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So, there's always a lot of talk about retaining Water weight, but not a whole lot of solutions to that. Are there any out there? Is water retention only caused by either not drinking enough and/or consuming things that dehydrate you (caffeine, alcohol, sodium)? Is there an amount of caffeine, alcohol, and sodium that tips you over into likely water retention or is abstaining from these forever the real goal? I'm curious to hear other folks' experiences with water retention and how they finally got the fluids moving through their system better.
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3 1/2 years post Op
missjaded44 replied to ABTexas1984's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Wow! Congrats on your success. I feel the same regarding it being a jumpstart tool. In order to be successful you must embrace the healthier lifestyle choices holistically. If not, gains will happen again. I'm 3 years out and I've had 10- 15 pound fluctuations throughout that time due to alcohol and careless good choices. I maintained restriction of portion but made poor choices. As of today I'm almost 3 months sober. Drinking an average of 120 ounces of Water a day. I rarely drink anything but water. Although I do appreciate iced tea and coffee on occasion. Absolute NO carbonation ever!!!! I've maintained a very rigid stance on that since day one. I love to cook and have become quite the health nut chef these days. All from scratch. No canned, boxed or packaged prepared foods. Mostly Proteins, low-fat dairy and veggies. My body does not respond well to carbs. They are not my friend so I do my best to avoid them where possible. Except pizza, I simply REFUSE to give that up. I indulge in weekends occasionally. I do allow myself a cheat day on the weekends. I've found my body responds best to that otherwise I will go into starvation mode and stop losing and/or gaining muscle mass. Im naturally hyper and enjoy the outdoors a lot, especially summer. Additionally I get bored easily. ???????????? So I keep my body guessing with regards to workouts as long as I'm doing SOMETHING. Whether it's circuit training, strength training, dancing, jogging/walking, swimming, heavy housework, walking as opposed to driving somewhere, parking further away for the extra steps, opting for stairs as opposed to elevators or attempting (I say attempting because I'm horrible at sports) a game of baseball/basketball/football with my lil boy. HW: 237 LBS. CW: 142 LBS. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J320A using the BariatricPal App -
Alcohol post op:it's possible? When, how much?
JamieLogical replied to ZillyNa's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was cleared for alcohol at 3 months post-op. Some surgeons recommend never drinking alcohol again because of the risk of addiction transference. The rate of alcoholism among post-WLS patients is higher than the general population. One thing you should consider is that, while you physically CAN drink alcohol post-op, it will likely affect you differently than pre-op. For me, I get drunk VERY fast, on very little alcohol. And I also sober up extremely quickly. It's like the whole process is much quicker than it used to be. I have read some accounts from people who are post-op who can't get drunk at all. No matter how much they drink. That seems like something you should be very careful of! Alcohol has a lot of empty calories and if you feel you need to drink more to get a buzz, it may not be worth it. -
Alcohol post op:it's possible? When, how much?
ZillyNa replied to ZillyNa's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Where I live, the social evening life without alcohol is very difficult, but i have already adopted a fake gin tonic as aperitif; tonic Water, ice and slice of lime... Looks great and is good. -
Gained 10 pounds in 6 months
OutsideMatchInside replied to anthonyb's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
@@anthonyb It also depends on what you are eating. If you go from 1200 low carb calories to 1600-1800 carby calories, you are going to gain weight, just because your liver is going to be larger. Are you drinking alcohol? Did you exercise and stop? Are you going through a stressful time in your life? There are so many factors to weight gain. -
Alcohol post op:it's possible? When, how much?
VSGAnn2014 replied to ZillyNa's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
For some people, alcohol is problematic post-op or even a serious no-no. For others, it seems to be OK. @@Cape Crooner laid out the issues above pretty well, I think. In my case, I stopped drinking completely 2.5 months pre-op and didn't have a drink until 6 months post-op. During that time I also made many other changes in my life so I could build a new post-op lifestyle and maximize the odds that my new lifestyle changes would stick. I do have one alcoholic drink now most days (5 oz. of wine or 1.5 oz. of scotch). That's my limit and keeps me within the behavioral definition of a "female social drinker." Please know yourself and respect what your body and you can and cannot tolerate. And respect that to be successful long-term you'll have to change some things in your life. Your relationship with alcohol may (or may not) be one of those things. -
Alcohol post op:it's possible? When, how much?
