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RYGB- Limb Lengthening
Nifer72 replied to Toshab's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I'm getting ready to have this surgery done in March. Had my original RnY done in Jan of 2001. It's been 20 years. I lost 95lbs and haven't gained it back, but I still have about 100-125 to loose. Good to know that I should expect slower weight loss. -
I chose the "mini" gastric bypass (aka omega loop) basically because of the better stats in the studies (weight loss + chance of keeping it off). That it's easy to revise or reverse is an added bonus for sure, but I would've gone with RNY had this not been an option.
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How do you get your doctor to support revision?
shriner37 replied to QueenWiki's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I'd also tell him about the hernia for sure. I went back to my surgeon 7 years after my sleeve with severe hiatal hernia symptoms. He did an EGD, and as soon as I woke up told me he saw the hernia and had scheduled my revision surgery for the following week. Hernia and GERD are two very good reasons to revise to bypass as it should help with both. As others have said though, don't expect as much weight loss with the revision as with the original surgery. One other thought, I had great luck using my sleeve with a combination of time restricted feeding and keto. I only ate between noon and 6pm (lunch at noon, dinner by 6pm, no snacking) and generally followed keto guidelines. This is the insulin control diet regimen recommended by Dr. Jason Fung. I dropped 20 pounds in a couple months and found it was easy as since my sleeve I didn't have a great deal of hunger. -
March 2022 Surgery Buddies
Kelly Sweetheart replied to LilaNicole20's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
One of the things that convinced me to book the surgery was looking into why surgery is more successful than other diets/exercise programs in keeping weight off. I don’t completely understand how or why, but the surgery tends to reset your weight set point. And that’s why it’s important to maximize your weight loss after surgery, before your weight set point resets itself -
I strongly suggest waiting until the 18 month mark before even trying to get pregnant. Its great that you have lost weight so far, but once you are pregnant your weight loss will be put on hold and chances are you will never get back on track. The first 12-24 months are the prime time for losing weight with these surgeries and trying to grow a life inside you is draining! Unfortunately, I know this first hand. I had a lap band placed in August 2017 and delivered my first child in January 2019. He was basically conceived around the 9 month mark. I don't recommend it. Sent from my SM-G781U1 using BariatricPal mobile app
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1 Year Post OP and I think I am alcoholic
ReddGypsy replied to Coexister's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I'm 5 years out (2016) with GS and alcohol has been a sporadic transfer addiction since 2019 after my Dad passed away, then 2020 Covid...relationships...2021 basically LIFE to 2022. Ok, that's sugar coating... I saw it becoming a minor issue in late 2018, however, I was still working out and maintaining my weight loss. I made comments on another thread late last year about alcohol and transfer addictions after a bad night and it's now Feb 2022. I do ok..."for a while"...and then? Boom. Last Thursday I had a horrible regression into two bottles of wine, where ALL my feelings came out. They were Good, Bad and then UGLY. I'm not sure who that person was and I know that version of me can't live like that anymore. I got all my bloodwork done and know my health is stable....Got my roadmap there. This Thursday I'm starting some much-needed therapy for my mind and all these "feelings" (new or old) I didn't learn how to manage. It's time to be responsible and respect the mental with the physical...get my soul feeling balanced again. I still have my sleeve restriction and will be working on losing the 50 or so lbs I've gained over two years. I really appreciate posts like this and sharing your stories to inspire me...that I haven't failed and am not alone in some of the feels that were trapped in the "fat". -
Hi Nat theres so many great private options in the U.K. and yes it’s a lot of money! And a loan I will be paying for the next three years. But I’m so happy! I don’t regret it one bit. (Had my surgery July 2021 and i reached target weight feb 5th - total loss of 6 stone) i got a loan via my bank as the finance offering was better than the finance options the hospital was doing. So I would say just shop around for that. also I interviewed three surgeons from three of the top named hospitals before I decided which one I felt was best for me. so spend some time researching the market. I went with Mr Sutton at woodlands hospital - part of the Ramsey group. I’ve had no problems at all. After care team was top level, no complications, surgery was quick, team were amazing. No complaints one bit!! i highly recommend. Paid £10k with 2 years after care from surgeon and team and a lifetime support line (dietitian)x
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Great weight loss! How do the sweeteners in Crystal Light differ from those in Diet Coke?
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April 2022 Surgery Buddies
PurpleAngel73 replied to Crinkles's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Nice to meet you, SleeveApril82022. My surgery date is April 5th. My sister has Crohn's and didn't know if she could have the surgery or not. I asked one of the other surgeons in my weight loss clinic if she was cleared to have surgery with Crohn's, and he said it shouldn't be a problem. But, finally hearing from someone who has it too, I can now tell my sister she is good to go on getting the surgery. Have you asked your dietitian about what to eat during slim time? Sent from my SM-G960U1 using BariatricPal mobile app -
April 2022 Surgery Buddies
PurpleAngel73 replied to Crinkles's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'll be praying for you that you get yours done in April. Where are you from and what surgery are you getting done for your weight loss? Congrats on getting this far pre-op! Sent from my SM-G960U1 using BariatricPal mobile app -
Collagen supplements after surgery...chews anyone?
