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How can I effectively build muscle without "eating big"
ItsAMe98 posted a topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
some information: I'm 24 73kg/160,9lbs 179cm/5'10. So I had my surgery around August of 2019. I lost around 50Kg from than till now but I don't wanne lose any more. I started going to the gym last week but before that I also did 3-4 month at home training because I didn't wanne go to the gym before i could at least do something. (stupid to think like that but yeah...) My arms looked like twigs and still do but at least there is a some muscle to see compared to 4 months ago. All the information I find online regarding gaining muscle is all about "eat big to get big" but that's the thing i can't eat big, like probably most of you guys. I have been drinking protein shakes 2X a day protein bars... and other food that contain protein to at least get as much as I can let's say around 80g of protein But I don't see much progress (counting the 4 month workouts at home) and I don't know if I should just trust what I’m doing now or change something... Sorry about my writing, I would say sorry about my English but even in my langue I write with many spelling mistakes. -
Thank God for this question and advice because I have been going crazy! I added in veggies and poultry during puree period and gas and bloating is back!! Weight loss stall broke one day and I lost a lb abut then gained it back the next day!!😫
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Anyone taking ozempic after having surgery?
Smanky replied to Vicky Sue's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I would be... definitely questioning that. 115 pounds down in 6 months is a huge loss, so you're doing really well as it is. Stay on track, and you'll lose that 60lbs in another 6 just fine without needing a drug that increases nausea and makes you not hungry. I sincerely hope it's not the new normal! If you were struggling with a return to bingeing or overeating and you were gaining, then maybe I could see the reason? But if you're doing fine, which you seem to be, then I'm scratching my head. -
Whole-Food Plant-Based Nutrition Resources
feedyoureye replied to PollyEster's topic in Vegetarian or Vegan Eating
I had the sleeve don in 2010. I was lacto ovo vegetarian the whole time. I lost slowly for the first two rears, then started to gain. I employed 5-2 semi fasting program and lost to goal (90lbs) by year three. I maintained for less than a year, then slowly started to gain until around 2019 when i platoued at 20 lbs under my initial weight. Around that time i was diagnosed with breast cancer. I went to a “surviver clinic” run by my medical plan(Kaiser). They recommended i go whole food plant based to reduce most causes of premature death. I was motivated. That was 4 years ago. I am currently down 35 pounds from my high. I wish i had done this insted of surgery, because whole food plant based relies on eating a lot of food to work. I can eat quite abit now… i guess my stomach has stretched out quite a bit, but i still cant eat as much as i could before surgery. Check out nutritionfacts.org for lots of current research on nutrition, weight loss and health. -
Yes, frustrating, but as everyone has said stalls are common. They are also an important part of your weight loss. It’s the time your body takes to respond to the stress of your weight loss & reset itself to your lower weight & needs like certain hormones & your metabolism. I used to think of them as your body taking a breath, a timeout, shutting the door and saying I don’t want to talk to anyone just like you may at a stressful time. I recommend the videos by Dr Matthew Weiner & Dr John Pilcher. Very helpful on a wide range of topics.
