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@@Sharon1964 Good god, this is a big bowl of "word salad." I'm going to guess it was made by someone trolling. http://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-word-salad.html The term word salad refers to a random words or phrases linked together in an often unintelligible manner. Often, a listener is unable to understand the meaning or purpose of the phrase. Mental health issues can often be the cause of disorganized speech such as word salad. ** See: "Beg your pardon?" Conditions that Lead to Speaking a Word Salad ** Trolling, alcohol and recreational drugs Dementia Schizophrenia Logorrhea Schizophasia Receptive aphasia Anoxic brain injury Word Salad Examples ** the original post by the op and most of the follow-up The sheep languished blue trains suffer Windows books dogs hands run Run desk making dinner sunglasses menu Folders pile swimming red clouds Sadness cups coffee printer power outage Porch steps run come here Dogs sleep chicken pencil trees E-mail purple orange swims blackened Garbage pink composition solely bags speak deodorant Take sharpness filling soda cans Wetness smooth dancing sheep Horse paper handbags skipping forests play together In worlds with pencils, schools page drink slime Loving living nectar of bees of pollen and butterflies run amok Children bikes cars sliding Typing while sleeping and running while cat Over the hills, cloud blue a shelf lay fuschia Labels and rash, files are landing Wall speaks windy hot mess Brightness foresees the rug Dirty slime amidst antiquated hoopla Take shirt slam crazy bike tires in afternoon Amongst all confused working fly Sensibly effort compound bed bubble Kings sense jester realize tongues poetry Words hard journal describe impossible Religious hair coma machine idea hate Interesting hospital interpreting description extreme encounter Junction one distant fragile mine Death wretched addled else finally chant mind sea backgrounds Obey space cat disjointed languages swearing admit stranger bit dressing Picture cake chocolate rambling UFO solar here fuse barking Online signature basic color sleep ideas class Dog bike cat sat sit down under sleep jump Now later red cat boat ship house girl Word Salad on TV Word Salad is also sometimes used for comedic reasons on television, in music, movies, and other media. Some examples are: The Muppet Show's music often contains words strung together that do not make sense The Happy Noodle Boy comics by Jhonen Vasquez Hubba Hubba Zoot Zoot, a song by Carumba Worm Quartet, a comedy music act Drinking Out of Cups, spoken word by Dan Deacon Hatsune Miku's song Francium Popular website LOLCats Rutland Weekend Television's sketch “Gibberish” by Eric Idle Monty Python's Flying Circus Some of the comics of Calvin And Hobbe's A stand-up act by now deceased George Carlin included Word Salads such as “Niz fluk bwarney quando floo!” The play Dogg's Hamlet by Tom Stoppard Now you have seen a lot of different examples of word salad. Since word salad is just nonsense words or phrases, you can easily create your own examples at any time.

@@More than this hi welcome I see your in Canada the pre op testing your facing is pretty much the same as in the USA I had to do all that as well your cash price is good tho compared to here for sure lol I just want to say that a lot of Drs and regular ppl too are against WLS especially those who don't and never had a weight issue some think it's just mind over matter eat less move more etc and that's true to a point but the is an addiction in my opinion no diff than drugs or alcohol when u say to those they use substances just stop well yeah if we're that simple no one would be on drugs or alcoholics or eating too much I'm not suggesting your dr isn't a good dr but Drs are human beings with opinions feelings and judgements etc you must be able to decide for yourself and not be treated as if your a child or like your not allowed to help yourself in the way u see fit these procedures have been around for a long while now yes some have complications but most don't don't put off doing what u feel u must do to help yourself a dr advice is to guide you and be sure u have all the facts which u can do by researching as you obviously are doing and I have to say I do feel as if this dr is trying to scare you out of this based on their disapproval however it's your life your decision and you must live with the effects and limits being overweight not the dr so do what u need to do for your life and do not allow ppl or Drs to back u down its your life you get to run it hey if you can come to the states to get it done try that where ever you live see where the nearest big hospital is and see if they have bariatric programs u can probly email someone at that hospital and ask questions etc I'm about 5.5 months post op sleeve I'm in ny

