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2/21/23 Sleeves - how is your recovery going?
Merri Beth replied to Victoria_Faith's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I had my surgery Nov 29, 2022, went to the Dr today and I am down 54 LBS. I finally hit oneder land. I started at 240 and today my weight was 186. I was suprised because i didn't think I had lost much. -
Losing a pound a week is ... a lot ! I look at it this way... how much weight were you losing before you started this journey - before dieting to shrink your liver, before you even thought about surgery ? For me the answer was that I would lose a few pounds and put it right back, and obviously, I was gaining net weight !!!! If you lose 5 pounds a month; in a year, you will have lost 60 more pounds !!! THAT is an achievement of huge note ! How many pounds does it take to lose a "dress size" ? 10 to 15 pounds. Are you ready to lose 4 to 6 sizes in a year ? THAT is another huge victory ! We start out losing a lot of weight and forget that the weight we lose after those first few months are added to the weight we have already lost. Keep at it. You are doing great. Do not think about the WHAT IF's of a different surgical procedure. Instead think about the Where would I be without surgery ? You are fine. Your surgery is fine. Keep up the GREAT WORK !
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How did you lose so much weight? How do you answer this question
omrhsn replied to omrhsn's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
My sister who had her surgery before me also used a similar "cover up" story for her WLS. She has a hernia also. We had our surgeries with the same doctor within three weeks and started losing weight around the same time. Luckily we don't live in the same country otherwise our extended family members would have noticed lol. "working with a nutritionist and working out" is exactly what are you doing now, so stick to that. You won't be misleading people by telling them this. It worked for some people without the WLS (not for me tho). Good luck -
From what my surgeon told me and what I’ve read - the first 6 months are more rapid then you can expect to lose 1-2 lbs/week. The slower weight loss is a healthy rate of weight loss. Now everybody is different and if you’re on the lower side of BMI the loss will more likely be slower than those with a higher starting BMI. But any loss is still that, a loss!
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How did you lose so much weight? How do you answer this question
3Jaysmom replied to omrhsn's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
One thing that helped me is that I had a hiatal hernia- which I’d mentioned to friends from work before because I’ve always had “odd” eating issues. So it was easy to explain the time away by telling them that I’m finally getting it fixed- and I technically did, I just also had a few other major things done at the same time, lol. When it comes to the weight loss (I’m not quite where anyone would notice just yet) I feel really weird about it. I’m always up front with people about things because I feel like people who leave big things out are misleading, which isn’t fair- for example, people often think I’m younger and ask about what skin care treatments I use or whatever, I’ll tell them, and say “….plus a hefty dose of Botox in my frown lines!” because I just feel weird about “taking credit” for something that’s not natural, or that what if they buy the same skincare stuff and expect the same results. Idk, I’m overthinking it probably. But when it comes to my gastric bypass, I feel so much more private about it because I’m not anyone who would ever acknowledge my weight in any way. I just don’t feel comfortable with comments about my appearance at all, so I’m dreading people making comments of any kind, even that they think are positive. I’ve even told my husband to tell my MIL that I got it and to not make ANY comments about my weight in general or how much I’ve lost, no matter how complimentary she thinks they are. This is mainly because I was at a fit weight for most of my life, so she wasn’t shy about constantly commenting on my weight as it crept up (under the guise of concern, of course 🙄) so her saying things like “it’s about time you stopped eating so much and lost weight!” is not out of the question. I’m just hoping the vague “working with a nutritionist and working out!” will keep the people who I’m not close to from asking any further questions. Maybe I can just be a shut in and avoid it altogether, lol. -
I had surgery on 8/17/2022, so just under 7 months ago. and at this point my weight loss has slowed so much that I am lucky if I lose 5 lbs. a month. I wasn't expecting the weight loss to slow down already. It almost makes me wish I went with Bypass. Has anyone else slowed so soon?
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I had sleeve 3/9/2021 and have regained almost all the weight. I met with the NP at the surgeons office yesterday to inquire about revision and she suggested phentermine. I have to admit I’m not even in a hurry to pick it up from pharmacy cause I don’t have too much faith it’s gonna work for me. I am glad to see some success stories here and hope that I am one of them.
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Is the second time around ever more successful and why?
