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Any WLS will work if you learn to use it properly. Obviously, the lap-band had some inherent issues, so I'm NOT AT ALL blaming you for the regain there. But as far as surgical WLS options go, they are guaranteed to create a calorie deficit to induce weight loss. BUT - and its a big but - you have to be ready and willing to commit to the life long changes necessary to be truly successful. I am almost 5 months post-op and have lost nearly 70lbs. I'm VERY happy with my progress so far, but its not easy. Every single day I have to hit my protein, drink my fluids, take my vitamins, move my body and make a million other decisions to prioritize my health and stay on track. That being said, I would do it again in a heartbeat. My only regret is not having done it sooner. I also went the self-pay route via Mexico and was 100% satisfied with the experience. Ultimately, only YOU can decide what's right for YOU. Do your homework, really dig in to learn what it would entail for you, and then decide.
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Have you had bariatric surgery? If so when, and what type? Can you fill in the stats in your profile - that can help other people see what stage you are at. Good luck with your weight loss journey anyway - however far along you are. 🤩
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Anyone have panic attacks crying after sleeve?
JDLane replied to JennyF's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
So I didn't have this reaction personally but I was warned about it during my behavioral evaluation appointments before surgery. It's apparently pretty common to have some emotional upset after surgery. The rapid weight loss can release hormones stored in fat and in general it's a big change in your life which can trigger stuff. It's great you already reached out for help, hopefully you find some balance soon! -
Determining Goal Weight
Guest replied to suzannethemom's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
By approximation in theory but in practice I don't need to. There is no weight I could be, where eating 1000 Calories per day wouldn't cause weight loss. The other problem with weighing oneself is seen on this forum which is replete with hand wringing regarding the "three week stall" and many other issues which aren't issues at all with regard to fat loss. They are scale related aberrations. -
Anyone have panic attacks crying after sleeve?
summerseeker replied to JennyF's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yes I did, massive buyers remorse. I chose this myself and what if it ruins the rest of my life ..... I am feeling better now that I am progressing onto real food and can look after myself. I was so wobbly that my husband had to take care of everything for 8 weeks. I see really good weight loss and that is so uplifting -
This is what my doc told me as well. I don’t know how tall u are nor your starting weight, but 60 lbs was essentially 60% of my excess weight at the start of it all, which is the AVERAGE percentage excess weight loss statistic he was basing this on. I ended up losing 120 lbs, so go figure 🤷🏻♀️ How much you lose is pretty much up to you. Good Luck! ❤️
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Determining Goal Weight
Arabesque replied to suzannethemom's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Treat BMR & BMI as guides only. We, the human race, have too many differences for there to be a single one size fits all approach (bad pun I know). Age, height, gender, weight loss history, genetics, frame, muscle mass, health issues, etc. could mean that one of those numbers may be right or wrong for us. But it’s good to have a starting point. Just be flexible & realise that you may be more or less than those numbers & be perfectly fit & healthy. Whether you weigh yourself or not is up to @Pollito. You know you best. But don’t be surprised if your surgeon or dietician does want to weigh you. You don’t have to look & could ask they not tell you what the scale says. My surgeon & GP weighs me every time but my dietician never weighed me. She said it was obvious enough to her I was losing weight. Doctors like facts & figures so they can monitor change. Hence why we have blood tests & our BP, heart rate, etc. are recorded. -
My experience… sleeved on 1/22/22
huskymama replied to jaymecaye's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Dont focus on the stalls. Being almost 7 weeks out I can tell you ill go 3-10 days no weight loss then bam 3-4 days of loss then stall again. My Dr and Nutritionist bot have me weigh and measure once a week. It helps to not weigh daily - advice I also got from many seasoned people here. Focus on eating what you should, drinking fluids, and exercise. It does come off. Mine is slow but ive lost 33 pounds so far and im a month to the day put monger than you. -
most surgeons quote you the average amount that most people lose. With bypass, the average loss is 70% of your excess weight. With sleeve, average loss is 65% of your excess weight. that being said, as with any average, that's all it is - an average. There are people who fall on either side of that average. We have people on here who have lost 100% of their excess weight, and others who have only lost 20 or 30 lbs. It comes down to how committed you are. I was very committed to my program - I almost never "cheated" until I hit maintenance - and I lost 100% of my excess weight. There are several others on here who have done the same. So it really depends on how committed you are and how hard you work at it. If you want to lose more than 60 lbs, you probably can.
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November Surgery Buddies!!!
