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Full liquid diet and pouch stretching
LivingLife100 replied to Nancy Geoghegan's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
My surgeon had the same procedure on himself and he says that taking time to eat is the best way to not to stretch it. He also said only to eat when my full attention is on the food. Sounds like you taking an hour to eat a yogurt is a good thing! I would usually eat a yogurt preop in minutes! -
Full liquid diet and pouch stretching
Nancy Geoghegan posted a topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Hi All. I am almost two weeks out and on what is called the full liquid diet by my surgeon. Basically, they added skim milk, 4 oz of yogurt, 2 oz of no sugar added applesauce and 2oz of sugar free pudding. The SF pudding, in my opinion, is not really necessary except for the texture and taste but I can live without it. I will say that before the RNY I thought the SF pudding wasn't sweet at all and now wow it sure is sweet lol. The dannon light and fit greek yogurt is healthier - no fat, lots of protein, etc. No sugar added applesauce is ok and the only fruit I can have so I eat it. Thing is, I don't really want to eat more than 800 calories a day so I'm cutting out the pudding and eating only the 4oz of yogurt and the 2oz of applesauce. My question is this. I am not gulping my protein shake or water but I sure can drink it faster than I could when I just had surgery. I also went to the movies and ate a whole yogurt over a period of an hour. Do you guys think that it can stretch my pouch if I drink down more than a sip at a time of liquid or eat that yogurt in an hour? Thanks. -
Surgery was harder than I expected. My IV was a problem, and due to this, I was not getting my pain meds correctly for the afternoon following surgery. My evening nurse figured it out at the start of of her shift when she did the once-over. The pain before that was significant, so much so that I just didn't interact with any of my visitors. I literally just laid in bed with my eyes closed and listened to everyone talk. Once everyone left, and the new nurse took over, she put in a new IV and that first dose of morphine made my eyes roll back in my head. I was allowed to have it about every hour, but only required morphine doses about every 3 hours. Had surgery Wednesday morning, was home by Friday evening. Today is Sunday, and I feel pretty good today. I didn't have a BM from Tuesday until today. That really sucked for sure. I don't like dealing with constipation, but it is a common side effect. I am having a hard time getting all my food in. I just am not hungry. I am enjoying the soups, though, really enjoying them and also the yogurt. I am getting my water in just fine, though. Time for dinner. I need to upload my before pics.
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I started purees a couple days ago. Haven't tried them yet, but my plan has fat free refried beans on the list of recommended foods. Just make sure to puree them - they recommend maybe thinning them out a little. I've tried a scrambled egg twice. Takes me a long time to finish it. I love cottage cheese, so have had that (did NOT like it with protein powder mixed in) and it goes down well. Have also had chicken salad made with canned chicken and greek yogurt, whirled in the blender. Today will try some roasted red pepper and tomato soup with unflavored protein powder.