This is from the FDA's press release: his is a brief overview of information related to FDA’s approval to market this product. See the links below to the Summary of Safety and Effectiveness Data (SSED) and product labeling for more complete information on this product, its indications for use, and the basis for FDA’s approval. Product Name: ORBERA™ Intragastric Balloon System Applicant: Apollo Endosurgery, Inc. Address: 1120 S Capital of Texas Hwy, Building 1, Ste. 300, Austin, TX 78746 Approval Date: August 5, 2015 Approval Letter: Will be available online. What is it? The ORBERA Intragastric Balloon System is a weight-loss system that uses a gastric balloon that occupies space in the stomach. The balloon is placed into the stomach through the mouth, using a minimally invasive endoscopic procedure, while the patient is under mild sedation. Once in place, the balloon is filled with salt Water (saline) so that it expands into a spherical shape. The balloon can be filled with different amounts of saline (from 400 to 700 cc) to best match the patient’s body structure. How does it work? The ORBERA Intragastric Balloon System takes up space in the stomach to help patients lose weight. The system is temporary and should be removed after 6 months. When is it used? The device is used in obese adult patients who have a Body Mass Index (BMI) of 30-40 kg/m2 who have been unable to lose weight through diet and exercise. It is intended to be used while a patient participates in a diet and exercise plan supervised by a health care provider. What will it accomplish? During the clinical study, the group of people who used the ORBERA Intragastric Balloon lost more weight than those who did not. The study included a total of 255 patients who were followed for one-year. During that period, 125 patients received the device and had it in place for six months. After the device was removed, they were followed for an additional six months. 130 patients participated in a 12-month behavior modification program and did not receive the device. Patients with ORBERA lost an average of 21.8 pounds (10.2% of their body weight) after the device had been in place for six months. Three months after the device was removed (9 months after device placement), patients who received the device maintained an average of 19.4 pounds weight loss. The 130 patients who participated in the behavior modification program but did not receive the device lost an average of 7.0 pounds (3.3% of their body weight). When should it not be used? The device should not be used in patients who: already have an intragastric balloon have had prior gastrointestinal or bariatric surgery have any inflammatory disease of the gastrointestinal tract have potential upper gastrointestinal bleeding conditions have a large hiatal hernia have a structural abnormality in the esophagus or pharynx have serious esophageal motility disorders have a gastric mass have a severe clotting or bleeding disorder (coagulopathy) have liver failure (hepatic insufficiency) or cirrhosis are known to have or suspected to have an allergic reaction to materials contained in the ORBERA™ system have any other medical condition which would not permit elective endoscopy have a serious prior or present psychiatric illness have alcoholism or drug addiction who are unable or unwilling to take prescribed proton pump inhibitor medication for the duration of the device implant are unable or unwilling to participate in a medically supervised diet and behavior modification program with routine medical follow-up are receiving aspirin, anti-inflammatory agents, blood thinners (anticoagulants) or other gastric irritants are pregnant or breast-feeding Additional information: Summary of Safety and Effectiveness and labeling will be available online.

Fiber is not used by the body for energy, that is why it can be subtracted from the carb count on a low carb diet. However, lots of low carbers count everything. It's a personal preference thing. I have always paid attention to the net carbs, even though all carbs are logged. I do think subtracting sugar alcohol carbs might not be the best practice. Sugar alcohols are metabolized differently by different people. To be on the safe side, I count them.

I'm surprised at the vitamin situation. Id be nervous to not take them. How do you manage alcohol? Do you drink anything carbonated? I have GERD as well and I take meds so thinking RNY might be my best option.

