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Sleeve or Bypass Regrets?
Queen ApisM replied to maintenanceman's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I got the sleeve, and I will admit, sometimes I wonder "would my weight loss be faster with the bypass?" Especially times like now, when I am dealing with slowed down weight loss even though I am sticking to program. But then, when I really analyze it, I don't think I would be doing anything differently than I am now. I'd still be eating the same amount of calories, per my program's advice. I would be working out the same amount I am now. So, the tool would be different but I'm not sure I would be doing anything differently as a result so in the end, does it matter? People do incredibly well with both surgeries, and others "fail" with both options (I'm using fail loosely, but basically to mean not reach their goals or even much weight loss with either surgery). It's easy to get caught up in this sort of thinking, so I try not to do it. Especially because I am totally at peace with the sleeve (I was not so keen on bypass unless I needed to do it based on medical advice). I just have to use the tool as intended. -
Things are still going good. My diet is open to all foods. The biggest challenge this week was my water. I need to limit my water 30 minutes before and after I eat. Very challenging. It has impacted my overall water intake. My goal is 120oz per day. I have very few food limitations at this time but still limit my red meat intake. I’ve had a few once’s of steak but that’s about it. I’ve been eating a lot of seafood. Pre Surgery Weight = 336 Surgery weight = 330 Current Weight 304.2 The weight loss has certainly slowed up but I still haven’t been completely stalled. My goal this week is to increase my water intake. Good luck everyone. If you’re on the fence about different procedures, I recommend you look at ESG. IMO a very easy procedure.
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Hi ViaLia! My starting BMI was higher than yours at about 42, and I can only comment as someone 10 months post-surgery, but it's been a fantastic surgery for me. I'm not far off my goal and feeling very good. The restriction is strong, but I've had no issues getting my protein, water and vitamins. No dumping - however I'm still very wary with the foods that can cause it. My weight loss has slowed down a lot now that I'm getting closer to goal, my appetite is easy to manage. It may be possible for some to lose too much weight, but I don't expect that would strictly be the fault of the surgery. I eat about 1000 to 1200 calories a day now. That will go up a little more once I reach my goal and begin maintenance. I would never have gotten to where I am now without the MGB. It stopped the self-sabotage and I couldn't be happier with how it's gone.
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Severe Depression during pre-op diet- NORMAL?
Arabesque replied to jessk0560's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
No you’re not alone. You’ve made big changes to what you eat & are grieving the loss of food you used to comfort & soothe & bring you happiness. Because you can’t have that food you want it even more. There’s likely a degree of fear too of the unknown because you don’t know what to expect pre & post surgery & what it will mean fir you. Plus your body is as stressed as your mind hence you being exhausted, depressed & anxious. Do you have a therapist or were you recommended a therapist as part of your pre surgical approval? Many find therapy very helpful as they work through all the head & emotional issues that rise up through the pre & post surgical process. If not, ask your surgeon or medical team for a recommendation as soon as possible especially with how you are currently feeling. All the best. -
VSG to RNY: please give me your stats
Heather0811 replied to Heather0811's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Wow! Congratulations on your weight loss! I’m hopeful since I didn’t lose much with the sleeve that the bypass will do the trick! I’m also a lot more knowledgeable this time around. I’m also looking forward to no heartburn!! -
Severe Depression during pre-op diet- NORMAL?
catwoman7 replied to jessk0560's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
re: the fear of dying = banish that thought. You're not going to die. Weight loss surgeries years ago were dangerous, but they just aren't anymore. Techniques have vastly improved, and these have become very common, routine surgeries. They're really no more risky than any other abdominal surgery. The mortality rate on gastric bypass is 0.3 %. It's even lower for sleeve. So you have at least a 99.7% chance of not dying. Those are excellent odds. Better odds than hip replacement surgeries, and they do those all the time. Honestly, you're more like to experience complications and death by remaining obese than you will be having the surgery. the pre-op diet is tough - and the first few weeks post-op can be tough, too (although in many cases, the pre-op part is worse). But you'll be through this before you know it. I would have this surgery again in a heart beat. No regrets whatsoever. -
Calories at 4 mo Post-Op?
maintenanceman replied to maintenanceman's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I'm at 1100 to 1200, as well. The weight loss has slowed down to about 1 lb. a week, but anything less than 1100 calories and I am ravenously hungry now. -
Do you ever regret getting the kind of surgery you did? I'm a sleever, and my weight loss pace is great. But I can't help having a little FOMO, wondering if I would be doing even better with a bypass.
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Mental health issues n memory issues ater gastric bypass
oldandtired replied to Stephanie howey's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I have found that anesthesia will cause memory loss - for a little while. You are doing a great job losing! Your hormones are having a fit too. Talk to a professional about your depression! -
Yes! WLS is a tool for success. Once you reach a certain size it can be extremely hard without medical help to loose enough weight and this is one way to get medical help. You still have to work hard at it and you still have to monitor diet and exercise but the modification makes the weight loss more achievable!
