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Hey all, Not to sound nasty or TMI, but I have a serious question and wonder if you guys can help. I don't seem to be going to the bathroom enough... I'm not constipated per say, but it seems to me that it would be a lot healthier if I went more often. Before surgery, I didn't go to the bathroom terribly often.. maybe once a day or every other day... but now it's seemed to stretch out even more. I try to eat more Fiber, but I'm wondering if there are any supplements or anything else that would be recommended. I'm losing steadily, and I'm wondering if my digestive tract was functioning better if this would be a boost to my weight loss and over all health. Any suggestions or thoughts would be much appreciated! :smile2:
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Morning all, Congrats on the new car Ash! That's exciting. Tina I think I do have restriction. I get full after a few bites, and bread deffently sticks!! No more of that! And after 1 day of eating, I am up 5 POUNDS, back at 223? What the heck? I guess my choices were not to smart or something?? I haven't gone potty yet tho (TMI) so that could just be my food sitting but sheesh!! my period is due too, I dunno!! we will see, I may have to go back to liquids...I got kinda addicted to them, because the scale was moving...lord I would be the one who ends up with an eating disorder. LOL.
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PLATEAU!!! How many of hit a plateau at approximately 1 year out?
jr64044 replied to ShelleyB's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Ok now I am officially confused. I went over a week ago and got a fill. I only had him do .25 cc's because I was afraid to be too tight. I did fine for about 4 days and actually lost 4 lbs. but now everything gets stuck. I can get down oatmeal..or wheat thins if I chew them to mush. Otherwsie its coming right back up. Last night I took one bite of a turkey brat, with no bun and the bite was TINY. It instantly got stuck and I was dry heaving for an hour. And it wasn't just "BP-ing" I literally threw the food up, stomach acid and all (sorry tmi) So I haven't eaten much in the last 2-3 days and I weighted myself this morning and NADA! It still hasn't budged. How is that possible? I know if you don't eat enough calories you will not lose but I thought that was over time. I just don't get it. I'm miserable and I'm still not losing. I don't know if its stress related or whatever reasons behind it all of a sudden getting tight but I don't feel stressed out-and I'm not a person whos terribly prone to stress. So I don't really know what to do but I am back at this awful place that I was at about 4 mos ago. My band is so unpredictable and touchy I am terrified of eating with other people or to go out to eat bc I literally have no idea what its going to do. That is not a normal way to live and I can't keep throwing up. I'm so confused :smile2: -
Bonjour! Well, it's Sunday. Off to the hospital tomorrow. I have to be there for 3.30pm, even though the operation isn't until Tuesday morning. I get a 'light supper' about 5 pm, then apparently I'm to have a shower and wash my hair with some antibacterial jollop that smells like drain cleaner! and again in the morning. The instructions are very precise on how and where to wash - makes particular mention of your bellybutton and between your bumcheeks :scared0: Hope they don't come and inspect!!! The hospitals here are very hot on preventing MRSA (do you have that in US?) by scrubbing everything and everyone to within an inch of their lives. Which is a good thing. I took the dogs up around our fields this morning - the sun is shining, birds were singing fit to bust. :thumbup1: I collected the eggs, did a bit of weeding in the veg patch and planted some more salad crops. Couldn't help wondering when I will do that next - not too long, I hope! Spent ages in the bathroom, used all my body scrubs and delicious shower gels (had already got rid of the 'lady garden' (TMI, I know :thumbup:)... Buffed my finger and toenails, did the cuticles... I'm scrubbed, smoothed, trimmed and fragrant as can be. It is all about displacement activity and that pretence of being in control again!! Tomorrow is my last blog entry before I'm a fully-fledged sleever! Can't believe it.. Will load some more radio programmes onto my iPod today - I have Book at Bedtime, Play for Today, the News Quiz and The Archers Omnibus x 2 and Desert Island Discs (All from Radio 4 and 7 - the Brits on here will recognise the progs!). French TV is so rubbish, it isn't worth me paying the equivalent of 10 dollars a day for my own TV.
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Am I insane? Alone? Insane AND alone??
