it will all pass.... it is great to be done with it all.... but now, we contend with Hot flashes and dry hoo-hoo`s.... we are never happy.

I think the reason I haven't gone totally batty was the fact that I am so freaking busy! Between my schoolwork and the work at school I don't have much time. Plus, I just slept. When I was sleeping I wasn't starving. Tomorrow is going to be the hardest. I'm going to be bored out of my mind (Food trigger!) and I can only be on clear liquids which means that I can only drink isopure. Then it is the bowel prep and all the laxatives (TMI!). But I am actually VERY proud of how well I have handled this week. I have not cheated one time! And are you kidding about public transportation in Texas??? This is the land of big oil! There is public transit within the downtown areas of Dallas and Fort Worth but the moment you get out of that zone there is nothing! It's okay...I'll have my head phones and classwork to do! Well my group for my class was supposed to have everything done tonight so that I didn't have to worry about class stuff tomorrow but one of them doesn't work on Sunday and didn't get it finished last night so now I have to wait to finalize the paper until tomorrow....GRRRR! Well I REALLY REALLY need to get my individual paper written! Karri

It sounds like you are doing great, Joan. I don't know about others who have already been banded but I am definately feeling some restriction (even though there is no fluid in my band). I am finding that it takes me so much longer to drink a protein shake (at least 30 minutes for an 8 oz shake) and in the morning when I take my vitamins (they are chewable but I drink some water afterwards) I have to wait several hours before I feel like I can even begin to drink a shake. I am happy about this because I am already starting to learn to listen to my body so that I don't feel over full...hopefully, this will help when I move to mushies next week. Also, I know this is TMI but is anyone else having trouble with diarreha? I don't know if it is just because I am on liquids but I feel like everything that I take in is just running right through me. On a positive note, I have lost 4.2 lbs since my surgery this past Thursday so I'm happy with that. Good luck to all of you being banded this week!

I went and got an unfill yesterday. I got to meet Dr. Im who I really liked!! He was really nice!! I have the flu and can't keep anything down. I thought it was the band but seriously I am still throwing up today and have the runs (TMI i know). So I am just plain sick. But my band swelled until I could not even drink water on Monday. I waited until Tuesday and realized I had to get some water in since I was throwing up so much. So I called over and asked them to take some of the fill out until I can get 100% well. I also have the whole chest congestion and cough. Pretty miserable and so glad to have some fluid out so I can focus on getting better. I still have restriction today and everything is sore. Throwing up (not PB'ing this time, really throwing up)and the band don't mix to well. I don't want to gain though I am liking being under 200. So I am doing the water. Right now I have no appetite anyway since nothing stays down. So far I am still doing ok but once I feel better I will have to be strict with the 1200 thing again. I am waiting until after Thanksgiving to go back. Sorta tired of the fill/unfill routine but don't wanna slip my band. I sorta wonder if I should revert to the sleeve at some point. My body seems to fight the band for some reason. I should have got the unfill when I saw Dr. Baggs last week but I wanted to try and make it work............. The carafate was a great idea but I could keep it down. The taste was making me naseaus so it didn't stay down. I had to go to Richmond ER though to get the unfill cause everyone was in surgery or down in Vacaville yesterday. ER was worried about me and I kept telling them this is NOT an emergency I just need some fluid out.......LOL!! But Kelly told me that was the quickest way to get an unfill :-) She actually came down and saw me in ER too which was nice!! My first trip to ER. I had to wear a mask cause of the flu thing. I am seriously hoping I don't have that pig thing!! LOL. Did I mention I got the flu shot on Thurday for H1N1 and regular flu and promptly woke up with the flu on Saturday?? I know, I know they SAY you can't get the flu from the shots but I wonder........this is the second flu this month. I must be immune by now and I hope my band forgives me for all the trauma!! LOL What a day!! I guess I got my trip to Vallejo yesterday ladies!! Sorry I didn't get to see anyone!!

John you are HILLARIOUS!!! I love when you have TMI to share lol.. Like you said its about time!! I hope your noise maker gets better... LMAO..... How awesome on the 5 lbs... I cant wait to see how you do!! Lee im glad your feeling better. Use your insparameter (sp) thing they gave us that totally helps get the gunk out too. I tried to use mine every hour or so. I was coughing up brown stuff for the first week or so. They gave me a breathing treatment because of my asthma before surgery so that had a little something to do with the brown stuff but the thing they gave us helped so much!! Im the only one on here, where is everyone!! I am so ready to get to the next stage, lookin forward to some egg salad and mashed potatoes lol...Im experiencing a little indigestion not half as bad as I used to but a little today so I am going to ask my PCP what he thinks I can do for it. Should I email Doc Who too??? The medicine I used to take for it isnt on either list in the binder so IDK... Anyways. So sad tomorrow is my last day off. I really could enjoy another week lol...

Good Morning everyone!! Day one back on track! Had a coffee for breakfst to help clear me out lol tmi! My interview ROCKED!! The guy I would work under was my ex broker at Longs, so he kept telling me man, if you handled Longs you could do this..lol so im excited we will see!! Looking at lunch, maybe some chicken or meatballs, we will see!

Hi Lee...many people react differently to MOM...however, as 'inconsistent' it is in diff people...in can 'activate' within 2 hrs...best to be at home, cause when it is effective...there is no stoppin it...sorry tmi, but very quick when it works!!! Good to see u prepping well!

jeepers . . . . is the mom working yet?? DOH sorry TMI!!

Pam- I need as much TMI at this point. my port is on my left side. so are you saying sleep on my right?

Ohhhh Candra...so can I have the 13's pleeease? hehe hehehe JOhn & some actual tmi, u 2 funny. let's see when the next brdzilla date, need me some real Candra time...hehehe Actually Pat, I would enjoy the walk, but 3/20 best 4 moi

good morning everyone, thanks so much for all the well wishes. & Chrissy you are right the first couple days are the worst. I still have pain but am feeling much better. I actually got about 5 hrs sleep last night, as opposed to 1-2 i was getting before. not gonna make it to the meeting today, still on pain meds and have no driver. But will for sure be at the next one. still keeping all my fluids down and finally passed some gas!! I know probably TMI, but at the hospital they keep asking me if I had yes thththtth will probably advance to full liquids later today, wish me luck :-) everyone going to the meeting have a great time, for all have a great day !!! Sherri

Tamra no sodium or carbs and water..............but don't drink a ton of water just before you go in!! LOL. I stop drinking anything by 9pm the night before. Just me. Oh I also have a skinny vanilla latte decaf on the way to weigh in appointments.......to clean me out!! TMI, TMI I know but it works for me............you will like Liz at the CM appointment she was really nice and talkative. I miss seeing Liz around now post op. She is someone I could work with cause she is a mix of hard but she also gets stuff pretty easy.............

Thank you. I tried not to get into TMI but still be funny.