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3 Weeks Post Op Need some help/advice/encouragement...
jojolynn73 replied to jojolynn73's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I heard that we can get off the ppi after a few months... That is my hope. I never want to be on it forever. I have Ehlers Danlos, so my surgeons told me that the Nisson already has such a high failure rate that is even worse with someone with Ehlers Danlos...So they wouldn't even do it. But my GERD and issues were so bad... In fact, I have to have another biopsy and ultrasound in Sept. It will be my 5th in the last year. They are concerned that I already do have some early cancer in there. So this surgery is going to save my life. I hope. My surgeon says to think of it as life saving surgery with a side order of weight loss. I can't complain about that I suppose. -
I won't lie, I have friends and co-workers who have had some sort of weight loss surgery (lap band, gastric bypass, etc.) and I unfortunately didn't look at them as I should. I thought they "took the easy way out, didn't work hard enough, etc.". However, now that the shoe is on the other foot, I realize it was wrong for me to unnecessarily project my opinion on their situation. All that aside... I think it's up to you when, who, and how you tell. You can be as detailed or as vague as you'd like. I've told my boss at work and just told her I was having "surgery". I have told close friends and family, who I know would be more supportive and receptive to it. Ultimately, it's up to you who you tell and how you tell them. Good Luck!
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I have questions about hair loss
catwoman7 replied to Jennycharles2022's topic in Pre-op Diets and Questions
hair loss is super common after bariatric surgery (actually, it can be a side effect of ANY major surgery because of trauma to the body - but I think we see it more after bariatric surgery because in addition to surgery trauma, we're also taking in very few calories those first few months) I had it from months 5-9, but fortunately, I didn't lose very much. I doubt anyone noticed besides me. about the only thing you can do is keep on top of your vitamins and protein to keep it from getting any worse that it would otherwise. Some people swear by things like biotin, but others say it did nothing for them, so.... -
3 Weeks Post Op Need some help/advice/encouragement...
kcuster83 replied to jojolynn73's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Calm down, stop freaking out and breathe. I know that is easier said than done but try. I also had Bypass, hiatal hernia, severe GERD and nodules in my esophagus. I was not diagnosed with Barrett's but was told I was well on my way. I originally wanted the sleeve and my main reason was for weight loss and to hopefully not develop a ton of medical issues that hang around my family genes. After speaking with my surgeon at my first appointment, he explained that sleeve would likely worsen my GERD while bypass has a much better chance of resolving it. So, after some reading and further research I went with bypass. I had bypass, my hernia fixed, repairs and "trimming" of my esophagus all at once. Fast forward: I am not 4 months post op and have NO regrets or any issues. I did however experience that "stuck feeling" for about a week. I was told it was because my esophagus was narrow and needed time to heal and "loosen" back up after surgery. It did in fact go away, rather quickly. I also had minor spasms for a few days after surgery which also went away. You had more damage than me, it seems so you have to be paiteint and give your body time to heal. Everyone heals differently and you are still fresh out of surgery. I was on 2 prescriptions and eating tums daily and my GERD was still out of control. The day of surgery they stopped 1 prescription of acid meds and I was only taking prescription grade pepcid( Famotidine ). I was told that was standard for at least 2 months after surgery to give our stomachs time to heal and to help prevent ulcers. I have been off ALL GERD medications including the pepcid now for 2 months and still have no signs of GERD or any other acid issues. The meds are likely temporary to give your body time to heal and to act as preventative medication. The black stools are likely the bleeding and if you were on blood thinners, it would be worse. I assume you did some research before choosing your surgeon and trusted him/her. So, trust them. Give yourself the time to heal. Ulcers in general take a bit of time to heal, then adding the surgery and all the other issues you had before surgery. Give it some time. I hope it works out for you! Take it easy. -
I have questions about hair loss
Sleeve_Me_Alone replied to Jennycharles2022's topic in Pre-op Diets and Questions
I am 10 months out. For me, it started at 3 months and has only just recently slowed down. It happens to everyone to varying degrees, it is temporary, with WILL stop and the hair WILL grow back. There really isn't anything you can do to stop the loss, you just have to wait it out (its called telogen effluvium). Make sure you are getting your protein and get your labs done to ensure nutritional deficiencies don't make it worse. Collagen and Biotin can help with regrowth, but won't do much during the loss. -
I was wondering if anyone after bariatric surgery had problems with the hair loss I am 9 months old and I'm still losing hair and I don't know if there's anything I can do for it Sent from my moto g pure using BariatricPal mobile app
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Does Anything Help Hair Loss?