Robbiehage replied to pcindy's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was conflicted before I had surgery, I am SOOO happy now. At 12 weeks out tonight we had a special dinner for my son, I had 1/4 cup of brown rice and about 6 oz of strip steak, and a few bites of green beans, A little later I had about a 1/4 cup of oreo ice cream. I was totally comfortable. Now I NEVER eat like this but I am getting ready to start my period (TMI) and it was a special time for my son, the point is I can eat normal foods (just MUCH less) and I can do it comfortably and I am completely satiated afterward because I am full. I highly recommend the sleeve, I can not imagine that you will not be thrilled too. Best wishes to you! -
Morning! Good luck Suzie. I will be thinking about you! Terri, woohoo! A surgery date. Keep us posted. Hi Jennifer! Tracy, is it hot enough for you yet? Wowzers! Cindy, what happened at summer school yesterday to make it suck? I hope things are better today... I miss Kat too!! Isn't she due back in a day or so? Michelle, how was the farmer's market? Zach is feeling much better today, thank goodness. I believe it was a stomach bug because it traveled from one end to the other (sorry...TMI). Today my stomach feels a little off so I am really hoping this isn't something we are going to pass around. Have a good day!! Angela
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Any women take blood thinning shots after surgery?
LaurenT626 posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Attn: Possible TMI I am 2 days post op and not feeling too bad. I started lovenox shots yesterday and Im so nervous about taking these. Just want to hear your experience with the shots..any side effects? Also how did it affect your menstrual cycle? I will be on these for a month. Thanks!!! -
Lucky #7 are still going strong !!!
cramerk replied to IndioGirl55's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Ah Denise, I'm so sorry! I know I am feeling overwhelmed right now with caring for my furries with everything else, but i also know life would be hard without them. Candice, I have never read the Rainbow road, I loved it. I'm going to send it to my DD#1 who had to put her kitty down in February. Yeah I'm busy, but I ran out of potting soil, so I won't be planting tonight. Plus it is down pouring and is suppose to be all day. I usually continue to work in the rain, but tonight I think I will pass and I need to do furry nails and laundry. Ah Miss Molly is snuggly this morning, can I just stay home and snuggle? OOHH, I splurged and bought some OPI dark red fingernail pollish, in my case toe nail polish. I don't slow down long enough for fingernail polish to dry, but I have to paint my toe nails so I can wear sandles in the summer. My toes get so grungy after working in the nursery that I can't get my nails really clean, I know TMI, so I paint them to hide the ground in dirt. I never have used red before. Maybe tonight I will have time for toe nails. Phyl, GO GET THE DOG!!! AND WHY CAN'T YOUR DRIVE!!! You talked about driving before? Call a taxi, even in Missoula we have taxies. Well my time is up, keep up the good work, Phyl don't you go back to the doc today to check out your band? Swing by and get the dog! If Earl has a need for a 'honey do' list, send him to my place!! Love you all, you all are doing great!!! TTFN -
Is constipation a problem for anyone else?
Sweet replied to ningha's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
O.M.G. I am 6 days post-op and I had the worst constipation last night. I think that pain and discomfort was worse then everything else combined. Personally, I have never experienced severe constipation before so this was an alien feeling for me. But I just wanted to be taken out of my misery! I added some Miralax to my Gatorade and I used a suppository and finally got that sucker out Sorry if thats TMI. But even after I got through it, I think my body was in shock and I didn't sleep all night from cramping. Ugh. I just want to feel like myself again!! -
First let me say a thank you to those of you who sent me messages to check up on me, or let me know you missed my blogging, etc... I've been quite the busy lil' bee lately and being online has only been for work and the occassional facebook check in lol. All of that being said, let's see it's been about a month since my last log in.. not even sure about my last blog. But the 4th of June I had another fill....I think this puts me at 7.75 in a 14 cc band. And wow can I feel the difference. Even getting samples at costco is too much for me right now. My last two fills have had me experience sliming, pb'ing and last night for the first time...vomiting, well I think it was vomiting, I get confused on what you guys call PB'ing. Either way, It may be TMI but I ate a few chunks of fruit, (pineapple, cantaloupe, watermelon, etc..) by the time I got to the 4th chunk I had to excuse myself.. as I sat in the bathroom sliming....suddenly in one fell swoop up came the last chunk of fruit I had, not gross, but just as if I had chewed it and spit it out. Then I INSTANTLY