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Revision surgery: Why will this time be different?
vanmini replied to KSW22's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
KSW22 I am sorry to hear you can not do your revision surgery and am wondering if you have ever looked into keto/low carb? I had the roux en y in dec 2004 and lost 100 lbs, but than got almost back up to my original weight. Two years ago i found keto and Dr. Ken Berry (u tube him). I had success with losing about 70 lbs, but last year when covid hit I got off track and am now getting ready to start over. It is the closest thing to what i should have done after my 1st surgery, if I had only known than what I know now. look into it and if you have questions feel free to ask. -
July 2021 Surgery People!
SallyAJones replied to Sammys_VSG_Evolution's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hi everyone! I'm now almost eight weeks post op (5 July) and I've lost 15kg. I still find liquid and soft food easier to digest and find foods too rich... basically my body regects food quickly. I haven't come up with a good weight loss story yet, keto seems believable... Anyway nice to have a community xx -
Struggling with 2 week milk plan
Vicks1990 replied to Vicks1990's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Thank you so much for your reply. From looking through my paperwork it seems the milk plan is just my consultants preferred diet of choice before surgery and there are other low carb low fat no sugar diets people follow to achieve the ketosis. i did look up the best keto friendly foods and prawns was one of the top suggestions since its considered to be 'clean' I didnt realise just how awful id feel doing this right at the beginning and now i feel worried about eating them lol! Back on the 100 percent milk track tomorrow for me 💪🏻💪🏻 Ive got this xx -
Unexplained Weight gain post revision
starladustangel replied to starladustangel's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Some of the Facebook groups are odd The strangest response I got was someone questioning why my surgeon would do a revision for GERD when I didn't need to lose more weight. And someone else questioning my dietitian for not having me on moderate carbs instead of keto. She's been my dietitian for 2.5 years since I was pre op VSG. Thank you -
5 Year Bariatric Failure - Please educate me on the basics
Arabesque replied to AmiLou's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
That’s the thing isn’t it. Our cravings, habits or emotional drives to eat are always with us. They don’t disappear as we lost our weight - unfortunately. It’s a constant battle to manage them & reduce their power over us. Portion size & calories. I’m only 2 years out but that’s the key for me. And nutritionally dense food of course. As you know if you eat more calories than your body needs to function you’ll put on weight. If you eat less than your body needs you’ll lose. Sure you could go back to protein shakes temporarily as a kick start to reduce your calories & start to break your cravings. Or you could follow keto or other diet for a couple of weeks too. But it really comes down to reducing those calories & portion sizes & making nutritionally sound food choices that will be sustainable in your lifestyle. Can you go back to your dietician/nutritionalist for some hints & tips to refocus you? Have a look at some of Dr Matthew Weiner’s you tube videos about metabolic reset diets & his Pound of Cure book. https://m.youtube.com/user/DrMatthewWeiner Good luck. -
Thank you for your reply! Yes, since weight has been a focal point in my life, I’ve been weighing myself daily on every single plan I’ve ever done, from HCG, to Keto etc. I started my current journey many months ago when I was going through the 6 month approval process. I weigh myself each morning, naked…after using the bathroom and before consuming anything to eat or drink. I was completely baffled when it said 226.6 this morning when the last two days it has said a solid 225. Im going to have faith this is just for today lol! The only thing I changed is I added some more calories thinking that would help break the 225 stall. The only other thing that has changed is that for the last few days, I’ve went for 20-30 min walks.
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I am about 5 years post-op and definitely regret it as well for mostly the same reasons as SleevedK above. Yes, I lost quite easily at first but that only lasted the first year. After that I could not lose anymore no matter what I tried. The worst thing? I am ALWAYS hungry. Before I had VSG, I had done low carb/keto for quite awhile and lost well and had a lot of energy. Part of that is eating plenty of fat which keeps you full. Unfortunately, after VSG I could not eat much fat. Protein first of course, but if I had too much fat I'd get sick. I also LOVE vegetables and can no longer eat much of them. I fill up quickly at a meal but am starving an hour later. I was told that at least in the first 6 months or so, hunger would never be a problem b/c the part of your stomach they remove is where the hunger hormones are secreted and that eventually that would come back. I was hungry from day one and it never changed. The biggest disappointment to me was that I did want the bypass. I went in for surgery and woke up to find I had nothing done. Doctor tried but could not pull my intestine far enough forward to attach it without stressing the incision. I went on a liquid diet for a month and lost 22 more lbs, tried again with the agreement that if it still wouldn't fit, he could go ahead and do VSG and that's what I woke up with. My surgeon has a very good reputation and I trust him. My body has always done weird things. Not sure if it's just all the fat in the omentum around the intestines that was the cause or adhesions from my previous gallbladder surgery, although he did say he broke down some of those. By 3 yrs post-op I'd not only not lost anymore but started regaining. The regain is totally MY fault, not the surgery, but I was so tired of fighting to lose with no results that I began eating junk food again and it crept up. All told, I lost 85 lbs and regained 28, and have been sort of stuck there. I'm now revisiting trying to do low carb since it works for me once I get past the initial cravings, etc. I had some GERD prior to surgery but it went away with the weight loss, only to return with a vengeance after i began to regain. It is MUCH worse than it ever was prior to surgery. I have not had an endoscopy to see if there is a hiatal hernia or anything yet; it's on my list to get checked out soon.