Tomo replied to SoCalEm's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Your dietician may be right about hair loss and collagen but she is wrong about calling it empty calories. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6835901/ Sent from my SM-S908U using BariatricPal mobile app -
Everything that @The Greater Fool & @catwoman7 said. You’re not failing. It’s something we all experience. Don’t let your worth or feelings of success be dependent upon the number on the scales. That thinking will lead to you sabotaging your success. Your weight loss will never be a consistent straight line. It goes up & down all the time. Our bodies naturally fluctuate (hormonal changes, fluid retention, constipation, diarrhoea, less intake today & a little more tomorrow, activity variations, etc.) & while losing weight, our body experiences periods of stress. It reacts to the stress of the weight loss by stalling. Basically, your body closes the door & hides under the covers for a little while until it’s ready to face the world again. The stall will break when your body is ready & you’ll start losing again.
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I believe with bypass you tend to lose more quickly at the beginning but then it slows to a similar rate to sleeve. But people tend to lose more slowly after a revision. I guess because you’ve already had one change with your sleeve & the bypass just changes a bit more. While our new set points will determine a lot of our final weight (where our bodies are happiest & equalises at), you still have to be willing to be dedicated & committed to the program which you learnt after your first experience. The stats say the average weight loss at the three year mark is about 65%+/- of the weight you have to lose with either sleeve or bypass. This takes into consideration the bounce back regain some experience, complacency & changes to your diet to best complement your life, etc. Don’t know what the stats are for revision surgery. Do some lose more than the average stats? Yes. At my lowest I had lost 138% of the weight I had to lose with my sleeve. At three years out now, I weigh a couple of kilos more so am at 129%. I am very careful with my food intake, portions, etc. but I think this is also about the weight my body is happiest at. You’ll lose weight all over your body. You can’t spot lose fat or chose where your body burns fat. It may seem you’re losing weight from certain areas more slowly but it’s usually where you held the most concentration of fat. If you carried a lot of weight on your legs or tummy they might be the slowest place for you to notice loss. All the best.
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I’m having a hard time making a final decision on the surgery. About a year ago I weighed 350. In the last few months I really decided to step up my weight loss game. I’ve now lost 80 lbs and am 270. Obviously I still qualify for the surgery, but I’m having a hard time deciding on moving forward. I’m still losing about 10 lbs a month, but I know weight regain is a huge issue for people who don’t have the surgery. Any advice or suggestions?
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Who says you have to tell anyone? Its really up to you and your comfort level. I told 5 people: Mr., the Kid, BFF, mom and sister. All of whom I know wouldn’t say anything to anyone else if i asked them not to. That was almost 4 years ago. During weight loss phase, everyone and their mothers would ask or comment about my changing appearance. i simply said i was on a diet and changed the subject to be about them. That pretty much did the trick. No one asks/says anything to me anymore. My size just old news now. Tell who you want to tell, it’s not anyone else’s business but yours. Good luck! ❤️
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I doubt anyone has gone from bypass to sleeve since bypass is the more powerful surgery of the two. there are people who go from bypass to duodenal switch (which has a sleeved stomach and a bypassed small intestine), but to standalone sleeve, no. statistically, bypass has slightly better results, but statistics are statistics. It depends much more on your level of commitment than it does on which surgery you have. We have several people on here who've lost 100% of their excess weight - or close to it - with sleeve. revisions typically have slower weight loss than virgin surgeries.
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Backstory- I had a sleeve surgery about seven years ago. I misused my tool with self sabotage. At the time, I didn't have the appreciation nor respect of myself. I wasn't mentally prepared for the physical changes. It's kinda like one of those things... that you don't know till you've been there and done that...sort of situation. You don't know what you don't know! I never hit Onederland...boo!! And as I shrunk in size, I was not taken seriously...that was the first for me and very mind boggling at the time. Those are the two things I remember most and with all that conveyed, the questions.. Those that had the sleeve and went to bypass, how do they compare with the level of success- A.as in the rapidness of weight loss? And B.the areas of the body that the weight loss was mostly noticeable? C.just out of curiosity has anyone had a bypass and went to sleeve? Lol...I have never heard of it much less a possibility...Ok..anddddd Goooo[emoji2956] Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using BariatricPal mobile app
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June 2022 surgery buddies
Mariann812 replied to Jessica1024's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Congratulations 🎈 on your progress! My surgeon told me at 3 weeks post op, that weight loss would slow when solid food was introduced which I did expect. The body metabolizes solids differently. It’s part of the process. Choose nutrient dense, healthy foods, and start building lean muscle. Muscle burns fat. Good luck and keep up the good work! -
I want to add that food and eating ruled my life before surgery. I would wake thinking about what I would eat, and food was constantly on my mind--when I would eat next, what I was craving, where I needed to go to buy the things I craved, etc. I definitely still think a lot about food now as well, which is of course necessary to maintain weight loss. However, I don't feel like my life revolves around food the way it did when I was fat. Quite the opposite: I now view food as fuel, not as reward, comfort or a treat.