felt better and went back to eating. I think I didn't chew enough, or my band just doesn't like honeydew lol. Anyways...my weightloss had seemed to slow prior to this last fill. When I went in I had lost 2lbs. Which is still great considering what my diet had consisted of... Not that it's an excuse but I've been working excessive hours like 9am to 3am and moving. My house/houses were boxed up for about 3 weeks and for some reason the movers boxed up the kitchen first. So the combination of all of that had me back in my old lover's arms, basking in the light of his golden arches. Darn you Ronald...DARN YOU!! I said I would never call again... but you got me. But I'll get away this time lol... So after almost a month of fast food almost EVERY night.. I still lost. *Sigh* when I think of how much MORE I could have lost if I had been on plan! I'm back to a white out (no flour, sugar, salt, rice) and putting protien shakes into heavy rotation while eating very small portions. Like last night I had 1/2 of a fish fillet (the fish not the sandwich lol) and some veggies. I wasn't hungry at all, but I hadn't eaten since 2 or 3pm so I figured I should eat something. I have an appoint on Friday, supposed to be a fill appointment, I REALLY don't think I need any more liquid in there than I have right now.. maybe .25 to put it to 8 and tighten me up through my PMS phase which is due to come. I can't be the only one who's band does not seem to be a match for mother nature during that time. I swear it's almost like my jaws come unhinged and I want to put everything in sight in my mouth, the sweeter and carby-er the better lol.. yes I know carbyer isn't a word but you know what? It's MY blog lol Ok so where does that leave me.. been a good girl for the most part since my fill.. really didn't have a choice.. Came up with a new smoothy recipe that is AMAZING.. I mean AMAZING!!! Speaking of amazing...I experienced this tres leche cake at a local spot here that is AMAZING.. I mean toe-curling, grab the edge of the table and look at the plate like it just did some dirty things to you, kind of amazing!!! I've made this my once a month treat. Tres Leche cake, with coconut milk ice cream, topped with toasted coconut and pineapple tidbits and this rum sauce.. OMG this rum sauce.. AMAZING! I mean A-FREAKING-MAZING! Like I had to stop eating it before there was a When Harry Met Sally kinda scene in there.. luckily I was sharing it with someone else so it didn't go to waste. I'm going hardcore from now on... this friday is my 6 months post op and although I've lost, I'm not happy with my progress because I *KNOW* I could have done WAYYYYYYYYYY better. I've been so busy putting other things first and not focusing on me and my workout time, etc... So going hard core, come my 1 yr anniversary ya'll are gonna be congratulating me on 100lbs gone. Probably more.. Epic moments so far: My shirt size and pant size now being the same, or close to (depending on the shirt lol) For the first time since I was a teenager I fit into an 20 shirt which to me is a HUGE deal.. I mean HUGE! Then when I fit into an 18 I was ecstatically happy! So 18 shirt down from a tight 32 (at my highest). Able to wear an x-large t-shirt and not have to special order a shirt for me for all of the various events I do. It feels SO good! I'm teetering on the 18/20 size range, depending on the cut of the item. I bought a pair of capris from LB that were a 20, only because the 18 fell right on my Lapband scar which was uncomfortable. I'm now at the point where I understand WHY people get lipo and other surgeries, although I DO NOT have saggy skin, I see my body changing and getting tighter in some areas, where I start to think... "Hmmmm if I just had this sucked out... I'd be GOOD" lol but I KNOW it's a challenge and I am determined to do this the right way, without any cheats or surgery. So thankful to have friends who are helping me along the way, a seamstress friend to help with clothes, an esthetician friend who brings me all sorts of firming and rejuvenating creams, that seem to work. Bodybuilding/exercise guru/expert friends to help with diet and workouts. I have it set, I just need to take action which is what I am doing now. Ok so I think that about covers it, my schedule is freeing up no so I'll have some more time to be back on here and check in with everyone. Please do give me the recaps of your progress! Hope you're all doing amazingly well!!!
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Is there anything you just CANT eat after lap band?
illuminationlady replied to spoiltmom's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Productive Burp...when the food comes back up...not vomiting...just regurgitating the food that becomes lodged. Usually a lot of slime comes with it...I know ...TMI -
I'll apologize in advance. Since a couple days post surgery, whenever I burp, it is absolutely the worst funk you can imagine. I can taste it in my mouth and it permeates my surrounding area. It remains on my breath for 10 minutes or so. Ugh. Is there a reason for this? I've NEVER had this problem before.