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VET Looking for Buddies and Pen Pals!
mi75 replied to Ashleyin_Onederland's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
I'm happy to join in too. I'm 7 yrs post op. Had some regain at 18 months post op. Went Keto and lost regain plus some, but have fizzled out and STILL have 25 lbs to go until ultimate goal as current BMI is around 30 (need to change my profile info still). I remain on a tight diet and am essentially still keto, but I'm considering putting Keto to the back burner and focusing more on high protein-low carb-lower fat which is more of a 'bariatric' type diet long term. I am desperate to make the scale move in the next 3-4 weeks and see some good losses. I will ALWAYS identify as a bariatric patient and sadly this will be a lifelong battle for me. But I have all the tools I need. I actually just spoke to a NP today from my clinic to suggested I start FIERCE tracking which I haven't done in about 6 years. -
February 2019 weight loss buds
TheMarine79 replied to TheMarine79's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Life is going well. I never thought I would be able to maintain as well as I have. Even to be running 5+ 3 times a week. I do Keto -
Yep, could be keto flu. Google it & see if it’s what you’re experiencing. Plus you’re likely experiencing withdrawals from caffeine, sugar, etc. It does get better. Good luck with your surgery.
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Looking for some Encouragement after Sleeve Surgery
Butterflyeffect replied to mgigi's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
The good news is that it gets better as you’re able to introduce more foods back into your diet. I have always enjoyed cooking and now I just try to find creative ways to recreate healthier versions of my favorite recipes, like a keto Pad Thai, and I use a lot of herb and flavors so that what I’m eating is full of flavor. It’s going to take time for your mind and body to adjust. At three weeks out your body is still healing and may feel a bit all over the place for a while. I couldn’t reach my protein or water goals until a couple of months out so don’t be too hard on yourself, it will come. Even at 5 months out I still miss my water goals sometimes, in fact today is one of those times!! Losing 42lbs is a huge achievement and you should be really proud of your self. Hang in there -
Headaches... ugh
lizonaplane replied to Queen LaShay's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yes, it's very common. It could be "keto flu" as you stop carbs. It should stop soon, as long as you don't "cheat". Feel better soon! -
Does no one eat a cookie now and then??
GreenTealael replied to Tamara_V's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
The first year I didn’t eat desserts often because my palate changed and every flavor was intensified but I totally understand wanting it. I tried to make smart substitutions like low sugar or sugar free items. Mostly Keto, protein or diabetic brands. As everyone says that first year is pretty critical because it’s the absolute fastest you’ll lose the weight and there’s a good chance you’ll overshoot your goal with can help as a buffer zone against possible regain (losing after regain later is possible but a lot harder). -
Broke through a months long stall. What worked and why.
dal101 replied to perfektlynrml's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Thank you for the detailed reply! I use to do lazy keto, where I would replace carbs with meat, but the meat was processed. I would one day like to try bulletproof coffee, it seems so delicious.... Do you count macros and calories ? I have PCOS too, my blood sugar is all over the place sometimes and causes cravings. -
Broke through a months long stall. What worked and why.
perfektlynrml replied to perfektlynrml's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
A typical day begins with coffee, 1 tsp of extra virgin coconut oil, 2 equal blended. I use the Premier Protein shakes because they are keto friendly. I have nuts on hand, Macadamia, Brazil and pecans as a snack food. 4 oz of hard cheese are allowed each day. I use regular butter or vegan butter to make an egg or two, you are allowed bacon but I tend to break out from that type of fatty meat. You could dice ham into your eggs and green veggies. Peppers are also allowed. I use 1 oz of cheese in my eggs if I want. For lunch I make tuna, salmon or egg salad and eat it from the dish. I also eat salads with viangrette. I’ve had Cobb salad, spinach salad and portobello salads. I add extra hard boiled egg for more protein and I enjoy the taste. I’ve eaten fish at dinner with green veggies. My favorite is Brussels sprouts and butter. You can use Quest bars or cookies as a safe snack but try to limit them. I often have a second cup of coffee as made at breakfast for the mid afternoon. So far my blood work came back immaculate. I like this plan because it helps me with my hyperinsulinema from my PCOS. I don’t spend the day constantly looking for sugar. If I do fall off, I start again at the next meal. It takes me four mealtimes to get the cravings out of my system again. If you have any questions. I can get you more information. -
Broke through a months long stall. What worked and why.
