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Hey, if you can handle it power to you! There is nothing wrong with having fun. I really enjoy drinking wine and champagne and I admit I love a good party! Everyone is different in this regard as to how they handle alcohol. My point was just that at first I didn't notice a difference in how alcohol affected me. It took awhile and suddenly my body just can't handle it any more. I think being aware of the possibility of cross addictions is really wise. Most of us over ate as a coping mechanism and when that is taken away something wants to fill that void. I'm super aware that this is a possibility for me having a pretty bad eating disorder and my history of coping with self destructive behaviors. That's why I'm shutting down drinking right away rather than playing with fire. My body obviously can't handle it. It's enough already that I'm fighting to maintain my weight.

Just be aware, as it has been mentioned several times, due to the decrease in area of the stomach the absorption rates in the gut from alcohol are about 7 times faster for sleevers. as such alcohol hits you about 7 times harder. No disrespect to the gentleman above, but i find it hard to beleive, since 8 to 10 drinks would make an absolute lush, drunk. And id have to say why on earth would you have 8 to 10 drinks? are you trying to fail? that's like 5 thousand calories and all from sugars, give yourself a chance. Your not even at goal. why would you do that? To give some perspective one of my best friends is a bartender and as such, he has repeatedly told me about customers that have ben brought to his attention to not serve a lot to, and to serve very slowly to as they are sleeves and the establishments management makes sure those patrons don't have problems, since they once had a sleeve drink 3 shots in like 15 minutes and had to be taken to the ER. So please be very careful.

I was told 3 months. I think around 3.5 months I had like 2 sips of wine. I went to a Christmas party and I had a drink that I took 2 sips of and just carried around all night. I gave up alcohol long before surgery, and it just doesn't interest me. I will fake it though in social settings. I also really don't like the warm feeling of alcohol in my stomach, as soon as I take a sip my stomach is on simmer, no thanks.

The surgery definitely changes the way we're affected by alcohol. I am a total light-weight now. I get buzzed VERY quickly on very little alcohol, but then I sober up super fast too. It's weird for sure. Luckily I don't drink much. Just VERY rarely at social events, so I just make sure to go super easy on the alcohol now. There was one night in my 20's when I managed to do 28 shots in one night! Now if I did two shots, I'd probably be passed out or throwing up...

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4 weeks? That seems pretty early! I wasn't even on solid foods at 4 weeks. Not sure I would have wanted to challenge my healing stomach with something as harsh as alcohol that early out. Some surgeons and nutritionists recommend no alcohol ever. I have seen that before. I think it has less to do with any real medical concern associated with WLS and more to do with the fact that many people who have WLS have addictive personalities. It is not uncommon for people who give up food addiction to then replace that with another addiction, such as alcoholism. So I think some surgeons and nutritionists really push the "no drinking" think to try to prevent their patients from becoming alcoholics. Plus there is the general rule that we aren't supposed to drink our calories. But clearly that can be accommodated by making smart food choices the vast majority of the time and only drinking occasionally.

My doctor asked for my word to never drink alcohol, smoke, or drink carbonated drinks. He said he prided himself on a very high long term success rate, and those issues caused him issues in the past. Therefore, I should not drink, smoke, or have cokes ANYMORE. I still cuss a little.

How long did everyone wait before drinking alcohol?

Yes, I weigh every day and do have mini stalls (4 days at exactly the same weight to the tenth of a pound). No, I can't eat Ho Ho's and lose weight. Over the holidays, I ate Christmas Cookies on 4 different days and instantly gained 3 pounds. It came off a few days after I went back to my program, but I'm sure I would have stalled if I kept it up. I have also studied all the posts of people who failed and gained weight down the road. I found no one who claimed it was caused by having a few glasses of wine a week. I even started a thread that was "hot" for a while specifically asking this question and not one single poster reported gaining back weight due to a few low-sugar alcohol drinks a week (some had problems with margaritas, daiquiris, beer, etc, but they were also eating junk food). Virtually everyone who had failed cited Ho Ho's! Well, not exactly, rather sugar. Regular soft drinks is #1, sweets in general #2, simple carbs #3, and junk food #4 (which I assume means burgers, fries, and milkshakes). I am not cocky, I am a scientist. It took me 50 years to put on 75 pounds and 80% of those 50 years I was on one diet or another. I have no doubt that I will fail if I just eat "normally". I also have no use for second hand tales from others who eat perfectly, don't drink alcohol themselves and feel they know it all (kinda feels like the "Church Lady" from SNL). I have read all the major wls books and most all the posts on this forum and others. I know all the "official rules" and I also know that there is much disagreement among experts throughout the process in terms of food, alcohol, and coffee. I also know that it varies based on your surgery. That's why I ask for real world experiences. I love this forum for the first hand accounts of what worked or didn't work FOR YOU! This thread is about a question for people who drink alcohol. If you don't drink, good for you, but please don't bother jumping in. Thanks

