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2 weeks until revision, and not feeling it....
ren0318 posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I'm scheduled for Sleeve to Bypass revision in two weeks due to GERD, and I don't feel peace about the surgery, nor I'm I feeling gung-ho about starting the liver shrink on Thursday, or going through all the post-op food steps and watching every single thing I put in my mouth.....I'm 5 years post Sleeve and I'm at goal weight. I just don't think I want this surgery. With my sleeve I don't have to take a steady stream of vitamins nor do I have to think of maybe never eating Ice cream again due to dumping... I also don't want the big bill from my medical deductible that the surgery will leave me paying.....I probably sound like a big baby....Sigh....the thought of surgery again is just not appealing to me right now....but Dr. says I can't keep taking the GERD meds, as they can cause harm to my kidneys....What's a girl to do? I guess I'm just venting.... -
I am April 4th. Sleeve to MGB revision. BariatricPalMX with Dr. Illan. Can’t say I am nervous. More anxious about leaving my one year old twins for a few days. I’ve never been away over night so it’s going to be hard on me as a mom. Needs to be done though.
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Gastric sleeve to gastric bypass
Wanderlustingmama replied to robynsch's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I’m also having a revision from sleeve to bypass at the end of May. I originally got a referral to my surgeon because of reflux (I’ve been on a ppi since the day of surgery... 7 years ago!) but as he works with a bariatric clinic he insisted I go through the clinic’s program even though he has warned me numerous times that I won’t lose much weight (ouch!) I haven’t found a whole lot online about weight loss success after revision especially from people that had some regain after their sleeve. Im motivated to get off the meds but knowing that it would help me with this regain would be extra motivating! -
Conversion from lapband to sleeve - lower BMI
Nanajoy replied to Stella84's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I have very similar stats to yours. Started at 232. Had lap band 7 years ago. Got down to 142 and now struggling with regain. I have had pain and nausea that I never used to have and also am considering sleeve suggested by my Bariatric group. Unfortunately bc my BMI is 27 insurance won’t pay for sleeve. Dr will do revision at no charge but will have to pay for hospital fees which no one can give me an answer to cost. I too never considered having what I considered a drastic surgery like the sleeve but yo continue gaining would be devastating for me. My health has been so much better since the band I don’t know what to do. I have an appt to discuss my options and also have a swallow X-ray done. Good luck to you. Hope we can figure this out! -
Dr. Ariel Ortiz and The Obesity Control Center
MoreThanJustaPrettyFace replied to HoopDawg77's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was banded by Dr. Ortiz in 2012 and just got a revision (no problems, just not enough aftercare support in the states for the Mexican bandsters) to the sleeve on Thursday (March 7). I’m still sitting in the hotel recovering now and won’t be flying home until Monday night. If there’s anything in particular I can help with, please let me know. -
Just to play devils advocate. My Dr wanted me to do the duodenal switch, but I was adamant I wanted the sleeve. If down the road I decide I'm gaining weight and want to I can do a revision to RNY. I like the fact there is no dumping and no malabsorption. I don't know the statistics on weight gain, but I worked with a girl who had the Rny and she previously weighed 600 lbs, I saw pictures. When I started working with her she weighed 220. By the end of one 1 year she had gained back to 400 lbs. Not sure how this is even possible? So I'm not sure if you can gain with either one? Personally, I don't ever want to he super thin. So, it might be something to think about. If you want to be thin, I think rny offers a better, longer weight loss future. Best wishes. You will do great!
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Hi Annie, I haven't had my surgery yet, and like ZGal said, I also dont have a long term success to share. At my first appointment with the surgeon I was sure that I wanted the sleeve, but the more research I did, I came to the conclusion that the best for me is the RNY and I already told my surgeon's office of the change. There's an old saying that say the best consumer is an educated consumer. I think the waiting period no matter how long it may seem at times give us the opportunity to research and to figure out what the best option is. I don't think dumping syndrome will be an issue for me as I have already stopped eating or drinking any sugary food for more than a month now. You should ask your surgeon the percentage of his patients who gain the weight back from the sleeve or RNY, and percentage of revision from sleeve to RNY he does. Wishing you the best. ZGal gives an update on how you are doing. I would like to know and wishing you much success.
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Do not do! Waste of money opt for something different. U will be back for a revision like me if you do.
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May 13th here. I’m having a LapBand to VSG revision at BariatricPal MX.
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Do all sleeves or baraitric surgeries need revisions?
KCgirl061 replied to Healthy_life2's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
It's always good to look at medical sites and studies. A common opinion I see "a huge percentage of VGS patients get GERD and need to revise to bypass anyway!" That does happen, but according to medical studies, the numbers aren't as high as people's perceptions. -
Do all sleeves or baraitric surgeries need revisions?
