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I do not know when you had WLS. I used to love an occasional beer but not any more. Wine is smooth and gives me heartburn. Margaritas made me gain weight. I want to drink but I am still trying to find that perfect alcohol. I do not know when you had WLS. I used to love an occasional beer but not any more. Wine is smooth and gives me heartburn. Margaritas made me gain weight. I want to drink but I am still trying to find that perfect alcohol. I do not know when you had WLS. I used to love an occasional beer but not any more. Wine is smooth and gives me heartburn. Margaritas made me gain weight. I want to drink but I am still trying to find that perfect alcohol.
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What alcoholic beverage do you drink post-op? I LOVE beer but bc it's carbonated I can't have it. ???????? I don't want nor need negative or rude comments. I like to have social drinks from time to time. ESPECIALLY since it's Mardi Gras! ???????????? Thanks for you help!
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I am an alcoholic in recovery and you are right, there is nothing "mild" about it. I am glad that I have a program behind me to hopefully help me with the adjustments after surgery.
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How was your 5:2 day today?
CowgirlJane replied to Oregondaisy's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
@@UK Cathy good job on the 2# down! I am losing weight and a I am sure the zero alcohol for the last month has h helped -all those carbs! I am at 153.1, down almost 2 from last week. I almost didn't weigh myself as I was expecting a gain. I was desperately hungry as I missed meals yesterday while in the emergency room (started in a walk in clinic and was sent to ER from there.) Anyway I ate about 1/3 bag of sunchips and they were so salty I thought I would be up 2#! How is everyone doing? In spite of my physical misery, my spirits are good. I can't wait to rejoin the real world, which I expect by Wednesday. If I am not way better by then, I will likely be hospitalized but I feel better this morning. No fever, in fact I am back to my cold blooded self, can't even hit "normal" on the thermometer. My leg still looks infected but I need another few days to see that turn around. -
How was your 5:2 day today?
UK Cathy replied to Oregondaisy's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It's good if your levels aren't up isn't it? Well after a try on 5:2 last week I'm down 2lb, not an enormous amount but still down. The fast days were fine it's the weekend (wine and snacks!). One of my fast days will be Wed this week as it is Ash Wed and a natural fast day for me (I'm RC). Hubby has suggested no alcohol for lent and I think I agree with him. It is certainly our weak spot. Kim where are you? Out travelling on that bike of yours. Check in and make us jealous of your trips. -
I also had my first alcoholic beverage(alright, beverages) today at a Super Bowl party. I started with the one, and felt absolutely nothing. It was like drinking regular water. I had a second beverage(changed it up a bit) and nothing. Before surgery I had an extremely high tolerance, to the point I could out drink almost everyone at the bar, including the guys, but doc said that had a lot to do with my type-1 diabetes and the way alcohol metabolizes in my body. I didn't get the slightest buzz and I was doing doubles in low-ball glasses for each drink. I was so proud of myself for staying on plan food wise, even with all of the delicious options being enjoyed by the rest of the party. But back to the alcohol, yes, I was perfectly fine afterwards and felt like I could drink many more with no issues. PS: I had a DD just in case because I wasn't sure how my body was going to react...I'm not chancing anything!
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Good job Sticking to your plan with all the temptations around! I'm one of those who became a total lightweight post op, but I've heard from some for whom alcohol didn't have the same effect.
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@@Afrikanaaa, Great question! I am really surprised your surgeon didn’t seem to know why or was surprised, though! I believe the alcoholism he’s talking about is a type of replacement addiction – it’s an addiction to replace the addiction to food. The new addiction could be alcohol, drugs, or smoking. Or it could be something less obvious and possibly a lot healthier, like an addiction to exercise. Another thing to be aware of with alcohol is that you’re far more sensitive to it with the sleeve. A little goes a long way, and fast. Drink less than you used to, and never on an empty stomach. Good luck!
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Six strong alcoholic drinks.
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Pre-Op Diet.. part of that 60-70%?
Ruth1ess replied to Ruth1ess's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
So far so good I've identified that I use food as a 'reward' for doing well in other areas of my life, as well as stress eating to feel better. Working on rerouting those triggers with other behavior. I drink one beer every week or every other week, or not at all, down from 4-5 weekly. Don't do sugary drinks, never have since living a low carb lifestyle. The occasional diet soda if I feel the craving, but that's rare. I don't do sugar replacements/sugar alcohols. Splenda is a migraine trigger for me, and sugar alcohols are bad for the gut, so I cut them out completely to get my palette used to natural sweetness instead of overly sweet fixations. I've found some Vitamins I like and can tolerate. I've been playing with Protein powders and just bought some unsweetened pea protein, excited to try that. I'm an overachiever... next! -
Pre-Op Diet.. part of that 60-70%?