dal101 replied to perfektlynrml's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
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Broke through a months long stall. What worked and why.
perfektlynrml posted a topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Hello. It’s been a while since I posted here but I have been busy figuring out how to get past a months long stall and some sugar addiction. First, I found out that I have lipedema which is a connective tissue disorder. It’s an abnormal collection of fat that is no longer in it’s original spongy condition. It is literally scar tissue and adhesions under the skin that do not let go of fat easily. I have huge amounts of it on the lower body and some on my arms. The change that worked for me was specific exercises using a vibration plate on the fat deposits and other mechanisms that can be found on the internet. Second, I ended up switching to healthy keto and that made a great difference in the movement of the scale. I’m down a few pounds now and I no longer have the sugar cravings. I also have gotten better about setting limits on other people monopolizing my time. I’m prioritizing myself and it is really starting to show. I’d be happy to share more if anyone is interested in the connection between stalled weight loss after Bariatric surgery and the condition known as lipedema. It’s not a broadly known condition but it is starting to get attention. I can share some of the resources that I have used in the past few months. To learn more, start here: https://lipedemaproject.org -
Thank you for letting me know… did your nutrition tell you to be on a keto diet for a year after surgery. I just made up my own food selection. I better look at the paperwork… I don’t want to gain anything back.
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Keto is ok to give you a kickstart but there’s information coming out that it’s not a long term option. Go back to what you were eating up to when you reached your goal. Or you can slowly reduce your portion size & therefore your caloric intake until you start losing again. The caloric point at which you lose could be lower or higher than others depending upon your metabolic rate, activity level, height., age. As I said above I maintain on 1200 - I’m not tall like you, have a smallish frame, am in my mid 50s & not very active. If I eat as much as some others do in maintenance, I’d gain. I can lose if I drop to about 900 - 1000 calories. Did you have a good relationship with your nutritionalist/dietician? You could always go back to them for some guidance.
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Im trying to find an a typical daily calorie limit for a Woman, 4 years out Gastric Bypass. Lost 150 lbs, maintained, then covid and gained 30lbs back. Now I need advice on how many calories I should eat to return to weightloss, and then for long term maintenance, being im so far out and was eating anything, and too much, and not having a problem till recent. Start: 276Lbs., Lowest: 117, maintained 125lbs, Currently 140 lbs. Goal back between 117-125 Lbs. Im also trying Keto, any advice for me is appreciated, Thanks!!!
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UPDATE:
I was down to lowest weight of 117, kept around 123 for couple years, but recently due to covid gained back. got back up to 146, been trying to bounce back some and right now am at 140. Goal 117-120 ish.
Experimenting with Macros:
Keto- 900 calories
Fat 75%, Net carbs 5%, Protein 20%.
7/17/21: Day one: lightheaded, tired, randown, headache, not really that hungery, but thinking of food consistently, also but out alcohol and sugar, blah.
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Had sleeve on May 20th don't feel difference
Princesa78 replied to Princesa78's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
The food, the intake, at times I do not want to get out of bed. I feel more swollen and bigger in certain areas. The most difficult thing is what to eat and not since everything is more keto. Vsg food is very different and again im in 3.0oz i dont count calories in which I should. My surgeons nutritionist told me.3 ounces. I do crave hot dog for some reason lol Sent from my SM-J737T1 using BariatricPal mobile app -
But what about the sound nutrition advice given via lifestyle bloggers on YouTube who have this amazing cleanse to sell you?? Or a raw vegan paleo high protein keto diet consisting entirely of lemon water? It sounds so legit. 😬 All kidding aside, great advice. And I think it also bears to mention that although you should follow the advice given by a credentialed professional, there are bad and good doctors out there and the same follows for dietitians as well. If you feel strongly that you’re getting bad advice, you might want to seek out another opinion.
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There’s lots of different pre surgical plans. I had about 2.5 weeks keto. My friend had four weeks of two shakes & one small protein & vegetable meal per day. Another friend had two weeks shakes only. The first week is always the hardest - my surgeon called it hell week. I’m secretly pleased I had keto but I’ve done those shake diets several times in the past for a couple of months each time. Once past that first week of cravings, headaches, etc. you’ll be ok.
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Was gonna say much that was mentioned above, skewers with various meats and veggies, (sugar free) BBQ chicken, Italian Sausages & Peppers, Kielbasa, burgers and hot dogs should be fine too. Aldi has some great Keto bun options if you want to have buns for others and yourself. There is pasta made of lentils, chickpeas etc. that you could use to make a macaroni salad. Fruit tray. Veggie tray. Lots of options.