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Just want a friend to talk to candidly
Sigh replied to JustJovi's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Eh, I operate fairly independently. Not sure id call it brave or just taking matters into my own hands. Insurance would cover, but I was borderline and was told not to lose any weight while i went thru process of 3-4 months to get approved. I said screw that and went to Mexico three weeks later for the same price as my out of pocket would have been. I could NOT carry that weight any longer. Plus, the kids can pretty much care for themselves- I dont have to actually carry anyone like i did after breast reduction after my second kid. The ex husband was pretty useless to help back then, so I see doing it alone as an improvement. No one to complain about it or worry with wringing hands over nothing . Plus, I hate to say it but my body is invisible to the kids- they are too worried about themselves- as teens do. -
I'm getting so frustrated, 7 months out and almost 2 months stalled
BriarRose replied to SuziDavis's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Sometimes our bodies just decide to hold onto where we are right now. I am 12 years out. I had a wonderful Birthday week - and then some celebrations .... and a trip to Disneyland and ate meals out. I literally gained 5 pounds in a week. Shrug. I went back to what I do.. high protein, low to no processed carbs, lots of fruit and veggies, yogurt, cheese, nuts.... and for the first week and a half....nothing. the 5 lb weight just sat there. I ignored it. Two weeks, nothing, three weeks.... finally this week... it all came off. I did NOTHING different. It just happens that way (for me, at least) sometimes. It WILL come off. Give your body time. Losing weight quickly as we do in the first year is traumatic to our bodies. If your body shuts down, there may be a reason. I always figure my body is telling me that food is limited and we are having a famine ..... I explain to myself that this is not pre-history. I have a freezer and a stove and food. Eventually it will Happen. -
Hi all. I was scheduled to have surgery last month but due to extenuating circumstances had to reschedule my surgery the evening before it was scheduled. I am now due to have surgery at the end of this week but am very concerned about one thing I’ve been reading on other forums:orthostatic hypotension. People reporting light headedness, fainting spells and extremely low bp when getting up from a seated or laying down position. is this common??? How many people here have had this? I watched my dad suffer from that for years (part of another neurological condition he had) and it was the most traumatic thing and I don’t want that for myself. In his case I think it was also unmanageable because of his other condition but I wonder can anyone share some insight like how easy it to treat/cure for weight loss surgery?? thanks in advance
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Hey ya'll...been a minute!!!
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thanks so much, everyone!! I'm just keeping my fingers, toes, and eyes crossed that I can get to the end of all this, get my revision, and go about living my life again. Every time I come out of a surgery, the surgeon tells me he found more stuff to remove. Last time I told him "No more looking around in there. Just get in, remove what's there, and get out" He laughed. I was serious. As expected, my weight loss has kind of stopped due to the weird dietary issues and not being able to do the kind of work outs my body is used to. But I'm not gaining, so I'm ok with it. I know in my heart that I'll lose the rest of my weight after my revision. Can't wait to finally feel better and get back to normal. And still, even with all this, I don't regret my sleeve. I hate that I had complications, but I know I never would have gotten to where I am now weight and health wise if I hadn't had the surgery. -
just wait it out. It'll break on its own. Stalls are a very normal part of weight loss - this will likely be the first among several. Just stick to your program and stay off the scale for a few days. They typically last 1-3 weeks. Once it breaks, you'll be on your way again.
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I am 18 days post op and I'm already at a stall. My first week and a half I lost a total of 18lbs and now I'm still at the same weight. Any advice anyone can give me to break this stall. Sent from my moto g power (2022) using BariatricPal mobile app
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Just want a friend to talk to candidly
summerseeker replied to JustJovi's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
This is a friendly, kind, safe and helpful place. We are all really glad that we found it. I have found great help here and hope I pass some forward too. I do not know anyone personally who has had this surgery done. I did not tell anyone but my son and husband initially. Women can be really bitchy and I did not need the uneducated backlash. Now that I have lost all this weight, I am more mobile and can get out and about. I have started to grow my circle of friends. I volunteer at a charity shop one day a week, its great fun and I love it. Its great to look forwards to some thing again instead of being almost housebound -
Just want a friend to talk to candidly
Arabesque replied to JustJovi's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I was fortunate as I had a friend who had undergone the surgery & then another did it the next year. Their friendship & support was very helpful. I also made some lovely friends through this forum too. We’re of a similar age, share interests, had our initial surgery within a couple of years of each other.We chat & share what’s happening in our lives (& not just weight related) via our own private group chat now & there is another with whom I email. So you never know who you may meet & click with here. -
Met with surgeon, I just don't know...
