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Lapband removed, Sleeve don, still struggling
catwoman7 replied to ChubbyChasersGirl64's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
yes - it's a lifelong challenge. I have to work at it all the time to keep the weight from coming back! -
Prior to committing to wls I considered joining a group study at a local hospital focused around incorporating a joint therapeutic medical and psychological approach to weight loss. Scheduling didn’t work out bc of my current work travel obligations but something that stuck out to me in the initial interview processes that the doctor said. He indicated that people who struggle with their weight especially those who have experience physical, emotional, or sexual abuse (all with higher prevalence those who are overweight than the population in general) often reached a point in their weight loss that they struggled to move past because they found comfort or almost protection in the invisibility that being a larger person can sometimes provide. This is something I can relate to certainly, but more to the point of your question I think having the surgery gives us a sliver of determinism - obviously there is still much work for us to do but we will most definitely lose weight compared to without it. And with that weight loss so disappears that protective invisibly that can offers victim of abuse or trauma comfort. I could see how even just after surgery this could even subconsciously raise anxiety and drum up thoughts of those past traumas. I also believe our bodies memories in places outside the brain. “What our bones know” etc. And it’s important to remember surgery is a trauma to our bodies. Experiencing the trauma of surgery itself may trigger tho use memories. I admit that I’ve dwelled on a past assault more than normal in the month since my surgery. I speculate it’s related more to the former than the latter reason, but luckily I’ve worked through it significantly in therapy in the past and know how to cope. If possible you might find some benefit from a short course of therapy to work through its. Regardless feel free to message if you ever need someone to listen. Sending love and strength.
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Recent Observations: Reverse Behavioral Conditioning
smc124 posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I’m at about a month post sleeve and beginning my third week incorporating solids. I had recent observation that found so interesting I thought I would share. I’m someone who for as long as I can remember found the feeling of a full belly to be comforting both physically and emotionally especially during colder seasons or in the evenings. Not necessarily overfull, but that feeling associated with just eating a decent sized warm meal. Since my gastric sleeve surgery I’m sure it goes without saying that as I continue to incorporate foods into my diet the feeling of food in my stomach or occasional associated nausea is more often then not one of discomfort. Now in just three weeks time I’m realizing my prior draw to food consciously or subconsciously, to achieve that warm full belly comfort is quickly being reverse behaviorally engineered due the discomfort Ive felt with eating and a full belly post surgery. It’s quite interesting how this behavioral/emotional comfort that’s likely been a significant contributing obstacle in managing/maintaining my weight over my lifetime has been an unintended but welcomed casualty of my sleeve surgery. Has anyone else experienced similar? -
I haven't - yet. But, I've mostly dealt with my past trauma. It's current (and future) issues that I need help with. Many of us use food as a coping mechanism for emotional pain - the same way an alcoholic uses alcohol, or a drug addict uses drugs. If you take away a person's drug of choice - ours often being food - then it stands to reason that we will have to deal with the issues that we've been masking with the use of food. Well, we either have to deal with the issues or we get to look forward to transfer addiction (or regaining our weight in a year). I knew that I had issues with food and that I used food as a coping mechanism. So, about 2 months before surgery, I started therapy. If you have unresolved trauma that is coming up (or that you're worried will come up) I would suggest speaking to a counselor. The surgeon works on our stomach - not our brain. And if our reason for overeating was mental, then the surgery will only help us in the short term. Eventually, our tummies will heal and we'll be able to eat large amounts of food again. And if we aren't careful, and we make poor choices, then we will regain our weight. We really need to be taking advantage of this first year after surgery, to change our relationship with food.
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Lapband removed, Sleeve don, still struggling
Jeanniebug replied to ChubbyChasersGirl64's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I'm diabetic and used Ozempic, prior to surgery and it really did a great job of jump starting my weight loss. My insurance didn't cover it and I was relying on samples from my doctor. Unfortunately, due to a shortage of the drug, I was no longer able to get samples and couldn't afford the $1000 per month it was going to cost. Thanks be to God, my weight loss has gone well since surgery. But, I totally would be willing to try the medication again, if needed. My surgeon stressed to me that "obesity wants to come back". So, I know this going to be a fight for the rest of my life. -
Just starting my bariatric journey. First appointment with the surgeon on February 6th. Pre surgery weight 233 lbs. I am 4'11".
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I panicked when I didn’t lose weight the first week too. I had a hard time with any fluids the first few days and wasn’t really able to drink much of the protein until the 5th day. You can sip on it. Do try to get it down in 15 min. In the beginning the water was more important and with so so little hydration I mostly survived on rehydration, zero Gatorade. The 5th day post op I was able to get more of the protein in. The isoprene clear protein mix was a box help with that. Not nearly as thick and rich as the premier type shakes.
