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Weight loss expectations VSG to RNY??
mi75 posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Almost 8 yrs VSG and had severe GERD beforehand. It significantly decreased post op but I've remained on PPI medication the entire time. I was down to 1-2 total doses per week, however I had some regain over the last year and am up to THREE TIMES daily!! It's everything to do with how I carry my weight- all in my middle. While I was quite satisfied with the GERD being almost totally resolved initially, I'm fearful that even IF I lose the current regain it won't go away to the extend that it was in the past. I have been told by my bariatric team that a revision is likely the ONLY way to get the GERD to go away with 100% certainty. That sounds pretty good to me but I am quite fearful of surgery in general because I'm a nurse practitioner and we make terrible patients... I would love to know what the loss pattern was like for those who had the revision and can I plan to see awesome results? I mean, BESIDES the GERD clearing up? I am currently about 40 lbs about my ULTIMATE goal- I never reached that goal with my VSG, stopping about 12 lbs away from it... -
I have bcbs of mn and mine was submitted yesterday! I hope it works, I was denied within 3 days last time because of miss info from ins to doc they said I needed 3-4 pre op req visits I actually needed 6 for the sleeve, so I'm done now and should be no fight but ins is ins so who knows! They have 10 days or so he said to approve or deny. I'm a revision and on the books for June 10 pending approval!
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After being overweight my entire life I decided to get the lap band in dec. 2012. I really wanted gastric sleeve surgery at the time, but my insurance didn't cover it and I felt bypass was "too extreme". My band never could get in the "green zone" and because I traveled for work, often times would be in horrible pain because due to cabin pressure the saline in my band would get tighter. I was miserable! After continually vomiting, uncontrollable acid reflux and weight gain I decided to switch surgical programs and seek new advice. My new doctor advised me on having a revision done and now my insurance approves the sleeve surgery. I thought about it a few months as I was hesitant with feeling like such a failure with the band. In fact I was quite open with my first surgery but people would say later "I thought you were supposed to lose lots of weight?". It just added to my feelings of failure and this round I'm being much more protective of who I talk to about it. I've not gotten a lot of support for my choice but hope by joining this group others will be able to understand my journey and share their own. I'm now going through the approval process and hope to get my sleeve at the end of June.
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It's hard to believe but I got my band 4 years ago. I am down between 75-80 pounds overall. (Of course I want to lose those extra 10-20-25 lbs, but if I just stay where I am, I am ok too.) I love my band and can't imagaine life without it. In this time a lot of things have happened, as they always do. First, I had breast cancer, which came with chemo, a mastectomy, radiation, reconstruction etc. But through it all, I happily kept the band. I had only one hurdle with it though... after the mastectomy I had a wicked reaction to the anesthesia so after heaving for hours in the recovery room, the band was dislodged and I had to have a "revision." Unfortunately the next year I had another slip and another revision. I'm really quite careful now and am relieved that I am basically at the year mark and intact. I did have to have it loosened recently, then quickly gained 8 lbs, but am now back on the way down. It is distressing to regain but a relief to know that I can get back on track again, without too much damage done. So you can see life with a band is much like life itself, somewhat unpredictable and not a straight line of perfection. But the band is the tool that I feel has saved my life and self esteem. I am grateful for it every day. It gives me something that other people have, but I either don't have or lost along the way, an internal brake telling me that I'm full. It's that simple. People who know ask what I miss... not much. Bagels? I had enough for a lifetime, but sometimes I'll pick at the outer crust. Steak? I can live without it. Lobster? Oh well... nothing is really a big deal. I feel I can eat a little of almost anything... To those who are on the journey, good luck. Questions welcome, of course.