Just saw your video. I can only imagine that it's tough when you've gone through everything only to see the scale show numbers you don't like. One thing all the veterans around here say is that that there will be periods when the scale doesn't move like we want....but progress is still taking place. Take a look at @@Queen P photos. Amazing !!!!! Those Atkin products give me fits, too. The sugar alcohol inside don't agree with me. I've found that when I use Atkins shakes and bars that my weight loss slows down. They tend to have more overall calories than other types/brands. Best of luck to you. Hang in there. You'll be leading the way for the rest of us in a couple weeks. Hope the drain is now out and you are more comfortable.

Just for insurance... Okay, back to the topic at hand. My next guess is alcohol poisoning. Have you been drinking?

There's nothing worse then former smokers who cough like crazy when they see someone smoking, former drunks that think they have found all the answers about alcohol, and former fattys that sneer at us who remain overweight or choose a way to live longer by having surgery. I feel sorry for Chuck I think he's lonely.

HAHA bowels will explode hahahahahahaha. Yes sugar free hello and sugar free popsicles although the popsicles have 2g of sugar alcohol (i hope its not the same as sugar?)

Well, I have done this is well only I won't claim that it only took a year..ha. I have cautiously entered two true relationships since being single last few years only to find that what was under the surface, wasn't what it seemed. Relationship #1 the guy was just negative. I didn't realize until then that I don't like how I feel being with a judgmental person. I am glad I had that experience because it has become one of my litmus tests. Many months after that relationship ended, I was on a date with a guy who seemed fun until we went to a concert in the park when he couldn't resist commenting on other people. "she looks like a barely functional alcoholic" "can't believe she thinks she looks good in that" "people shouldnt bring children to loud music, that is what babysitters are for" sort of remarks about random people that i didn't even notice. I was just having fun, enjoying the music and crowd! It really hit me that I don't want to spend time with someone who looks at a crowd or situation... and just instinctually judges the details. It makes me feel bad. It was liberating to clarify this point in my mind. My real cautionary tale from someone I started seeing late this winter. Super fella, unusual character (like me!) - not everyone's cup of tea but his big negatives on the dating marketplace (avid fisher, hunter, into taxidermy which in my part of the country is seen as horrible) was no problem for me as I am a country girl at heart. I really enjoyed being with him and we did so many fun, diverse activities together... i also shared many values with him. I loved what a hard worker, ambitious and yet family oriented person he is. My friends thought he was da bomb too, he easily folded into my extended crew of pals. However, our relationship did not become intimate, which was my first sign of trouble...haha Here was what was under the hood - under all that eagerness to find a woman like me was a deep seated fear of relationships. Not just a romantic one, but i came to understand that there was baggage way way beyond carry on size that was well masked, at first anyway. When we ended it, he felt terrible, he felt like he had lied (well he had - but mostly to himself). I viewed it as dodging a bullet actually even though i was disappointed that a person who seemed so compatible might as well have been married or something for his lack of emotional availability. My point is this - by middle age alot of people know what they want and can say it. Some of them (wondering if I fall in this category actually) have gotten so dang picky there chances of having a real relationship diminishes since NOBODY meets the criteria. I am becoming okay with the idea of flying solo for the rest of my life - if it comes to that, so be it. then you have people who think they understand themselves and what they want and so carefully cultivate that image, but in truth have deep pain, history, baggage whatever you wanna call it and simply cannot go deeper then a superficial relationship. The key here is to escape early before you get sucked into it. And then, there are the clueless, who have no idea who they are, what they seek in life, who is compatible with them etc . I realize that not everyone is a self reflective as I am, but I do think there needs to be a minimum amount of assessing what the next phase of life holds. Then of course there are people who know what they want. Mr negative guy (that I had an actual relationship #1 with) had a very clear idea of what he was seeking and the primary reason we ended it is we didn't fall in love and he wanted someone to marry and spend the rest of his life with. Just hope she doesn't mind be subtly criticised every day...because i sure did!