ShoppGirl replied to ShoppGirl's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
She didn’t really say how long she wants me to try the phentermine but she does want to see me back in a month. She said there are a couple more meds to try so maybe she was speaking of those you mentioned if this one doesn’t work. I am just a little worried I will lose just enough to disqualify me weight wise for revision and not be able to lose anymore. BUT, I am on a few meds that are pretty important and she said because of that she would like to see me try everything before I decided on revision and that made sense to me. I’m just a little curious why they didn’t have me try all this before the first surgery to be honest other than they know it won’t work. Lol -
Is the second time around ever more successful and why?
TheRevisionedVagabond replied to ShoppGirl's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Yes, I'm the same as you!! I didn't lose all my weight with the sleeve as well and I'm hoping I end up losing just as much, if not more. I agree that if it was an amazing loss, you'd remember. Haha! But man, I hope it works out for you. If you are in the States, you could also try Ozempic, Wegovy, or Mounjaro or something? Idk. This is what I'm seeing going around the revision fb groups and people are having crazy success. However, I think most regain once they're off of it. Hmmm, yeah.. It does seem like converting might be the better option but I'm no doctor. Everything else just seems like a quick fix, you know? How long does she want you on it? -
BARELY any weight loss in first two weeks??
lexylynn92 replied to MaameWata's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I'm in the same boat as you. I hit my three weeks and I gained three lbs. I keep reading and hearing everyone saying it takes time but I still feel frustrated af and like I am regretting the procedure. It feels so unfair to feel like I am going through so much and not losing anymore. A spoonful too much of soup makes me vomit but I am still stalled. The big goal I wanted to hit was to get under 200 even if it was just 199 and as usual as I got close to the goal my body is fighting it and I feel doomed to be big forever. I know that is not a great mentality and I constantly try to fight back on those thoughts but some days (more lately) I can't help but just to sulk and cry about it. If you are like me I don't think there is anything anyone can tell us to make us feel better until we can see tangible results. So here is what I can offer you. You are not alone in this feeling or regret and despite all the success posts you see or it feeling like all these people are losing but not you just know that there are probably just as many that are not losing right now and feels just like us. It's just so much easier to post success than perceived failure. Hang in there. Try to focus on non scale victories and celebrate that you are ultimately make changes to be healthier. Also just feel those feelings it's okay and they are valid. It's frustrating to not see the results you wanted and it's okay to be frustrated as long as you keep pushing forward. Sent from my SM-S908U using BariatricPal mobile app -
Is the second time around ever more successful and why?
ShoppGirl replied to ShoppGirl's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Congratulations on your loss and thanks for sharing your experience this far. I met with the NP yesterday and she said she would really like to see me try weight managements before I commit to revision so she prescribed me phentermine. I know I have tried it in the past but honestly can’t remember how I did on it (seems like it if was an amazing loss I would remember though). I have a feeling I will end up converting as you did. Although I really hope it’s not true about losing less cause I never lost all my weight with the sleeve. -
Is the second time around ever more successful and why?
TheRevisionedVagabond replied to ShoppGirl's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Really sorry to hear you're having issues with regain. Hopefully the surgeon gave you some helpful information! I just had my revision on the 10th of February, so I can't quite say too much on whether or not its more successful the second time around, but I can tell you the expectations that I received from my surgeon! I was told that it is in fact slower the second time around, but this is okay because that means the weight loss should be steady and you're more likely to keep it off. Additionally, he told me that you'll lose about 10-15 percent less than what you lost the first time around. If you're smaller, the weight loss will be slower since you're closer to a healthier BMI than someone who is way over. Another thing that plays a part is the length of the limbs of the bypass (assuming thats what you revise to and not a re-sleeve). I believe that the longer the limbs, the more weight you lose. As for me, I had the sleeve then revised to the gastric bypass and its a little different, ngl. Instead of feeling full from tightness like I got with my sleeve, I get the hiccups which is funny but annoying as well since they hurt since im so early out. I'm not hungry at. all. Like, its a little concerning. Hahaha! But I did not get this sensation with my sleeve. I was hungry right out of surgery. Recovering was an absolute breeze. Within a few days, I was walking around like nothing happened. So far, the weight loss is moving at the same pace as it was with my sleeve, so I'm happy about that. Since surgery, I've lost 7kg. Surgery day, I started at 116kg (255lbs) and am now at 109 (240). Hope this info was at least a little helpful! -
We have special concerns as smaller people; I often feel like my weight loss success doesn't sound as impressive when I compare myself to people taller than me (A lot of people on this forum have lost more than you and I started out weighing!). So be careful with that, don't compare yourself. I get fun size, travel size, micro person, the whole spectrum LOL. I used to hate being short but I can't change it so I try to have a good sense of humor about it.