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Revision questions for those who can relate!
cyncitygirl posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Hi. I am 5 weeks out and I am a band to sleeve revision (one year apart) and AFTER my revision my surgeon told me ppl who had the band before usually lose slower and have less restriction. I feel this is exactly what has happened to me. Some days I am not that hungry and can eat 4bites and I'm full and then some days (like today, sadly) I feel hungry most of the day and eat 1000calories. On an average day I eat 700-850calories. Judging by others on this site it seems like most people 5weeks out can only eat 500calories!!! Am I a total f$&k up or what?! I feel 500cal is not possible for me. I don't feel like I'm exaggerating as I'm eating Protein but I don't have a problem eating 5-6 small portions. I have lost 15lbs since being sleeved 5weeks ago. Am I normal? Lol Anyone else feel they can eat more or less because of the band revision? -
Getting to eat real food - What does you diet look like?
shoregirl75 posted a topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I am post revision from sleeve to bypass 5 weeks today and I'm starting to transition to a more normal diet. I had a really tough time in the beginning with dehydration and then I had a stay back in the hospital for a bowel obstruction, but I am doing much better now. My eating has gone pretty well the last week. There were a few things my stomach just didn't like but I am learning what it likes and doesn't like. I just wondered what others normal daily menu looked like what portion sizes you are eating. I know everyone one post-op plans and doctors orders seem to be different, so I though it would be interesting to see what others are doing. If you want post pictures of you meals to show portions sizes I think that would be helpful for lots of us to see. Thanks in advance for your time.! -
August 3rd, revision from VSG to RNY due to reflux and esophagitis. Feels so weird going through all my pre-op steps again!
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What Was Your Bmi When You Were Sleeved?
M2G replied to kimmr's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
There is a member here named Jax who was a band to sleeve revision who only had about 15lbs or so to lose. I know she lost the 15 plus a few more so I'm sure she had a relatively low BMI when she was sleeved. And she has been easily maintaining. -
Revision questions for those who can relate!
Success2013 replied to cyncitygirl's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I didn't have a revision, just the sleeve, but I can eat a while yogurt or drink a whole shake, but food is a whole different story. and each meat is different on how much I can eat. the food scale is a life saver! some meats I can only have 1 ounce and others I can eat 2 ounces. -
revision from band to bypass
mybuddha2be replied to wish to be slim's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
i get my revision from sleeve to bypass on tues if you want to keep in touch i'll tell u all about it. -
revision from band to bypass
wish to be slim posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
hi all i had a gastric band fitted in nov 2012 and have had numerous problems , fills and defills and even a period of 18months with nothing in my band , i decided to start again in april this year and have fills but having got to 5mls have had to have two defills putting me now at 4mls . i never know from one day to the next how my eating will be , one day i can be pretty ok and the next i may struggle with a yoghurt . i have after some time enquired about revision surgery from my band to the gastric bypass and have plucked up the courage to book a consultation to discuss it properly , i am also seeing my gp this coming tuesday with a view of mentioning it to her amongst other things . i have struggled with my weight pretty much all my life and not a day goes by when it is not in the forefront of my mind , i also suffer with depression , weight being a large part of that since being subjected to bullying re my weight at senior school . So sad am i my favourites tv programmes are about weight loss , especially dr now ! can anyone tell me of their experience with revision in this way , what type of things do you manage to eat ? do you struggle with salads and fruit like me ? is it a case of you plate is a side plate size or smaller but no food groups are a major issue like with me , sorry if this all sounds silly things to ask but i struggle with the heathiest of things which is just miserable and mad , any tips , experiences and advice would be most grateful . thankyou x -
July 2019 - Surgery Schedule
GreenTealael replied to Mom_of_Chaos's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Forgot to update... I think 😁 Post revision to RNY, back home doing great & feeling good -
Frustration over Blis rules on no revision surgeries.
gloinva replied to gloinva's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
PS Apparently Blis covers first time surgery but not revisions. I could understand if I hadn't been successful with the band but I did well with the weight loss. They site the chances of stricture as high with the sleeve, but that would be for any sleeve right not just revisions from banding? Does anyone have figures on complication rates? -
Frustration over Blis rules on no revision surgeries.