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3 months NUT diet/rny bariatric req
Creekimp13 replied to redlirpa's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Our bodies have hundreds of thousands of years of evolutionary defense mechanisms to cope with famines and bad hunting seasons. Too much weight loss, too fast, and these mechanisms kick in, our metabolisms slow...and we just have to grin and bear it. Eventually the stalls break. It's incredibly frustrating when you're dieting, and incredibly useful when you're trying to survive famine. A possible concern I have about keto diets (I have many, actually, which is why I don't do keto) is that a keto diet can destroy the diversity of your gut microbiota. A higher ratio of Prevotella-to-Bacteroides bacteria is associated with better weight loss outcomes....and a diet high in animal protein reverses the ratio and decreases diversity. Some ideas for you... Each day, include a sampling of as many foods as possible, particularly those high in fiber (which helps propogate Prevotella) I'll take a quarter cup scoop and put all sorts of weird little thing in there....a bit of pepper, onion, corn, pickle, an olive, a raisin, half a strawberry, a grape, a tiny cube of potato, cheeses, whole wheat biscuit, a teenie piece of brocolli, a few chopped pecan pieces....you're not looking for volume, you're looking for diversity. Teenie bits of everything wholesome in the kitchen. Try adding a probiotic drink or yogurt instead of your protein bar. Add exercise. But most of all.....just be patient....you're not gonna change evolution. You will eventually lose more weight:) -
https://www.buzzfeed.com/carolynkylstra/mason-jar-salads?utm_term=.iu9MzP7pQO#.fjMqE6XOap Bariatric patients look at these and think....would be nice, but WAY too much bulk there to eat.. And it's true...it's a lot of food for a bariatric patient. But if you're eating six small meals a day, it can be nice to have leftovers handy for the next little meal:) Also...you can make these geared a little more to the bariatric diet. Consider the following layers: Hummus Turkey bacon Tuna salad Tofu Shrimp Chicken breast Black beans Chick peas Lowfat hard cheeses Cottage cheese Fetta cheese Olives Banana peppers Avacado chunks Sweet potato chunks Hard boiled eggs Yogurt Pickles Reduced fat reduced sodium salami (great in greek salad!) Protein Pasta (made of chick peas, lentils, and whole wheat) Think of all of your favorites. Include some fruits. A few raspberries, peach slices, fresh apple chunks, pineapple, blueberries Some nice finely diced veggies like peppers, cukes, tomatoes, mushrooms, brocolli bits, onion, fresh herbs Make homemade dressings with low sugar and fat Oh! and if the idea of carrying glass jars around scares you....consider stopping at Gordon's food service and picking up tall plastic deli containers. You can get 50 containers and lids for under ten bucks. The more variety you're including in your diet....the more diverse your gut microbiota will be. Diverse gut bugs are correlated with better weight loss during diet attempts. Switch it up. Get lots of fiber in addition to meeting your protein goals. Get you some wonderful phytonutrients:) And enjoy flavor!
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I'd like to hear from long-timers, like 5 years or more
James Marusek replied to FutureFitGal's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I am 5 years post op RNY gastric bypass. It is common to have some limited weight gain after weight loss surgery. They call it a 20 pound bounce. The important thing is not let go beyond this 20 pounds. Most times this weight gain is due to a poor choice of snacks. Snacks should be limited to primarily to whole food options: nuts, natural nut butters, fruits, veggies, boiled eggs, string cheese, yogurt with berries and almonds, tuna pouches. Avoid processed packaged foods as much as possible. -
3 months NUT diet/rny bariatric req
redlirpa posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was losing weight 42 pounds oct-December doing whole 30 Transition to keto . On 1/17, I started the 3 month required Nut diet and since then, I have not lost or gained a pound in 3 weeks. Any tips or meal plans you had while you were on the 3/6 month diet before surgery. The biggest change is the increase of protein and lowering of fat. Nut diet is low carb, low fat, night protein What I eat, nearly the same every day I still have coffee but change to half caf 2 hard boiled eggs 1/2 cup of fruit apple or orange Romaine salad with chicken, blue cheese lite balsamic dressing Carrots Adkins shake 100 calorie nut pack or 1oz of cashews Mashed cauliflower with beef and center cut bacon crumbles with cheese (Either a sf pudding, sf hot cocoa, or yogurt) Sometimes an Adkins bar -
It's been six months since my bypass and here's where I'm at: 130 lbs lost (90 since surgery) 60 inches overall I feel close to normal, though eating is still a bit of a negotiation. I took my first long trip and the difference was amazing: no seat extender needed on the plane, much less leg swelling, able to walk around more easily. AND I was able to eat out for almost every meal! I bought stuff for breakfast and snacks to keep in my room--mostly high protein stuff like yogurt and edamame and protein drinks--and then I just ordered whatever I wanted at restaurants, knowing that I might only eat a few bites. I took some back to the hotel for later, but most often, gave away my "doggie bag". All in all, the travel felt good. I have started swimming, which is great, because my back and leg injuries are still preventing me from doing too much more. I'm looking forward to those being healed and managed so I can walk more and take some exercise classes and yoga. As I start to be able to eat more, some of the old feelings have emerged--like worrying when I'll stop losing as I eat more calories, and fighting the temptation to snack on high carb stuff. I'm trying to just keep practicing being aware of my hunger levels and whether I'm head hungry or stomach hungry. Even though I knew all along that the surgery wouldn't necessarily change behaviors, I still feel a little sad to be back to managing these feelings. I've avoided eating sweets like candy or cake, and pasta, because I don't want to know if I can eat them yet!! I'm almost at the first goal I set for myself, back when I couldn't imagine that I could ever be 225lbs again. I'm hesitant to set another goal at this point, but I'm looking forward to 180lbs. Right now I'm just losing with the food choices I'm able to make because of the surgery. When I start having to restrict calories in order to lose, I'll think more about having a fixed goal.