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Did my tiny stomach growl or was that my imagination???
texaschick replied to 4me-and-my-girls's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My tiny tummy has been very vocal! I had surgery on 6/8 and it started rumbling the next day. I tried protein shakes today for the first time and they went right through me (TMI). I am sorta hungry, but not overwhelmingly so. -
I got up this morning and stepped on the scale as I do every morning. I weighed 235.6 which is six tenths of a pound from my next major goal of losing 50 pounds! Still have a bit to go. No worries. I continued to get ready and as part of that went to the bathroom. Without TMI, a lightbulb went off above my head and I weighed again. 235.2! Only 2 tenths away from my next goal! I almost wanted to cut off a finger. Ha! But then I realized that whether my scale read 235.6, 235.2 or 235.0 this morning, I still look the same this morning. My true goal is to feel better and to look better. That .2 will come off and when it does I will be very excited! But no frustrations, because things are moving steadily in the RIGHT DIRECTION! And that is what is important. I hope you all have a WONDERFUL weekend!!
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oh my goodness! Milk is NOT my friend! i added a few ounces to my cream soup (which i'm not really allowed to have - the soup that is) and about 4 hours later, I was doubled over in pain!! :bored: gas cramps!!! (sorry for the TMI!!!)
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Tuesday morning weigh in and finely 1 more pound gone. And Charlene, You will be surprised at what size you are gonna end up. When I first got banded My secret goal was a size 10. I was so excited when I got there it made me really want to just get into a 9 just so I could say I was in single digits, and the other day when I went shopping my shorts and Capri's were a size 6. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think I would be buying a size 6. Of coarse my shirts were med. large and ex large just depended on the type of shirts I bought. Anything that buttons has to be an ex lg because of these boobs(TMI). Anyway I'll bet you surprise yourself at what size you end up.
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Wow how time flys. I can't beleive it is time for my first fill. The Lap- Band has been great so far. Way less pain than I thought. The Lap-Band is helping me to change my relationship with food. I was loosing weight. That only stopped b/c of my Breast lift/reduction. I had that surgery 5/27.I woke up 10 pounds hevier. People here have told me that is normal and usally goes awat after about 2 wks. I have los 6 pounds. This surgery has been sooo painful. I did not research this one as much as the Band, and there is not as much support as with the band. I am a mess phisycal and Emotional! The pain has left me wonderring if it was really worth it, and I am so lonley. My friends have not called and my family has not been there for me as they were in the past.I did not tell anyone what kind of sugery I was having. I really did not want everybody looking at my boobies the first time they saw me. You know this would happen. I told everyone about the Band. Not sure that was a good idea b/c they now watch evrything I eat and some make comments not realizing they are not helpful. I cry alot. I can't help but wonder why I did this to myself!(breast reduction not the Band) I was suppose to have surgery in Jan. But I was having other issues. Finally found out I needed my gallblater removed. Had that sugery 2/22 then I got approved for Lap Band way sooner than I expected so I canceled the B/R again. Had the Lap Band 4/29. Then fanally had the B/R-B/L on 5/27. It was way to soon to have another surgery but my authorization was about to expire, so I went for it. Today I am 12 days post op I am starting to feel myself again. I had a good wkend. I finaly got out of the house and saw some friends. We had a gret visit without talking about me and my surgeries. That was nice. I also started walking 30 mins. Boy does that help. Also this morning I started. Dah, I was PSMing last wk. No wonder I was having a pitty party. I was not paying attention to the date, otherwize I would have known I was being emotional b/c I PMS really bad the wk. before. Sorry, TMI I know but it explains alot. My poor Husband. I won't even go into what I put him through. Anyways I am still in pain and need meds however I have gone from 2 percocets(sp?)and a anti-anxiety med to just 2 vicodin every 6 hours. I am looking on the bright side. My cramps are keeping my mind of my sore breast lol BTW my fill is in 2 days. I have read so many horror stories that I am scarred. Od cource I have read a ton of storie that everything went well, but those are not the ones that stick in my mind!!
