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I've never been a fan of "eat until you're full" because sometimes that comes too late. It seriously sucks when you go from "okay I'm full now" to a few minutes later of "okay I'm going to throw up right now!" For the first few weeks I pretty much ate out of a measuring cup. 4 oz is typical, however at that stage there is such a difference between foods. You could likely get 4 oz of yogurt down without much fuss. 4 oz of chicken would have killed me once I was cleared to eat anything. The density of the food really matters. Get yourself a nice little kitchen scale. You can pick one up from Walmart or Amazon for $10-15. Measure out your food and go from there. If you can comfortably eat 3 oz after a few times then try going up to 4 oz. Just keep in mind that 1 oz doesn't seem like much but it really is for us.
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The wiring between your stomach and brain is all jacked up right now. This is why measuring your food at this stage is so very, very important. It will vary between individuals, but go into with the mindset that your stomach doesn't know how to tell you it's full yet. In time that will return. Also keep in mind that liquids tend to pass through the system quickly. Unless you are drinking too fast it's not often you'll ever get a full sensation. Same thing for foods like yogurt. If it can become a liquid at room temperature then it you can basically treat it like a liquid. Just remember - measure, measure, measure!
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Are you asking because you're experiencing this or just asking in general? Are you pre or post op? If post-op it's common to go through a phase of things tasting different. A lot of flavors I loved in my protein powders, yogurts, and Crystal Light drinks tasted terrible for a few weeks after surgery. It was truly bizarre. As I transitioned through the phases and was able to introduce more foods back into my diet things started to get back to normal. That being said there are a handful of things I don’t like the taste of anymore. I used to love Miracle Whip over regular mayo. Now I can’t stand Miracle Whip. It comes off with a chemical taste now and don’t enjoy it at all.
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Sleeved 2/2-already able to eat!
XYZXYZXYZ1955 replied to atwoah's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm curious about how you know you are healing well? I mean, I didn't have pain at all after the surgery (except for about ten minutes after waking up), but I don't really know what was going on inside my body--I assume my stomach was healing from the rather drastic change to it. I'm just thinking that you should be careful not to do anything too soon--stick to the liquids and, when allowed, things like jello or popsicles or yogurt; don't jump into solid foods before your program advises it. The first month or so is tough, but it really isn't that long in the grand scheme of things. Stay safe! -
Hi, we are surgery date twins:) I'm on day four of my liquid diet. I am not able to eat or drink much. I feel the pain in my belly when I've had too much to drink which is usually less than 1/2 cup. My starting stats were: starting weight 365 lbs, day of surgery weight : 329 lbs. I don't own a scale so not sure of now I'm excited to start full fluids on Saturday. Especially to get to eat yogurt again. Lol the small wins Sent from my SM-G955W using BariatricPal mobile app
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Let's Shake The Tree!! Hey Vets, Maintaining is All About The Rules...Right?
FluffyChix replied to FluffyChix's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Thanks so much for this dude! I'd call you a success and a role model. Have you hit any caloric walls where you feel like you're going up inexplicably? I do have to face the reality and did a long time ago, that "carbs" are not my friend. Pre-surg, I really can't eat legumes, or have too big of a serving of yogurt or fruit without my bgs going up and being crazy hungry within 2hours. That's how I know if something (or a meal) had too much glycemic load for my particular body to handle. Before I met my RD, I was averaging loosely between 20-40g per day of net carbs with a crap ton of that from fiber. It's where I feel best. -
5 months post sleeve
GreenTealael replied to imadmerhi's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yogurt, string cheese, protein shakes ,eggs, turkey chilli and if all else fails protein chips, protein cookies and protein crackers. But I advise you speak with your surgeon or nutrition to discover the problem... Can't eat that way forever... -
I’m 2 weeks post op and in the puréed stage too. I’ve had refried beans with melted cheese. I also added a little plain Greek yogurt to it. It’s a great sour cream substitute. I puréed the beans first and thinned them out just a little with water. It taste great!
