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First, congratulations on your weight loss. It’s a fabulous achievement - please remember that. The hard truth is not everyone gets to their goal weight. Your goal weight is a number you chose for various reasons significant to you but your body has it’s own goal weight - its set point. This is the weight your body is happiest at. It is a weight that’s easiest to maintain & your body will keep pulling you back to. Your set point is what makes it hard to lose weight & easy to put back on any you did lose back. The surgery lowered your set point from what it was but you can’t control what the lower level will be. Be careful as you can increase your set point again by eating to excess & making poor food choices. Yes, increasing your physical activity & building muscle will increase your hunger. The trick is to balance the hunger with the calories your body needs. Check your basal metabolic rate to give you an idea if what calories your body may need to maintain. Seeking support from a therapist may help especially with your cravings & late night hunger. Many find therapy very beneficial to support their weight loss & manage their maintenance. Therapy will help you identify what’s behind your cravings & hunger & reflect on your relationship with food. Your surgeon or team should be able to refer you to a suitable therapist (one who specialises in disordered eating & is knowledgeable of bariatric surgery). All the best. PS - I found it helpful to get the ‘bad’ food out of my house. If it’s not there I can’t eat it. I know it’s not always possible especially if you have a family but even if you got rid of the your favourites would help. Try to pick a healthier option. Want sweet try some fruit. Want salty or crunchy try roasted fava beans or chick peas. Of course even ‘good’ food eaten to excess will lead to weight gain.
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I sure hope so. I read somewhere that it can take a few weeks to see weight loss in some cases cuz your body might need time to adjust. Btw do you think sipping something warm will help you feel better?
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What sort of "good problems" you had after WLS
Arabesque replied to omrhsn's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
That’s the way I looked at your original post @omrhsn. What problem, inconvenience, complication, annoyance, etc. do you have now but are still good because a factor in the problem is your weight loss. Yes, I have to get my rings resized which is an (expensive) annoyance but it’s because I lost weight which is good. Everyone has problems or annoyances which, in the big picture & in the real world, are minor & unimportant. My sister-in-law has large feet & has trouble finding shoes. It’s a problem that sadly has no good side for her. Many of us struggled to find clothing to fit us before because of our size & that was a doubly bad problem: no clothing & our weight. I thought it was meant to be a more light hearted fun thread like a chat with friends. I also saw it as an opportunity to see how others may have managed these situations, found solutions or just to know others are experiencing the same things. -
NOOOO!!! My poor face.
Arabesque replied to LindsayT's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
The oestrogen made my hot flushes & other menopausal symptoms go away @LindsayT. Unfortunately, they came back when my weight settled. I was on HRT but I still got (& get) the odd breakthrough symptom. But yes your body may be having trouble self regulating temperature. PS - A hot flush feels different than feeling hot or feeling the heat. It’s like a sudden wave of internal heat radiating out of your body & equally sudden sweating. Sometimes it was my whole body & sometimes just my face. -
Hi all! I’m 18 months post op from my VSG and I’m still 24 pounds out from my goal weight. My highest weight was 313 and surgery day I was 289. I’m currently 204. I was able to get down to 197 a few months ago but I have gained some back. I’m battling constant hunger. I have been strength training a lot the past 6 months, which at first I attributed to my increase in hunger, but the past 2 months it’s gotten out of control. I eat anywhere between 100-130 grams of protein a day. Drink 120 ounces of water a day. Take my vitamins. I just can’t shake this hunger, which in turn makes me have bad food choices, usually later at night. Has anyone else struggled with this at this point in their journey? And what advice do you have? I’m terrified of weight gain and desperately want to reach my goal!
