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I started taking Biotin prior to surgery 8/15/05 and am still taking now. My hair is thinner now then it once was, but it’s very healthy.
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it's going to vary pretty widely because it depends on so many factors besides starting BMI (although that's a big one, of course). Gender, age, metabolic rate, activity rate, what percentage of your body is muscle - those all play a role. that said, I lost 57 lbs before I had surgery (between my six-month supervised diet that was required by my insurance company, plus the two-week liquid diet required by the surgeon). At one year out, I was 129 lbs down from my surgery weight, and 186 lbs down from my all-time highest weight. I went on to lose another 50 or so lbs during year 2 (have gained 20 of it back since then, which is pretty common. A lot of us experience a 10-20 lb rebound gain after hitting our lowest weight). P.S. Just noticed this was posted in the gastric sleeve forum - I had bypass. Average loss tends to be a little more with bypass (although not by much), but it totally depends on the person. If you really stick to your program, you can be very successful with either.
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What was your "this is it" moment
The Greater Fool replied to jamaro2795's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was always unrealistically sure I could do it with good 'ol diet and exercise, even at 700+ pounds. I happened to read an article that hid it's true topic about weight loss, so learning about WLS snuck up on me. Other than weight and some related DDD and knee issues, my health was good, but the writing was on the wall. By time I finished the article I spent the weekend obsessively researching until I decided WLS was for me. I rejected the available surgeries other than RNY for various reasons, selected a local surgeon, and started doing tests to get approved. It took about 4 months from that weekend to getting approved and having surgery. Never once regretted my decision. My surgery addressed every issue I asked of it and I followed through on my promises to myself. 18 years later and we are both still doing our jobs. Because of all this I've done things both big and small of which I never thought I'd do in my wildest dreams. Good luck, Tek -
September Surgery Buddies!!
Blueeyekitten replied to happilylacey's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Wow!!! That is great. I loss 74 so far; hoping to lose another 40. That will put me at my goal weight 😊 -
First things first: AMAZING JOB ON YOUR WEIGHT LOSS! You can and will keep it up! Next: Get out your tools. Grab MyFitnessPro and start scanning everything you out in your mouth. Drink your 64oz water or more every day. Start weighing daily on a Bluetooth scale and watch how water weight and activity impact your weight, then when you have a good day, you'll be able to see what you did and repeat the cycle. I can understand slowing and stalling at 8 months, especially if your activity has stopped, but you don't want to be overeating and gaining, it's obvious you know that. Don't let those bad feelings make you eat. It's your choice. Think of your kids when you get those feelings and find something protein packed to eat on! You got this!!!!
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Eating carbs (pasta, rice, or bread )
ms.sss replied to New_me_2022's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I never really removed ALL carbs from my diet (i think that would be really difficult), but I did go ultra-low carb during weight loss phase, < 25g NET a day. I didn’t really use any substitutes during weight loss phase, but i did try making cauliflower crusts…while good, i deemed them too much effort and just went without. After goal (approx 7 months) I did start using more substitutes (shiratake noodles, chicken crusts, zero carb bagels). The noodles were good, but super filling, the chicken crusts are effing delicious and i have yet to enjoy any type of zero carb bread (its NOT bread!). It took me a few months to lose my fear of carbohydrates, but by around 1 year (or was it 2?) post op, i started eating desserts and bread and pasta again. Granted i only eat really yummy bread or pasta (i.e., homemade by Mr.) but still. Nowadays i dont put limits on my carbs anymore (im 3.5+ years out) and just keep an eye on total calories. So far so good. -
Why Do People Think It's Okay To Tell You You're Fat?