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The 5 day pouch test DOES work!
Tangie729 replied to serenityjames81's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
@serenityjames81 Thank you for your post! I have lost my way and doing TOO much when it comes to what I'm eating and how often I'm eating. I was considering the 5 day reset to reset my mind! May will be 3 years for me and like you after 3 years, i have 50 more pounds to lose! I feel a little ashamed but I'm so happy to hear someone else with a similar story. I'm going to the store tomorrow to get some cream of chicken soup and more yogurt! I gotta do this -
How often should I be eating? Calorie intake?
Dropzone replied to Rose400491's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I am 9 months post op I eat 3 meals breakfast, lunch, dinner with 2 snacks being protein shake or a yogurt cup or some cottage cheese roughly half a cup. My calories are about 900-950 a day and I am drinking roughly 130oz of water a day. i get about 80-90g of protien a day I also use Thebes MyFitnessPal app daily best tool so far I have found -
2-week Post Op what to drink?
ChaosUnlimited replied to judy09's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
What type are you using? If you haven't tried a pre-mixed drink like Premier protein shakes, give that a try. Or maybe use an unflavored protein in some unsweetened applesauce or yogurt if you have progressed to puree. Usually the nausea will get better over time. -
I'm getting sick of only eating Jell-O, yogurt and cottage cheese. Any suggestions?
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It will change. One, you'll hopefulyl maintain a bit of that feeling of not caring so much about what you eat any longer. I eat a lot of the same stuff (chicken salad, tuna salad, lettuce salads, yogurt, etc) on a regular basis and I don't get tired of it. I'm actually happy I don't stress so much about needing to get this and that and a host of other things from the store. There are times when eating is a chore, or you take that one bite that was too big and leaves you feeling blah for the next hour. It takes some time but you'll get used to it. It's normal to go through phases like this. And honestly...get used to the scale being your friend and most hated enemy at times. Everyone loses at different rates. Some months are better than others. Just don't get so hung up on the scale that it becomes your only means of judging how well you're doing. There are a lot of non scale victories that I've had in the past year that meant way more to me than seeing the scale change on a weekly basis.
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Just had Orientation, Feeling Discouraged
orionburn replied to GeorgieDean's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
There is some fear mongering to an extent, and it's justified. It's easy to get a lot of empty calories from liquids. Slider foods (things like mashed potatoes or ice cream) you'll find you could still eat quite a decent amount of only a few months after surgery. The risk/concern is that because it's easy to have more of those foods people will transfer a food addiction to those. For instance my NUT told stories of somebody that nibbled on pizza all day long. They couldn't eat more than a piece in a single sitting, but the constant grazing led to weight gain. Same with somebody snaking on the mini Snickers all day long. Yogurts are a staple in my diet. No, they don't fill you up but it's a healthy snack and easy way to get protein in. I don't like offices that make this giant banned list of foods. You can eat nearly anything a few months after surgery. It's just a dangerous path to go down for a lot of folks. Some things are gone and have stayed gone (foods that I struggled with). Other things I allow myself to have maybe once a month and I'm fine with that. Pasta used to be dinner at least 2 nights a week. Now I have a little bit maybe once a month and that's all I care about having. I don't have cravings for it like I used to. If I never had it again I really don't care, and I was a massive pasta lover prior to surgery. I get why they do it but I think there are better approaches to take. The straw thing is mainly in the beginning to avoid the risk of drinking too much too quickly. I use straws now but have to remember that I can't pound a drink down like before. -
Thanks for the support. I eat healthy. I eat Greek yogurt no fat kind, protein shakes and chicken. I don't have control over portions as the sleeve really limits the amount. Its just that the weight isn't coming off so, I think I am doing something wrong. Then when I do eat it isn't a pleasant experience. I used to enjoy food. No more. Now it is only something I have to do and I don't really now how to feel about that. Sent from my SM-N950U using BariatricPal mobile app
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Anyone that started around 300 want to share your stats?