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More than 200lbs to lose
BriarRose replied to LuckyLibra1018's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I have lost 158 pounds. I went from 320 to 161. I would like to lose to 160 then I will be half of myself. On my sleeve. It isn't a race. The weight will come off if you learn yourself and how to maintain and how to do this. You can do it. Look at what you have already done. You are doing great, and can do this !!! -
I never lost feeling hungry. But very little filled me up. Like a teaspoon of minced chicken salad every two hours, once I got to semi solid . Even now, 12 years out, I can eat a very small baked chicken thigh and a couple ounces of sweet potato, and 1/3 c of applesauce for dinner and i am soo done. What I realized when I gained back some weight, was that I NEVER learned in my entire life how to maintain my weight - I was always either losing weight or gaining it. BAM ! total mind blowing experience. So I started losing the weight I had put on, and after 10 pounds gone; I purposely stopped losing weight even though I wanted to lose 30 more pounds. And I maintained that 10 pound weight loss. I ate more, I ate higher calories. I found out what I needed to eat/how much I needed to move to stay at THAT weight. MIND blown. After a couple months, I purposely. With INTENT lost another 10 pounds. Slowly. Then stopped again. 2 months at that weight. And so on. Then I got to the down 40 pounds which was my goal. I stayed with in 5 pounds of that weight for a YEAR !!! A few months back, I decided to do 5 more pounds. That was harder. But I did it. And another 5 pounds. Right now I am a pounds under that, and pretty happy. Might do another 3 pounds but very slowly and carefully because at 67 years old I haven't weighed this since the 1970's !!! And I am loving it, I eat well. I have some dietary limitations and eat low fiber and low residue as a medical necessity. Darn. But I had to figure out what would work for ME. Took me most of a lifetime. But so glad.
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Anyone else lose so much you ended up with Neck Waddle
Arabesque replied to jenforr108's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
It’s all skin that has been over stretched much like an old well used hair band or old well worn knickers. Your skin will bounce back a little but factors like age (we stop producing elastin in our early 20s), how much weight you carried, how long you carried it, genetics, etc. impact how much loose skin you end up with. There’s nothing you can do about except have it surgically removed. Exercising works on the muscles not the skin so the scaffolding underneath might be better but the skin will still be loose except for what you fill out with muscle. Collagen & retinal creams won’t really help with the laxity (certainly not how much we can have). They will make your skin smoother, even out skin tone & texture. Same with collagen supplements. Honestly I’ve tried a few things for various periods of time and I still have loose skin. I’d give it 4-6 months & if no change I gave up on it. My skin quality has improved & my arms are nicely shaped but I still have bat wings, marionette lines on my face & a little waddle. Initially after my loss I had a number of fine lines that ran from under my chin. They’ve reduced dramatically but whether it was RF, collagen serums, collagen supplements, UV lights, my remaining body fat resettling & a better diet I don’t know but there’s still loose skin. I had some filler put in the side of my face just in front of my ears - was sunken there as I had no fat left in those pockets at all. Thought we ‘d try it to see if I got a little lift too - not noticeable if it did give a lift but my face shape is better. I’m trying dermal needling RF (Secret RF) at the moment. Predominately for acne scarring but if I get a little tightening that’s a bonus. I know it won’t get rid of it. I mean I am almost 58 & naturally should have some laxity & saggy skin. Aging & gravity are hard to beat … except with surgery. The loose skin is way better than being obese. -
Anyone else lose so much you ended up with Neck Waddle
Recidivist replied to jenforr108's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Oh, yes--along with drooping jowls. I look so much older than I did before surgery. However, that's a small price to pay for the overall benefits of weight loss. As a man, I'm not so interested in plastic surgery on any other part of my body, but I've been looking into a lower face and neck lift. Perhaps later this year. -
Anyone else lose so much you ended up with Neck Waddle
jenforr108 posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
3 years ago I had a RNY bypass, lost 126 lbs. I’m down to a size 8 some 6’s but I’ve always liked my clothes loose. I’m still trying to get use to the changes to my body, and I’m wondering what others have done to better these problem areas. Mine is my neck, I now have all this extra skin that hangs like a Turkey waddle and I’m very conscious of it. When the pandemic was happening and we had to wear masks I could hide it with the mask. Now that the pandemic is pretty much under control tho I feel like that’s what people look at when they look at me. Please help me, get rid of this, is there exercises that will get rid of it? I’ve been using collagen and retinol creams and putting collagen in my soups even. Plastic surgery is my last resort if there even is a surgery to remove neck skin. My other problem area is my arms - bat wings, I’ve been lifting 10 lb weights doing various exercises and I do see some change but not enough that completely satisfy me, again I use my lotions and take my collagen but could use some suggestions from someone that might have had the same issues and let me know what they did. Thank you😀- 10 replies
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It’s still a Gastric Bypass tho. A person would automatically think you would loose weight..they need to be more specific. Thank you for your opinion very much
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I don't see why not. There are many here who hit goal weight after having a virgin sleeve. But unfortunately, band to vsg usually doesn't have as high of success rates to get to goal. They may lose some weight but not as drastic as those who never had a previous wls.