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Diet Changes After Nutritionist
Diana_in_Philly replied to Jerseygirl4523's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
So, most days I do a shake for breakfast - 1 cup of fairlife skim milk, scoop of protein powder, handful of frozen fruit. Most days, that will hold me until noon when I have my chicken and salad - sometimes chicken salad on salad. Afternoon snack is usually cheese - I need the extra protein. Dinner is whatever I make for the family - protein and veg. As to pasta, I stayed away for 1 year. (For an Italian, it was hard) My go to now if I have pasta is the Barilla High Protein in the yellow box. I find it better than the other "substitute" pastas. Some days for breakfast I'll have scrambled eggs with cheese, but on days when I'm on the way into the office I do a shake and coffee. I did not give up my coffee. My team was OK with it. Lunch at the office is always a salad with 1 tablespoon of a vinaigrette dressing and about 3-4 ounces of protein - usually left over from dinner the night before. Snacks during the day are cheese or Oikos greek yogurt. Sometimes, a small apple. Dinner is 3-5 ounces of protein and a vegetable - sometimes 1/2 of a baked potato. I make all kinds of proteins at home - fish, beef, chicken, pork. I find the denser the protein, the less I can eat - I can eat 5-6 ounces of cod at this point, but only about 3-4 ounces of beef. Pinterest is your friend for meal planning. This week I have tons of leftovers - we had a sleepover for the 15 year old daughter so there were tacos - there's plenty of taco meat left which will be a taco salad for dinner tonight for me. I bought but didn't make chicken wings for the game yesterday and they will be dinner tomorrow. You've got this. My RD was clear - protein and water first. Get your 60/60 in - 60g protein, 64 ounces water - daily. I shoot for about 90 g protein most days. Using MyFitnessPal to track my foods has helped quite a bit. -
Full liquid diet and pouch stretching
Sadiebug replied to Nancy Geoghegan's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
The reason you can have more now is because the extreme swelling from surgery is starting to go down. Plus, as Creekimp said everything you are eating (liquids, yogurt, etc) is just sliding right through your pouch. Taking an hour to eat yogurt is a long time. My surgeon recommends that we eat our meals in 30 minutes (and at 2 weeks out we were on 4oz of pureed). I think you're fine - but if you do have concerns you can always call your surgeons office to discuss them. -
Full liquid diet and pouch stretching
Creekimp13 replied to Nancy Geoghegan's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
You need to eat everything you're told. Or at least try hard to do so. The reason being...as you heal, you NEED to stretch it a little several times a day to keep the openings open, and reduce the odds of it developing a stricture from scar tissue. (that's what I was told) 4 ounces of yogurt in an hour is fine. You won't stretch your pouch drinking fluids...they move right through. Most of the stuff you're eating right now does. And of course you can drink more now...you're healing. it's a good thing:) Less risk of dehydration. -
Full liquid diet and pouch stretching
LivingLife100 replied to Nancy Geoghegan's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
My surgeon had the same procedure on himself and he says that taking time to eat is the best way to not to stretch it. He also said only to eat when my full attention is on the food. Sounds like you taking an hour to eat a yogurt is a good thing! I would usually eat a yogurt preop in minutes! -
Full liquid diet and pouch stretching
Nancy Geoghegan posted a topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Hi All. I am almost two weeks out and on what is called the full liquid diet by my surgeon. Basically, they added skim milk, 4 oz of yogurt, 2 oz of no sugar added applesauce and 2oz of sugar free pudding. The SF pudding, in my opinion, is not really necessary except for the texture and taste but I can live without it. I will say that before the RNY I thought the SF pudding wasn't sweet at all and now wow it sure is sweet lol. The dannon light and fit greek yogurt is healthier - no fat, lots of protein, etc. No sugar added applesauce is ok and the only fruit I can have so I eat it. Thing is, I don't really want to eat more than 800 calories a day so I'm cutting out the pudding and eating only the 4oz of yogurt and the 2oz of applesauce. My question is this. I am not gulping my protein shake or water but I sure can drink it faster than I could when I just had surgery. I also went to the movies and ate a whole yogurt over a period of an hour. Do you guys think that it can stretch my pouch if I drink down more than a sip at a time of liquid or eat that yogurt in an hour? Thanks. -
Surgery was harder than I expected. My IV was a problem, and due to this, I was not getting my pain meds correctly for the afternoon following surgery. My evening nurse figured it out at the start of of her shift when she did the once-over. The pain before that was significant, so much so that I just didn't interact with any of my visitors. I literally just laid in bed with my eyes closed and listened to everyone talk. Once everyone left, and the new nurse took over, she put in a new IV and that first dose of morphine made my eyes roll back in my head. I was allowed to have it about every hour, but only required morphine doses about every 3 hours. Had surgery Wednesday morning, was home by Friday evening. Today is Sunday, and I feel pretty good today. I didn't have a BM from Tuesday until today. That really sucked for sure. I don't like dealing with constipation, but it is a common side effect. I am having a hard time getting all my food in. I just am not hungry. I am enjoying the soups, though, really enjoying them and also the yogurt. I am getting my water in just fine, though. Time for dinner. I need to upload my before pics.