kyotosong replied to Gotalose's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I started out at 355 with the program (end of July), was 320 on my surgery date (mid December), 312 at my 2 week post op, 306 at my 1 month post op and I'm 304 today (about 6 weeks out). I'm 50 lbs lost (total), which is great, but I'm really struggling now. I'm on soft foods so I can eat tender meats, which is great (finally!) but I'm making bad choices (no bread or rice but a few pretzels here and there, as well as potatoes very occasionally and fruit greek yogurt with sugar sometimes). My calories are under 1000 per day but I'm struggling to drink enough and get in enough protein. I'm one of the unfortunate that never lost my sense of hunger - pangs, growling, the works. The PA said to eat smaller meals more frequently but it's not helping unless I'm eating. I don't drink before eating nor after for 30 mins but as soon as I start drinking water, the pangs come back. Also, I can eat more than I feel I should be able to at this point - like 6-8 oz at a time. I hate feeling the hunger - I never felt this when I was pre-op and I was losing much faster than this while consuming around 1500-1700 calories/day. It's nearly constant and the gnawing is hard to ignore. It just makes me think about food too much! At work, I bring a portioned breakfast and lunch (meat and/or eggs) but after I've eaten what I've brought to work, 2 hrs or so before I leave, I get famished. A few times I've had 2-3 larger pretzels (costco tub they keep at work) because I know they'll sit there for a bit and I can focus on work. And yes, I know it's just straight worthless carbs. I don't even like salty snacks but it really helps stop the gnawing. For a bit, at least. I wish I had the loss of appetite like many have so I could just focus on scheduling my meals, eating for fuel, etc. But that's not how my body is handling this surgery. At least I haven't had any nausea and haven't thrown up, so that's a good thing. -
Just had Orientation, Feeling Discouraged
GeorgieDean posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I have to say I feel very discouraged. I’m not sure why but I went into this fully optimistic and learning about the pre op diet and the things you can and cannot have after the procedure makes me very nervous. For example: I love blending spinach water ect, but I can’t because they say no liquid calories. Not even yogurt:(. I just feel this heavy weight in my chest. I don’t eat a lot of meat in general and I asked the nutritionist after if there were some vegetarian options and she said “yes, it’s just going to be much harder” . I can eat chicken, and turkey but I have never really cooked it cause it kinda grosses me out handling raw meat ( I’m weird I know. . I know all this will be worth it. Another thing is the straw thing you can’t drink from a straw... like I know that it is silly but it’s almost like they are taking away everything from you. I know I need this but I am so overwhelmed. -
Anyone that started around 300 want to share your stats?
beckyagain replied to Gotalose's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
The pureed stage was kind of annoying! 1/4 cup-3 ounces is right about where I was, depending on the food. Some days I could do a little more, some less. I ate a LOT of packets of tuna fish!! Not exactly pureed, but I chewed it forever. I had lots of Greek yogurt (most of the time I couldn't finish the 5 oz. container). -
Wanting a chewy chocolate protein bar
Maggie1955 replied to BINABINA25's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
At 12 days out my plan allowed me to have low-fat cottage cheese, yogurt, unsweetened applesauce, low sugar oatmeal, low fat string cheese or Babybel cheese, tuna salad, and chili. Surely one of these foods will satisfy your food craving. -
Crunchy Foods & Lack of Satiety - Even Nuts?
