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Study 2108: What happens after bariatric surgery makes a big difference
redhead_che replied to Born in Missouri's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I started eating like crap again for maybe 2 weeks, fell into a depression of sorts. Just pulled myself out of it Sunday and discovered a lovely 3lb gain. Which is hardly anything at all to get off but when I was half a pound from goal....ouch! The protein shakes and water bottles are back in full force and the convenience food/alcohol/coffee is OUT. Just goes to show if you let yourself slide back....there will be consequences -
This is from the ASMBS : Misconception: Many bariatric patients become alcoholics after their surgery. Truth: Actually, only a small percentage of bariatric patients claim to have problems with alcohol after surgery. Most (but not all) who abuse alcohol after surgery had problems with alcohol abuse at some period of time prior to surgery. Alcohol sensitivity, (particularly if alcohol is consumed during the rapid weight-loss period), is increased after bariatric surgery so that the effects of alcohol are felt with fewer drinks than before surgery. Studies also find with certain bariatric procedures (such as the gastric bypass or sleeve gastrectomy) that drinking an alcoholic beverage increases blood alcohol to levels that are considerably higher than before surgery or in comparison to the alcohol levels of individuals who have not had a bariatric procedure. For all of these reasons, bariatric patients are advised to take certain precautions regarding alcohol. If you're someone who occasionally partakes, there is really no reason not to continue to do so. Telling patients to never drink again is absurd and completely unnecessary. Yes transfer addiction can be a concern but there are many things besides alcohol that are risky. I for one more less became a whore after I lost 100 lbs. Thankfully it wasn't long lived and I came to my senses before I ruined my life and my reputation !
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@@innwtitdtity I am from the the same surgical group as you, Dr Krueger is highly respected. I had Dr Collachio. I am 9 days post op, so only completed the Psych Classes last month. We were given a very firm discussion on the practice "rules", which as you know, said no drinking for 1 year. Our Psych then went on to discuss, rather emotionally the increased possibilities of alcoholism after our surgery. She even went so far as to recommend not drinking again, ever. Apparently a former patient had just died that day, as a result of drunk driving, and our Psych was very affected. But she also explained many other patients who were also struggling with drinking after surgery. I understand that struggle all to well as I am a recovering alcoholic, sober 11+ yrs. In fact my research on the co addictions had kept me from exploring surgery sooner. I like to think that I have a healthy fear. and I feel knowledge is ammunition. Just research Alcohol and RNY, there are lots and lots of cases and evidence to help you make an informed choice. For me, I know that if I do not choose the first drink, I will never have to worry about any others. just my two cents.
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The booklet I received with post-op instructions say 30 days, that's it. Here it is verbatim: "Do not drink alcoholic beverages (beer, wine and liquor) for one month after surgery." One year seems really extreme. I hardly ever drink so it won't be an issue for me either way.
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Conflicting thoughts on VSG
Brian66 replied to 420gal's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I can only speak for myself, but having the VSG one year ago was the best decision I've ever made. To date, I've lost 120 pounds and continue to lose weight (although much more slowly now). I knew from the beginning that the band was not for me and I went for my initial consultation with the surgeon thinking I was going to have the RNY procedure. It was my surgeon who suggested the VNY and I will forever be gratful to him that he did. I don't think I ever really focused on "having 85% of my stomach removed" although I was certainly aware of that fact. I just viewed this as the surgical procedure I needed to have to regain my health. I do notice that some people react strongly when I tell them exactly how much has been removed, but when they see the tremendous progress I have made. To be honest, there are still days when I long to eat some of the things and the volume that I used to, but like a drug addict or an alcoholic, I realize that I was not capable of handling food in a responsible manner. I am just grateful that I found a tool that has made it possible for me to manage my particular addiction. My advice is to do a lot of research and find out as much as you can about the procedure. You can certainly understand it without necessarily dwelling on the details. Good luck to you on your journey. Brian -
Seriously!! The mean, judgmental, sarcastic people need to calm their ass down! Geesh!! I bet ya'll wouldnt run your mouth like that face to face.. smh! Anyways happy bday to you.. as previously posted by the nice and caring people, i would stay away from alcohol. Take care! Enjoy your bday!
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And to some others. I am not taking any medicine what so ever. I also didn't know there was a way to look things up. I am on my phone. Thanks for giving me advice and my doctor never said no alcohol. Thats why i am asking. I do not drink only havr maybe 2 times in my life. Thanks for the info though
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I had to sign a waiver that I would not drink alcohol for a year if not longer. The way it was explained to me, it has nothing to do with hurting you stomach, but it has everything to do with how your body will handle alcohol. The smaller stomach has fewer enzymes to break down the alcohol and you have teh potential to become inebriated much more quickly. 21 is a special year, but like everyone else said, you should wait. It doesn't matter that there may be alcohol in your Loratab. When you are on Loratab, you are not allowed to drive or handle large equipment/machines because of impaired judgement.
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Alcohol...you do, you dont? How soon?
