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I'm getting so frustrated, 7 months out and almost 2 months stalled
learn2cook replied to SuziDavis's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
We all go through them and yes they are frustrating! I keep trying new things, tracking, more veggies, less exercise, heavier weights. My last stall busted because I started higher iron supplements. Another stall busted because I needed more sleep. One stall busted when I went to Great Wolf lodge and had fish and went swimming. Only you can crack the code. It takes patience and weight loss is a massive head game. Just keep tracking and doing what your center says. A quarter cup of dry cheerios to snack set me back. Keep measuring and moving, you will get there. You’ve moved past the honeymoon stage and it’s hard work, but weigh loss still happens up to 2 years out! -
Eating and drinking at same time.
learn2cook replied to Happy with two's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Early on I forgot and had a sip. It hurt so badly that I wouldn’t do it again. It’s for life. I was a nanny for a child with failure to thrive issues, and his dietitian suggested giving him milk (full fat) during meals to help him gain weight, stuffs more food into him. Mmmm, more weight on is not my goal. -
Post-Op : measure by volume or weight?
learn2cook replied to SemperVeritas's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Like Arabesque I was given volume to start. I got the little toddler totes by OXO in 2oz and 4oz sizes and cut up my meat as small as possible. At about 4months I was getting hungry and my dietitian said to weigh the food 4oz protein, which if I really cram chicken in there it works fine in the 4oz volume container. I prep most of my lunches in them. In the beginning I could only use the 2oz container. I started using them because I met a 25 year RNY person who kept the weight off the whole time and she used little kid Tupperware. I was soooo impressed I swore I would meal prep like her! -
Post-Op : measure by volume or weight?
SuziDavis replied to SemperVeritas's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I use a scale and measure by weight. It's more accurate as food can be made to fit and with dry ingredients, the temps and humidity change the volume. My nutritionist also recommended by weight. -
Eating and drinking at same time.
BayougirlMrsS replied to Happy with two's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
If you want to continue to lose weight and keep it off don't drink and eat. -
I'm getting so frustrated, 7 months out and almost 2 months stalled
SuziDavis posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I know stalls are normal, but man I am getting pissed at this point. I hit 7 months on March 17th, but I have been in a stall for almost 2 months. I have tried eating carbs then going back to no carbs. I tried upping the calories. I upped my exercise(and gained 2 lbs). I have no idea what else to do. So what other things have worked for people to get over a long term stall. 🤬 -
9 out of 12 supervised weight loss visits done sleep study done Abdominal ultrasound done H. Pylori test done nutrition class done nutrition class follow up done Now I have 3 more weigh ins and an endoscopy left to do. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that my insurance will approve this swiftly & I can get the May date I want.
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Agreed with everyone else. Nothing physically happens when you do a reset, it just snaps you back to being disciplined. Going back to protein shakes may be helpful in helping you lose that weight
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Eating and drinking at same time.
Creekimp13 replied to Happy with two's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I started drinking with meals about two months after surgery. People will be all authoritarian about it...and they mean well. But if you press your doctor (not the staff...your DOCTOR) about the difference between "eating" soup or protien drink, and having something to drink with dinner...the doc will admit it's nonsense. They just don't want you to push the food through constantly and continue to eat before you digest enough and feel full....this can make you gain weight and give you digestive upset. Also, reflux can be worse with more fluids if you lie down too soon after eating. I have a drink with every meal. I dont worry about it and I dont have issues. -
Well this weight loss journey has been never ending for me. I blamed Covid but really it’s been my lack of discipline. I’m down from 212.2 to 174. Dedicated to not giving up. Hoping to lose to 164 by next month.
