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Low-carb ice cream for maintenance stage
Kooky1 posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am not truly planning out what to eat while in maintenance stage since I only had surgery yesterday, but a Facebook pal posted this and I wanted to share. http://www.halotop.com/flavors/ They have around 5 net carbs per serving because there are 9 grams of Fiber and 5 grams of sugar alcohol. Sent from my SM-G360T using the BariatricPal App -
Wow, everyone needs to take a chill pill. I don't know about most of you, but I became fat because I ate like a pig! Probably 4000 cal per day, not form the drink or two I had. It was the chicken wings, the burgers, the extremely large portions, etc, that caused me to gain weight. I had WSL because I could not control my eatiing! Now my portions are tiny, i concentrate on protein, and I have a drink every so often, but not nearly as much as before, ( just don't like it as much). I keep it below 12-1400 cal per day and the weight is just coming off. My doc said everything in moderation, including alcohol, although beer doesn't work. Everybody has their own path to follow, and for those of you who choose not to drink, I applaud you, but for those of us that choose to drink, enjoy and celebrate your new life style. I didn't have WSL to drink proein shakes the rest of my life!!
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Don't they eat a ton of crap and smoke like chimneys at AA meetings? You'd be better off having your glass of wine! . I think your surgeon needs to lighten up. If you were an alcoholic I doubt you'd be asking for permission at all.
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Unless you're drinking lots of wine each of those three times a year, I seriously doubt you need an AA meeting. I don't know what your surgeon was thinking when he said that, except that some surgeons are adamant about no alcohol, period. For all either of us know, he had a patient (or more than one) who developed alcohol problems after surgery. I also know at two months out (I was seven weeks yesterday), what messes with our collective heads is that we are still getting used to our new normal. Portions are still so tiny that one-item meals are still the rule rather than the exception, and we're still riding with our training wheels, so to speak. There is a real thirst to know what three-six-nine months out is going to look like, in purely practical terms. Refrain from asking your surgeon about wine again. You'll only get the same answer.
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Leading up to my death?
melyssafaye replied to 1cutiejulie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My best friend died about 7 moths after RNY. It still isn't clear the exact cause but I believe that it was partly due to alcohol and drugs. She moved out of state right before surgery so I wasn't there all the time, but prior to surgery she had some serious alcohol issues that she was in denial about and also used a lot of recreational drugs. Before she died, she was having trouble regulating her blood sugar due to drinking so much at night. I still miss her all the time. When I went into surgery, it was on my mind but I just figured that if it was time to punch my card, dying while under anesthesia wouldn't be a bad way to go, all things considered. I could think of a lot worse scenarios. I trusted my team and told those I love that I loved them and reassured them that I was in good hands. I have made a firm commitment to do everything my surgeon tells me to do, even when I think I know better or when it's hard. I selected him because I believed he was the best and getting out of my own way and doing the work is what will make all the difference. -
Digestion/gastrointestinal issues
Renkoss replied to Renkoss's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I definitely know all about the "sorbie squirts"! I can't do any sugar alcohol. I get severe abdominal pain, severe intestinal pain, and spend the better part of day or night in the bathroom. It's horrible. I avoid it like the plague! -
LOL! For those relatively new to this site, every thread here about alcohol turns into a pissing contest. And this thread is well on its way to the same destination. Carry on ....
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Wow. Enjoy life. Lose weight. Love alcohol Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Correct no alcohol has to deal with common sense snd intelligence which is obviously lacking here . A severe debilitating injury was the cause of my weight gain.
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For me alcohol was never a trigger nor was it the reason for my obesity. I had 1 drink a week before WLS and intend with my surgeons approval to continue that. I can't count how many times in my life I heard the expression "everything in moderation". It's something I believe but was never capable of. My 1 scoop of ice cream always managed to become 3 scoops with 400 calories worth of toppings. WLS has forced me to change the way I live my life and I couldn't be happier about it.
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@@con con So by your own admission alcohol had nothing to do with your weight regain before? You chose to abstain. That's awesome. Some choose not to and embibe in moderation. That's awesome, too. What works for you isn't exactly what works for everyone else. You do you.