ms.sss replied to GradyCat's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
My mother and aunts and older female cousins (and my PCP) are/were the only ones that talked to me about my weight gain…at least to my face. They never actually called me fat, but did say things like “maybe you should lose some weight”, “oh you’ve gained weight”, “you are bigger than the last time i saw you”, “you are eating too much”, etc etc. In the case of my PCP, he said stuff like “losing weight may help alleviate x” It was annoying, but i chalked it up to busy-bodiness on my family’s part at least. But i will say i got like 50x more comments than i ever got to my face about needing to gain weight, looking sick, not eating enough, being too skinny in the one year after WLS than i did about being fat in the 10-ish years i was overweight. And from a wider range of people, including stangers. Which was equally annoying. Mind you these same family members say other stuff too like: “oh i think its time to dye your hair, i see greys”, “you look tired, do u have any makeup on?”, “your forehead wrinkles are showing”, “your legs aren’t the best for miniskirts”. 🙄 I just nod/change subject. People suck. Let it roll of u, if u can. P.S. My legs are awesome for miniskirts, thankyouverymuch. -
What was your "this is it" moment
catwoman7 replied to jamaro2795's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had surgery at age 55 after being overweight or obese for most of my life (and REALLY obese after age 30). I spent literally decades on pretty much every diet known to man. The most I'd ever lose was about 50 lbs (usually it was more like 10 or 20 lbs). Then inevitably, I'd gain it back. As I got into my 50s, at over 300 lbs, I was afraid I'd never live to see my 60th birthday unless I got that weight off. I, too, never had any medical issues with it - no diabetes, no heart issues - all vitals were within the normal range - but i knew all that was likely just around the corner - if not an early death - if I didn't do something about my weight. I went to several info sessions on weight loss surgery put on by different surgeons and clinics just to see what it was all about. This started about 10 years before I actually decided to have the surgery. The one where I made the decision to go through with it was one where the surgeon leading the seminar had a big chart that went over all the benefits (80% reduction in this health issue, 100% reduction in this other health issue, blah blah blah - he went through a whole litany of problems obese people typically have, and how much the surgery was likely to improve or eliminate them). So I decided then and there that the benefit was well worth the cost, and I was going to do it. I, too, was worried about the horror stories - but weighing almost 400 lbs was also a horror story - a horror story waiting to happen. Plus those horror stories are rare. As Arabesque said, people post about problems because they're looking for advice or support. Those of us who never had issues aren't likely to post about that (e.g., "I had surgery four years ago and never had any problems!!" (you occasionally do see a post like that - esp when we're trying to reassure people who are scared to do it, but overall, people are much more likely to post if they've had a problem, since again, they're looking for support)). Also, the surgical techniques have vastly improved over the years, and having weight loss surgery nowadays is quite safe - it's not like it was back in the 60s and 70s, when it really WAS a risky proposition. anyway, I'm part of the crowd who say their only regret is that they didn't have the surgery sooner. In retrospect, I don't know why I waited so long. Best decision I ever made! -
Congrats on being a loser! (That's weight loss humor ~ I have to type in now when it's a good natured joke on this forum now) 🤗
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What was your "this is it" moment
LilaNicole20 replied to jamaro2795's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I decided after being embarrassed by the 100+lbs I had gained after going to a 4th of July party last year. Everyone knew how great I looked when I lost all my weight before (maintained 180lb weight loss for 16 years) and now I had to deal with them looking at me and not recognizing me because I had gotten so large. That was also the first time I took an edible (medical marijuana gummy) in about a year and a half (I had been pregnant and lost my babe at 25wks). It was also the first time I ran in a long time - I ran just like a sprint in the back yard and it felt good, I was remembering what that felt like. It was that car ride while leaving the party that I said this, I'm done being fat. This year will be different. -
Remember this sentence. I felt the same way. And it'll carry me when I stop being at the bottom of my loss - right now - and gain 10 lbs.
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Hi there - as I said in the reply in PMs, I thought I'd respond to these questions here so more people can hopefully benefit: It's probably surgeon dependent. There's not a lot of evidence that a bypass > 150cm induces a lot more weight loss than one at the now-standard 150cm. There's a lot of evidence it increases the risk of nutritional issues, though, because the longer it gets, the closer you are to a DS-like malabsorption. So consider your needs. The MGB is just a different bypass, not more or less full than RNY. The stomach is like a sleeve, but it's open in the end as opposed to the sleeve, meaning food passes through quickly. And that's the point of the surgery, to induce early satiety. If you're looking for forced restriction, MGB isn't it. I can eat whatever I want in basically the quantities I want. I just ... don't want to eat a lot because I feel full and satisfied! fast. But then again, if you're looking for forced restriction, therapy is where you want to go. No surgery will fix an eating disorder. Very. Hunger comes back, and I obviously can't compare any of them on myself, but the idea of MGB isn't to eliminate hunger. It's to make you feel feel and satisfied really fast, so you'll eat less, you'll naturally want to eat a better diet, and you'll be happy with that. Also, you asked somewhere else which surgeries had the most intestinal bypass. It goes like this: Band/Sleeve: None -- RNY -- MGB -- DS, with the loop-DS and longer-bypass MGB being fairly close to each other. -
What was your "this is it" moment
Smanky replied to jamaro2795's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I tried (REALLY tried) to lose my weight the analogue way through calorie counting and running. I was doing really well. I lost 25kg, and was fitter than I'd been in decades, my labs were brilliant, my GP was incredibly happy with my progress. Then the pandemic hit and I put some weight back on, and while for a while I was stable and managed to keep it in check, I still fell off the wagon. I gained all the weight back plus extra - that tired old familiar routine. I was devastated, and knew I was self-sabotaging, but couldn't get back into the calorie counting and fitness. That was my "I just cannot do this on my own" moment. I would always do well, get to a certain point, then just... let go and fall back into failure. I knew weight loss surgery was my final option, and after my best effort failed, I took out Private Health Cover, and set my WLS in motion. I 100% wish I'd done this ten years ago. Good luck with your journey! -
What was your "this is it" moment
Arabesque replied to jamaro2795's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Woke up one morning & decided enough & rang my GP for an appointment & referral. Had my surgery about 6 weeks later. Had been bouncing between 60 & 75kg all my adult like. Then menopause & I was 91 almost overnight. Tried to lose it for 3 years but couldn’t lose a pound. A friend had the surgery about 12 months earlier & was very happy so … I didn’t have any health issues except from aching feet from the rapid gain & then just some burning feet after (no more heels for me) but I knew it was in my future. You will have to make permanent changes to your eating habits if you want to have permanent success. But that is the same whatever means you use to lose weight - diet, medication, exercise. They are just tools like the surgery. The horror stories aren’t that common really. People write about them because they are seeking support & advice because they are uncommon. But all surgery has risks as do medications. Consider other weight loss drugs that were approved & then taken off the market because of adverse side effects that were discovered over time. If you’re worried, have a long honest chat with your surgeon about risks & the stats behind them. If you are relatively healthy now you are in a better place to have the surgery now than later when you may be experiencing some health issues. All the best whichever path you choose. -
Depressed and Sad ..8 months post op stalled and not moving ahead.