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10 months post gastric not lossing
Arabesque replied to chulamex831's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
What does your surgeon & dietician say? You may have reached your new set point (the weight your body is happiest at) & as @catwoman7 said it is harder to lose & maintain at a lower weight if where you are now is your set point. Remember not everyone reaches their goal weight. Generally, eating 1000 calories should result in a loss. I’m only an inch taller than you, am not really active, & can maintain at my lower weight consuming about 1400 calories. Though we are all different & our bodies have different needs. The pouch reset isn’t a physical reset but a mental reset. If you’re already following your plan re calorie intake,food choices, & meeting protein, fluid & macro goals you are doing all the right things. Mashed potatoes & scrambled eggs are in the plan for many people from the third week. What you are then only affects you then. It doesn’t affect what is happening now. I agree with @summerseeker. Give your team a call @Sammy C & see if you can negotiate moving to al, or maybe some purées. Being in liquids only for 6+ weeks seems excessive but your surgeon may have a reason for it. -
Yep it’s a just head reset. Just go back to what you were eating when you reached your maintenance weight or just before. That’s the caloric intake you need to maintain at that lower weight so if you eat at that level you will lose to get back to there.Though it sounds like you know the cause of your gain. Hit your old protein & fluid goals & keep your eating low fat, low sugar & low carbs (look to whole & multi grains & complex carbs not simple high processed ones) as you need. Remember that is how you will have to always eat (food choices & calories) if you want to maintain that lower weight. If where you are now is actually your set point (the weight your body is happiest at) as @Spinoza mentioned it will be harder to maintain a lower weight.
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Post-Op : measure by volume or weight?
Arabesque replied to SemperVeritas's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was given volume limits to begin which is easiest in the early stages. Once on more solid foods I’d check the weight of solid proteins mainly so I could work out how much of say a piece of steak or a chicken thigh I could eat. (I weigh befire I cook.) It just depends upon what you’re eating. Most difficult is meat on a bone like a pork or lamb cutlet. Then it’s a guessing game & experience in eyeballing size. -
Post-Op : measure by volume or weight?
Tomo replied to SemperVeritas's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
If I have a scale, I weigh it otherwise, I measure volume or eyeball it too if I don't have either. I make a point to always measure my food, whether by volume or weight, otherwise little by little my volume would increase. I can't trust myself to stay around 4 ounces like others can so I have to measure or the weight may creep back up. I try to stay around 112g (4 oz) with a meal that contains any heavy food like protein. If it's a fruit snack, like watermelon that is mostly water, I weigh a bowl with the fruit before and then after to get the weight I had eaten so I could track my calories accurately. -
@UnderTheCaliSun congratulations on your weightloss journey and finding a way to keep it off. I just had a Revision done of TORe and I’m just now hearing about Wegovy, Semaglutide and Mounjaro. I’m looking to get prescribed semaglutide to go along with my revision to ensure I hit my weight loss goal and help regulate my glucose and cholesterol.
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Post-Op : measure by volume or weight?
GreenTealael replied to SemperVeritas's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Early on I measured by volume (1/8 cup etc), later by weight (3 oz of protein) and now by sight (palm of my hand). I think it’s easier by volume in the beginning because you can estimate how much food can comfortably “fit” when you aren’t necessarily worried about calories. But weighing helps when it comes to protein estimation when you reach the solid food stage. Good luck! -
Bariatric Surgery Patients and the Benefits of One Per Day Multivitamin Capsules
Alex Brecher posted a topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