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I started purees a couple days ago. Haven't tried them yet, but my plan has fat free refried beans on the list of recommended foods. Just make sure to puree them - they recommend maybe thinning them out a little. I've tried a scrambled egg twice. Takes me a long time to finish it. I love cottage cheese, so have had that (did NOT like it with protein powder mixed in) and it goes down well. Have also had chicken salad made with canned chicken and greek yogurt, whirled in the blender. Today will try some roasted red pepper and tomato soup with unflavored protein powder.
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3 months NUT diet/rny bariatric req
Creekimp13 replied to redlirpa's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Our bodies have hundreds of thousands of years of evolutionary defense mechanisms to cope with famines and bad hunting seasons. Too much weight loss, too fast, and these mechanisms kick in, our metabolisms slow...and we just have to grin and bear it. Eventually the stalls break. It's incredibly frustrating when you're dieting, and incredibly useful when you're trying to survive famine. A possible concern I have about keto diets (I have many, actually, which is why I don't do keto) is that a keto diet can destroy the diversity of your gut microbiota. A higher ratio of Prevotella-to-Bacteroides bacteria is associated with better weight loss outcomes....and a diet high in animal protein reverses the ratio and decreases diversity. Some ideas for you... Each day, include a sampling of as many foods as possible, particularly those high in fiber (which helps propogate Prevotella) I'll take a quarter cup scoop and put all sorts of weird little thing in there....a bit of pepper, onion, corn, pickle, an olive, a raisin, half a strawberry, a grape, a tiny cube of potato, cheeses, whole wheat biscuit, a teenie piece of brocolli, a few chopped pecan pieces....you're not looking for volume, you're looking for diversity. Teenie bits of everything wholesome in the kitchen. Try adding a probiotic drink or yogurt instead of your protein bar. Add exercise. But most of all.....just be patient....you're not gonna change evolution. You will eventually lose more weight:) -
https://www.buzzfeed.com/carolynkylstra/mason-jar-salads?utm_term=.iu9MzP7pQO#.fjMqE6XOap Bariatric patients look at these and think....would be nice, but WAY too much bulk there to eat.. And it's true...it's a lot of food for a bariatric patient. But if you're eating six small meals a day, it can be nice to have leftovers handy for the next little meal:) Also...you can make these geared a little more to the bariatric diet. Consider the following layers: Hummus Turkey bacon Tuna salad Tofu Shrimp Chicken breast Black beans Chick peas Lowfat hard cheeses Cottage cheese Fetta cheese Olives Banana peppers Avacado chunks Sweet potato chunks Hard boiled eggs Yogurt Pickles Reduced fat reduced sodium salami (great in greek salad!) Protein Pasta (made of chick peas, lentils, and whole wheat) Think of all of your favorites. Include some fruits. A few raspberries, peach slices, fresh apple chunks, pineapple, blueberries Some nice finely diced veggies like peppers, cukes, tomatoes, mushrooms, brocolli bits, onion, fresh herbs Make homemade dressings with low sugar and fat Oh! and if the idea of carrying glass jars around scares you....consider stopping at Gordon's food service and picking up tall plastic deli containers. You can get 50 containers and lids for under ten bucks. The more variety you're including in your diet....the more diverse your gut microbiota will be. Diverse gut bugs are correlated with better weight loss during diet attempts. Switch it up. Get lots of fiber in addition to meeting your protein goals. Get you some wonderful phytonutrients:) And enjoy flavor!