Cape Crooner replied to ZillyNa's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I have endured many slings and arrows on this forum, so you can check out my posts if you'd like. Here's what I know: 1. The number one issue early on is preventing ulcers. The sleeve is fairly well healed after 6 weeks and that seems to be the earliest point any doctor suggests a return to alcohol consumption. 2. Transfer addition is the number 2 issue. I think it's very serious for people who were food addicts, not so much for people who became obese for other reasons. My test for addiction syndrome is to ask yourself the question: " ...after I start [eating/smoking/drinking] the thing I'm addicted too, do I almost mindlessly consume more?" If this is your mindset, you could be at risk for alcohol transfer addiction. 3. Alcohol has calories that can easily cause obesity along with the slider foods we tend to go to once we get drunk. My advice is to avoid high calorie (sugary) drinks, plan what you're gonna eat after you've had a few, and log it all so you can figure out why your Weightloss failed - if it happens down the road. Me, I started back slowly after week 7. I followed my guidelines above and since then, I've gone from 225 to 182 (8 lbs below goal). What you drink and eat matters greatly. You can easily consume thousand of calories in a few hours drinking sweet cocktails and washing down chips! Like everything, there is no free lunch... -
Alcohol post op:it's possible? When, how much?
ZillyNa posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hi guys. I would like to know if after sleeve we can drink wine or other alcoholic beverages. I think I will not eat and drink anything interesting for a long time after the surgery, but after some months can I think to go a party and have a drink for a toast? (e.g. Wedding, birthday, various celebration...) -
Weight Loss/Emotional Eating Books
Inner Surfer Girl replied to JosieJ's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
When food is Love by Geneen Roth (actually, anything by Geneen Roth) Eat it Up! by Connie Stapleton Overeater's Anonymous literature (OA.org) Alcoholic's Anonymous Big Book (replace alcohol and alcoholic with food and compulsive eater and it applies) Not food related, but very helpful: The One Life Solution by Dr. Henry Cloud Anything by Brene Brown The Language of Letting Go by Melody Beattie -
I'm getting re-banded next week- so excited. My band slipped and was removed 2yrs ago and I've gained 50lbs back. Ready for it to be back and the excess weight to go away! One major rule I broke last time was drinking soda and not waiting the specified times before and after drinking. As for the soda, I'm already thinking about what I could use to replace my beloved captain and Coke. So far I've only come up with using those crystal light packets and ordering Water and captain or vodka. Any suggestions? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Ha! I'm 70 years old. I walk and hike and move more and do a lot more housework and gardening than I used to do. And I do some yoga and stretching ("rolling around on the floor"). I do fidget more than I used to, and I think that counts, too. But I don't run and am not a gym rat in the least. My number one exercise rule is: "Don't hurt yourself!" I am newly retired (which means less work stress), but we've had a lot of family stress (death of an adult child, husband has cancer, hubby's father and my mother died) in the last year. And don't even ask about the pets! My food is "pretty clean" -- in that I eat around 100 grams daily of animal and plant Protein, and a lot of veggies, fruits, whole grains. I hardly ever eat fast food. Most days I have one alcoholic drink and one sugar treat unless my weight is above 135. I get in 64 ounces of liquids a day. FYI, I didn't eat like a bird when I was losing weight -- following my bariatric P.A.'s advice I averaged 800 cals/day the first 4 months, then 1,000 cals in months 5-6, then 1,200 cals in months 7-8. In all, I've lost 100 pounds, including 19 pounds pre-op. It took me 8 months to lose the last 15 pounds. I have NO IDEA why some people can maintain while eating more than others. And I have no idea if I'll always be able to eat like this and maintain this weight. I think you just have to find out what your body likes and then be willing to do that. I also think you should have the courage to try other combinations to see if they work better for you. I have learned a lot of things that helped me lose weight and maintain weight, including: * Eating protein and eating protein first works. * Eating healthy veggies works, too. * Sugar makes you crave more sugar. You may have to go cold turkey on sugar's ass. * Fast food isn't very satisfying in any way. * Eating slowly and chewing well helps. * Grazing is the road to perdition. * Healthy Snacks are excellent and aren't even close to the same thing as grazing. * Taking my meds and supplements every day works. * Weighing every morning works. Otherwise, I would wander off into the weeds. * Positive self-talk, keeping a positive attitude and cultivating a big sense of humor (and appreciating others' funny bones) help. * Seeing my therapist once a month helps. * Having a spouse who constantly says, "Great ass, babe!" is lovely. That's all I got for now. If I learn anything else, I'll mention it .