Arabesque replied to Flab-U-Less Forever's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
Stumbled upon this article this morning: https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-09-24/collagen-skin-care-what-is-it-how-good-is-it/100431694 It basically says the body can’t absorb the collagen found in supplements. There is no real research to support the taking of collagen except that done by the companies that make it. 🙄 The slowing of your hair loss @SummerTimeGirl could be the natural conclusion of the rapid hair loss cycle. It usually only lasts 3 or so months. It’s more likely due to your increased Protein intake than the collagen. 🙂 -
I'm both a slow loser, and a serial staller. I've lost weight post-surgery at the same rate I did when I tried the old-school calorie counting. I've never had the "honeymoon period" folk on here talk about. I've lost count of how many stalls I've had, and have just this week finally broken another three week stall of zero weight loss. Like you, I follow my plan to the letter, do regular exercise, and know I eat at a large calorie deficit. So I absolutely know how you feel! But as The Greater Fool said - you cannot compare yourself to others, and you cannot let yourself be ruled by the scale. The weight IS coming off, and if it's coming off slower, that's not a bad thing! With luck my slow rate will give my skin the best chance of bouncing back. The trick is to enjoy your own journey without worrying about others, and to celebrate your own little milestones and victories. Because they're happening.
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Collagen supplements after surgery...chews anyone?
SummerTimeGirl replied to Flab-U-Less Forever's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
You're welcome. The collagen powder I use is NeoCell Super Collagen Peptides Powder in 7 Ounces (20 day supply) off of Amazon and it's like $13. So nothing too nuts. I told my husband about this thread and what I said and he said, "I disagree. I'm seeing far less of your hair laying around the house and bathroom than before so maybe it's due to that collagen stuff." LOL But I told him I also doubled my protein intake (which the surgeon suggested) so it could be that as well. Hard to tell. Either way I'll stick with it for now. -
The stalls are upsetting but they do pass. Mostly what I have heard is 1-3 weeks but some have lasted longer. As long as your are sticking to your plan and not near maintenance though the loss will start again. Most times dropping a few pounds real quick when it does.
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How do you get your doctor to support revision?
lizonaplane replied to QueenWiki's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I think if you frame the reason you want a revision as "weight loss" it's likely you will not have much support, because weight loss from revision is often not much. Your best bet is probably to work with a therapist who specializes in eating disorders and bariatric issues. Especially since you developed pica after your first surgery. While it makes sense to get a revision if you have GERD (not sure about the hernia!), you should keep in mind that you may not lose very much. Also, you can try some other remedies for GERD, like not eating 3-4 hours before lying down, sleeping with the head of your bed elevated, etc. Good luck, and mega-congrats on losing 225lb!! -
How do you get your doctor to support revision?
QueenWiki posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Hi, I'm new! I had a sleeve in 2008 and it gave me GERD. I ended up gaining more weight than I lost due to severe anemia and pica. Then I did keto and lost 225lbs but it still isn't enough. I also have a hernia but it isn't really impactful. I told my doctor that I want revision surgery (but i didn't mention gerd or the hernia, just weight loss) and he is like, "see a dietitian." Also I do not have the same doctor or even live in the same area as I did in 2008. Literally any advice or comments are appreciated here. -
You will often have stalls of a few weeks at a time. That's the nature of weight loss. You may go up a pound or two just because of fluid balance (pooping, peeing, salty foods, etc), but it will come off again if you follow the plan. My surgery center also does not use a set number of calories. When I was 4 months out I told the nutritionist that I was eating about 800-1000 calories a day and she said that seemed in the right range. I'm 5 months out and eat about 900-1100 most days. I weigh every day that I'm home (I travel a lot). it helps me feel like I'm on track, but I don't worry if the number goes slightly up or doesn't move for a few days/week. It's normal, and I just look at the trends.
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I agree with everyone who says that the difference in the "statistical" weight loss averages isn't much, compared to the huge variation among patients with either surgery. Either way, it's up to you to do the work. If you have significant GERD, probably bypass is best. If you think you won't be good at taking your vitamins, sleeve MIGHT be better, as you are less likely with sleeve to have vitamin deficiencies and may need more supplements.
