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Skeptical spouse
Breaking notsobad replied to Breaking notsobad's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
@jeannjiebug Thank you. Like you my wife doesn't think I'm that big. I hide my weight well. I think we are similar. I am 5' 71/2" and at 240 lbs. What I wouldn't give to be under 180#. Good for you. I can't remember the last time I was below 200. First consultation with the surgeon is next Monday 2/20. I'm pretty sure it's for me. -
Calories vs. Net Calories
smc124 replied to CHRISSER27's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I’m stalling right now too. Trying to ignore it and push through. The nice thing about this surgery is when a stall hits we have the confidence to know if we stick to our dr’s plan for it we know something going to give and we will start losing again. Not fun when we are in one but I find it so much less stressful than weight loss stalks prior to surgery. I’m a little over two months out and also active. My team doesn’t have us focus on calories on protein and hydration though from tracking on lose it i know I am generally consuming between 600-750 total calories and burning 500 in my dedicated workout time with my active calories burned on my Apple Watch barely ever finishing under 950. I think most of the weight loss we see in these early months is more closely a result of the restriction and absence of gherlin than anything. Also important to remember caloric deficit for pounds loss is itself a very imprecise and variable. Follow the instructions of your team and you’ll be through this before you know it. -
that's about where I was at that point. there are a lot of factors that influence your rate of weight loss, most of which you have little to no control over (age, gender, metabolic rate, what % of your body weight is muscle, starting BMI, how much you lost prior to surgery, etc). The only two things you DO have a lot of control over is how closely you stick to your program and your activity level. If you do well with those, you're good - and you WILL lose weight, whether fast or slow.
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Liquid diet how to taking it seriously [emoji17]
NP_WIP replied to Quetta89's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Agree that the liquid diet is not for weight loss but for safety. That thought alone allowed me to do it, I did not want any complications or worse to be opened up and closed back up because of the liver size, I saw some videos on YouTube that made it easier to stick it through. I was allowed a lean dinner, maybe they can let you have that? -
BARELY any weight loss in first two weeks??
NP_WIP replied to MaameWata's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
As everyone has said stick to your plan and try not to compare yourself to others. All surgeons have different plans, and you will see the most weight loss from those that were on a liquid diet for longer periods. For example, my sister had the sleeve done in April and I in November, her weight loss is higher than mine at 3 months post op even though she was 215 at the time of surgery and I was 268, but she was on liquids for a full month, pureed for 2 weeks and softs for 2 weeks. I was allowed pureed food 10 days post op. We can see how much weight someone has lost but everyone's journey is different. Know that if you do what you are supposed to be doing and put the effort in, you will lose the weight. -
February 2023 surgery dates!
SirKat replied to Erin18's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Doing laundry and putting away clothes I realize I may not ever wear some of these again. It’s a weird feeling. I have sufficient clothes I think for the first 50 lbs of weight loss, just from prior weight loss. My clothes from when I weighed less are from almost 20 years ago. Maybe they’ll come back in style? -
BARELY any weight loss in first two weeks??
TRAVELRN replied to MaameWata's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
As I am sure many will or have told you this is not a sprint its a marathon. Its a life long change in habits. Continue to follow your plan. you will have a lot of plateaus but have spurts of losing in groups. The best thing I can say is be patient, learn what your eating cues are and make changes for the long haul instead of the immediate gratification we all sometimes expect and look for. You don't gain 100 lbs in one sitting and you dont lose it in one either. Speedy recovery and keep a diary. This helped me figure when I ate (stress, anxiety etc.). I wish you well. -
Liquid diet how to taking it seriously [emoji17]
Sleeve_Me_Alone replied to Quetta89's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Generally, the pre-op diet isn't about weight (although it can be if you have surgery or insurance requirements to meet). But more frequently, its to reduce the size of your liver to make it safe for the surgeon to do the surgery. Obesity OFTEN enlarges your liver which can get in the way of WLS and can pose a risk of complications, so the pre-op diet helps to shrink your liver and open up space for the surgeon to operate safely. My suggestion would be to do exactly what they tell you to. ONE - its for your safety and, TWO - having the knowledge that YOU DID IT will absolutely help you stick it out when it gets harder post-op. And it gets much, much harder. You'll want to start getting into the mindset that there are simply non-negotiables post-op and that doing what you need to now will set you up for success long term and help you commit to those changes. -
BARELY any weight loss in first two weeks??