mkellee replied to LandofHopeandDreams's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hi Mark. I was taking 3 hbp meds plus an upper dose of my heart med Carvedilol, which also controls hbp. I had my sleeve 2/1/23. I now am off the 3 hbp meds and lowered the dose of carvedilol. My Dr's are thrilled. I'm a slower weight lover but inches is another story. I first decided to do the sleeve in July 2021. At that time my eating and drinking instantly changed. I was 345. At the time of surgery ,2/1/23, I weighed 293. Now 266. That's 79 pounds. And since my haiatal Hernia surgery in August 2022 I've lost 38.75 inches body wide. I'm thrilled. You go for it!!!! B est decision I've made in quite a while. [emoji6] Sent from my SM-S901U using BariatricPal mobile app -
Pancreatitis :(
Arabesque replied to SymphonyOfDreams's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I wondered gall stones too which can cause pancreatitis. As can high cholesterol, diabetes, obesity & abdominal surgery (though like catwoman7 I can’t recall any mentions of it here either). Gall stones are common with obesity & high cholesterol & can form as a result of rapid weight loss & high. Often cholesterol levels increase with weight loss too (releases into your blood as you lose fat). So it seems your chances for it occurring are probably higher at the moment. Hopefully this is just temporary & it responds quickly to treatment. -
Your experiences are quite common at this stage. I wasn’t hungry or interested in eating either and I too just sipped my shakes & soups for hours in the liquid stage. I got in less than 300 calories in the beginning. I only ‘ate’ two meals during the liquid stage & from purées started to eat to a routine so I could better get my nutrients in. However, I was never given a caloric goal only protein & fluids & portion size recommendations. And it took a while to regularly reach those goals & that was okay. You can only physically eat what you can especially this soon after surgery. Doesn’t matter how much someone tells you you should be eating. If your tummy can’t tolerate more then you just can’t. I was barely eating 900 calories by 6 months. My surgeon & dietician were okay with this because I was eating a variety of nutrient dense foods & my blood work never showed I was lacking or low in anything. It was almost my 3rd year before I could eat 1400/1500 calories. Many eat more but this is fine for my age, height, gender, weight & activity level. That was my experience but others will have very different stories because we’re all different. Keep working at getting in your protein & fluids. Try explaining to your dietician that your surgeon is okay with what you’re doing. That you physically can’t eat that many calories at the moment while you’re still healing but you’ll keep working at it. If they won’t listen maybe try to find another dietician who is more understanding & willing to be more flexible for you & your needs. No one way will completely suit everyone. Plans should be flexible enough to be modified so it works for you whether it be your calories, portions, activity level, specific nutritional needs, medical needs, progress timelines, etc. PS - Try diluting your shakes, broths etc. & count the extra towards your 32oz water goal. Fluids don’t have to be just plain water. Try green or herbal teas, squeeze some lemon, lime or orange juice into your water, protein water, milk, yoghurt drinks, electrolyte drinks (an little boost of energy too) & then rotate the ones you enjoy throughout your day.
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Met with surgeon, I just don't know...
Roxane replied to LandofHopeandDreams's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
So many great insights here. Weight loss will definitely help when it comes to getting rid of other comorbidities. To me, it sounds like the benefits will far outweigh the cons here. -
This is such a hard journey for all, and completely life changing in more ways than one. The change of losing weight, the change of not having the choice to eat whatever you want, and I'm sure many other changes along the way as well. Keep "fighting the good fight" as they say, it will be worth it in the end!
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4 weeks post-op and no sense of fullness
EMPRESS888 replied to sweetohiohoney's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Had anyone who felt this way years ago had successful weight loss?? -
Mounjaro Post Sleeve!!
Roxane replied to la0525's topic in GLP-1 & Other Weight Loss Medications (NEW!)