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Plateau for too long
Not sure replied to Miimii_Roci274's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Agree with the others, 800 is very low. Have you calculated your basal metabolic rate? Example I’m 48 years old male with a basal metabolic rate of 75 calories per hour (changes slightly daily and as you lose weight). So the math for me is 24hrs X 75 = 1800 calories per day just to breathe and live any exercise would add on top of that, I power walk daily for 10km minimum and add about 700 additional calories burnt for 2500 calories burned per day. I currently consume about 2000/day and still losing weight. Talk to your nutritionist about your caloric intake and hopefully they can give you some insight. Best of luck. -
I got my sleeve the same day and I’ve had some significant pain, mainly in the large incision. At least you’re losing weight so that’s a plus! I’m only down 2lbs so far and I’ve decided to stop checking the scale cuz it’s getting depressing. Everyone is different and reacts to the surgery differently whether it’s physical or emotional, so don’t beat yourself up. I hope you feel better soon!
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Plateau for too long
learn2cook replied to Miimii_Roci274's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Like others have said 800 calories is not much. I have mostly gone into maintenance at almost 2 years and I’m at 800-1000 calories a day. But, I was a yo-yo dieter for years, AND I’m post menopausal. I still talk regularly with my dietitian and I suggest you do too. Good news, I recently dropped another five pounds due to rectifying my low iron count in the labs. The dietitian said that the body holds onto weight if it’s missing nutrients. I’ll still strongly suggest you talk with your team to figure out what is causing the halt. -
JUNE SURGERY BUDDIES
pamelacoa@yahoo.com replied to Mira88's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had a sleeve on 6/14. I’m struggling. I guess textbook I’m doing ok- no nausea or vomiting, drinking ok and getting around. But I’m just down. I had horrible pain the first two days but that’s gone. But my stomach just hurts if I don’t sip and hurts when I do. I’m bored out of work, but no motivation to go or do anything. I’m very weak and fatigued. I don’t seem to even have joy that I’m losing weight. Idk what’s wrong with me. -
Plateau for too long
Tomo replied to Miimii_Roci274's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm short, not young nor do I formally workout but if I ate 800 calories a day I would be dropping serious weight and I weigh 107 +/- 5 lbs and my maintenance calories is about 1450 to 1550 cal/day. So like others, I really think you should talk to your bariatric team to discuss why you already entered maintenence with so little calories and have a dietician check your food log. 800 calories a day is already extreme, and I think going down to 400 calories a day would be even more harmful to your body long-term. -
Ok.....I'm trying to RELOSE a lot of post-surgery weight. I lost 90 pounds from a SLEEVE in January 2019. A year later, I lost my mother. I spiraled like crazy. I only have 20 pounds still off, so trying again.....
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Thank you for your encouraging words and advice!!! Menopause is a nasty thing 👿 and it even has the word men in it, go figure!! Congratulations on doing great on your weight loss journey!
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When did you start drinking liquor post op ?
pintsizedmallrat replied to Cheesekitty7's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I waited about six months. I usually do spirits and some kind of non-carbonated mixer (unsweetened iced tea or sugar free lemonade/limeade work well). Be careful if you've lost a lot of weight, though...me at 245 could drink a LOT more than me at 95, so you definitely want to try it the first time when you're either at home or have a Designated Driver because I guarantee your tolerance will be much lower than you expect. I HAVE to limit myself to 1-2 servings (not "drinks", servings of alcohol, of which many cocktails contain more than one) or I get sloppy. I want to point out that I only drink once a month before someone pipes up to tell me I'm on a train with stops back in Fattown and Chubbyville again. Learning to indulge intelligently and moderaterly, in my opinion, is a key to long term success. -
Plateau for too long
catwoman7 replied to Miimii_Roci274's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I agree with the person above. Even at 800 cal/day people need to be under medical supervision (which technically we are the first few months after bariatric surgery). And five months is too long for a stall - you're in maintenance, whether intentional or not. How far are you from a normal BMI? The closer you get, the harder it is to lose weight, so that could be what's going on, too. Are you still tracking/logging your intake? -