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Bariatric Realities – Medical Professionals’ Guidelines about Alcohol Use & WLS
chrystine replied to Connie Stapleton PhD's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Magazine
It's not worth it, it really isn't. I have read a lot about alcohol abuse after surgery. Our body's can't handle it and it goes through our system very quickly. We would need more to get the same affect. Why trade one addiction for another? Where I work a woman was fired after WLS because she became an alcoholic; she actually came to work under the influence. I am going to France and would love to sample some wine while I am there but it won't be worth it (I will have a dessert or two though...also a no-no but no DUI) -
Right? Imagine there were a surgery (say, a brain surgery) that could cure 75% of alcoholics and opiate addicts and it had a lower risk of complications than knee replacement. People would be singing the praises of that surgery, and people who needed it would be encouraged to get it. There wouldn't be a huge chorus of naysayers saying things like "why don't you just kick your addiction the natural way?" and "you just need to go to more AA meetings" and "you just need to work on will power and drinking less" or "my Aunt Mabel's hairdresser had that surgery and he died! Plus I know of one other person who had it, and she stopped using oxycontin but she looks kind of sickly. Why don't you just stop shooting up instead?" or "you can be healthy and be an alcoholic too! Health at any drinking rate is fine! Just try to cut back if you find you've been diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver. You don't need surgery, you only think you do because our society shames alcoholics and drug addicts!"
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Thanks, @ ... but admittedly, that menu was a little more than I normally eat, which is 1700 - 1800 cals/day with around 100 grams of Protein. Just be aware that I weigh every morning, measure everything and track my food in My Fitness Pal. I'm still maintaining right on the button -- 135 pounds. But if that were to change, I'd have to change my menus, too. The main thing to remember is that you have to find out what works for YOU. Please know I didn't eat ANY chocolate or drink ANY alcohol for at least 6 months post-op. Or for 2.5 months pre-op. I've added these and other treats back in very gradually and very carefully. Sometimes chocolate does get the better of me and I have to let it go for a while. In other words, I'm just trying now to live like a normal person who's perhaps a bit hyper-attentive to what she's doing. I'm trying to be "mindful" and care for myself better than I ever have before. Good luck to us both!
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I was told that we couldn't have any for three months. Since then I've had some wine and some beer, but I'm not much of a drinker. Most likely yes, you will never have a pint of beer again, only because it won't fit in you. You would probably be able to have a few sips before feeling full. nothing against the poster but I find it interesting how much people worry about alcohol. don't drink much so it's not a big deal for me but I find it interesting to see people worrying about not being able to have a beer again. I would think that loosing weight and becoming healthy is more important than some alcohol. I felt similar about not being able to binge at a buffet, but I keep telling myself that it's a small price to pay for loosing all the weight
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Has anyone started drinking alcohol yet? I know we are not supposed to. But I'm curious how everyone deals with social events. Is there a go to 'safe' recommended drink? Will I really never have a pint of beer again?? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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gained two pounds over the weekend LOL. being a very very bad girl. saturday night mother's day dinner with four course meal (see below) then alcohol alcohol alcohol! so this week it's all no sugar (not even fruit or high sugar veggies like corn or carrots!) no carbs, no alcohol and clean up my act! workout five times is the goal. 3x is the min. let's do this! need to get to 140!
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Sugar free ice cream?
Learningtolive replied to cat.jackson89's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Breyers SF ice cream made me poop myself, no lie. My nutritionists says it was likely due to sugar alcohols in it. So never again. -
I'm 9 months post op. I average 750-900 cal. a day, mostly lean protein and veggies. Weight loss has slowed but still losing 10-15 lbs a month. I am able to eat larger portions now but just because i CAN doesn't mean I SHOULD. I have begun dabbling in carbs, you know the simple ones that got us to this forum in the first place. My body clings to them like a drowning man to a rope. Any weight loss comes to a SCREECHING halt. I can even gain several pounds in a day. WTF!!! I have two things only on my no go list, carbonation and alcohol. I tried both once, and did NOT like the results for either. I look at it this way, I know there is poison ivy in the woods. As hard as I try to avoid it, sometimes it gets me. But if I start to itch, I know what to do about it. After a little while it goes away. Once in a blue moon though, I'll get naked and roll in a patch of it, and later ask myself if it was worth it... My NUT suggested 1-2 T. of grains per day AFTER I reach my goal as a way to slow weight loss(also switching to full fat dairy-milk and cheeses). Keep up your hard work, it pays off!