Introduction Bariatric surgery is an effective treatment for obesity and obesity-related health conditions, including diabetes, sleep apnea, and hypertension [1]. With this transformative procedure comes a new way of life that often requires significant adjustments to dietary habits. One essential aspect of post-bariatric surgery care is ensuring patients receive adequate vitamins and minerals to support their overall health. This article will discuss the importance of using a one-per-day multivitamin capsule for bariatric surgery patients, address the misconception that these patients have difficulties swallowing capsules, and review relevant medical studies. The Importance of Multivitamin Capsules for Bariatric Surgery Patients Essential nutrient absorption: Bariatric surgery can lead to reduced absorption of essential nutrients due to changes in the gastrointestinal tract [2]. A one-per-day multivitamin capsule ensures that patients receive the vitamins and minerals they need in a single, convenient dose. A study published in the journal Obesity Surgery found that multivitamin supplementation significantly improved nutrient deficiencies in post-bariatric surgery patients [3]. Compliance and ease of use: A one-per-day multivitamin capsule is easier for patients to incorporate into their daily routine compared to multiple doses. This can lead to improved compliance and better long-term health outcomes. Research conducted by the American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery (ASMBS) supports the use of single daily doses to promote adherence to supplementation protocols [4]. Reduced risk of deficiencies: Post-bariatric surgery patients are at an increased risk of vitamin and mineral deficiencies, particularly in iron, calcium, vitamin D, and B vitamins [5]. A one-per-day multivitamin capsule helps to prevent these deficiencies and supports overall well-being. A systematic review published in the journal Clinical Nutrition found that multivitamin supplementation was associated with a reduced risk of micronutrient deficiencies following bariatric surgery [6]. Debunking the Myth: Bariatric Surgery Patients and Capsule Swallowing There is a misconception that bariatric surgery patients have difficulties swallowing capsules. However, no medical evidence supports this belief. Capsules are designed to dissolve as soon as they get wet, making them an ideal choice for bariatric surgery patients. Rapid dissolution: Capsules dissolve quickly in the presence of moisture, ensuring that they do not cause any issues with swallowing or digestion for bariatric surgery patients. A study published in the International Journal of Pharmaceutics found that capsules typically disintegrate within a few minutes of coming into contact with moisture [7]. Easier on the stomach: Capsules tend to be gentler on the stomach compared to tablets, as they do not contain binders or fillers that can irritate the stomach lining. This is particularly beneficial for bariatric surgery patients, who may experience increased sensitivity in their gastrointestinal tract. Enhanced absorption: Some vitamins and minerals are better absorbed in a liquid or capsule form rather than a tablet, ensuring bariatric surgery patients receive the maximum benefit from their supplementation. Research published in the Journal of Dietary Supplements has shown that certain nutrients, such as vitamin D, have improved bioavailability in capsule form [8]. Conclusion For bariatric surgery patients, a one-per-day multivitamin capsule offers numerous benefits, including convenience, compliance, and reduced risk of nutrient deficiencies. Contrary to popular belief, there is no medical evidence to suggest that bariatric surgery patients have difficulties swallowing capsules. In fact, capsules dissolve quickly and are easier on the stomach, making them an ideal choice for post-bariatric surgery care. Encouraging patients to adopt a one-per-day multivitamin capsule regimen can support their long-term health and well-being after undergoing bariatric surgery. Medical studies have demonstrated the benefits of multivitamin supplementation in preventing nutrient deficiencies, promoting adherence to supplementation protocols, and enhancing the absorption of certain vitamins and minerals. Bariatric surgery patients can feel confident in their choice of a one-per-day multivitamin capsule to support their journey toward improved health and quality of life. Empower Yourself: A Personal Testimony As a bariatric surgery patient and a knowledgeable expert in the field, I have personally experienced the transformative effects of incorporating a one-per-day multivitamin capsule into my daily routine. Throughout my journey, I have learned that self-care and attentiveness to my nutritional needs are vital for long-term success and well-being. The adoption of a one-per-day multivitamin capsule has provided me with the assurance that I am receiving the essential