OutsideMatchInside replied to Ruth1ess's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I think the best way to optimize your results is to do research before surgery. Find out what shakes you like, Try lots of different shakes. Protein shakes are a great tool, they can save you lots of problems. find some you like. Understand the nutrition. Understand the Vitamins Work though any personal issues you have Lower your stress levels if you can. Give up sugary drinks Give up alcohol Find a sugar replacement you like (stevia, Xylitol, etc) Learn to cook healthy low carb meals The best to optimize your results is to make sure you can follow your program. If you follow your program and you like following it. Meaning you don't feel deprived or punished, you can be more successful. -
@@2goldengirl I think you nailed it. Alcohol addiction doesn't just happen, we slide into it. But I think if you were addicted to eating (or drugs, whatever) before wls, you may become addicted to drinking at any time. I was never addicted to eating. My problem was an oversized stretched stomach and misinformation about what to eat to lose weight. I'm the chef and we seldom ate out. I purchased and prepared all our meals and knew what I was eating. By the way, wls won't cure eating addiction, it will simply make it impossible to stuff your face at one sitting. I have no doubt that even at mid-honeymoon, I good consume 5,000 calories a day eating candy and chips without a drop of alcohol. I now plan my meals every morning and stick to my plan. On weekends, my plan includes 200-300 calories of alcohol and I log after each pour. Yesterday I totaled 1435 calories, so I walked 5 miles to offset the extra 225 calories of vodka. I also try to drink extra Water before and after to offset the diuretic effect. As long as I'm following this type of regimen, I'm not addicted to anything. That said, I'm 5 pounds away from goal and FULLY cognizant of the slippery slope that lies ahead if/when I stop logging! Stay tuned...
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The therapist who did my psych eval has worked with bariatric surgery patients for 14 years, and talking about transfer addiction is something she talks about in every eval she does - more as a caveat to preop candidates that the need to learn to cope without food is serious business. I think another factor for many is that being seriously overweight leads to social isolation for many. Once the weight is lost, those who may have felt socially isolated may enjoy becoming more socially active, but a feeling of awkwardness can remain. Alcohol can numb the awkwardness, but given the way many postops have a lower tolerance for alcohol, it can be a problem.
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The first thing I would ask is why do you ask this question? Seriously, what information and/or statement were you hoping to make? I have been a 3-4 day a week social drinker for 40+ years. Since my VSG, I find that I drink less and enjoy it equally well. I discussed this with my surgical team and they agreed that the VSG would help me reduce my moderate alcohol consumption and it has!
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I am an alcoholic -- I have been sober for 15 years. I can see the transfer addiction issue because while I was doing the pre-op classes, I saw a clear connection between changing my life after weight loss surgery and the change I went through when I got sober. The stress management techniques and some of the other things they taught at pre-op class were very similar to the techniques I learned from my AA sponsor.
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Ability to drink alcohol post-op, your experiences?
Bigboy76 replied to PlzCoolerMe's topic in The Guys’ Room
This is an old forum...but humor me fellas. How do you handle alcohol after sleeve??? I'm like 1.5 years post sleeve. I love Whiskey. I find I get a huge up front buzz after drinking it..but it fades after 30 min or so. Just curious what other Bros are experiencing. I can drink about 3 mixed drinks before I need to chill...but same thing...it wears off after 30-45 minutes. Hit me up!! -
I must say that I drank to excess before surgery and always figured I was alcoholic; for the pre-surgery diet I just quit and really had no difficulties doing so; since then I had 2 drinks (before surgery) after work on the last day before our Christmas shutdown, and nothing since surgery. Again, it seems way too easy...always thought I would suffer more The Dr. said my liver looked good except that it was very fatty...no cirrhosis thank God and good genetics! I guess now thinking about adding 500+ calories daily of sugar back to my diet and most likely arresting my weight loss...after going thru what I have in the last few months seems a bit silly, so any thoughts of drinking are quickly vanquished by the urge to continue to drop weight every week.
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Mardi Gras and Lent - good excuse to give up something you've been using for a cheat?
Margie122 replied to itstimealready's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am going to give up chocolate for Lent. I know I shouldn't be eating it, but some days when I REALLY REALLY REALLY just want something I give in and have a KISS or two or three. It's not good. So chocolate is it. I also love natural Peanut Butter with apple slices, but I think it can be a trigger food for me so that's going to be given up for Lent too. I haven't had ANY alcohol since 4/1/2015 so I can't give that up I also do not drink any kind of soda. I could try to limit my coffee intake to 2 cups or less a day. When it's cold out I do love my decaf hazelnut. Chocolate and peanut butter - totally abstain and coffee - 2 cups or less.....BAZINGA. That's going to do it for this buffet Catholic! -
It only took 25 hours but yes, I made it yeah! And lots of alcohol waiting when I got here has helped to dull the irritation of yesterday.