catwoman7 replied to MaameWata's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
if you've been following your clinic's recommendations, then it's likely water retention from the IV fluids. That's basically salt water, and a lot of people retain that. There are some people on here who've even weighed 10 lbs more when they left the hospital than when they arrived! It can take a week or occasionally longer to work its way out of your system. stick to your plan and the weight will come off. Everyone is different due to different factors, many of which you have little to no control over (like age, gender, starting BMI, metabolic level, how much weight you lost prior to surgery, etc). The two things you DO have control over is how closely you stick to your plan and your activity level. If you do well with those, the weight will come off, whether fast or slow. also, the 20 lb loss you said you think you should have lost in the first two weeks - banish that thought. If you started out at 600+ lbs, then yes - maybe - but for us more "normal" WLS patients, losing 20 lbs in two weeks just doesn't happen. Most of us lose somewhere in the 15-25 lb range the first MONTH. Yes of course you will find people who've lost more or less than that the first month, but they're outliers. You're probably doing just fine. Give it more time and remember to stick to your plan! I thought i was a terribly slow loser - and I WAS a bit behind others with similar statistics (starting weight, etc), but I ended up losing over 200 lbs. -
BARELY any weight loss in first two weeks??
summerseeker replied to MaameWata's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Many people on here have said they are weighing heavier after their surgery and say its because they are pumped full of water to hydrate them for the weeks after when its tough to drink for many. So you are really lucky that you have no issues there. Water can weigh heavy so just give it time and this will pass! You feel like you are failing., Please don't. How many calories a day are you logging ? If you could have compared yourself to me at the same stage, I was lucky to get in 300 a day. I was so ill. My body was hanging onto every calorie it could get hold of. People were racing ahead of me BUT, in the end it didn't matter, as I healed my weight dropped. I got to where I am now happy with myself. Listen to the nurse, give yourself 6 months to a year to do this. Its not magic. You have to put lots of effort in to get to the weight you desire. You may also be in a early version of the dreaded 3 week stall. Hang in there and keep away from the scales if you can. -
Liquid diet how to taking it seriously [emoji17]
Quetta89 posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My doctor said I was at the perfect weight for surgery so I didn't need to do a liquid diet. Now I spoke to my nutritionist, she said I have to be on a liquid diet since I gained 2 pounds. But I still wanna eat wat I want but in smaller portions. Is there any advice someone can give me so I can stick to this liquid diet for 2 weeks before my surgery 3/1. PLEASE HELP ME [emoji24][emoji24] Sent from my moto g power (2022) using BariatricPal mobile app -
BARELY any weight loss in first two weeks??
MaameWata posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hi all! I’m a new member of the group - I hope you’re all well! I had gastric sleeve surgery on 31st January 2023, after losing 13lbs on the pre-op diet. On the morning of my surgery, I weighed 281lbs. I lost no weight in the first week even though I was drinking my required water intake and having between 60-80g of protein a day. Today is two weeks post op. I’m officially allowed to move onto purées and so first thing this morning, I weighed myself and I’ve only lost 4lbs?? I try not to compare myself to others, but I’m so disheartened and even low key regret having the surgery now. I keep seeing people reporting a stone weight loss in a week, 12 lbs a week, 8 lbs the second week etc and so I assumed this would be the same for me. I’ve been very strict with my post op diet and making sure to get in at least 30 mins of movement a day. I’ve typically been consuming protein shakes, water, protein yogurt, tomato soups and the odd sugar-free/fat free children’s ice cream lolly. I feel like I’m doing something wrong, and feel like a bit of a failure. I feel like my body is actively working against me. I spoke to my bariatric nurse who just said ‘you’re still healing, give it time’, but I don’t know if it’s just an excuse. -
Hmm. Sounds like lots of us had significant weight regain or never met goal. I also found out that my severe GERD that started immediately after the sleeve surgery is due to a hiatal hernia (also not there pre surgery). My choices? A sleeve revision, bypass, or be content with where I am. I’d love to hear what choices you all are making. thank you 😊
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I’d also add that carrying your weight with your current co morbidities you have seriously compromised your health & longevity & it will only get worse. The surgery will help you lose the weight so you can live a longer, healthier life with her. Remind her you’ve dieted before & yet here you are. You need the extra help & opportunities surgery offers.