I love going on cruises...I love everything about cruising, and if you are like me...you probably know that the food is one of the best parts of cruising. Well, we have a cruise coming up in a few months, and I am extremely tormented about it! I know I will need to face lots of food at some point in my life, but I also know I'll need some serious strategies to be able to resist some of my favorite deserts for example. By then I will be over half way towards my goal, but not there yet. and I am wondering how I will coup with 7 days on the high seas with all that yummy goodness. A part of me things, no problem, I can do this, while another part is wondering, is this not like an alcoholic leaving mid AA program to go to an All You Can drink Winery? So my question is...are there any cruise lovers out there that have sailed since being sleeved, and if you have any advise for how to coup with the temptation. I would sure appreciate it if you shared your experience.

@@Cape Crooner hey bud when i read you first sentence - i thought to myself, cool you are tracking, eating ,drinking (water LOL) protein - exercising you are doing great many people don't weigh everyday (I do) if you don't weigh weigh during the week, you don't know if you have stalled (an OFFICIAL stall refers to not loosing weight for at least three weeks) NOT if you haven't lost in 3 days or so LOL after NOT weighing yourself all week you step on the scale it might show a weight loss it's time to show that loss! happened to coincide with after you had drank a "little" alcohol personally i don't think the loss had anything to do with a few drinks as far as burning 3,000 calories a day for fear of death (or worse!!) i wouldn't touch that statement with a 10 ft pole LOL truth is, i don't know the right answer I don't think any OP were cruel about the tracker situation they gave their opinion an "opinion" is just that, an opinion no one can be right or wrong about an opinion like others, i think this thread has gotten out of hand The Horse Died!!!! enough said? that's great that you have lost 82 lbs sooooo close to GOAL keep up the good work congrats on weight loss kathy

I definitely knew that OP was including the BMR + calories burned from activity and stating total calories burned in a day. I have noticed that this site has many ultra sensitive folks, and ultra critical folks, and that combo is not always good. I posted a lot in the beginning but I stopped because I feel ppl are often overly critical when some folks are just trying to be honest about their experiences and get feedback from those who have experienced it too. For example, I have drank alcohol multiple times since surgery and I also have continued to lose. I think it's also because when you drink, you tend to eat less, and most likely you're active to some capacity. I'm sure someone will tear me down for this, but I don't follow every single rule and I've still been successful. I'm more than halfway to goal at only 4 months out. Just like any diet or lifestyle change, there will be some days where you splurge a little but the most important part is staying on track and being accountable. On a side note, I wish that we could just be honest adults without worrying that someone will jump all over us. I think the OP got defensive and maybe went a little far after, but I have seen this so many times on here. We all know what it feels like to be criticized, let's try to look at things from the other person's perspective. With that said, Carry on everyone lol ????????