A friend of mine had bariatric surgery a few years ago, lost weight and she did slowly gain some weight back. She has been doing these injections for the last few months. She does get sick on occasion, but she has lost another 17 pounds. She looks great! I hope you all do as well! -
I'm not sure if this helps or not, and I know that everyone is different...I have had more success with a "clean" diet: hard boiled eggs for breakfast, grilled or baked chicken with a veggie for lunch and dinner. Whenever I do low calorie diets with processed food, I can't seem to lose any weight.
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this is a lot to unpack, but one thing I wanted to mention is that most people lose their sense of hunger for up to a year, so that is not unusual. Mine came back at five months out, and honestly, even though it was weird to get used to, I wish I'd been one of the small minority whose hunger never comes back. It was so much easier to stick to my plan and lose weight when I was never hungry and didn't give a flying flip about food. I actually found it pretty liberating after awhile. you won't start feeling restriction until you're on solid food. Purees and fluids go through your stomach pretty fast. As far as hunger and fullness signals, again, if you're like most of us, you're going to lose your sense of hunger for a few months - up to a year. And when those signals return, they might be different than before. I don't feel "full" the way I did pre-surgery. It's hard to describe, but when I start feeling pressure in my chest, I know it's time to stop eating or I'm going to be sorry. Some people have even weirder signals, like sneezing or a runny nose.
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I gained weight on one of the diets I went on in the past. I was eating a lot of fruit and they have natural sugars, but they are still sugars. Also, the doctor told me I had the metabolism of a hibernating bear. Talk to your nutritionist and go over the food you are eating and if it might be sabotaging your diet.
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I hope you can find help OP. I think (know!) the surgical restriction helps a lot but we also need to address our underlying issues with food while we have that restriction in order to keep our weight off in the longer term. If you can connect with a bariatric therapist asap to check what you're doing that you shouldn't be that might be a good first step. I wish you ALL the luck xxx We're here to help if we can.
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I had my 2 week post op appointments yesterday with my Nutritionist and the Dr. in charge of the Nutrition Clinic, the pharmacist and my surgeon. The Nutrition Doc put me on the bariatric scale and my body fat % is the same, so I'm losing as much muscle as fat. During the full liquid phase I was consuming an average of 534 calories a day, 66oz of water/shakes and 72.4g protein. I didn't just drink shakes, I ate yogurt 2x a day and pudding/protein too. I walked around my house quite a bit, but I only got about 2 hours of "exercise" because THAT incision was so painful the first week, and the second week somehow I triggered my back pain (the surgeon said that since it started hurting when I tried to increase my walking time, that the surgery could have triggered it). OK, that's the background. My Nutrition Doctor was disapproving of my calorie intake and told me I should have been getting at least 800 calories a day (she never told me that, my goals were 48-64oz of fluid and 60-80g protein). She said if I needed to, to sip on protein shakes during the day to bring my calorie and protein up. My surgeon said that getting less than 600 calories a day isn't unusual and not to worry about it, don't make myself eat. That I should take it easy until the episode with my back ends and then try to start walking and use some light weights to start building muscle. So, it wouldn't be a problem if I could do both, but now I'm on pureed/soft foods and as much as I was looking forward to it, I just don't want to eat. I didn't feel hungry during the last phase either, but I ate and drank as scheduled. It wasn't a problem, but it did take ALL day. Now, I get a few bites down and I don't feel full, nauseous or in pain, I just REALLY don't want it. It's confusing because I don't know how to read the signals anymore. Since the surgery, my stomach will growl and my mind says "I must be hungry" and at the same time "I don't feel hungry". So now, am I full or am I just repulsed because my tastes have changed? I used to drink plain water all the time, now it tastes bad. Do I go back to full liquids and add more shakes so I can get the 800 calories or do I press on with Phase 3 and try to find soft foods that I can make a whole meal out of and not worry about the calories? I don't feel like I can do both because while I had no problem with Phase 2, I don't think I can get the extra calories/protein while trying different foods that I may not want to eat after a few bites. I'm supposed to get at least 32oz of fluid from water, not shakes.