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I wasn’t given calories either just portion sizes. Started at 1/4 - 1/3 cup slowly increasing to about a cup by my goal at 6 months. I was a low calorie consumer so barely 900 at 6 months but that was me. I found, that as your dietician suggested I slowly increased as I was able to eat more & needed more. By the time I was stabilising (around 18months) I was following more accepted recommended portion sizes: 3-4oz protein, up to a cup vegetables & eating around 1300 calories (now about 14400) which is about appropriate for my age, height, weight & activity level. But that was me. Your needs likely will be different.
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Small, fine strainers (tea strainers are good) to ensure any soups you eat a completely free of lumpy or fibrous (herbs) bits. Zip lock bags for freezing single serve portions. (I even use them for soup. Measuring cups & spoons & scales with small weight increments. Baby spoon & fork or buffet spork small bowls & side plates if you don’t have any blender, stick blender, NutriBullet or similar. Have all your over the counter meds ready - non NSAID pain meds like tylenole, stool softener or similar, soluble fibre, electrolyte drinks, gas X, Imodium, recommended multivitamins, etc. The best shake question can be challenging as many find their taste buds change & the shake or flavour they enjoyed before surgery they can’t tolerate after. Have a couple of flavours & brands on hand. Have a range of soups (cream, consommés, bone broths) on have in case you really struggle with the shakes too. Don’t worry about buying clothes yet and even then buy very few. You may already have smaller sizes in your cupboards or you may drop so quickly it’s not worth the money - except if your pants/skirts/knickers are falling down 😁. All the best.
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Since everybody is different here are my stats. I am currently a little over 1.5 years after revision to rny (gerd reasons). I am 5'3, in my 60s, no formal exercising, currently averaging around 1500 cal total calories, and weigh 107.7 lbs. I stayed about 800 cal till I got to my first basic goal weight (140 lbs). Then I upped it a little each month till my weight loss slowly leveled off. I was (and still am) slowly losing weight as I grapple with finding my maintenance calorie level. I do look at my net calories for interest but I do not go by net calories since the calories burned calculations are notoriously wrong.
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February 2023 surgery dates!
Trishy replied to Erin18's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi. i am new here and I am having my Bypass on the 20th of February. Any surgery Buddy who wants to share notes on how they are managing the pre-op weight-loss? Sent from my 2201116SG using BariatricPal mobile app -
February 2023 surgery dates!
Trishy replied to Erin18's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi. i am new Here and I am having my Bypass in the 20th of February. Any surgery Buddy who wants to share noted on how they are managing the pre-op weight-loss? Sent from my 2201116SG using BariatricPal mobile app -
Hello. I am new here. I'm already finding this forum very informative. I have my first initial consult with the bariatric surgeon next week. I know I have to tell my wife and frankly I do not know how she will react. Knowing her she will say I don't need surgery, I just need to stop snacking particularly at night. I really want her support if I decide to have WLS, probably the original gastric bypass. I have struggled with my weight since I was a teenager. I am now 67. I was on the original Atkins in 1971. I have yo-yo dieted many times. I don't think I am morbidly obese and I hide my weight well but my BMI is 37%. I have enjoyed bicycling and at one point about 20 years ago I was riding a lot 2-3 hour 4-5 times a week. Even then I was not able to lose much and always struggled up every hill. I take medication for high blood pressure, cholesterol, GERD and type II diabetes. My other main motivation is to get off my medications. I understand this will be a transformative procedure if I choose to have it and will radically need to alter the way I eat. I think I am prepared for that. Any suggestions on "selling" the idea to my wife would be appreciated. I know I would enjoy bicycling much more and probably ride more. I do still work some, about 20 hours a week. I work at home. Thank you.