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Surgery 6/21 .. hw 319 lw 237 .. current weight 257 ... I know what I do .. bad habits.. eat at night after family goes to bed ... like sneak eating ... uugghh. I feel like a failure. I paid 4500 and flew to Mexico. The loan isn't even paid off! I am encouraged to know that re-loss is possible if I get back to basics. I was very worried about stretch even though I can only hold 8 to 10 oz and 10 is really uncomfortable. Any other success stories appreciated for motivation
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Ditto with all the comments above. How many calories are you taking in daily? I, too, had no issues drinking, and I also had a lot of water weight gain due to the IV for a few weeks. It is normal.
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Slimband - Class Action Lawsuit 2020
debra.bennett replied to HMKW's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
July 2013 I thought I had the answer and after having many conversations with an employee of Slimband and stating she had the procedure done was honest enough to move me on to another employee because I was asking and trusting her personal opinion and experience. I believed she had a conscience and realized with my hesitation and state of mind, which was not in logical, healthy manner, she gave over my file to someone else who more and less bullied me into agreeing with the procedure. I have regretted this decision from the moment I had the procedure done. Even before the operation started my blood pressure was so high that they delayed it for a little time so that it could come down, but it never did. I quickly had a chat with the doctor who I felt was not coherent, spaced out and told me that I had to just watch my diet. This is not what I was told during my orientation. I realized moments before going into the surgery that I had been duped! Ashamed I never told my husband how I felt when I was in the other room having this conversation. So, because they are booked with surgeries I was rushed in, high pressure still not down, put under and woke up groggy and sent out the door. During the operation my bladder let go and therefore I had to leave the resident in a wet dress. I have experienced nothing but pain, cannot eat properly because I am throwing up so often, sometimes cannot eat for two days because food is stuck. I have not lost any weight with this procedure. They only thing I lost was 16 000.00 dollars, time from work because I am sick, avoiding events because I know that I cannot enjoy the experience of going out with family and friends in case I have to make many trips to the restroom to vomit. Embarrassment and pride and disappointment that I allowed someone take advantage of my desperation to lose weight forever or at least that is what I was told would happen. Now I just want my band removed and my money back! Shame on the doctors and Slimband as I never received any support after I left Toronto to come home east. This was a costly decision that I put a lot of consideration in and still was misled, deceived, and bullied. I wish a class action can be done to compensate me. -
it's mostly likely from the IV fluids they gave you in the hospital. It's basically salt water, which a lot of people retain. I've heard of people leaving the hospital weighing up to 10 lbs more than when they went in! It does take a few days to work it's way out of your system, so hang on. You should start dropping weight very soon. as for protein shakes, I never had trouble with drinking things from day 1. I was worried about it because we were told we'd only be able to drink a little at a time, but the PA at my clinic told me not to worry about it - that my stomach would tell me if I was drinking too fast or too much.
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I agree with @SpartanMaker. It’s not uncommon for people to see no loss or even a gain after surgery because of the gas & fluids they pump into you. Some surgeons even say don’t weight yourself for a couple of weeks after surgery. I remember I weighed a good 2kgs more 48hrs after my gall was removed & I’d barely eaten. Was just bloated. For a lot of us who struggle with the shakes after surgery it’s because the taste & texture change to us & become unpalatable. Plus I wasn’t at all hungry or interested in food. PS - Congrats on your surgery.
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it's not that unusual to see similar results. You are likely just retaining fluid post-surgery (very common), which could mask any fat loss. Give yourself time and try not to stress. The weight loss will come.
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Hi, I was sleeved on January 5th and have not lost any weight! Also, I notice that most people have a hard time drinking their protein drinks. I do not, I can drink an entire one in less than 15 mins taking small sips. The only side effect I have is being dizzy sometimes. Did my surgeon even do anything? Before Pre-op: 236 Day of Surgery:230 Currently 6 days post op:230 Sent from my SM-S906U using BariatricPal mobile app
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Great discussion. When I was a teen with a BMI of 33, I would have been on the borderline. I ended up getting down to a slightly-over-normal body weight by age 21, but spent years after that going up and down, never able to get low enough (for long enough). So in retrospect, I would not have been a good candidate yet as a teen. However, I wish I had done the surgery 10 to 15 years earlier. My own children are obese, even after our family has changed so much nutritionally (due to my changing first). I am willing to pay for my own children to have it if/when they are good candidates, and want it, when they are young adults. If they were more obese, I might feel differently about getting them considered for surgery earlier. But I wonder what the qualifications are for teens to be recommended for WLS, and if they are different than for adults. There have to be some good reasons why the AAP would recommend this for some teens, that the pros outweigh the cons.