KCgirl061 replied to Healthy_life2's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
No. According to the American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery, revisions made up 14% of the total number of bariatric surgeries in 2017. You have to figure that yes, some of them were revisions from sleeve to bypass, but its much more likely that a majority of those were revisions of lapbands to either sleeve or bypass since band failure is the issue we see more often. In 2011 bands made up 35% of weight loss surgeries so theres a lot out there probably getting revised. If you are curious here is the website: https://asmbs.org/resources/estimate-of-bariatric-surgery-numbers -
I am also surprised you were able to find a surgeon who will place one without strongly arguing against it. My surgeon only revises from lapband to other surgeries.
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My thoughts are that if you have a lapband now you will almost certainly be looking at having some kind of revision within the next 10 years. They were thought to be safe because they were marketed as being reversible but in reality although they can be removed they also cause a lot of internal damage. Some people are successful, some aren't , some are initially but then band stops working and no amount of fills will change it. Your eating with a band also becomes very disordered. Most people struggle to eat one bite of healthy solid proteins such as steak, chops,chicken - often that 1 bite will get stuck and cause hours of intense pain. The same does not happen with unhealthy foods though - chocolate,cheese,cookies, cake go down with the greatest of ease. I had my band removed 7 weeks ago due to various issues and I revised to an RNY. At the moment the RNY is like heaven in comparison. I can eat small quantities of healthy food and be satisfied. Steak and chops have never tasted so good. Whatever you decide to do good luck but if I was in your shoes I would be postponing and doing some more research.
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It seems to be not recommended. The surgeon I went to no longer places them as stated above. We do have people here that have had no issues and you can look in the surgery specific boards, but there are tons of posts about people that had to revise due to complications. Of course, you can have complications from any surgery. So is this cold feet or do you need to postpone and do some research before you decide to have this surgery Saturday? Good luck!
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Do all sleeves or baraitric surgeries need revisions?
MarinaGirl replied to Healthy_life2's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
For many people, a restrictive-only bariatric surgery, which the VSG is, is not enough to achieve optimal health outcomes. Basically, the sleeve is just a diet with a smaller stomach. Therefore, bariatric surgeries that are also malabsorptive, such as RNY, MGB, or DS, typically offer better weight loss results and resolution of diabetes. Another risk with VSG is worsening of or development of GERD, which is one of the main reasons for revision from VSG to RNY. So if a pre-op has pre-existing GERD/reflux, then they should get a gastric bypass as their original bariatric surgery. -
Revisions can happen with any type of surgery for many reasons. Many of us with the sleeve have lost the weight and kept it off with no revision. I'm almost five years out I maintain in the 130's. Understand not many vets stay. Life becomes normal they maintain their weight and have no need for this site. You will meet mostly new people and people that gain. What I wish people knew before choosing the sleeve: If you have issues keeping on a diet plan and changing behaviors, I would look into another type of surgery Sleeves usually can tolerate sugar no dumping syndrome because our intestines are not rerouted. If sugar is an weakness you may want to go for MGB When you get to maintaining phase don’t think the work is over. Not everyone will gain. But if you don’t monitor your weight and diet it can turn into a 20, 60 100 pound gain. This is what I see repeatedly with sleeve patient on this site: Frustrates me that they are not told this pre surgery. Sleeve restriction becomes less as you progress out from surgery (your stomach is not back to full size) Our pouches are banana shape the other surgeries are egg shape. Just because you can consume more food does not mean you need to over eat. You can fill the space without going over your calories and macros Many confuse less restriction with stretching (stretching is rare, have a surgeon diagnose it) Many eat around their surgery (you can eat around/graze any type of surgery ) Grazing is eating many smaller meals, healthy and unhealthy that total over your calories and macros. It’s the sensation of no restriction. It’s as if you never had surgery. You will gain weight. Bariatric surgery is not the easy way out. Its far more than restriction. Its work.
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Yes, the said MGB abut im not sure if it’s too invasive and I don’t want to have another wls for revision.