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I'm only 21 and the good thing is I don't drink-alcohol or sodas. My weakness are Pasta, rice and pizza. I'm just concerned how much food I'll even be allowed to eat by then I dont want to be filled with anxiety my entire trip not knowing what I eat. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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May 16th surgery buddies?.....Let's do this together!
harlem_femme replied to kmorri's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi all, I'm new to the group and also scheduled for 5/16. I'm in NYC and my surgeon is Dr. Roslin. He does not require much of a pre-op diet - only liquids the day before (as well as no alcohol or NSAIDS for 2 weeks prior). My insurance plan did not require a diet prior to surgery either. I am working with a naturopath separately, however, and she advised me to quit gluten, dairy, and soy. I'm slowly weaning myself off coffee and that's been hard! I'm definitely scared - I've never had any kind of major surgery. But I'm as ready to get this done as I'll ever be! -
Yummy, mixed it in my ninja bullet with some ice, tastes like a pina colada!!!! Minus the alcohol of course. Great for a nice warm May Day in the backyard Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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My rant for the night. Neighborhood Party tonight..Everyone is there. Except me. (kicking my teddy bear)lol I live in a small private subdivision. The neighborhood gets together for parties often. At the last party, A husband got uncomfortably friendly with me. A hello kiss and moving in too close. He demanded I have a shot with him. I avoided him for the night and chalked it up to alcohol. Now I have been taken off the guest list. Not a word or explanation. I am only speculating it was the situation at the last party...Who knows what other social faux pas I might have made. How did I become the bad guy here??? Damn it, We own our home.
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Yes, you can drink all your weight back on -- Mountain Dew, sweet tea, high-calorie coffee drinks, sweetened alcoholic drinks, beer, etc. No liquids challenge your sleeve's restriction at all. This is why WLS practices encourage patients NOT to drink their calories. Yes, you can eat all your weight back on -- chips, Cookies, crackers, ice cream, etc. Those foods don't challenge your sleeve's restriction at all. This is why WLS practices encourage patients NOT to eat slider foods. Yes, you can lounge all your weight back on -- not move, exercise, or be active. This is why WLS practices encourage patients to become more active and regular exercisers post-op. And yes, you can simply eat too much (even a little too much) of "healthy food." Over time, those extra calories will turn into pounds and inches, just as they always did before.
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Miss my friend/enemy the lap band...should I do the sleeve?
VSGAnn2014 replied to Smiley Face Girl's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It's impossible to compare two individuals' acid reflux across the Internet. But I also had acid reflux pre-sleeve. I was prescribed Ranitadine (150 mg.) twice a day, but for some dumb reason (not typical of me at all) I thought I was only supposed to take it once a day. And as we all know (or I assume we do) too much acid in the stomach mimics hunger. So one winter not long ago, I swear I packed on an extra 20-25 pounds due solely to not taking my H2 blocker antacid meds as instructed. Anyway, post-sleeve my surgeon prescribed (for 3-4 months only!) a PPI (Protonix in my case). After that I went back to Ranitadine 150 mg. 2x/day. And now, my acid reflux is no worse than it was pre-sleeve. In the meantime, I've learned a lot about what increases reflux problems -- lots of alcohol, coffee, chocolate, eating late at night, lying down soon after eating, etc. And I avoid doing those things most of the time. Or at least piling them on all at one time. I hope your acid reflux would not be aggravated by a sleeve. Because the sleeve is an amazing tool for weight loss and healthier living. I'm 20.5 months post-op, have lost 100 pounds and maintaining at 135 pounds. (I keep repeating my WLS stats on comments to new posters' threads folks, because most people are on the mobile app and can't see our profiles -- apologies to the long-time posters.) As you probably know from your research, a gastric bypass is less likely to invite reflux problems. But bypasses have some other lifestyle requirements you may have to think hard about. Many people here have had bypass surgery and are happy with their choice. It just wasn't my choice. Best to you!
