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Hi, @FifiLux! Thanks for sharing with us! I was going to say something about July 4th being an easy date to remember, but then I saw your location is Europe, so you don't have the Independence Day association we Americans do. 🙂 Kudos on taking the initiative to give up alcohol before surgery! I know that can be such a big change because it's not just to your diet but to how you spend your down time or hang out with friends. But you got this! You'll be thankful you made that change now when there are so many other changes to make after surgery. Knee surgery is a huge why to keep at the forefront on this journey. Losing weight can unlock so many other health improvements. I'm surprised you have no pre-op guidelines from your provider. As some others have mentioned here, a big reason for a liquid diet is to shrink your liver to make it easier for the surgeon to access your stomach. I just heard a story from one of the co-hosts of the Our Sleeved Life podcast who said her surgeon took her liver out temporarily and that caused her more pain during recovery than her friend whose surgeon worked around her liver. So you might want to ask your surgeon if s/he will take your liver out and if it's possible to prevent that
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How long is a protein supplement needed
Jeanniebug replied to LindsayT's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Once you're able to get all your protein from solid food, you really need to stop with the supplements. It might be a few months before you're able to eat that much. As we lose weight, our protein requirements - like our calorie requirements - drop as well. My protein goal is 60 grams per day. -
Whenever we lose a lot of weight in a short period of time (15 pounds in 16 days), a substantial amount of the pounds lost is actually water weight. To lose a pound a fat a day, you would need to burn an additional 3500 calories above what you are consuming, which generally is only achieved consistently by peak athletes. If you are sticking to your program's plan, you are still losing fat pounds during a stall as your body regains the excess depleted fluid. Once your body reaches healthy fluid levels, your scales will start reflecting losses again. Please don't get discouraged. For most of us, weight loss is not a steady decline but achieved with periods of losses and stalls as our bodies adjust to the changes.
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Stalls do suck... I am almost a year out and am on a cycle of stall for a month, lose a few pounds, then stall another month and so on... But I am not gaining... so there's that.
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I feel old at 55 doing this. I went straight for the DS surgery because I want results and don’t want to go back for more weight loss surgeries (skin removal is a possibility). I definitely don’t want to do that again. I had complications after my surgery on the 14th. I was in the hospital an extra 3 days. I didn’t want to post and scare anyone but I’m a week out from surgery now and doing much better. I just need to figure out my eating/drinking schedule since they can’t be done within 30 minutes of each other. I am super excited for the results. From max weight before the pre-surgery diet to now, I’m down 25 pounds!!!
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Stalls are very common & you can have several of them while you are losing. When they occur & how long they last can be quite different though yes the first tends to occur around week three & the usually last 1-3 weeks. It’s the time your buddy uses to reset your digestive hormones & enzymes, metabolic rate, etc in response to your weight loss & new needs. Your stomach is a muscle that stretches & contracts but it will take years of overeating to stretch it out to where it doesn’t contract as effectively & is larger. As for portion sizes, it’s best to check with your dietician for their recommendations for your needs. Some people are given caloric goals as well as goals for all macros. I was only given protein & fluid goals & told 1/4 to 1/3 of a cup from purée slowly increasing to a cup by about 6 months (my goal weight). The majority of that portion should be protein. I was only eating a bare 900 calories at 6 months but many are advised to eat more than that from months 2 or 3. You’ll discover your own portion sizes too i.e. the portion your tummy will tolerate of specific foods at a sitting. Some foods sit more heavily in your tummy or take longer to digest & are more filling so you’ll eat less of them. Some are digested more quickly so unless you are aware of your portion it can be easy to eat more than you need.
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Regret’s not mentally ready.
Arabesque replied to Jenniferx4's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I’m sorry you are feeling this way. You are not alone in feeling emotional & having regrets. The surgery & weight loss stirs up your hormones & spin out your emotions. Plus you can’t eat, which is what you likely turned to whenever you were feeling emotional, stressed, etc. in the past. So many of us used food as a comfort & to soothe us. A lot of the hunger you are probably feeling is head hunger not real hunger. Hungry for emotional reasons, hungry out of habit (meal time, snack time, what you’re doing), hungry to eat because others are, etc. You may find a therapist helpful as you work through these early stages (because it does get better & easier). Many find the support of a therapist helpful as they work through the relationship with food, why they ate, habits around eating, etc. Please, please stick to your plan. There are about 12inches of sutures & stables holding your tummy together. The staged return to eating is to protect your tummy while it is healing, and ensure your recovery goes smoothly. I know you have eaten off plan already but you just may have been lucky so far. It’s only for a few weeks. You can do this. Look at your children & think about why you chose to have the surgery. -
I stalled at 6 months for about 9 weeks it was awful but i stuck to the program and the weight started to come off again. Just saw my surgeon and I am no longer in the obese category, overweight and I quote my Dr. "not by much" I need to lose about 25 more LBS. I know it will be much slower now but i am sticking with it. You will start to lose again don't give up!