I'm glad you're working on staying positive, @Metamul. I'm still waiting on my surgery date, but what @Arabesque said about not failing is something I've been hearing a lot. I have two friends who did the sleeve. One lost at a rapid rate from the beginning (he had more to lose) and the other was much slower. A year later they are both thrilled with their results, but if you would have told the slower "loser" that she'd lose 100 lbs I'm not sure she would have believed you. She's still losing, btw. Hang in there. You didn't gain 15, you didn't stay the same. You lost 15 lbs. Even with hypothyroid, I believe as your body heals and gets used to your new metabolism you'll do great. Please keep us posted. This is a good forum, the best I've found. You'll find reliable info here and people who are kind to provide feedback. 😊
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So I'm concerned, I'm 10 months post op, the first 5 and a half months I lost 70 pounds which is great but I have been the same weight for almost 5 months and I don't know if it's normal, I'm still supposed to lose another 20 pounds but I don't know if my surgery failed or what? My surgeon hasn't checked up on me since 3 months after the surgery. I've been on my own since then so I don't know, did I hit my limit? Am I not going to lose anymore weight? I've been consuming around 800 calories more or less every day now, but I'm considering to drop it to 400 to keep losing weight. Idk what to do I'm desperate, I supposedly have until August to reach my goal weight (the one set by the doctor) also I'm planning on getting tummy tuck and excess skin removal surgery and breast reduction on December but I need to reach my goal weight. What could I do, what do you recommend. Please help.
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NOOOO!!! My poor face.
Arabesque replied to LindsayT's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Once your hormonal flush evens out the acne should disappear so about when you lose the bulk of your weight. I’m almost 58 & I was complaining the other day about a big blind pimple on my chin. Waah! Can’t blame what I eat & can’t blame hormones anymore. Just life unfortunately. -
Bariatric surgery - long term
Arabesque replied to vpsdub's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Structures aren’t that common & not everyone has plastic surgery. I didn’t have a stricture & neither did my three friends (one also in her 50s, one in her 40s & one in her 20s) who had surgery. Only one of us has had plastic surgery - the younger one. She lost more weight than the rest of us. She had it because it was affecting the activity she wanted to do & she was having to buy larger size clothes simply because of the excess skin. They will do cardiac testing before your surgery but make sure you tell your team about your breathing difficulties especially after anaesthetic & maybe ask for some respiratory testing to be done as well. -
15lbs in about a month is fine @Metamul. You haven’t failed at all. Remember there is no right or wrong right of loss. You’ll lose at your own rate & at a rate that’s best for your body. Your rate of loss has nothing to do with whether you’ll lose your weight except it may take a little longer and that’s okay too. You’re doing great. You’re probably starting to recognise the difference between real hunger & head hunger. Yes, they do feel different. You tend to crave a specific food, texture or flavour with real hunger. I get restless as if something is wrong then I realise I’m hungry. And there is always a legitimate & logical reason I’m hungry - haven’t eaten for a while, missed a meal, didn’t eat much earlier in the day.
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Cravings am I over eating
CarolineLittle replied to Quetta89's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Are you tracking? It's the best tool and makes you accountable, allows you to see where you might need to make changes. Cravings are okay, you can often satisfy them in more healthy ways. I've been using Pinterest for inspiration. And remember that weight fluctuations are normal. -
When did you start drinking liquor post op ?
Danpaul replied to Cheesekitty7's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Two ppl I know who had WLS waited about a year to drink alcohol. I myself, never drank. Sad to say the beers and cocktails kept piling on over the course of the following year and before you know it one gained 22lbs the other 20lbs. That's only after one year of going back to alcohol. Like many they thought they could enjoy an occasional brewski. Sadly not the case. I have found through my group sessions this happens quite often. -
I’m going to be 50 in Oct. My surgery was almost a month ago now and I lost 15lbs starting from my week before surgery. I’m a little concerned about that. Thought I would have lost more by now. When I was younger, weight came off relatively quickly but I also have hypothyroidism and don’t seem to have a metabolism anymore lol. I’m starting to walk more now so I am giving myself some time before I really start to think I never should have done this. That I failed yet again. I am hungry but it’s a different hunger if that makes sense. I eat a few bites every couple of hours or so, vitamins and supplements as I should. Trying to stay positive and hydrated lol.