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September 2009 Band Date
Loveslady replied to ashleysara's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi, everyone Amanda if that works for you then its quite okay. I've been at 7.1 for quite sometime. I still feel like I can eat too much but I Do know that its a mental thing and when I listen to my body I'm not really hungry at all. I'm still at 223. Yeah, thats good but I'm hoping for a grand weight loss over the summer since I don't have to make plans around a work schedule. Hmarko only 20 pounds left. wow! I can't wait for that moment. Kurby I say enjoy your trip. I think you will be just fine because its not going to let you go but so far anyway. Ladies, I'm having a pain on my banded side. I don't know what it could be. It's there when I want and when I have sex if Im laying down. Sorry if TMI. Any suggestions. I'm all ears. -
This may sound like a stupid question, but usually when I go for my fill I wear pants. I've scheduled one this Tuesday, and I'm having a picture taken, for which I'm wearing a dress. (I do wear them to work a lot, but when I have a chance to walk on our track it's easier to wear pants. Maybe TMI, sorry.) I prefer having my doctor doing the fill as opposed to the nurse practitioner, whom I'm not crazy about . Anyway, my question is, does anyone find it awkward getting a fill wearing a dress and hose? I've been thinking about this today, and it really sounds silly asking, but there it is. Debbie
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This may be tmi - but every time I eat for about 30 minutes after I am just burping all the time. Beginning to get on my nerves as well as my husbands. Have tried slowing down and smaller bites but still the same. I am a month post-op and on normal food - albeit small amounts. Think the sleeve is fab - have lost 30lbs since my consult date in March, 23 of those since the surgery. Just want to know if the burping issue passes? Lyn x
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Hi everyone, Hope you are all losing and feeling great! My surgery is schedule for June 14th and I'm not excited nor am I nervous. I'm completely apathetic. What is wrong w/me? (That's NOT a rhetorical question).LOL! It's kind of like I'm wondering, is this REALLY going to work for me? Is it REALLY going to happen? I've lost 100 lbs on my own, TWICE! I know how to do it, I can't keep it off. Maybe it's because I know what lies ahead. My relationship w/food will change. It's been my friend and I'm anticipating the letting go part. Plus, I have PMS. Sorry, TMI I know. .just trying to keep it real! LOL! :Dancing_biggrin: I've been on the pre-op diet since the 31st. It's cake. . (not that kind). I have: 1 Protein drink for Breakfast, 1 Protein Bar for lunch, 1 lean cuisine type meal for lunch, another bar for a snack and dinner is a lean cuisine again. Yet. .I have cheated. Not badly. . but not goodly. LOL! Sigh. . so. . .seeing the Dr. for my pre op appt. tomorrow. Maybe some type of reality or excitement will kick in? Maybe I'll be rid of the horrid PMS! Thanks for listening guys. . ! SunD1
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Oh my goodness... grade me if you must. I will tell you that the idea of listing all the places we've lived sounds like a fun exercise. I haven't thought about many of them in quite some time. Born in Las Vegas, Nevada. Too young to form an opinion. Then I've lived in these places in this order: 1) Tulsa Oklahoma, I consider Tulsa my hometown and it was a very pretty place, rolling hills with very genuinely sweet people. 2) Petersburg Virginia, very closed community with an unreal sense of their own importance probably due to reading about themselves in the history books. Still stuck in the Civil War mentality. However I worked in Richmond and found those people to be much more open and everyone was extremely good to me. Very southern! 3) Sierra Vista Arizona, incredibly beautiful desert mountain scenery and a climate that totally agreed with me. I continue to love high desert as my favorite climate. 4) Norfolk Virginia, discrimination problems but lots of historical and interesting surroundings. 5) Sierra Vista Arizona, same as above. 6) Tulsa Oklahoma, returning was interesting. Politics had changed considerably making it a less fun place to live. 7) Chantilly Virginia, one of my favorite times of my life. Lots and lots of histoical things to see and do, lots of good continuing educational opportunities, lots of natural beauty. And everyone I met had an opinion and seemed intelligent. 8) Orlando Florida, God didn't mean for humans to live in a climate like Orlando's. The bugs and critters were interesting but no fun to live with. However I did have a bob cat that lived behind my house and it was a beauty. I became very involved in philanthropic endeavors which fortunately kept me mostly inside. 9) Montreal Canada, a totally awesome experience. Learned to snow ski and cross country ski and walked the hills of Montreal enjoying the beautiful British section of town. People were very high on themselves and low on English speakers for the most part. Silly politics. Incredible places to eat, drink and be merry. Fabulous views from my downtown apartment on the 18th floor of a high rise. 10) Orlando Florida, back again :-( 11) Colleyville Texas, neat little berg. Nice people, beautiful homes, but too noisy. 12) Haslet Texas, too far out, too quiet. A little too Nascar if you know what I mean. 13) Ft. Worth Texas, husband's hometown. Much like Tulsa in many ways. I'm ready to go whenever he says lets move on. Good Canasta group except for the women's extremist political views. TMI? That'll teach you not to get me started! Ha. Now tell me what it's like to live in the same place all your life. I honestly can't imagine going to the store and running into my 3rd grade teacher. Now I'm trying to decide where I'd like to live next. I have always loved the mountains. Have you ever heard of Cuchara Colorado? It's a tiny little berg that has the most amazing mountain vistas. But I'll probably just stay planted in Texas. Although the political climate is terrible and I would love to be in California or Colorado. Santa Fe would work too though. And I loved Canada and the Adirondack (misspelled?) mountains would be awesome.