orionburn replied to Taylor5's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
To be honest this is the wake-up call you probably need. The surgery is just a tool. You're seeing already how easy it can be to still get a lot of calories in without a lot of food. The cravings and head hunger aren't things that just go away with surgery. We're always going to have those battles. Things like nuts aren't bad for you (maybe not so much now because it's not on your plan) but as with everything moderation is key. You're going to find that certain foods are going to fill you up and others won't. Slider foods being the biggest culprit. Soups and soft foods (like yogurt) are easier to pass through the system. Denser proteins are going to be harder to break down. Like you said it's easy to break down nuts into a very fine paste of sorts. With something like chicken you're going to break it down but not to the extent of the nuts. Most of us are going to stumble from time to time. Get back up on your feet and stay on track. Hopefully you can find some healthy rewards of sorts as you can bring more foods back into your diet. I mean for me a Greek Yogurt with a little bit of Cool Wip is a nice dessert like treat for me. I'm a big love of mixed nuts as well and I allow myself to have them from time to time, but I have to do it as a treat now and then. Again...moderation. Another thing is treating it like alcoholism. Don't put yourself in situations that you feel you can't handle yet. I mean seriously, if you're trying to stop drinking you don't go hang out in a bar a week after you quit. If you're going to go out pick something where you have no choice but to eat something healthy. The sooner/better you get at controling your urges now the better you'll set yourself up for the long term. -
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sleeved2win replied to Amy1234's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
How frustrating! Maybe aim for 1000-1200 cals a day. It sounds counterproductive but I agree with that others that a stall can be broken by eating more. If you're already eating your 80 g of protein, which is plenty, add calories with fruits, veggies and healthy carbs. All carbs are not created equal, and they aren't all bad. Healthy fats are good too. Some easy ideas: Make some roasted veggies in the oven with a little EVOO, salt and pepper. Cut up onions, potatoes, add cauliflower, brussel sprouts, carrots, etc. make sure you're still only eating 1/2-1 cup at a time. Add avocado to anything for a calorie and healthy fat boost. I've always liked to wrap deli turkey and cheese in an avocado slice and eat it like a wrap. Have a chai or coffee latte with skim or reduced fat milk. Add a sugar free "pump" for flavor if needed. Have some fruit. Add a little Greek yogurt or chocolate hummus as a dip. Adding 200 cals a day might make the difference you're looking for. Good luck! -
I have been on full liquids for a week. I made a cheesy cauliflower soup and it was amazing. The first time I made it I did not blend it enough so it was a little harder to eat. Second time I made sure to blend it a bunch. If the soup has chunks of meat I think that would be off limits. Besides that I think as long as you blend it a bunch or strain it you should be ok. Just remember it’s still a liquid diet not a purée diet. I have had cottage cheese and yogurt already. Technically soft foods but my dietician said it was ok. My dietician said recently someone came in with pain and nausea. Turned out a piece of tomato skin got caught on a staple!! They had to go in and remove it.
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Emotions & frustration. 1 month
babu1995 replied to sleevedrose's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
After my RNY on 12/28 and after that I can only do Lactose Free milk, I tried eggs last week and again this week and it was a total no go. I started taking Papaya Enzyme about 4 weeks before my surgury and that has helped but I now also take 1 gas ex every night both are chewable. I eat alot of cottage cheese, low fat refried black beans and tuna. I am trying what my Dr. says and just try 1 new food everyday and see how it sits with me. Yesterday mushed carrots didnt work out but today greek yogurt was good. It will get better -
How about almonds, pistachios, nut mixes? Apples & peanut butter, Deli meat rolled with cheese, yogurt. There are also prepackaged protein packs for on the go. Sent from my SM-N950U using BariatricPal mobile app