Ill say this, people always look for permission from outside sources to resume the behavior that got them to the point they needed this surgery. It is kind of heartbreaking. People who drink a lot of beer , want to go back to drinking a lot of beer. People who drank alot of wine, want to go back to drinking wine, people who ate a lot, want to..well you get the picture. We look for validation in our bad habits. We want to know how many bad things we can "get away with", and still lose weight. Now of course some people can drink wine and beer in moderation , after they hit maintenance and will have no il effects. ,But for many doing bad things and expecting good results, is the cornerstone of failure. The difference is in what the term " moderation" means in your specific case and how that will work for you. Preach on, brother, preach on. Very well stated. Only idiots want to keep on idioting. ^^^^^^ I'm referring to those of us way away from reaching and maintaining our goal weight.....not folks that have reached their goals and are ongoing with the lifestyle they worked hard for. I'm far from being able to consider adding a drink or two back into my life. It will be a great 24 month anniversary celebration....a really nice cold draft or a rum drink. Long time from now. My surgery date isn't firmed up.....but shooting for late December 2015 or early January 2016. Depends completely on the insurance approval timing. I knew leading up to this that If I was going to consider using surgery as a weight loss tool then I'd damn well better do a lot on my own first. It didn't take a genius to figure out that alcohol and alcohol related calories were killing me in more ways than one. 12 pack of light beer knocked off while grilling.....more beer and tequila shots later on. Typical football game weekends. I had my last alcohol in April 2015.....figuring if I can't at least start with that then I was a fool to proceed with surgery. I fully agree with slb202's post. Let's face it.....many of us have been lazy and undisciplined for so long we have let that become who we are and are comfortable with it. I've got no desire to remain in that camp. I can better see now how WLS patients experience elevated divorce rates. Many go on to change and take on an active lifestyle that involves exercise and movement......they aren't interested in sitting around or gong to all-you-can-eat buffets with their spouses who have no desire to change. Only idiots want to keep on idioting.

I know, atkins is low in carbs because you subtract the fiber and sugar alcohol. The bars other people mentioned just had sugar, it didn't say sugar alcohol so that can't really be subtracted. I'm guessing you're pretty far along to be eating more then 50g carbs a day? My Dr wants us to eat as low as possible, but no more then 50g a day.

I stumbled across this website that has recipes for 200 Protein shakes. The first two/three have alcohol so avoid those obviously, but the rest I've seen dont look too bad. I hope this helps if anyone is sick of the same few. http://bariatricrevisionary.blogspot.com/p/200-protein-shakes.html?m=1 (I got so excited I forgot to post the link haha!)

That's great! And wow, 12 months?! What insurance do you have? I had to do the 6 months of nutritional training. I like that Dr. Clark doesn't put us on a pre-op liquid diet for weeks. Just the day before. The procedure for me was quick and easy. It took him 45 minutes and that included taking a piece of fat off my liver to have tested (he does this for everyone to see if fatty liver has created issues) and my recovery was 2 hours and I got to go home after the leak test and I walked and peed. My surgery was at around 0930 and I was home by 6pm. The only post-op med I was put on was pepcid twice a day, I stopped taking my heavy painkillers 3 days post-op. He later strongly suggested Vitamin ADK for me from the store. I take a Multivitamin and hair, Skin, and Nails Vitamins from Target everyday. I'm sorry to say my recovery was actually abysmal. I was incredibly weak until about a month post-op when I could start eating. The carb withdraw gave me a terrible, constant headache and forgetfulness. It resolved when I could eat. I was ridiculously nauseous leaving the hospital through the next day when the gas dissolving caused bad pain. I spent the entire first night home throwing up blood, hating life, and making my boyfriend think I was dying lol. I got a horrid rash on my torso around 3 weeks post-op that spread up the sides of my breasts, love handles, and interior of my flabby arms that both Dr. Clark and Dani, as well as my GP could not guess. I still have leftover scarring from it that is gradually fading. Dr. Clark only used 4 holes and 2 incisions and they're healing nice. The product from the store was a god send during the liquid phase. Definitely helped with Protein intake. Really when I say my experience was on the bad end of the spectrum, I'm not exaggerating. I'm not the usual example though - most people ease through recovery. Since then, Dr. Clark and all have been incredible at my post-op appointments. He answers any question for you, no matter how absurd you think it may be. He really wants us to succeed. WMU is helpful too, you get a binder to hold all your modules in at your initial WMU appointment after you're 1 month post-op. My tips would be have a comfy pillow at home ready for you, and someone home to help the first night because going to the bathroom is like I imagine playing hopscotch while drunk, very hard to maneuver if you're on the pain meds and nauseous; bonus though, there was really not much tummy tenderness. Last tip, it's hard to resist sometimes in the liquid stage and pureed from eating real food. Don't do it. I have an acquaintance that had the surgery a week before me and she started eating and drinking alcohol VERY soon after. She has lost maybe 20 pounds at the most, since and she is heavier than me starting weight. I got my surgery April 27. If you have any questions, feel free to message me. I'll answer anything you want to know.