gloinva posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Hi All, Well as a very unhappy bander who had a sleeve surgery date (6/20) Passed nutritionist appt.. pysc evailuation, and was waiting to take the sleeve class tomorrow I received frustrating news today. First, I am self pay, I was self pay in 2008 when I had my band put in. Used the same Dr. here in VA who was to do my sleeve. The call I had today was to tell me that Blis, the co. for self pay catastrophic insurance ( part of my surgery fee now may not approve revision to the sleeve because of all the complications that can occur). My stats are below but I have kept off most all of the 85 lbs. (all but 12-15) in the 3 years I have had my band. Despite all the problems this band has given me. So my BMI is lower than someone who will be a new VSG patient. I have no major health issues, no diabeties, no history of clots, no HBP, I really am healthier than when I had the band surgery. The revisions my DR. has done from band to sleeve have all been paid by health insurance. They have not done a self pay revision. His results are good from what I can tell and he is a Blis participating DR. My question is have any of you had this issue? Scrapping up the $ again was no small feat but now to hear they may not approve it means I might have to sign away permission to pay any and all possible complication costs if he will still do the surgery. Or just have my band out and nothing further done, which scares me of further weight gain. Despite my constant gerd, esophageal spasms. and not being able to eat solid foods well, I need this restriction! -
Conversion from Gastric Sleeve to Bypass
Jillbeme65 replied to noellegz1's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am going through the steps now for the revision. I to have reflux real bad. I had it before the sleeve and now it is unbearable. One thing I didn't know about before having it in 2012. The surgeon is doing a barium swallow on Thursday to see how much damage is done. I always thought I was alone. Good to know it's not in my head. Lol -
Conversion from Gastric Sleeve to Bypass
val replied to noellegz1's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
i ha the bands, was revised to the sleeve and now the bypass. with the sleeve, i had severe reflux and vomited many times a day. that is all gone ive had some other issues with intermittent abdominal pain that they are working on now. but it is still better than what i experienced with the sleeve -
Almost Four Years Sleeved - A Cautionary Tale
Last Chance Lil posted a topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
In October 2007 I was sleeved in Perth Western Australia by a surgeon named Jon Armstrong (aka Gorgeous Jon). I had a textbook recovery and without really trying or exercising I lost 50kg (over 100 lbs) in the first six months. I went down from 380 lbs to 260lbs and was feeling great. Then I separated from my husband, and ended up having a nervous breakdown and leaving my job. I was diagnosed with major depression, Binge ating Disorder and anxiety. During this time I turned to my old friend food for comfort and started eating junk food and binge eating. I discovered I could eat a lot more than I had before and fairly soon was back to regaining weight. Bad food choices, snacking and overeating led me to stretch my sleeve and now I've regained half of the weight I had lost. Most surgeons consider less than 50% excess weight lost as a VSG "failure". My surgeon has suggested I think about having a gastric bypass as I am still morbidly obese. He's refused a revision or a lapband on the sleeve. I am trying the pre-op liquid diet to kick start my weight loss and will then go on to counting calories and exercising to try and shift some of the weight as I think the bypass is a last resort. More surgery?! I don't know. It's already cost me $20,000 to get this far and I will be out of pocket another $8,000 if I have the bypass. My surgeon has done over 500 procedures and only has three "failures". He suggested my stomach may be overly efficient and empties very quickly, enabling me to eat almost as much now as I did before surgery. Examples: 250g steak, fries and salad or six slices of pizza. I am seeing a therapist to help with my emotional eating and binge eating issues. i really wish I had seen a counsellor before and after my surgery to address these problems early on. I don't regret having the VSG, because I am still lighter now than before the surgery. But I wish things had turned out differently... I now weigh 137kg (about 300 lbs) and need to get down to 80kg to be almost healthy weight range. I'm desperately hoping my stomach will shrink back a little now I'm doing a 12 week liquid and vegetables diet. -
Poll and Questions for those already Sleeved:
LilMissDiva Irene posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I have a poll in regards to hunger suppression. I have also created a few questions for those who have been sleeved at least more than a few months. I have been thinking about a revision from band to sleeve for more than awhile now. I keep going back and forth with it. I won?t go into details right now with my band because maybe I?m just being a little selfish with my reasons, but that to me is really important right now. I?m not getting any younger and I just want something that actually will give me what is advertised! Thanks to anyone who is willing to help out a bit? J I?m sure most of these questions have been asked a zillion times, but I?m going to start moving forward with this quickly and would like some ?one-stop-shopping!? LOL Questions: 1) How long have you been sleeved? 2) Who was your surgeon? 3) What were your experiences with your surgeon? 4) Would you recommend your surgeon? 5) How much weight have you lost since your sleeve date? 6) What type of sleeve do you have? 7) Would you recommend the type of sleeve you have? 8) Do you find you still have the necessary level of energy to sustain a good workout? 9) Do you find it difficult to keep the weight off once you have lost it? 10) Do you have trouble eating, such as getting ?stuck?? 11) What is the one things about getting the surgery that you regret? 12) Would you do this surgery again, or would you have made another choice? THANKS TO ALL!!! POLL QUESTION: What is your hunger level NOW in comparison to Pre-Sleeve? I am between 96% hunger cured to 100% hunger cured. I am between 90% hunger cured to 95% hunger cured. I am between 80% hunger cured to 89% hunger cured. I am between 70% hunger cured to 79% hunger cured. I am between 50% hunger cured to 69% hunger cured. I am between 26% hunger cured to 49% hunger cured. I am between 1% hunger cured to 25% hunger cured. I am 0% hunger cured. -
Poll and Questions for those already Sleeved:
Gracey replied to LilMissDiva Irene's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
ThinOneDay - I too am thinking about revising from a LB. Would you please expand on why there are days you wouldn't have gotten the sleeve surgery? I would really appreciate it! -G -
Have you purchased any goal clothing for after surgery?
Melixxa replied to Ylime's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I just did this last night! There were some t-shirt dresses that I loved at J Crew, but the colours I wanted only came in large, and I wear an extra large. My revision surgery is in early July, so I hope it was a safe gamble...fingers crossed that between my pre-op diet and a bit of post-surgery weight loss, I will fit into them before summer is over! -
for some it gets better, but for about 30%, it gets worse. I'm surprised your surgeon is recommending it, to be honest. He may be more comfortable doing that surgery - it's less complicated. But I don't really like his comment about how you can always revise to bypass. Yea, but... I had GERD before surgery. I didn't want to take the risk of it getting worse.
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Question For Those Who Revised To Different Procedure...
CherBee replied to MrsBerggren's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I had the band in 2005 and it sucked and now I am trying for the revision to the highly successful Gastric Sleeve. 2 weeks out from the procedure I just got a call from the WLC that my insurance denied the whole thing, removal of band and GS, until I get another psych eval and nutrition regiment for SIX MONTHS!!! I am pissed. I even had a sleep apnea test done as that is a new requirement if BMI is under 40, which mine barely is. And yes I have it zzzzzz... I am waiting to hear back from WLC about the possibility of having the band removed now, and the sleeve done in 6 months. AND insurance covering it. GRRRR... I look at that 6 months as time wasted when pounds could be dropping. I am 63 and getting older by the second!! -
Considering cancelling surgery
FluffyChix replied to erika702's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
You will regain. But in my honest opinion, if you aren't 100% on board mentally? I wouldn't do it. Cuz in the end, I think it's the people who are do-or-die that keep it off without regain. And this is a golden shot. The surgery is the best it will ever be (effective) the first time around. Any revisions are much harder to lose weight with -- or so I hear. -
Weight loss expectations VSG to RNY??
Stella S replied to mi75's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
So it’s been a couple months are you going through with the revision? -
I'm fortunate, our insurance is going to cover the band removal (or if they can, it will be fixed, however they will not put in a new one as they do not cover revisions). I really like the surgeon we are working with. I lost 60 pounds with the band and have gained back 30. However one of the greatest gifts that the band gave me was that it gave me the freedom to concentrate on other areas of my life. food and weight no longer took up so much of my life force. With the weight loss and the freedom from compulsive eating, I was liberated to spread my wings and soar. It has provided me with a beautiful new life. I'm married to my Beloved husband, I have a career that I LOVE, fantastic friends, and I really and truly like and love who I am. So now, this new me, will be able to help me recalibrate should the band be removed. I'm not going to descend into darkness again. There's way too much light in my life now. I plan on taking really good care of myself... and pray for divine assistance :sad_smile: And should I be able to keep my band, then I'll Celebrate that, too!