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I've been in therapy for a few months because my body image is really out of whack. While I don't think I am the same size I once was, my concept of what I look like is about 50 pounds behind, and to this day I still pick up clothing thinking there is no way it is ever going to fit only to find out it's too big (even clothes I already own!). I was carrying the majority of my weight in my trunk, so almost all my excess skin is on my neck and stomach. The neck is snapping back slowly, but my stomach would probably need surgery before I would feel comfortable wearing a bikini in public. (I read somewhere that if a part of your body had stretch marks on it, it's less likely to bounce back entirely due to the scar tissue, and that lines up with my experience, I only had stretch marks on my belly and bustline and those are the two most stubbornly saggy areas.)
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I am 1 month post-op today and I’m down about 18 lbs. I healed quickly, I’ve been back on the treadmill since week 2 and am walking 2+ miles a day. I had very little pain post surgery and I have had NO problems with any foods. To the point where I feel like I SHOULD be having more difficulty. I have lost little if any weight since January 25th. A girlfriend thinks I’m consuming too many calories. I am eating between 800-1000 calories a day, but burning between 400-500 on the treadmill daily. I’m tall. 5’8” and my SW was 290. CW is 272. I started the pre-op diet at 303.2. Am I eating too many calories? Should I feel ok that my NET calories daily are closer to 500-600 calories a day? I feel like my mind is slipping into that dark space where I feel like this surgery is gonna be a failure. Like…. The weight just isn’t going to come off. I know this “stall” was to be expected…. But I would feel better with more directions aside from meet your protein and fluids (which I’m doing). Would love to hear your thoughts.
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Keep doing what you are doing. It's not uncommon to have frequently plateaus and then drop 5-10 pounds. also if you are lifting weights you will gain muscle mass as well and may not show a loss but that is fine. I had my surgery Nov 2021 and I am still losing and go up and down 3-5 lbs depending on the month. :) I have surpassed my goal weight and don't focus so much on the scale. I may weigh once a month if that. Just be mindful of your water and protein and the rest will follow.
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I think I was pretty much exactly where you are at 3 months post op! My team went one step further and didn't give me ANY goals at all. Just food consistency phases. I learned how to eat and what to eat mainly by reading this forum. I think I still had to push myself to reach 800 calories a day - I remember at that stage often having to take a few spoons of nut butter or some cheese at bedtime just to hit the 800 some nights but I never wanted to eat any less than that. I was drinking alcohol at weekends by then too so my intake was well over 1000 on two days a week - that was by choice though. It may have slowed my weight loss a little but luckily it didn't stop me reaching goal. I mainly walked, but I walked *very* fast and did (still do) it several days a week. I have never adjusted my intake to make allowances for that - never felt the need. I was very conscious of squeezing every pound of loss that I could over the 'honeymoon period' when I wasn't hungry - with my own personal concession being a couple of glasses of wine on Fri and Sat night. Over the months my calories have kind of drifted upwards really - never planned. I can just eat a bit more before I get full, and I get properly hungry now which forces me to eat again at the most 3 hours later - at 3 months out I was pretty much eating by the clock to get 100 or so calories in every 2-3 hours. You had your surgery almost exactly a year after me and you started 4lbs heavier. I've just looked at my diary and this time last year I was...218lb exactly, same as you today. What are the chances? You are doing brilliantly. 😍
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I was eating around 800 for most of that first year. I went over 1000 at around the year mark. Your weight loss WILL slow down and do some yo-yoing the further out you go, so that's not abnormal. As long as your overall trend is down, you're still good.