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What sort of "good problems" you had after WLS
Arabesque replied to omrhsn's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I hear you about finding the right fit in bras @ms.sss. I actually asked about prosthetics for the upper breast today at a department store (David Jones actually - it’s about the only place that still do bra fittings). I had googled the other day without luck. But the answer was simply no they don’t. Prosthetics for after mastectomies, chicken fillets to boost the bust but nothing for empty upper breasts. Was told that many mothers who breast fed have the same problem so not just after weight loss. Sounds like a great business idea. But I claim percentage ownership if anyone here does it. Have you considered getting the bras tailored? I did that with a strapless bra years ago to tighten the band. (To get the cup to fit I had to go up in band size.) They also suggested I may have to do after my weight loss if I dropped down to an 8 band size - they don’t make them. But thankfully when my weight & remaining fat settled, the 10 was fine. -
I lost 16 lbs the first *month*, so you're losing it faster than I am, and we started out about the same weight. So many things affect your rate of weight loss, many of which you have no control over. If you stick to your clinic's plan, the weight will come off, whether fast or slow. I was a slow loser from the get-go, and I ended up two years later having lost 235 lbs (which was 100% of my excess weight). I gained about 20 lbs in year 3 (which is very common), but besides that, I've maintained my loss pretty well. Like you, I also lost a bunch of weight before surgery - and that's one of the factors that'll influence who quickly you lose it, at least during the first month or so. Most of the weight people lose the first month is water weight, and since you lost 49 lbs before surgery, that water weight was long gone by the time they rolled you into the operating room (same with me...). So don't worry - the weight WILL come off as long as you stick to your clinic's plan.
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I am 7 weeks post opt and have most restrictions removed with the exception of bread/ rice / beef/ pork. I’m worried about stretching my stomach. Around how much lean protein are you having per meal along with carb/veg? Anyone get weight loss stalls at this stage? I notice the scale has barely moved the last 10 days.
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I feel a ashamed of myself for so many reason’s! I got my Vsg on 06/16/2023 I totally regret it. Honestly I rather stay with my health issues and over weight. It’s to the point where I would pay whatever I can to reverse this if I could. i have been hungrier I have cheated on my post op I have had a few bites of different things. I have 5 kids who I cook/lunch/snack prep for and honestly it’s hard not to be around food. I don’t know what to do and I reached out to my nutritionist haven’t heard back from them. I’m going to see my doctor Friday. All I want to do Is cry! 😞 I had got approved for this operation 4 times I didn’t go through the first three times because I honestly wasn’t ready over theses last 8 years. This time around I think it was more of my doctors pressure on me because my health was getting a little worse with my breathing. I’m not saying I constantly want to eat but I want to be able to have a few bites at this point! Also drink water without it hurting 😨. I’m sorry!
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I recommend reframing your weight loss mindset. If you can't help but focus on the number, try to look at it as *total* weight lost, not just since surgery. Try to focus on *all* the progress you have made. It can help your morale when you are feeling impatient with yourself. And absolutely, hide that scale from yourself! The number is only one way to measure your progress. Is it easier to move, breathe? Do you have more stamina? How are your clothes fitting? Hang in there! 🤗
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The positive statements made make me feel I can do this. I am still just going through the qualifying and pre-op stage. I don't even have a date for the surgery yet. I AM trying to adapt my eating habits to what I will have to do during pre-op. I'm sort of practicing. No weight loss yet just up and down 5 pounds or so. I just bought my vitamins, and a few other things, so I'm getting serious. No, I AM serious! I'm committed to do this and make it work. Reading these comments shows me it isn't easy but it is worth the work. Thank you all.
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Only 15 pounds since my surgery date. The other 49 I lost in my pre op phase which started the beginning of the year. My dr requires you to loose weight. My goal was 21 but I really pushed myself to reach 49.
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I Am Not Really Seeing The Weight Loss I Was Expecting
Lipman replied to Hey Man's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I will add a little math to the equation here: You lost a bunch of weight pre-diet, of which, a very large portion of was water weight. Once you get past that, it can be broken down into a simple calories in - calories out (this is too simplified, but it will get the job done). I went to a website (https://www.garnethealth.org/news/basal-metabolic-rate-calculator) and made some random assumption as your gender/age/etc, and got a resting metabolic rate of just over 3100. Add on another 900 for activities during the day and you are at a nice round 4000 calories burned each day. If your intake is around 600 calories in, then you are at a 3400 calorie deficiency. A pound of fat is roughly 3600 calories, so everyday you should be losing 3400/3600 ~ .95 pounds. So just under a pound a day. That being said, water and other factors can make this fluctuate day to day. Also, all of these numbers are averages and vary from person to person. So if you are noticing less, then maybe your BMR is a little lower than 3100. I was at 307.6 the day of my surgery, and 285.1 3 weeks out or 22.5 pounds down. Since then, I have been consistenly loosing about .6 pounds per day. Not every day, but on average. Stick with the diet your doctor/nutritionist gave you and give it some time. It takes 12-18 months for all of that weight to come off. -
I was put on metformin, when I was diagnosed with diabetes, several years ago. It worked well. It improved my blood sugars. In addition to taking metformin, I started the keto diet. I lost 62 pounds in about 3 months. Of note, I started having hair loss. I don't know if it was the metformin, the diet, or the weight loss, but that's when I started losing my hair. I stayed on the metformin until the day of my surgery. The hair loss continued, even though I had stopped the keto diet and regained a bunch of weight.