So I am new to the group and haven't introduced myself or given my story. I am 43, female,at start 259 lbs. I have been big my entire life. I have always done a lot of bluff hiking and walking but never lost much for very long. Started getting sick, never feeling good, ending up with diabetes, high cholesterol, high BP oh had I have hidradenitis suppurativa which they say is because of my weight. Which I know is bull because other family has it that is not fat. So when I found out my insurance would finally cover it I decide it was time to stop thinking about it and just do it. So on December 14th I had surgery. It has been a struggle since then. I found out I have non alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver. I skipped the fatty liver and scaring of the liver and went right for cirrhosis. I guess I am doing ok and they are hoping it will turn around or at least stop where it is at. That freaks me out really bad but I can't let my family know that. I am the one that keeps everything together and running smoothly. So I suck it up and worry on my own time. I am having such a hard time getting in my fluids and protein. I get about 20 to 30 oz. of fluids and 20 to 30g of protein a day. I still can't eat more then about 1 med cup of food and I am so full I get sick. I just found out I have a nodule in my stomach that is taking up all the room why I feel full all the time. Oh and I still have to take 30 units of lantus and they still are in the 130-170(for diabetes) But on the plus side I have lost just over 20lbs and 3 in on my waits. I check my weight and measurements and pics every week.I just want to feel better. Going in once a week or so for IV fluids sucks. They usually get the IV in after about 5 pokes and I'm afraid of needles. I however enjoying not having to work. But would go back if it meant feeling better. Any advice from anyone would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for reading

When I read 3000 calories a day and a tracker I knew it was BMR plus exercise they all give you the daily total and the exercise break out. All the people like toss you tracker, really? Do you understand the apps? The alcohol is probably temp dehydrating you and flushing your system when it converts to sugar. I don't think drinking on the weekends is a sustainable weight loss method though. Why is everyone so damn angry in this thread?

I actually thought you were talking about BMR because I have a FitBit that calculates it that way as well. Now that that's cleared up, I have seen something similar happen if I drink a bit of wine but I've always attributed it to dehydration because the same thing happens the day after I've had diarrhea. You most likely are losing normally because you are in a normal deficit. Some people can eat or drink anything the first year and lose. It's after that honeymoon period you have to start watching calories, which you're already doing. While I don't think there is anything wrong with having a glass of wine now or then I've noticed it burns my stomach and the alcohol hits me really fast so I tend to avoid it. Also, most aren't advised to have it until closer to goal weight. There's also a higher risk for bariatric patients to have transfer addiction from food to alcohol so doctors advise you wait to consume. Not saying you have this, but that's why you'll get some negative responses. We've been warned and conditioned to avoid alcohol because of surgery.

What's that sayingz? pot... Kettle....black....nevermind. I'll pass on the advice from one who is 15 weeks post op and already regulalry drinking alcohol and thinking it's aiding in your weight loss. Healthy is my goal though. You've proven not every thin person is healthy.

Listen, being rude doesn't get you anywhere. You said you burned 3,000 calories and then that you track your food, drink, and exercise. That logically leads people to think you believe you are burning 3,000 calories with exercise. Now you link to an article that describes calories burned throughout the day (which is rarely the way people discuss calorie burn but I'll disregard that). So now you lead us to believe you are talking about your total calories burned. It's still not clear what you really mean. Don't get snotty if people don't understand something you've written when it's about as clear as mud. Regardless, it's risky to be drinking alcohol in any amount after WLS. But I'm sure you have all the answers there too. Good luck to you.

@@butterfly23 Yes I would be thankful nothing rude was said vs. nothing at all. My nlaws always say the wrong thing. I have a sister n law who was heavy as a child then as a young adult began with drugs and alcohol. She lost all of her weight and even more than she should. I have know her for 30 years now and never knew her as heavy. Yes, she is still heavily addicted to drugs and alcohol and barely eats anything. She has now become a type 1 diabetic because she basically damaged her pancreas. She is 5'7" and if she weighs 100lbs I would be shocked. Anyway, about 6 months after my surgery which she knew I had, she saw me and informed me that I was loosing way too much weight and I looked sickly thin. I still weighed over 200lbs at the time. I knew she was scared I might become thinner than her and that was her real motive. I have not seen her since August, I have lost quite a bit of weight since then and am 7lbs from goal. I don't look forward to the next time I see her because I am certain rudeness will come shooting out of her mouth. My mother n law would usually make comments about both my weight and my husbands and she was obese herself. It's just strange how people think it is ok to say whatever they want. Be glad......and congratulations on your progress!