nutrients required to thrive in my post-bariatric surgery life. The Power of Community It's important to remember that we are not alone on this journey. As bariatric surgery patients, we are part of a supportive community united by a common goal: to achieve and maintain a healthy lifestyle. By sharing our experiences, challenges, and successes, we can inspire and empower each other to make informed choices about our nutritional health. I encourage you to connect with others who have undergone bariatric surgery, exchange stories, and discuss the benefits of incorporating a one-per-day multivitamin capsule into your daily routine. By learning from each other and sharing our knowledge, we can collectively overcome the challenges of post-surgery life and experience the unparalleled benefits of one per day multivitamin capsules. Stay Informed, Stay Healthy The world of bariatric surgery and nutrition is constantly evolving. To ensure that you are equipped with the latest information and best practices, it's crucial to stay informed and up-to-date with recent scientific studies, guidelines, and recommendations. Continually educate yourself on the benefits and best practices surrounding one-per-day multivitamin capsules and other nutritional supplements. By staying informed, you can make the best decisions for your health and well-being, ensuring that you are providing your body with the essential nutrients it needs to thrive. References: [1] Mingrone, G., Panunzi, S., De Gaetano, A., et al. (2012). Bariatric Surgery versus Conventional Medical Therapy for Type 2 Diabetes. New England Journal of Medicine, 366(17), 1577-1585. https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMoa1200111 [2] Mechanick, J. I., Youdim, A., Jones, D. B., et al. (2013). Clinical Practice Guidelines for the Perioperative Nutritional, Metabolic, and Nonsurgical Support of the Bariatric Surgery Patient—2013 Update: Cosponsored by American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists, the Obesity Society, and American Society for Metabolic & Bariatric Surgery. Obesity, 21(S1), S1-S27. https://doi.org/10.1002/oby.20461 [3] Aills, L., Blankenship, J., Buffington, C., Furtado, M., & Parrott, J. (2008). ASMBS Allied Health Nutritional Guidelines for the Surgical Weight Loss Patient. Obesity Surgery, 18(10), 1140-1142. https://doi.org/10.1007/s11695-008-9631-1 [4] Mechanick, J. I., Youdim, A., Jones, D. B., et al. (2013). Clinical Practice Guidelines for the Perioperative Nutritional, Metabolic, and Nonsurgical Support of the Bariatric Surgery Patient —2013 Update: Cosponsored by American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists, the Obesity Society, and American Society for Metabolic & Bariatric Surgery. Obesity, 21(S1), S1-S27. https://doi.org/10.1002/oby.20461 [5] Parrott, J., Frank, L., Rabena, R., Craggs-Dino, L., Isom, K. A., & Greiman, L. (2017). American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery Integrated Health Nutritional Guidelines for the Surgical Weight Loss Patient 2016 Update: Micronutrients. Surgery for Obesity and Related Diseases, 13(5), 727-741. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.soard.2016.12.018 [6] Ernst, B., Thurnheer, M., & Schmid, S. M. (2013). Evidence for the Necessity to Systematically Assess Micronutrient Status Prior to Bariatric Surgery. Clinical Nutrition, 32(1), 66-72. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.clnu.2012.07.012 [7] Podczeck, F., & Jones, B. E. (2004). The In Vitro Disintegration of Hard Gelatin Capsules Exposed to Different Conditions of Temperature and Relative Humidity. International Journal of Pharmaceutics, 280(1-2), 197-206. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijpharm.2004.04.018 [8] Traub, M. L., Finnell, J. S., Bhandiwad, A., Ochoa, G., Sasson, N., & Kotsopoulos, J. (2014). Impact of Vitamin D3 and Omega-3 Fatty Acid Supplementation on Serum 25-Hydroxyvitamin D Concentrations in a Randomized Controlled Trial. Journal of Dietary Supplements, 11(3), 324-334. https://doi.org/10.3109/19390211.2014.921849 By continuing to learn from one another, staying informed about the latest research, and making informed decisions about our health, we can support each other in our shared goal of a healthier, happier life after bariatric surgery. The use of a one-per-day multivitamin capsule plays a critical role in this journey, providing essential nutrients, promoting adherence to supplementation protocols, and minimizing the risk of deficiencies. Embrace the power of community and knowledge as you embark on your new life and make the most of the benefits that a one-per-day multivitamin capsule can offer. -
November Surgery Buddies!!!