Kimberly Ruediger replied to Tristenhilpert97's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Congratulations to everyone on their weight loss journey. My surgery was November 16th. My starting weight was 255.As of today I am at 201. 54 lbs so far. Dr seems pleased by my progress but I don't know if I will feel it until I am under 200lbs. -
9 days is scary early for this. I'm 11 days and had my first tablespoon of fat free cottage cheese, chewed to nothing, just now. Many people see surgery as a good place to turn many things in their lives around which is wonderful. But it's for fat loss, nothing else. You can eat "dirty" (hate that word) and do fine. I lost a huge amount of weight and kept it off for 5 years until an unforeseen life event by eating bunless fast food burgers on a salad. It doesn't all have to be tofu and chia pudding. If that's not you it's not you. I'd dump the bread though unless you genuinely love it. Even when I was eating full tilt I used to get lettuce wrapped 5 Guys. Sometimes two of them. Bread and fries were never my bag. But if you really love bread, eat it sometimes. However, not optional: water, protein, vitamins and not drinking during and after you eat. Otherwise this is your life, enjoy it.
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November Surgery Buddies!!!
Lynoodle replied to Tristenhilpert97's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I am not sure of monthly totals, but as of Friday I am down 58 lbs. My surgery was November 9th so feeling pretty good about this amount of loss in less than 3 months. I have had a couple of short stalls but mostly I am consistently losing 1/2 pound a day. I stick to mostly protein and then vegies as tolerated before I am full. I exercise 4x a week for about 30 mins, but also go up and down the stairs in my house about 10 times a day. 😁 -
November Surgery Buddies!!!
Lynoodle replied to Tristenhilpert97's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I am not sure of monthly totals, but as of Friday I am down 58 lbs. My surgery was November 9th so feeling pretty good about this amount of loss in less than 3 months. -
Hello, my name is Mme C. I am new to this forum, so please be kind. I am not aware if this has been discussed before. That being said... At my pre- surgery Doctor assessment visit my Dr told me that the best he could predict in terms of weight loss would be 60 lbs. That doesn't even come close to what I would like to attain overall. I need to lose more than that to what I feel would make it worth my while. What do you all think? I have spinal and joint issues, as well as hip and shoulder bursitis. I realize those things may never go away, My hope is I only want to relieve some of my present suffering through MWL surgery. Thanks for listening.
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What's a salt product? What does it have to do with weight loss?
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Initial weight vs current weight
Spinoza replied to simplysmile's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Started pre-op diet at 276lbs. Surgery was cancelled for another 2 months but I kept calorie counting that whole time so in total I lost 25lbs pre-op in the end. Surgery weight 251 Date of sleeve 17 November 2021 Current weight 220 So that's 31lbs off in 11.5 weeks since surgery. 8lbs in the week of surgery then a long post-op stall that lasted over 3 weeks. I have really found a groove with my eating and am losing a steady 2lbs a week at the minute. I do drink some alcohol every weekend which I know is completely empty calories, but it's something I have chosen to do and factor in. If I stall again or once my rate of loss slows I'll probably stop it again! Hope that helps. I loved reading other people's stats pre-op and I still do really. 😍 Keep asking questions - it's a big decision, a lifelong commitment to being different, and there is such a lot of experience in this group you're absolutely right to use it. -
PNW Recommendations?
blackcatsandbaddecisions replied to blackcatsandbaddecisions's topic in Plastic & Reconstructive Surgery
Well, doesn’t look like anyone had suggestions thus far so I’ll just update my own thread 😜. I contacted Dr. Hayes and Dr. Waldorf, both in Portland, OR to see about setting up consult appointments. Both had good reviews but we will have to see how initial appointments go. My list of what to ask is: 1. Costs, and what are reasonable combinations of surgeries? 2. I have a lot of loose skin on the upper abdomen, would a traditional tummy tuck address this or is there another option? 3. I’ve read about drainless tummy tucks and I’d have a strong preference for that (don’t know why but drains really freak me out), is that a possibility and why/why not. 4. As a “far down the wishlist” idea, addressing the sad state of my cleavage post children and 175 lb weight loss would be nice. I don’t think I want implants but would like to hear a surgeons thoughts. If anyone else has any thoughts, let me know! My dream is to get consults with both on the same day (morning, afternoon) so I can take one trip. I know both surgeons are quite popular however so I may be a long time out, and coordinating like that may be a long shot but a girl can dream. -
I had a positive COVID test over a month ago! I have lost 18 pounds. I am so happy with the weight-loss. I still need to lose more. Revision was my goal. Does not look like that is going to happen! COVID sucks. Some people die or never fully recover. With my sleeve and after COVID the only thing I can eat is fish, over cooked veggies and a little rice. I don't know how to set a weight-loss goal on something that might Plateau at any moment! Has anyone experienced having COVID and been sleeved? Can you write about your experience? Thanks [emoji3059] Sent from my SM-G996U1 using BariatricPal mobile app
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I didn't bake for probably a year after surgery. My husband was on board because he really wanted to be as helpful as he could with helping me on my weight loss journey. If he wanted a baked good, he went out somewhere and bought it. I do bake sometimes now (I'm almost seven years out) - but I use artificial sweeteners, use Greek yogurt or unsweetened applesauce to replace the fat, and use something like bran to replace part of the flour. And I usually add unflavored or vanilla protein powder, too.