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I'm sure my response will not be received well but here we go. I lost 175lb on weightwatchers back in 2006 kept it off for 8 years. Totally changed my lifestyle eating and had a complete cessation of alcohol. I sustained an injury where I was non-weight bearing, not working for 8 months and although I still was on weightwatchers I gained 80lb being stuck at home. I decided to go in the direction of the sleeve I've almost lost 100lb in 7 months but I refuse to fall back into complacency. In my personal opinion anyone that makes the decision to drink after this surgery is setting the pattern for failure. Why on earth would you fuel your body with non-nutritional riddled with sugar liquids? And in my personal experience the sleeve is so much easier to lose weight than weight watchers was. Did I experience uncomfortable situations after the sleeve ? Yes but I was considerably more accountable doing it all on my own with weight watchers. It's all about priorities and honesty.
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I'm 1 year 2 months since my surgery and have not really thought much about drinking. The only time it comes up for me is at special occasions, holidays, etc. I usually substitute something non-alcoholic and once the event passes, no one thinks about whether I had a glass of wine or a beer or anything. I'm not opposed to drinking, but it doesn't really come up very much. And the few times where drinking would be appropriate, there are usually substitutes.
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I will offer an observation: I am startled by the bariatric surgeon who OK'ed alcohol at 5 weeks post-op. That's seems just weird to me. At that point the stomach is still healing and very much swollen. (Just notice how little you can eat at that point.) That would not have been my surgeon's Rx or that of most surgeons I've seen cited here. I also agree with the concept that your WLS honeymoon period (first 6-12 months post-op, depending on how your body responds to WLS) is when you should try to (1) maximize your weight loss (you will NEVER lose this fast again in your life) and (2) be building healthy go-to habits to follow the rest of your life. I also agree that late weight-loss phases and early maintenance phases are the better times to start testing the waters of sweets, starches and alcohol. That's my personal opinion based on my own experience and those of many other WLS patients I've come to know.
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I would def say test your new limits at home first before going out in public. I feel the alcohol almost instantly now. I only drink socially and I am a hermit so I don't drink too often
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@@KristenLe - I am with you. It is not my style to yell (well I did have at least one rant that I had to apologize for). I was just trying to explain the style difference. But as far as the alcohol thing, I am all in favor of adults making their own calls (see: http://www.bariatricpal.com/page/articles.html/_/healthy-living/bariatric-realities-%E2%80%93-medical-professionals%E2%80%99-guidelines-about-alcohol-use-wls-r601). There is great danger in the "absolute shall not" and nothing good comes from it.
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Article about Biggest Loser Ali Vincent
gowalking replied to sharkgirl's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
What this article tells me is that food addicts 'fall off the wagon' a whole lot more than those who are addicted to alcohol or drugs, or just about anything else. I also think the reason is that you can live without booze..without drugs, without just about everything that's bad for you. You can't live without food though. It's everywhere and the temptation can be overwhelming whether we are walking into a restaurant or a grocery store, or even watching those endless food commercials on TV. I know that the medical community does not see food as as addiction but I don't care what anyone thinks. I know that my brain lights up like a pinball machine when I see food. I also know that I react differently when I eat than when someone who is not a food addict acts. I still live to eat...but just not in a detrimental way. I love food, I love how it tastes, and I love everything about it. Which is why I have to be mindful all the time. ALL THE TIME. I'm three years out from WLS and I'd be lying if I said I got this. Because I don't. Every day I make choices to eat healthy and volume appropriate. Most days I do, but some days I do not. The band helps. It helps alot. But I can eat around the band if I so choose. I can self sabotage if I so choose. I can get fat again in a heartbeat if I am not careful. Whether this woman uses WW or WLS or hypnosis, or voodoo...it's still going to be a struggle and I do not judge, nor do I feel anything but sympathy and empathy for her.- 14 replies
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Feeling lost without food for comfort
Kindle replied to Megall9's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Two years postop and sinking farther and farther into the darkness of depression, I finally sought the help of a therapist. A lot of shit happened in those two years and without food and alcohol to comfort me, I finally hit the wall. Everyone has given very good non-food suggestions on how to deal with stress. Find what works for you, but if you are find yourself struggling, don't hesitate to seek professional help. I know it literally saved my life. Good luck with everything. -
i think you should definitely drink, and eat cake and candy and french fries, heck just give in before you even start, alcohol is all sugar , very high in calories, hits you 7 times harder than it used to, and you have an incredibly higher chance of becoming an alcoholic as well. All in all, those are great reasons to just fail. Why bother dieting, come on, just eat a cake or two, i mean you dont really have to change your life, just diet for a little while then go back and eat like you used to. No one ever fails at this. Drink up ! enjoy!