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first stuck episode?
illuminationlady replied to trishfish's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
The longest "stuck" episode I've ever had was about 2 hours. Usually it only last about 15-30 min. I have been stuck before and excused myself to the bathroom, bent over the sink, PB'd, and returned to the table right away before but that's rare. Everyone has done a fine job of describing how it feels so I won't repeat the information but I usually "slime" a lot when I'm stuck too. I know, TMI, but it's a big part of the whole show! The best advice I can give you is to not drink anything, do not panic and know that it will pass. After being stuck you should do liquids for a day because you are swollen. Best wishes on your journey. -
So, last night I had sex for the first time since my surgery. I had a bit of an issue. I was very, very dry down there. I've never had that problem before. I am getting in all of my fluids... but I was wondering if anyone else had that issue? If so, did it get better or did you have to use lubricant?
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Judy 2 ducolaxes - will take care of the tmi issue - I had it last week - mines mostly from not enough fluids - I get enough fat - but if you are cutting way back on fats & liquids you are going to have problems - 1 week is way too long not to go #2 ;0) got get a laxitive.. WTG on your 10 lbs - Proud of you for doing the work !!! I agree get a little dog that's house broken - and over the puppy stage - they are great after that - with bear I had tons of sandel's chewed up.. Joyce - Angels pretty good usually goes potty before bed but sometime wakes me up at 4 to go - heck this morning I don't remember what I did - they usually all want out around 5 cuz that's my normal time of waking up.. I may have just put her on the floor so she could go out the doggie door.. Ya I like tattoo's but not when they are super visible - if I was 20 or 30 or 40 and could wear a bikini - I would have a tramp stamp (tattoo on the small of your back for those who don't know what a tramp stamp is) Wouldn't do my back - cuz if you are dressed up in an evening gown (well those chances are slim - but say a wedding dress for the younger one) it's going to show - of if you get one on your chest - in a low cut blouse it's going to show (like Jancie on the Soprano's) don't like that - but would get another one on my other ankle - small .. I agree about the dog issues too - cuz I it's a hassle to find a dog sitter - I need one for november and the lady I used before is already booked - and when the kids come in a couple of weeks - wanted to go over nite to the beach- but the animals.. Cheri - my mom had 4 - sis has 3 - I had 1 - 1 bro had 2 and other bro zip and we were foturnate not to have anything worse than som asmtha.. How do you play mafia??? Well left home about 2 - just got back 8:30 from being at bro michael's house - stepbro brad came after I had been there 3 hrs and helped then I took him out to eat at the taco shop - had menduo - was able to eat 1/2 small bowl which really is a large bowl.. I am filthy - need a shower - and something sweet (you know comfort food) Just so piss that my sis makes all this trouble - still haven't gotten the signature card back from her that she just fricking had to be on cking account - where is she when work needs to be done... NO WHERE - she did absolutely nothing for being a co-administrator and she will get just as much $$$ as me... I think I will write a letter to the judge myself.. Well I have tomorrow to get my shopping done and bills paid I'm off to the showers - cbl