learn2cook replied to TheBusierBee's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
You are reaching out for help after identifying a possible problem. Your current success has been fantastic. It might take some sleuthing on your part to identify your needs and get help. I went to psychology today . com . (I’m afraid to mislead you with a bad link.). My family was not acknowledging grandfather’s memory loss and it devastated my son. The whole situation snowballed out of control and now we’re all in therapy to learn how to talk. Does this affect personal weight loss? Yes, but also taking care of myself mentally allows me to nurture myself and my kid! I’m sorry this has happened to you. You have the knowledge to persist in finding help for yourself. I believe weight loss is a mental game to switch from old ways of doing things. When we make the decision to get WLS it’s also a decision to try a new way of handling problems because life is often challenging. I know you can do it! -
3 years out and still afraid of gaining the weight back
Spinoza replied to RachaelLou's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I think you need to relax into it. Also if possible separate out your aspiration to lose more from your fear of regaining what you have lost (and kept off). What you have done is to lose 82lbs of fat and to keep it off for 2 years. Absolutely amazing - you used the tool surgery gave you so well. There was a bottoming out before that, which is really common. Sounds like the mid 150s might be the new set point you got from surgery. If you keep trying to push diet and exercise to get below that again you might find it difficult/impossible to maintain, and you could even mess with that new set point. I know we are human and will always aspire to more/better/faster, but could you live with being 155 if you measured that against the loss of the pressure/guilt to lose those 'last 18lbs'? With regard to regaining everything you have lost, I suspect there's a little devil whispering that to all of us. Shove a big wedge of cucumber in his mouth and shut him right up. You are the BOSS of weight loss. -
Zoloft - 7 months after RNY - weight gain?
Upgrade5.0 replied to mamabear_2_2's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I've been taking Zoloft for over a year and didn't notice any weight gain. I took Prozac before Zoloft and it caused hair loss. I love my Zoloft and how much better I feel mentally. I believe everyone's body reacts differently to anti-depressants. You'll have to figure out what works for you. They have been a life saver for me. 🙂 -
Going on 5 yrs this August. Stayed pretty much on track with my weight loss. Gain a pound or two then panic sets in and lose it. I tell people that I'm a mere mortal now when it comes to weight loss. My weight loss super powers have left me. For me, weight losses are in ounces not pounds. It's a daily struggle but one that I'll continue to make for my good health. My best to everyone.
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3 years out and still afraid of gaining the weight back
Danny Paul replied to RachaelLou's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I try to maintain my weight at 160lbs. If I go over I work to get back to 160. I think if we have a "red line" weight we are more apt to keep from gaining. I don't subscribe to the well I'm still down from my original weight mindset when the pounds start to pack on. It's diligence and mindful eating that will keep you on track. It is hard and I too fear regaining the weight every single day as the OP does. At this stage weight loss comes in ounces for me as I have lost the weight loss super powers that I had post op. -
Depressed and Sad ..8 months post op stalled and not moving ahead.