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I've used MFP extensively but just short of paying for it. I fell off the wagon due to severe back pain and medicating with booze and carbs. I've gained 30 pounds in a year and a half. I went back to MFP but found a lot of the features are now behind a pay wall. I might just buy it but I'm thrifty. Sent from my SM-G970U using BariatricPal mobile app
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Yes, I have moderate to severe asthma and have needed to use oral steroids two times since my RNY. It can make you feel very awake at night. It does make water retention and hunger happen. I stay faithful to my plan and the extra weight comes off in a week. I hope you feel better and heal quickly!
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I'm not sure being an "adult" has the monopoly on making good choices or being able to "stick to plan" or even understanding consequences. The thousands of posts on this forum alone is a testament to that. Its a very individual thing, though i do agree that for children/teens to have surgery available to them, there needs to be the buy in of the parents or guardians, unless of course the child/teen has the resources to buy their own groceries, cook their own food, transport themselves to appts etc (which more often than not, the probably don't). i always lean on not having a hard line to things, and mostly take things on a case by case basis. Of course there will be instances where in hindsight one would rethink their decisions, but that's life i guess. Now, would i have wanted surgery available to me as teen? It's a non-issue (for ME), as i didn't join the obesity club until my 30's. Would my mother wanted it for me? No. Would she have wanted it for my sister (who was overweight all her life and obese by her 20's?). Knowing my mother, who is/was always about looks and weight, probably. But would my sister have wanted it? Would she have been able to say no to my mother if she didn't? Tough call.
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hi i would like to hear from anyone who has had weight loss surgery in belgium ( gastric bypass in particular) if anyone out there could recommend a reputable surgeon clinic or hospital.i would love to hear from you. Anyone who has been there for surgery I would love to hear good and bad points about your experience. thankyou
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Not at all. It definitely can contribute to weight gain, but that has not been my experience. I had been on it about 4 years when I had surgery, and I lost at a perfectly acceptable rate, hit goal, etc. I don't think its impacted my loss at all - although I do wonder if it contributed to me being unable to lose PRIOR to surgery. But that's really irrelevant at this point, I guess.
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Bari things that give you the ick
Smanky replied to kbsleeved's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
^This. All this. Especially the bolded. I get that confronting your own weight isn't nice, I get it. It's not nice to hear you're obese. But certain people on social media trying to insist it's a "slur" just makes me livid. I have NEVER had people yell "Eat a salad OBESEY!" or yell "OBESE!!!" at me from a passing car. It's a medical term. What hand-holding gently-gently kid gloves term is permissible now that everyone's offended by everything? Had to rant. It really really gets on my wick. -
Stalls happen & they will break in their time. Think of them as your body being stressed (it’s going through a lot of change at the moment - surgery, weight loss, change of diet, etc.) & it just wants to shut the door & pull the covers over it’s head until it’s ready to deal with the changes & stress. You just need to ride it out. Don’t stress yourself or your body more. Follow your plan, meet your protein & fluid goals & your weight will start to drop again.
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very common. Many women experience mood swings and/or screwed up menstrual cycles for the first few months after surgery. It's supposedly because estrogen is stored in fat cells, and it gets released during rapid weight loss. It'll stabilize once your weight loss slows down. It can take a few weeks or months.
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NYU Langone or Advent Health?
catwoman7 replied to Z1018's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Gastric sleeve is such a common surgery these days that I don't think I'd make the trek to New York for it. If the place in Orlando has been doing weight loss surgeries for awhile and you've heard good things about it, I'd just do it there. I did travel for my plastic surgery because I wanted someone who was really top notch, but I don't think it makes as much difference with sleeve or bypass (maybe duodenal switch - or various revisions - but not straight sleeve or bypass) P.S. to answer your question - no, I haven't had experience with either one. But I've never heard of people traveling that far for sleeve (or bypass) surgeries - unless you're talking going to a place like Mexico to have it done for much less than most places charge in the US. P.P.S. I just googled reviews of the bariatric surgery unit at Advent Health. Those surgeons all have stellar reviews. And I'm not talking 10 reviews - there are over 100 reviews for each of them. I don't think you'd have to worry about going there... -
I wasn't obese as a teen and hardly overweight either. so I personally would not have qualified or wanted to have surgery. I think the recovery would be hard on a teen and that bariatric surgery is not a good option for teens unless they are severely obese. Children should not be on diets either, in my opinion. I think a lot of my weight problems stem from going on a diet as a teen, even though I was not technically overweight. I developed an unhealthy relationship with food and started binge eating.