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Estimated post-op weight loss chart
pr_pitbullgrl replied to Talaria's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
it doesn't match up for me. i lost 72lbs and i had my surgery oct 2015 so about 7 months ago. My starting weight was 232. 229 on day of surgery. I'm 160 now. but i work out 3 to 5 days a week and i don't eat carbs or sugar or alcohol or caffeine for the most part and i've been doing that since about month 2 from surgery. -
Leading up to my death?
CowgirlJane replied to 1cutiejulie's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
the death rate is very low, but it is normal to be scared. I wrote letters to my kids and made sure my basic affairs were in order. I don't personally know anyone who has died from WLS. I do have two relatives who died from obesity caused heart failure. My niece was 40 and my sister in law was 64 - they both dropped dead instantly; both were very heavy. I also know someone who died too young several years post gastri bypass. She was a diabetic and became an alcoholic / drug abuser. She died in her sleep - not from WLS, but from her addictions combined with the diabetes. I don't think anybody was trying to be flippant.... people just get brief in answering questions. -
"Snacking" on pre op diet
Lizardlady replied to Lizardlady's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yeah, I know my eating habits have completely screwed me lol. I guess that's why I'm in the situation I'm in now. I haven't had as much water today as I usually do. I guess I haven't felt as thirsty as I usually do probably due to the Jello and such moist food. I am drinking water now though so maybe it will pass. My surgeon gave me a book that has the diet I'm supposed to follow. No alcoholic or carbonated drinks, no caffeine or sugary drinks, lots of water and 1-2 Protein Drinks a day. It doesn't say any limit on calories or anything like that but I was assuming that I shouldn't be eating like a fiend either before a surgery that is supposed to help me lose weight lol. Also, I was under the impression that snacking is not a good thing? -
Nahhhh... Unless you are planning on drinking directly from the ocean, you should be fine. I was. Take your favorite insulated Water bottle, fill it with ice and the non alcoholic beverage of your choice and sip sip sip. If you must, set your timer to remind you to take a drink every five minutes. I actually think there is an app for that. For realz...
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Conflicting Information From Doctors/Patients And My Fears
bikrchk replied to Hey Man's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
For me, portion control is exactly what I wanted and what I got with my sleeve. I tend to explain it to others in terms of, "my OFF-switch was broken and I got it fixed." I'm 2.5 years out and eat pretty much what I like when I want it, protein first. I've maintained about a 90 pound loss since month 9. After about the first 9 months there wasn't much that didn't agree as long as I maintain small portions. Rice is one of the things that 'gets me' occasionally but I don't really consider it a loss. Spicy food doesn't bother. I don't drink with meals and don't miss it. I drink alcohol. Not to excess but a few times per week. I THOUGHT I was okay with carbonation. Went back to diet soda after year or so. Drank it for 6 months in moderation until I realized was killing my stomach. Reflux returned and kind of burning (ulcers?). I was already taking 40mg of omeprazole 2xday. So I stopped the daily soda. Felt MUCH BETTER within about a week. Not that big a loss. Bai coconut drink makes a fine sub. You learn not to crave what makes you sick. -
I like Quest and Oh Yeah One bars (the "One" in Oh Yeah One means one gram of sugar - that's the one you want since the other Oh Yeah versions have a lot more sugar) I don't know if sugar alcohols make people dump (I'm not a dumper at all..), but I know they bother some people's stomachs.