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My surgeon did mention that I may be at my set weight point. I was 220 my freshman year in high school and was extremely active in sports and ate very well. So my surgeon said I should be very proud and happy with where I am. So I’m trying to remain positive as much as I can I’m just discouraged a little bit. I’m trying my best to stay on track. I work out everyday and have a very active job so that’s not an issue for me. It’s all about the hunger and not making the best choices sometimes. Thank you all for your input!
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Welcome! Like everyone else, we still have to diet and exercise to lose the weight. The surgery is just a tool that gives us a little extra help to be able to do that. At my initial consultation, my surgeon made it clear that I might not lose all the weight. He also told me that obesity is like cancer, it wants to come back. He said that if I do regain, then there are medications that can help. But, he did warn me that this is likely going to be a lifetime battle. So, you're in good company. A lot of people continue to struggle, after surgery.
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Hi all! My VSG is scheduled for July 20th. I can’t believe it is already less than a month away! I am excited and nervous. I’m a planner and in healthcare. So, when I started considering the surgery, I watched a ton of vlogs and read a lot of research articles. 😂 My good friend had the VSG a few years ago and answered all my questions. I’ve been more aware of what/when/how I’m eating and have lost weight since officially starting the process in March. I almost completely eliminated alcohol and caffeinate in March so it wouldn’t be too much all at one time. I think that has had the biggest impact on how I feel. Not that I’m an alcoholic, but I’m definitely a caffeinaholic! I sleep so much better because the changes I’ve made have reduced my GERD. I am excited for the changes to come! I find my clothes are loose and I have more energy too! I have 2 friends, my husband, my kids, my mom, and my sister as my support system. My job just knows I’m having surgery. They don’t know the details. I start my liquid diet on July 10 while I’m on vacation! I could have made it later, but I’m just ready to start my new life ASAP!
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November 2022 Surgery Buddies
NP_WIP replied to Crystal Leifheit's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I feel it helps to view this as a way of life and see how far along you have come. Some days I get obsessed with the scale, or if I'm following the plan to a T, or if my pants fit etc but I go back to my why, and feel like I'm learning what to do to keep going and keeping it off. I'm also working on not rewarding myself for loosing the weight or following the plan, but grasp an understanding that this is my new life (idk if it makes sense lol) and my new normal. -
yes it is tough - and I agree with everything Arabesque says. It's a struggle just to maintain my weight (eight years out). I try to eat fiber, healthy fats, and plenty of protein every day to try to keep from getting too hungry (all three are filling). I also keep sugar free popsicles, sugar free Jello, and raw vegetables around (and fruit, too - although that has more calories) so that there are "safer" things to eat if I can't control my hunger. But I know it's still a challenge.
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Yes don't beat yourself up, because I got on the scale 3rd day after surgery and I had gained a pound, believe you me it will come each day that go by you get stronger and stronger the pounds will start, baby you body is in shock like what happened. It's gonna happen. Negative thoughts bring negative things. Each day, get up, get out and get to moving.
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I like my clothes and am still holding on. I’ve lost weight before on diet so part of me still has that memory of giving stuff away only to buy bigger sizes again later when I regained my weight. But I know this will be different. I’m most looking forward to buying bras in a normal shop. I currently have to buy them online and they’re very expensive.
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Plateau for too long
Arabesque replied to Miimii_Roci274's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I agree with everyone. Do not reduce your calories. Everyone is supposed to slowly increase their calories as they progress until they reach a point of maintenance. I also suggest you get back in contact with your surgeon & dietician. Personally I think it’s terrible your surgeon or a colleague who does their follow-ups hasn’t seen you since month 3. (I saw my surgeon regularly to begin monthly then two monthly. From 6 months & my goal I had three monthly appointments with his colleague in their rooms. At three years I started 6 monthly appointments.) The other consideration is you may be at your body’s set point. Your goal weight is one you chose not what your body chose. Remember not everyone gets to their goal weight. The average weight loss for sleeve or bypass is about 65% of the weight they are to lose to put them in a healthier weight range. You have already exceeded the average which is fantastic. Also could you update your profile with details of your surgery weight, etc. It helps those of us who respond get a better idea of your situation & offer more appropriate advice & suggestions.
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