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Short answer, No, it is not selfish. At all. If an activity (or person, or situation, or whatever) is going to cause you anxiety then either deal while doing it or take a break from it until you can. Longer answer: i loved/love to bake. I never stopped even after surgery. In didnt eat any of it, nor did i even taste test stuff during weight loss phase (which was challenging as i always needed someone around to do it for me). BUT it was easy for me to do this because i was just not into actually wanting to eat it. i LOVED to smell it and look at it though, and watch others eat (and plate, decorate, take pictures, read menu descriptions, look up recipes, shop for baking equipment). Yes, i probably have issues lol…i am still the same way now at 3+ years out, but now I actually eat the stuff i bake, just at a fraction of the amounts i used to pre-wls. I too tried baking with sugar substitutes for a while, but in the end, i just don’t eat enough desserts to justify making a whole separate batch, as my fam is anti-fake sugar (but ha, little do they know i make my ameretti cookies with 1/2 the sugar subbed with monk fruit! Lol). but yeah, i love the idea above of teaching the fam to bake themselves ❤️ And if you see it as worth it, then make separate batches with sugar subs. Or just sub the sugar in all of it. Or…be ok with taking a baking hiatus for your own sake. Good Luck! ❤️
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Off track and in need some tough love and food/snack ideas!
ajb1029 replied to ajb1029's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Thank you everyone again for all the amazing feedback!! I have gone back to tracking all my food and found that that does help deter me from making bad decisions(not all the time but there is a definite downturn in bad decisions) when I have to input the calories/carbs that make me cringe on 1 piece of food/snack etc. I also realized the ridiculous amount of financial and emotional stress my dog is putting me through these last couple of months and for the next 3 or 4 has also affected me more than I realized(I stress eat and not good things). I have my annual with my PCP next week and am looking forward to a candid conversation about anxiety and ADD symptom management with hopes that getting my mental health back on track it will also help my mindset with the weight loss. I found an excess weight calcluator and I actually have lost 70% of my excess weight from my highest of 347lbs! So I am doing better than I thought. I am shooting for my surgeon's goal of 193 in June for my 18 month post op visit....one day and choice at a time! -
After surgery the main focus is: Water, to not get dehydrated Protein, to avoid loss of muscle mass Limited Volume while the sleeve heals, to avoid stretching your stitch line, damaging it, and causing a leak. In my case, I was on 3 days of just water (no protein).. then 4 days of clear protein (no milky shakes).. and then milky protein shakes. Dr. said not to worry about calories, just water and protein goals. I was given a calory budget after 2 or 3 months..
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I went with the sleeve because, fundamentally it does the same thing as an RNY - amount of weight loss, regain resistance, etc., but "costs" less in terms of trade offs and potential problems. The sleeve is predisposed toward GERD problems (that simply means that more people in that population will suffer from that problem than in the genera; population. In contrast, the RNY is predisposed to marginal ulcers, dumping and reactive hypoglycemia.. It is also fussier in supplement need - you can get into more trouble if you are lazy about your supplements with an RNY, while a sleeve can be closer to that ideal of getting all of your nutrition from your food, if one is so inclined (and your natural body cooperates.) Even with all the supplements in line, there is still a greater risk of iron issues or osteoporosis with the RNY as its malabsorption is focused on minerals. And, the marginal ulcer risk makes it more limited with some medications (it is the origin of the "no NSAID" rule in bariatrics - the sleeve based procedures are more tolerant in that area. If I need something stronger than the VSG, then the DS is readily available, as it starts with a sleeve and adds a stronger malabsorbing component than the RNY offers, so there is better weight loss and most importantly, regain resistance provided there if needed. Finally, there is the "Plan B" factor of what if it doesn't work for me and I have/want to revise? The sleeve is readily revisable to either the RNY or the stronger DS, while the RNY is something of a dead end procedure which is very difficult to revise (it can be done, but there are few surgeons around who are qualified to do so.) Overall, that is why I would start with the VSG and move up later if needed (or if I was starting from a very high BMI or otherwise challenging metabolic situation, I would go straight to the DS and avoid the risk of having to revise the bypass if it wasn't strong enough.)
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Determining Goal Weight
suzannethemom replied to suzannethemom's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Really? I agree that the BMI scale is flawed, but your weight should not be ignored. Your weight loss is a one of the markers of your progress after surgery. Body measurements are also important. They are going to weigh you at every follow up appointment after surgery. -
I chose bypass because it had the best loss stats and I wanted to give myself the best chance of success