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You've heard and read this before: We all lose at our own rates. Comparing with others is just another way we've learned to beat ourselves up over weight. And, most everyone experiences stalls throughout the weight loss process. I'd bet dollars to donuts you started with less excess weight than those around you. The closer to goal you are the slower your weight loss will be. If people around you are losing more it's because they have more to lose. But today is your lucky day as I have the sure fire solution to each of these problems: Get off the scale. You won't be able to compare your weight loss which is apparently causing you some psychic pain. You won't see the depressing stalls. For the important aspects of your program there is one thing you absolutely don't need: A scale. You just need to do what you are doing, following your plan to a T. Keep it up and you will get there. The "No Scale" thing wasn't really my choice. I was too large to weigh on home scales, so I could only weigh at follow-ups. I did learn how not focusing on the scale relieved me of a lot of angst. When I could finally weigh at home I chose not to. All these years later I still don't weigh at home, now only at my annual physicals. When it comes to counting calories... Well, I never did it. My plan was to eat 3 meals per day, each of 3-4 oz protein, 1oz veggies/other. This gets you all your requirements. 3-4 oz protein 3 times per day gets you 60g of protein. 1oz veggies/other 3 times per day will not be chock full of calories. Along with the other simple dos and don'ts we are doing fine. Heck, this is still my plan. So, everything I see says you have a good plan and are following it. This is the path to long term success. Take the win. Continued good luck, Tek
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Collagen supplements after surgery...chews anyone?
SummerTimeGirl replied to Flab-U-Less Forever's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
I started powder collagen like a month ago too. That and Hyaluronic Acid. I read that to really see the affects of collagen you have to have been using it for at least 3 months. So, guess we'll see in a few months cause I gotta say, not seeing a difference in my hair, skin or anything else as of now. -
Hello all, I'm about 60 days post op. I lost 11 lbs liquid diet and 20lbs since surgery. I am feeling down because everyone around me seems to be dropping weight but me. I do the treadmill at Planet Fitness. I'm following the after surgery phases to the letter. I get 80 to 90 Oz of water a day. I've lost nothing in over 7days in fact according to the scale I've gained a lb or two. I feel my baratric team is not giving me clear guidelines. I asked nutrition how many calories per day her response is don't count calories. Huh?!?!? My nutrition team keeps saying the scale is not a true indicator for weight loss but shouldn't it move some..... I just feel down today about it. Someone help me out I don't wanna fail. Sent from my SM-A716U using BariatricPal mobile app
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Hi Natty I'm julie I had the sleeve in 2010 on the NHS I have sleep apnea and didn't lose much then decided to go to the doctors to ask for a bypass had to go through 2yrs diet and cbt I had high blood pressure sleep apnea heart failure caused by high blood pressure prolapse disc in my back and artritis in my back and both hips I had my first at Macclesfield in a private hospital and the second at Stoke University hospital they were brilliant couldn't do enough for you , just go and see your doctor and ask about weight loss surgery and could they put you forward, good luck
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Collagen supplements after surgery...chews anyone?
Arabesque replied to Flab-U-Less Forever's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
I added a collagen powder to the high protein drink I had every second day & also added liquid silica to the mix (BioCeuticals which is a practitioner quality brand - don’t know if you can get it in the US). I also did a couple of 6 week radio frequency treatments to stimulate collagen. Can I say it actually did anything to help my skin? Nope. My nails didn’t get stronger either & I still went through the har loss cycle most of us experience. I have some loose skin on my face & on my body but I did stretch out my skin being overweight so it is to be expected. We all seem to go through a stage where we all look drawn & haggard but once we get into maintenance everything seems to settle. I sometimes wonder if the actual texture of my skin improved but that is more likely down to my more balanced nutrient dense diet & being even more vigilant about my fluid consumption (& maybe regular facials ). -
Hi there. I started our roughly about where you are starting, and went with the sleeve. I am still very early on (6.5 months out) compared to others, but can comment on my experience. I'd always preferred the sleeve, but talked myself into the bypass based on online reading because I was so heavy to begin with. I was never excited about the option, until one of the surgeons I consulted with pushed me (in a good way) to reconsider why I was doing it. Obviously it was going to be my decision, but he emphasized that the statistics are just statistics, and at the end of the day it is a tool that is only going to work - no matter the surgery - if you use it properly. Neither surgery is a magic bullet. That really resonated with me, so I reverted back to my original preference of the sleeve. I would up switching practices, and when I went to the new one, they were perfectly happy with the sleeve as long as I didn't have GERD. I had to get an endoscopy to confirm that was the case. Again, I am still in the honeymoon period, but I am not regretting this choice one bit. I'm really happy with my weight loss to date (80 lbs since the 2 week pre op diet) and I feel amazing. Honestly, I feel lighter than what I actually weigh and better than I have in ages and ages. Even if I never get to a normal BMI, given how heavy I started, even getting to "just" overweight would be game changing. And, I am comfortable with the changes I made to my body, because it was what I preferred among the options I had available to me. I hope some longer-term sleevers who started at similar weights will comment. Some have had incredible success!
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we have people on here who've had great success with both surgeries. Yes, statistically the bypass yields somewhat greater weight loss than the sleeve (but we're talking 70% vs 65%, so it's not THAT significant), but stats are stats - you have people who fall on either side of those percentages - including people who lose 100% of their excess weight, and people who lose 30 or 40 lbs and then gain it all back. Honestly, I think your ultimate success has a lot more to do with how committed you are to your plan than which surgery you have.