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I'd like to hear from long-timers, like 5 years or more
James Marusek replied to FutureFitGal's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I am 5 years post op RNY gastric bypass. It is common to have some limited weight gain after weight loss surgery. They call it a 20 pound bounce. The important thing is not let go beyond this 20 pounds. Most times this weight gain is due to a poor choice of snacks. Snacks should be limited to primarily to whole food options: nuts, natural nut butters, fruits, veggies, boiled eggs, string cheese, yogurt with berries and almonds, tuna pouches. Avoid processed packaged foods as much as possible.- 1 reply
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3 months NUT diet/rny bariatric req
redlirpa posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was losing weight 42 pounds oct-December doing whole 30 Transition to keto . On 1/17, I started the 3 month required Nut diet and since then, I have not lost or gained a pound in 3 weeks. Any tips or meal plans you had while you were on the 3/6 month diet before surgery. The biggest change is the increase of protein and lowering of fat. Nut diet is low carb, low fat, night protein What I eat, nearly the same every day I still have coffee but change to half caf 2 hard boiled eggs 1/2 cup of fruit apple or orange Romaine salad with chicken, blue cheese lite balsamic dressing Carrots Adkins shake 100 calorie nut pack or 1oz of cashews Mashed cauliflower with beef and center cut bacon crumbles with cheese (Either a sf pudding, sf hot cocoa, or yogurt) Sometimes an Adkins bar -
It's been six months since my bypass and here's where I'm at: 130 lbs lost (90 since surgery) 60 inches overall I feel close to normal, though eating is still a bit of a negotiation. I took my first long trip and the difference was amazing: no seat extender needed on the plane, much less leg swelling, able to walk around more easily. AND I was able to eat out for almost every meal! I bought stuff for breakfast and snacks to keep in my room--mostly high protein stuff like yogurt and edamame and protein drinks--and then I just ordered whatever I wanted at restaurants, knowing that I might only eat a few bites. I took some back to the hotel for later, but most often, gave away my "doggie bag". All in all, the travel felt good. I have started swimming, which is great, because my back and leg injuries are still preventing me from doing too much more. I'm looking forward to those being healed and managed so I can walk more and take some exercise classes and yoga. As I start to be able to eat more, some of the old feelings have emerged--like worrying when I'll stop losing as I eat more calories, and fighting the temptation to snack on high carb stuff. I'm trying to just keep practicing being aware of my hunger levels and whether I'm head hungry or stomach hungry. Even though I knew all along that the surgery wouldn't necessarily change behaviors, I still feel a little sad to be back to managing these feelings. I've avoided eating sweets like candy or cake, and pasta, because I don't want to know if I can eat them yet!! I'm almost at the first goal I set for myself, back when I couldn't imagine that I could ever be 225lbs again. I'm hesitant to set another goal at this point, but I'm looking forward to 180lbs. Right now I'm just losing with the food choices I'm able to make because of the surgery. When I start having to restrict calories in order to lose, I'll think more about having a fixed goal.
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The 5 day pouch test DOES work!
Tangie729 replied to serenityjames81's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
@serenityjames81 Thank you for your post! I have lost my way and doing TOO much when it comes to what I'm eating and how often I'm eating. I was considering the 5 day reset to reset my mind! May will be 3 years for me and like you after 3 years, i have 50 more pounds to lose! I feel a little ashamed but I'm so happy to hear someone else with a similar story. I'm going to the store tomorrow to get some cream of chicken soup and more yogurt! I gotta do this -
How often should I be eating? Calorie intake?
Dropzone replied to Rose400491's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I am 9 months post op I eat 3 meals breakfast, lunch, dinner with 2 snacks being protein shake or a yogurt cup or some cottage cheese roughly half a cup. My calories are about 900-950 a day and I am drinking roughly 130oz of water a day. i get about 80-90g of protien a day I also use Thebes MyFitnessPal app daily best tool so far I have found -
2-week Post Op what to drink?
ChaosUnlimited replied to judy09's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What type are you using? If you haven't tried a pre-mixed drink like Premier protein shakes, give that a try. Or maybe use an unflavored protein in some unsweetened applesauce or yogurt if you have progressed to puree. Usually the nausea will get better over time. -
I'm getting sick of only eating Jell-O, yogurt and cottage cheese. Any suggestions?
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It will change. One, you'll hopefulyl maintain a bit of that feeling of not caring so much about what you eat any longer. I eat a lot of the same stuff (chicken salad, tuna salad, lettuce salads, yogurt, etc) on a regular basis and I don't get tired of it. I'm actually happy I don't stress so much about needing to get this and that and a host of other things from the store. There are times when eating is a chore, or you take that one bite that was too big and leaves you feeling blah for the next hour. It takes some time but you'll get used to it. It's normal to go through phases like this. And honestly...get used to the scale being your friend and most hated enemy at times. Everyone loses at different rates. Some months are better than others. Just don't get so hung up on the scale that it becomes your only means of judging how well you're doing. There are a lot of non scale victories that I've had in the past year that meant way more to me than seeing the scale change on a weekly basis.
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