I just went and checked some of the Atkins bars again. If you are thinking they are low carb, then you are going off the net carbs, which Atkins labels explicitly. Quest and others don't necessarily do that, so you have to do it yourself. Atkins is taking total carbs and subtracting fiber and sugar alcohols to get net carbs (I don't know about subtracting sugar alcohols as a practice, but maybe it's okay... one of my diabetic nutritionists said to only subtract half of those). If you do that with most of the ones mentioned here, you get about the same (but double check).

It took 2 weeks for my itching to go away, but mine was from the surgical glue the doc sewed me up with. If you take rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball and go over the places where the tape was it'll get the extra glue off. I'm also allergic to adhesive in tapes and bandaids.

With full liquids, you have tons of choices. You can pick up some of the Premier Protein shakes at costco, and have one of those. I like to use it as a base for a smoothie, with a banana and some ice and a tablespoon of Peanut Butter. You can have broth - lots of the tetra pack broths and stocks are quite tasty. With salt added. You can have milk and buttermilk and yogurt drinks. Could add some vanilla yogurt to the smoothie too. Tomato juice, V8, clamato with non-alcoholic beer, juices, even diet pop if you want, but we will have to give up carbonated drinks after the operation. I've run out of ideas, but with a full liquid diet, you have lots and lots of choices. Oh yes, and Jello, and popcicles, since they go back to Water once you eat them. I'm doing that too, and haven't found it too terrible for the first day. Then I have to do three days of clear liquids before surgery. That will be the hardest, I think. Let me know how you are doing in a few days!

The Combat Crunch are higher than the Quest, but I don't count Fiber carbs. Most of the Quest carbs are fiber. I also don't try to stay at 20-50g carbs for the day like some do. (I did in the beginning, but not anymore. I'm still low, but not that low. ) From what I remember, the Atkins bars were high calorie for the amount of Protein, so I was more concerned with that. If I remember right, some use a lot of maltitol, too, which is the most sugar-like of the sugar alcohols as far as glycemic index goes. That said, I didn't look at all variants of Atkins bars. I did eat some of the Peanut Butter fudge daybreak bars.

I really enjoy these ice cream bars called Enlightened. They come in six different flavours, only have about 6 grams of sugar, have between 5 - 9 grams of protein, are between 70 - 100 calories, and several grams of fibre. They're sweetened with sugar alcohol though which sometimes doesn't sit well with everyone. And they're pricey - $5 for four bars. I think they're worth it though because when eating so few calories I can't really justify eating something without protein or fibre. There's another ice cream brand called Arctic Zero which is ok but doesn't have the protein but is also low in calories and sugar without using aspartame or sucralose. I found a new brand today called Halo Top which reminds me of Enlightened when it comes to nutrition, except that it's in a pint rather than a bar. Haven't actually tried it yet.