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Weight Gain After Sleeve (Seeking Advice Not Judgment)
Healthy_life2 replied to GetBack_095's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Sorry to the original poster I'm off topic. Fluff , You know I love you. your edit sounds less aggressive😉 The last thing the OP was asking for or needs is judgment. They already know their reasons for the weight gain. No need for anyone to restate what they should have been doing, where they went wrong and beat them down further. The depression, shame and guilt from a gain is enough. I agree, Therapy and talking with their surgeon about options including revision is a great place to start. Lifelong change means they can get the help and move forward. In a perfect world all of us would stay on track. We will continue to see people with weight gain. I want them to feel supported and see them take this on and get the help they need. -
Weight Gain After Sleeve (Seeking Advice Not Judgment)
FluffyChix replied to GetBack_095's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
IDK. I think you are a fairly unique lady and VET. Maybe in the top 1-3% of people/"types". You DID learn your lessons while losing. You DID incorporate your doc/RD instructions and adapted them to work for you long term. And when you experience regain for any reason, you've set a protocol that is inspiring and amazing to watch. And it gives me hope for my future--that I'm not doomed to regain it all without being able to maintain. Because you quickly and efficiently go back to your roots and get rid of the regain. I feel like the OP has not done the work. Or maybe the surgery was the wrong surgery for him/her? We are all so unique, one solution won't fit all. They claim the reason for the regain and for not getting lower to their goal was based on undisciplined behavior. But if you lack discipline before, what will change this time? How will you magically change for good? Any of us can do things for short periods of time. But being "habilitated" sometimes, even more than being "RE-habilitated" is important. Not all of us can do that on our own. Not everyone learns things the first time. Maybe some of us DO need the surgeon revision or the RD new plan/accountability that meetings provide? Maybe we DO need bariatric therapy to discover what is driving us to self-harming behaviors? It usually isn't the short game that's the problem for any of us...it's playing for the long game. It is about changing lifelong behaviors for long term success. And that's a TALL order for most of us (the other 97%). Dunno...just spit balling here. -
Do all sleeves or baraitric surgeries need revisions?
nenes78 replied to Healthy_life2's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
In my support group we have a few members with both sleeve and bypass that are 5 years out plus. A particular member with a sleeve is 8 years out and has had no revision. He says he lost almost 150 pounds with the sleeve. and regained 30 pounds at one point but currently maintains at 15 from his lowest loss. He is an older gentleman and does say that age plays a factor as well as he noticed its tougher to loose weight now than a few years back. He also let us know when the weight puts back on is when he does not track his intake. When a newbie to the group asks if they will ever eat normal again he always tells them " Whats normal? Before surgery I would order a large pizza and eat it all in a sitting. Now I order a medium pizza, have a slice maybe two and save the rest for another meal. The before is not normal, the way I eat a slice now is." -
Do all sleeves or baraitric surgeries need revisions?
Healthy_life2 posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Do all sleeves or bariatric surgeries need revisions? I’m seeing posts that some people think the sleeve stops working and will need a revision at some point. Where are people getting this information? Yes, some people may need surgery revision. It can happen with any type of surgery. This site is filled with new people and people that have gained weight. People that are maintaining have no need for support here. I’m wondering if this is the reason people think surgeries will “need revisions” That we are all doomed to regain. Understand some may need a revision for various reason: examples: (I’m sure there are more reasons than what I have listed) Complications procedure not done correctly it was the wrong type of surgery for an individual. Many reasons why people gain weight. (Most People can control gains on their own, If the contiune to gain, they can consult their surgeon on options) Examples: Hormones medical conditions medications pregnancy/ menopause eating disorders stress Grazing – Eating a combination of heathy and unhealthy food over their calories and macros. The sensation is no restriction. Its as if you never had surgery and you will gain weight. Mistaking stretching as your restriction becomes less as you progress out from surgery (Your stomach is not back to full size) You still can fill it with food within your calories and macro’s Not knowing how many calories they are eating daily Will all surgeries stop working. NO. Will everyone gain weight - no. If you gain you can work it back down. Weigh yourself before a 20 pound gain continues on to a 40, 80, or 100+ weight gain.- 12 replies
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7 month PO going on 2 months stalled
Healthy_life2 replied to T's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
50 pound weight loss is " NOT A FALIURE!" Its fantastic. Don't compare your weight loss to others. Some of us lose slow and its perfectly fine. You are losing weight and that’s all that matters. Revision of the sleeve. Let your team diagnose if the procedure was done correctly or if your surgery was stretched by over consumption of food. What many people with the sleeve experience is "grazing ". Eating healthy and unhealthy food over their calories and macros - It is the same as never having surgery. You will gain weight. Weighing on a food scale and logging my food has been the best tool. It’s the only way I know my calories and if I am hitting 60 to 100 gram protein goal. Many free apps out there - I use myfitnesspal others use baritastic. -
Please help my surgery is Monday and I am still unsure which procedure is better for me. I have a failed lapband, BMI of 33.2, CW 189. I read the forums how sleeve patients usually regain after years and go back for revision. However is MGB to invasive for my weight loss. I don’t want to lose to much. Please help me decide. More heads and opinions are better than one :)
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Help me Friends! Sleeve vs MGB! How did you decide?!
CR0610 posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Please help my surgery is Monday and I am still unsure which procedure is better for me. I have a failed lapband, BMI of 33.2, CW 189. I read the forums how sleeve patients usually regain after years and go back for revision. However is MGB to invasive for my weight loss. I don’t want to lose to much. Please help me decide. More heads and opinions are better than one :) -
Yes! I have lost approx. 45lbs. but I have been at a plateau since december. i will be having a follow up with the surgeon for checkup and will ask him what is going on but I have a feeling i'm not getting in enough protein and haven't been nearly as active as i should be! Are you considering a revision?