More than likely the weight loss you are experiencing is due to dehydration. Let me explain: Alcohol is a diuretic. For every shot of liquor you consume your body will expel an additional 120mL of Fluid. Drinking more Water while you are consuming alcohol isn't as simple of a solution as people make it out to be. You only retain about 1/3 to 1/2 of the water you consume while drinking and the urination won't stop until the alcohol has left your system, and ADH (antidiuretc hormone) levels return to normal.

It's probably not about the alcohol so much as the calories. You say you are burning 3,000 a day (which translates into hours and hours of exercise) and consuming 1,000, so your body is probably entering preservation mode. Even if you meant 300 calories burned per day, that's still a lot of exercise. You might want to up your cals to 1200 or something just to see what happens.

I'm around week 15 and 9 lbs from goal. I am expecting my Weightloss to slow down or stall, but it's not. I have noticed a new pattern and was wondering if anyone else has experienced it and/or your thoughts. First off, I am a very conscientious logger of food, Water, and exercise. I am consuming 1000 calories, 70 grams+ of Protein, 64 ounces of water, and burning 3,000 calories a day. Monday - Friday, I pretty much stall. Then the weekend comes and I have a drink (or two) and the pounds fall off. I have now been observing this for over a month. BTW, I only drink red wine or bourbon/vodka and water. Around 100 calories per drink.

How on earth are you so close to goal at 4 months out?? Thanks for asking! I had an unusual situation. I live in two different places 6 months of the year. In July, I decided I need to make a serious run at weight lost (having been stuck in the 270's for a few years). After some research, I decided to make some calls and look into the sleeve. My dilemma was that that I needed to be on the West Coast for the winter by Thanksgiving, which meant I needed to complete my surgery by early October, which left me with about 3 months to meet a surgeon, get approved, and have my surgery. The first hospital I called said "no way". I then called the #1 WLS hospital in the state (top 5 in the country) and met an incredibly responsive staff. They explained the process and basically said "if you do everything right and we hit all green lights, it might happen." That was good enough for me! My first meeting was my orientation on August 10. Knowing that I might not be quite at BMI 40 and knowing that having to prove comorbidities would take time I didn't have, I basically ate like a pig for the 5 days before the orientation and then stuck around after the meeting and talked a PA into "weighing me in" that night. Voila -- 281 lbs. and a BMI of 40.2. After that, I read everything I could read, got my doctors to write letters, shut off all socializing, stopped drinking alcohol, coffee, or soda, and starting working out an hour a day. On September 2, I finally met the WLS team. I was down 15 lbs (to 266) in three weeks and they were blown away. They were also blown away by the 5 page diet history I presented with integrated doctor's reports going back 7 years. After that, I attended all their meetings and did all their tests as fast as possible, even if it meant spending every day driving around. On October 1, I got approved for an October 19 surgery -- which would have worked, but cut it close for Thanksgiving. I pleaded with the scheduler, who was excellent, and she found a way to get me in for October 6. I was down 31 pounds to 250 on 10/6. After surgery, I continued to follow everything the said and continued to exercise 90 minutes a day. Yesterday I weighed in at 201 (down 81 lbs from HW and 51 from SW). Although I would need to get to 175 to have a BMI of 25, I am a former athlete with a muscular build and competed nationally at 210 lbs. I weighed 175 in 7th grade. Also, I've lost 2 inches in height due to hip issues, so I have a 6' body in a 5'10" frame. The hospital originally said 200, but I upped it to 190. So actually, I'm now 11 pounds from goal...

There is a tool that u blow into like they would with alcohol

I am so sorry your Dr. treated you that way. What a jerk! I went to a diet doctor pre op who fired me as a patient when I cried after only losing 10lbs in 4 months even though I'd exercise 1 to 1 1/2 hours every day, gave up carbs and alcohol etc. What I notice in your last post is a lot of cheese. Try cutting out the cheese. You might be lactose intolerant. Could be causing the constipation. Also, my NUT has me communicate by email. Maybe you can scan your food log and email to NUT and get a quicker response than waiting until Feb. Good luck from fellow slow loser but I'm plugging at it. I've lost more than I would have without surgery.

I think your gonna be fine. The one I went too just made sure I didn't have any drug or alcohol problems or eat disorders. Your already taking medicine and ate aware for what's going on so I think it's gonna be okay. Good luck.