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This. At least most likely. I can remember when I got my revision (MGB to RNY) I asked if there would be changes in weight, i. e. I wanted to know if it would be more difficult to maintain the weight after revision or not. I doubt that the surgeon would have mentioned the weight thing if I hadn't specifically asked about it. For them it was fixing the reflux and repairing the hiatal hernia.
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What an encouragement!!! I’m so afraid that I won’t make it to goal weight, and that I’ll stop losing any day now. I don’t care if it takes a year, I’m fine with that. And about being short… hubby calls little girls like us “fun size” 🤭 Thanks so much for responding, it really means a lot!
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In defense of the surgeons, I think one of the reasons doctors either don't tell you (some warn you of minimal weightloss) that a revision due to gerd often results in minimal weightloss is because to them, it isn't about the weight to them, it is to fix your gerd. You can't live a quality life suffering from severe gerd day in and day out. I couldn't sleep at night and during the day towards the end, I had to have food constantly in my stomach or the knawing feeling in my stomach would never go away, and my throat literally burned all day no matter what. It was miserable.
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I'm currently taking a graduate-level nutrition course on obesity and weight loss, and this article is pretty typical of the stuff we have for readings - i.e. written in highly specialized language that you'd practically have to have a chemistry degree to understand! Fortunately, I'm not taking the course for credit, because I sure wouldn't want to be tested on these articles! at any rate, I do know that with sleeve, the fundus part of the stomach is removed, and that's the part where most of the ghrelin is produced, so hunger levels go way down (because the ghrelin level is what lets the brain know that your body needs food. If the level is low, your brain knows that you need to eat, and you feel hungry. If the ghrelin level is high, then nope - not hungry - don't need to eat). Ghrelin is produced in other parts of the stomach as well, but a majority is made in the fundus, so levels automatically go way down - and stay low - once that part of the stomach is removed. the fundus isn't removed in RNY (in fact, none of the stomach is removed - it's just sectioned off), but I don't know how just having the major center of ghrelin production in the part of stomach that is no longer used affects ghrelin levels in your blood. I don't think researchers necessarily know that, either. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Although most RNY patients lose their hunger as well. But they think it could also be due to the actions of some of the other hunger-related hormones, like leptin and GLP-1. They do know that RNY causes leptin levels to increase (and leptin is a hormone that causes a feeling of satiety. I can't remember what exactly GLP-1 does, but it has a role in hunger and satiety, too). At any rate, there have been research studies on RNY patients who are a year out, and their ghrelin levels are very low compared to "normal" people. So suffice this to say, ghrelin levels are abnormally low in RNY patients, too - but not for the same reasons that they are in sleeve patients. It could be that the major ghrelin-producing area is now in the remnant section of the stomach - or it could be that changes in some of the other hunger-related hormones could cause changes in the ghrelin level. (Or maybe it's due to a little of both...)
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So scared and almost to scheduling
catwoman7 replied to NikkiRose89's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
pretty normal fear - I'm guessing most of us had similar thoughts before going under the knife. However, the mortality rate on RNY is 0.3%. Those are actually excellent odds - lots of common surgeries - like hip replacement surgeries, for example - are less safe than RNY. Years ago weight loss surgeries were pretty risky, but they're just not anymore. Techniques have changed, and they're so common it's almost become a routine surgery. Anyway, at those odds, you have a 99.7% chance of sailing through just fine - and you will. your chances of a premature death by staying obese are actually much greater than dying from the surgery.