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This month is the five month anniversary of my sleeve surgery. Next week is a big company meeting. I had set a personal goal of achieving 50% weight loss by that date. I will hit that goal or be within a pound of it. My rate of loss has seemed slow to me but after looking at the charts I realize it has been pretty steady with great progress, just a bit slower than I'd anticipated. So far I've been very pleased with every aspect of this journey. Here are a few of my victories and observations post surgery. Victories: Weight loss - 55 pounds - halfway to goal Clothing sizes - Went from (men's) size 46 slacks to 40, size 19 shirts to 17 1/2, size 4xl t-shirts to 2xl sleep apnea - Gone Type 2 diabetes - Gone Joint aches, pains and stiffness - Gone High blood pressure - went from 2 meds to 1, and only half the dose of that one Other NSV's: Airplanes - went from almost needing a seat belt extender to being able to put the tray table down all the way Travel - can now sleep in most any hotel bed without needing the mattress and pillows to be 'just right' Stairs - I used to be winded at the top of a flight of stairs, but can bound up them now with no issues. Exercise - much easier now and I have more stamina. Some observations: Stalls - I've found that I stall easily and really need to watch my program closely. Diet - It's a tight balance - too few calories and I stall. Too many and I stall. Hunger - I never realized how much of my problem was "head hunger" or bored snacking until the real hunger went away. Snacking - is an insidious enemy and can derail progress without you knowing it. You have to account for everything you eat. Alcohol - I can have a drink or two without problem, but it does stop my loss for a couple of days. Better save it for maintenance. I lost weight rapidly for the first couple of months but have noticed now I've settled into a fairly steady rate of loss of around 2 pounds per week. I'm fine with this rate as long as I can keep it going. Over time it will require more exercise to maintain but at this rate I should hit my goal weight at about my one year surgery anniversary. That is now my new goal.
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I am so sorry for the loss of your aunt. 10 years ago, it probably was not the sleeve, but doesn't really matter. A coworker of mine had gastric bypass, what I didn't know is she was a type 1 diabetic. She got very thin, was anxious and sick alot then she didn't work for our company anymore. About a year later I found out she died in her sleep at age 40 - essentially from alcoholism and the diabetes. She had also abandoned her family, had gotten fired from her job- she went off the rails so to speak. It happened astonishingly fast too, I would say less then 3 years from her surgery. I had known her casually for years and I didn't even recognize the person she morphed into - due to the alcoholism. It is a serious subject.
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My aunt passed away 2 years ago of complications resulting from alcoholism. She had WLS about 10 years ago, and i do believe it was the sleeve but not 100% on that. I'm not sure whether alcohol became her vice after surgery or whether it was a medley of issues (probably the later), but what i do know is that it all happened in a flash really. I mean, 8 years is a relatively short amount of time to drink yourself to death and i can't say that i believe having had the WLS wasn't a factor in the excellerated prgression of her disease. What i know is that we, people, while different on so many levels, all share a common problem that we have sought medical help for- our addiction to food. I can see how easy it could be to swap one bad habit for another. I love drinking and eating. Only 9 days post op and I am terrified of making poor choices again...food, drink, all.of it. At the same time, i have had.moments of fear that I'll never be able to indulge it all again. Also terrifying. That is all.
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Has anyone been denied for depression or other mental illness?
ava32 replied to kaylababy1229's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
She came off really judgmental in my opinion. In my initial application I shared that I have 3-5 drinks a week and that I was a victim of sexual abuse. I straight out asked if she had the power to deny or approve my surgery and she told me that she doesn't. She said she shares her notes with my surgeon and it all depends on my surgeon. She did suggest that I go to therapy. Yeah. She basically implied that I was an alcoholic. I wish I wasn't so candid in my initial application if I'd knew they would throw everything back in my face. And told me I need to go to see a therapist. I explained to her that I'm a full time student who can barely afford the visits for getting cleared for surgery, let alone a psychiatrist. Because of my mom's insurance I have to do a mandatory six month supervised weight loss. I'm currently on my second month. -
@@Kindle oh no.. Sorry about your horrific delay. I know you were looking so forward to your warm trip to Florida. Hope the alcohol keeps you toasty until you get to the sunny rays!!
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In ALL my years of heavy domestic and international biz and for-fun travel, I have NEVER sat on a parked plane for 8 hours. That's insane. Really. They should be passing out heroin, not alcohol.