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yep. ive been gaining and losing the same 5-ish lbs for 4 years. like the others above, i always keep an eye on it. if i stay outside that range for too long (how long exactly depends on my mood, what im doing at the time - am i on vacation? am i sick? is it the holiday season? etc..), then i make conscious efforts to get back into my happy range. its said on here alot: its easier and less overwhelming to try lose 5-10lbs than to try to lose 50. With that said, sometimes we also have to weigh the desire to be a certain weight vs the willingness to put in efforts required to achieve and maintain it. I mean, sure weighing less than 115 lbs was a very accomplishing feeling for me (i was walking around like i was all that and a bag of chips) and i really liked how my body looked (but not my face, but thats a different story), BUT..i realized i was putting in waaaay more effort than i really wanted to. now (4.5+ yrs post) i put in just a small fraction of the effort and time and brain/thinking power i used to, in exchange for being at peace with staying under 125. i am much more relaxed, thats for sure. plus i still think i look pretty good, lol. I feel like i went off on a tangent there... Can people lose regain? Yes. Do u want to? That's up to you. Good Luck! ❤️
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Bariatric surgery - long term
vpsdub replied to vpsdub's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Thanks for your replies, very helpful, much appreciated! Here are my main concerns with surgery, just trying to achieve risk/benefit balance: 1) anesthesia - recently had minor dental surgery with local anesthesia (tooth extraction), for 3 days afterwards had more frequent than usual shortness of breath and chest tightness. Bariatric anesthesia will be much heavier - it would be good to hear from someone 60+ with pre-surgery cardio vascular issues 2) my friend post-surgery has to take loads of supplements and vitamins as necessary nutrients not absorbed properly after surgery causing fatigue. Also other surgeries might be needed - to fix stricture, excessive skin etc. It seems like a lot of risk taking into account my heart issues. Are supplements for life? Would prefer natural nutrients as any chemical/medication has side effects Another question - would appreciate views/experiences on non surgical ways. Tried diets - lost weight and gained back. Heard about microbiom changes, faecal transplanting - any experience of those? Thanks again -
Bariatric surgery - long term
Arabesque replied to vpsdub's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I had my sleeve four years ago at almost 54 so a little younger & also female. Also no diabetes or other co morbidities. I lost all my weight & more & have basically kept it off (apart from a slight hiccup with a medication absorption issue). My fluctuation weight initially was 48.5-49.5kg & is now about 49.5-50.1kgs - maybe my weight settling. I am careful with what & how much I eat. Which you would be already doing a lot with managing your diabetes. I mostly eat whole foods that are low or no processed. I’m not really active: just stretches & resistance bands - wouldn’t burn 30 calories. The changes I made to what & how I eat were sustainable & easy to manage. I don’t feel like I’m missing out or making sacrifices to maintain my weight. I also feel my choices aren’t negatively impacting how I want to live & enjoy my life. If the opposite was true & I felt I was missing out or couldn’t enjoy my life I would not be able to maintain & would have been gaining weight . But yes things do happen in life that throw a lot of that out the window: personal & professional stress, emotional traumas, health issues, etc. Our weight can resettle into its new set point (where it’s most happy) which is higher. Our initial way of eating may have been too restrictive & unsustainable to maintain a lower weight. Or we simply become a little complacent. I didn’t have any complications or issues post surgery but my tummy can be a bit fussy - quirky - & I have random episodes of the foamies for often unknown reasons. There are certain foods I can’t eat (like breads, pasta & rice sit heavily in my tummy) but it doesn’t bother me. There were foods I couldn’t tolerate before surgery or avoided because my tummy was always a bit fussy, had some sensitivities & to manage my reflux. So no big change really.