Spinoza replied to Tristenhilpert97's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I am just going to post an update because this has been kind of my diary thread (never having started an actual weight loss diary). 16 months post op, I have been the same weight for about 6 or 8 weeks now (142lbs) so I think I'm done losing. BMI is 21. I eat about 1500 calories a day and I think I'll have to stay close to that forever (so small compared to what I was eating 16 months ago!!) I can eat a good full cup of food at a sitting. I can chug about 7 or 8 swallows of fluid in one go. Loving my new life. I hope all my November 2021 buddies are too xxx -
Hi all, Mounjaro has been AMAZING for me! Like @Tupelo and @vsgchickI lost the regain from hitting menopause and I have lost additional. I am down to 138 lbs which is my lowest weight since college. I'm not underweight at all. I worked my way up to 7.5 mg and that was my sweet spot. I hit maintenance and have slowly stepped my way back down to 2.5 mg. I was still losing on 5mg as I stepped down but so far I haven't lost anymore on 2.5. I'm on my second month of maintenance at 2.5 mg and I bounce between 138 and 141 depending on salt intake and water weight but I'm very happy with my weight and size. Once my coupon runs out in June, I'll likely transition to something else as I cannot afford the retail pricing for semiglutide or terzepitide. The difficulty is that my BMI is now 23 so I would not qualify under insurance for obesity medication. We are submitting info for a PA under Insulin Resistance, PCOS, Nonalcoholic Fatty Liver and preventative/maintenance of WL after surgery to see if we can get either Mounjaro or Ozempic approved. I am hoping to stay on Mounjaro. It works amazing for me and I never had any big side effects. I agree that if this had been around before my surgery in 2018, I probably would not have had or needed surgery but I also believe that it is HIGHLY effective for those who have had any regain after WLS. It gives a very similar feel to that first 90 day restriction.
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Such varying experiences on here I see. I was sleeved on 2/22/23 and am completely on all normal foods even a few days before the 4 week mark. I do have to separate eating and drinking. It is amazing to have control over food. Felt amazing to have one slice of pizza and be able to say no to more. I actually miss drinking a 'big ole chug' of liquid a lot more than eating! I have had a few doubts along the way but constantly remind myself that I was never able to consistently stay at a lower weight for the first 40 years so why do I think I could do it now without the sleeve...."food" for thought!
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Nutrition Goals - Unrealistic with food?
Spinoza replied to Victoria_Faith's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I feel your frustration OP. Hitting your stride can be really difficult. My advice 5 weeks out would be to try to hit your fluid goal and your protein goal as many days as you can, and to let everything else fall into place around those. Don't fret too much about calories at your stage - you are unlikely to be able to physically get enough in to gain weight, or even be close to maintaining your current weight - you are programmed to lose right now. Be mindful of everything you take in and aim to form habits for a new and healthy life. I wish you the very best of luck. -
Sleeved on 2/8 and just had my 6 week check up. Cleared for all foods as long as I stick to 400-600 calories. Found that I can eat a small amount of the mushroom chicken and pepper steak from Panda Express. It has been a life saver a couple times I was out and desperately needed a some calories/about an ounce. Also, full clearance to workout. Starting slow with resistance and weight training.
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Hi Bridge! Can you fill us in on some of your stats? If you only had a little weight to lose in the first place it might be that your body has gained a little and settled into its new 'set weight' now. If you had loads to lose and you didn't quite get there then it might be helpful instead to unpick exactly what you did straight after your surgery. I think the sleeve 'reset' might in many cases just be going back to the rules your team gave you after your surgery. Lots of fluids, protein first at every meal, veg second, carbs last. You are still early in your journey so I suspect if you go right back to those basics you still have time to lose loads more weight (if you need to). I have only just stopped losing weight 16 months after my sleeve. You will get good advice here, so well done for seeking help and best of luck!
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Post-Op : measure by volume or weight?
SemperVeritas posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm almost 3 weeks post op (bypass). I plan to ask my NUT, but how did you measure your food, especially in the early days? Previously, when calorie counting, I would weigh my food. But now when I read the suggested meal plan it says stuff like 3 tablespoons cream of wheat and 2 tablespoons chicken (made that combo up 😅). So I've been measuring by volume because I have a one ounce scoop/or tablespoon. But there is a considerable difference between the volume and weight for most foods, so I'm curious!