BigSue replied to TheBusierBee's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
First of all, don't lose sight of the fact that you have done great so far. You lost 95 pounds! That's fantastic. Since you said that you've stalled and are not losing, I'm assuming that means you haven't started regaining any of the weight, right? If that's the case, then you're in maintenance, so if you want to start losing again, you just have to lower your food intake and/or increase your exercise. Diet has a much bigger effect on weight loss than exercise, but exercise has a lot of other benefits, so it's a good idea to get back into exercise as well, even if it's just a little. Leslie Sansone's Walk at Home videos on YouTube are great, and you can start with short ones (there are several that are 15 minutes or less) if you don't want to or don't have time to do a longer walk or workout. Are you tracking everything you eat? If not, I think that's a great first step to kick-starting a change. Apps like MyFitnessPal or Baritastic make it easy, and tracking can help you identify the easiest changes to make. What are the healthiest foods that you already like to eat? Start eating those things more often, and cut out (or reduce) the stuff that's not worth the calories. If you like to cook, go on Pinterest to find some new recipes that are both tasty and healthy. Finally, I recommend not fixating on a specific number on the scale. Everyone is different, and you may not be able to get to 150, but that doesn't mean you failed. I bet you have already had some great non-scale victories with a 95-pound weight loss. Has your health improved? Are you more able to keep up with your kids? Can you wear clothes from non-plus size stores? Are you less self-conscious in social/professional situations? These things are all more meaningful than a number on the scale. -
You know, im thinking back now to when i first was nearing goal and I remember i too got a bit concerned about having to increase calories to stop the weight loss (i tried to find my original post but no luck). I did not think it would be possible. Then i also remember a few members further out than me telling me “don’t worry, it’ll happen”. And yep, they were right. So i get the bit of panic. i/we are/were in a diet groove of sorts and changing that up does of course bring about a bit of uncertainty and with that maybe some panic/anxiety. its easy for me to say now, looking back, to just trust yourself that you can navigate through the inevitable changes, but im saying so in hindsight, with the benefit of actually having gone though it already. In any case, good luck, vent away, voice your fears, broadcast your successes, and try if you can to know you aren’t alone in feeling this way. ❤️
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I had a similar conversation with my surgeon (but about my continued weight loss) & my response was the same: I can only eat what I can physically eat. I added snacks up to 5 a day & yes I felt like I was eating all day long. I still made pretty careful choices & added complex carbs & some more fat. Choosing from: cheese, humus or liverwurst & multigrain crackers, protein bar, yoghurt, fruit, roasted fava or chick peas, chia pudding, nuts, etc. I also use non diet salad dressings, full fat milk, add seeds & beans to meals. I don’t do sweet or breads, pasta, etc. & cook most of what I eat myself. I don’t drink shakes or need multi vitamins. Sometimes small change or swap in food choices can make big differences. I can only eat 1.5 eggs (approx 10g protein & 235 calories) but I can usually eat a full serve of rolled oats cause I keep it liquidy (make on milk, add seeds). approx 15g protein, 380 calories. No empty calories, lots of nutrients. My weight loss stopped when I was consuming about 1300 calories (about 18 months after surgery) but I’m not tall, have a smaller frame, am in my mid 50s & not very active. But you're not me & you may need more calories. You have to work out how much food your body needs to function effectively at a weight your happy at while living & enjoying your life how you want. It just takes time & some need more than others. Took me a good 2 years to get my portion sizes to about recommended sizes for most things. I still snack but about 3 times a day. Not sure how many calories I eat now as I’ve increased my protein intake a little due to an absorption issue (from gall surgery not sleeve surgery). Just start making small changes, try different things & see how you go & what works for you. It’s the only way.
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Depressed and Sad ..8 months post op stalled and not moving ahead.
Ephemeral replied to TheBusierBee's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Hi, I won't be the best one to help you with a "kickstart", so I will leave that to the ones who have way more knowledge and experience than I do. However, I want to let you know that your weight loss, in 8 months, has inspired me. You have lost a tremendous amount, and I'm confident that your children are proud of you. I'm sorry to hear about the family fight. Hopefully, things are on the mend and you can put it behind you. Follow your plan, and re-incorporate your daily walks. You don't have to start at 10K a day. Just make yourself go out there, even if it's just for a few minutes. You have accomplished so much in the past months. Be kind to yourself. We only have one shot at this life. Focus on you. I'm sending you many blessings your way. Tight virtual hug. ♥ -
Hi Friends, I'm 8 months post RNY. SW 308 lbs, CW 213 lbs. Height 159 cm. I was on a steady losing path until Jan this year due to my walking (10k) daily. However, we had a bad family fight in Jan which has led to me being depressed and lethargic. I've kinda stalled since then and there has been zero progress. I'm scared I'm throwing all this away and fearful since I'm overeating and not losing. Any advice on how to kickstart my weight loss again please. My goal weight is 150 lbs and I really want to do this for my kids. Please help me
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Hi Friends, I'm 8 months post RNY. SW 308 lbs, CW 213 lbs. Height 159 cm. I was on a steady losing path until Jan this year due to my walking (10k) daily. However, we had a bad family fight in Jan which has led to me being depressed and lethargic. I've kinda stalled since then and there has been zero progress. I'm scared I'm throwing all this away and fearful since I'm overeating and not losing. Any advice on how to kickstart my weight loss again please. My goal weight is 150 lbs and I really want to do this for my kids. Please help me