There is always going to be concern or worry even to this very day it scares me to death that I will get big again. All you can do is focus and stick to your surgeons game plan. If the say no alcohol till month 9 don't drink at 8 months. If they say no drinking for 30 minutes after a meal - stick to it. Being concerned is more than natural but if you stick with the plan you will lose in the long run.

Hi gals! I've had a bit of computer trouble so hopefully it is fully repaired now - hoping your MRI goes well Sheryl - I had to have one on my knee soon after my sleeve surgery and I told myself I was glad that I did not have to be inside the machine because there was no way I would have fit. Luckily, it doesn't take too long. Thanks for the nice list Kim - I should save that and add my own to it. I like cleaning, organizing, labeling things - I think it is a stress reliever for me because it gives me some semblance of the illusion of control over one area of my life. Checking things off lists makes me feel like I am accomplishing something - even if they are silly things. I had a therapist years ago who considered me very ocd with my writing things down and checking them off and tried for a long time to break me of the habit - I think it only served to make me feel even more freaked out and vulnerable than I already did (I have pretty much always felt very unsafe in the world growing up with a raging sexual/verbally/physically abusive alcoholic stepdad and checked out mom.) I know that I will work on all of this stuff until the day I die and it still wont be resolved Florinda, you simply have not met the one yet - I kissed hundreds of frogs before my princely man game along, and by no means are he or I perfect, we can all find someone to love - I did not think this was possible for a long time. I never thought I would find happiness and just when you least expect it - it can arrive. I can completely identify with how you feel - I have been there.

I used it on clear liquids, and had no problems. Big thing, no carbs, no alcohol, shrink the liver. I think you are good. Good luck, can't wait to hear how you do on the other side as you begin your new life.

I stuck to green tea for 6 weeks, and now have one cup of coffee in the morning with stevia, Vietnamese cinnamon and Protein powder. Alcohol I waited three months. I have found I can tolerate wines and distilled beverages. Also tried one beer, let it sit for a while to get rid of most of the carbonation. It was OK, but just not interested in beer any more (and I was a big beer snob). Be careful with alcohol. Some find the sleeve makes them get drunk quicker. You are smaller, so your BAC level is not going to be the same after a drink. And there is a bunch of evidence that some people shift their dependence from food to alcohol after weight loss, so be careful.

Most of us were given those rules. And most of us don't follow them. Those were mine from my surgeon, also. I have severe reflux, so I try to keep the caffinated coffee to a minimum, but I do have 1 to 2 cups a day and have since about 3 weeks out. No more, no less. Caffeine is just one of those things I just wasn't willing to give up. It's also one of those grey areas for a lot of NUT's and surgeons. Some allow it, some don't. As far as alcohol, I've only imbibed twice since surgery. Once at 4 months out around the holidays (a Bloody Mary I didn't even finish) and a couple of Mai Tai's in Hawaii at a Luau at 8 months out. I wasn't much of a drinker before surgery, and now that my reflux has gotten worse, I'm pretty much choosing not to drink unless it's a very special occasion. Plus I hate drinking calories (with the exception of protien shakes). Of course I'm not advocating for you to go against your surgeons orders. But from my experience, many do when it comes to caffeine and alcohol because there's such a discrepancy on the time lines with so many surgeons.

Quality Soup helped, Isopure Protein, as much exercise and walking as you can do. The point of the pre-op liquid diet is to shrink the liver as much as possible so the surgeon has an easy route to the stomach. So no carbs or alcohol. The week before the surgery stinks, and it's not easy for the next two weeks, but it's just beginning steps on a longer journey. The rewards have been well worth it. There are many inspiring stories on this site and those stories helped me get ready and continue to inspire me to do more for my health. Ultimately WLS is a tool, you still have to do the work. But it is a very good tool.