IrBaileyzMa posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I know this may be a little soon to think about, but I have to ask. I know that once able, that alcohol effects you a lot quicker and with a much smaller amount than previous to being banded. However, how soon did you start to attempt even a sip of alcohol? If so, what kind? I know people who have had the lap and the gastric. Some of them are back to drinking beer (I already miss this!) like they were prior to surgery, and some still play it safe with wine and clear liqours. Please dont assume that I am an alcoholic, but I am curious because I have 3 weddings to attend within the coming months, including bachelorette parties and I was curious where I stand. I dont want to try anything too soon, but I dont want to be too conservative either. -
If I'm not mistaken, I believe lortab has 7% alcohol. However, the 500mg acetaminophen is super harsh on your liver as it is. Combining that with the 7% alcohol content is really putting a lot of pressure on your liver. Given that a lot of people are drink lortab multiple times a day, you don't want to add anything extra that would stress your liver out even more
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I suffer infrequently. I have watched the onset of my migraines and can sometimes figure out what triggers them. Stress, alcohol are two that I have figured out. Mine last for 3 days and usually make me blindish in one eye. I found the cure. Topirimate stops my migraines dead. I can still feel them, but they are not painful. I take the drug under the name Maxalt rpd. They are melt on your tongue type. I am so relieved that there is a cure. Good luck with yours. I know they are miserable.
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Ahhhhhh! 4 protein shakes and 1 meal a day FOR 2 WEEKS!
Kindle replied to Jls93001's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
3 shakes and leafy green veggies x2 weeks for my preop. I started 2 days early 'cause I was SO ready. Yes, I'm starved and yes, I've had headaches. But I'm on day 12 and It's totally doable... I survived an early Xmas party, a birthday party, and today a memorial service for a friend that passed away Friday. I don't have to tell you about all the food (and alcohol) at those events and I made it through by sipping water non-stop. Just buck up and keep your eye on the big picture. This is only 2 weeks towards improving the rest of your life. -
Can I smoke after surgery?
Alexandra replied to jubjub's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I agree with ABP. There's no reason to test whether there'd be any ill effects of smoking the day after, right? There's certainly no benefit to it, and you'll have pain meds to use if you're uncomfortable. Give yourself AT LEAST a week. And even better, wait until you're fully healed and back on solid food so the loss of inhibition that goes with getting high (and this goes for any mood-altering substance, alcohol, whatever) won't send you grabbing for the chips before your body is ready. Your stomach needs to heal so your band will set in place properly, and that process can take way more than a week. Good luck with your surgery! -
My dr allows you to have small amounts of alcohol 12-18 months out I was just wondering if after the surgery does a little go a long way does it in fact make you a "cheap date"?
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Sugar Alcohol?
LosingItForMe2011 replied to Uniqueladybug's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
When you're in the full eating stage it would work but, sugar alcohols can make you...umm.. well have to go to the bathroom if you take too much in. Laxative effect for some folks. For me if I have too much that does happen. Definitely wait until you're in the right eating stage though. -
Sugar Alcohol made me dump...and I'm Not a 'dumper'...ate some Carb smart ice cream, about 1/2 c....made me sick within minutes.
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Thanks for this thread. I have noticed a lot of sugar free stuff have sugar alcohols and I have no idea if that's ok. Surgery 7/25/12
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I was wondering if sugar alcohol has caused anyone to get sick? I was thinking about getting some sugar free candy but was scared to try it. I'm 2.5 weeks post-op. Jess...Surgiversary 9/19/12
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If your dr said its ok to drink alcohol this early on... Then I would follow his advice. I am not the one to ask about bending the rules because I was super strict with myself so weight would come off sooner than later. 2 years out at goal and I still barely trust myself with a cheese stick or a boneless wing....lol. I didn't drink until I lost the first 100 lbs... And then it's rare but I will enjoy a non carbonated adult beverage every once in awhile... And this from someone who dines out a lot and entertains frequently. For me the calories just aren't worth it.
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Woulda, Shoulda Coulda's
eadreel replied to KAS1971's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Ice packs with cloth covers (or wrapped in a tea towel). They helped with some of the abdominal internal swelling and discomfort. Personally I did my grocery shopping before surgery. I got some ice pops and fudge bars that were sugar free, only they had sugar alcohols in them and after surgery I got the side effect of ingesting those. So I am basically eating ice chips instead of popsicles. If you don't have it, a hand held shower head in case you have an accident and don't make it to a toilet (sometimes you just can't move fast enough). I also took off my bandages after 48 hours and one of the steri-strips was stuck to the bandage, so I had to have hubby go get butterfly bandages (the nurse OKed that) and the nurse told me to stay out of the shower for a few more days! So moral of the story, leave the bandages alone until you absolutely have to leave the house and HAVE to take a shower for decency's sake. I also was unable to do anything close to the floor for a few days. It hurt to crouch or bend over, so I couldn't feed the cats or clean the litter box or pick up anything (clothes, shoes, books) off the floor (that's what hubbies are for). Also, if you have pets that like to crawl on you, don't sleep where they can ambush you. It hurts like the dickens. And super loose clothing across the ab area. I wore denim for the first time 6 days after surgery and it hurt bad! (I got 7 incisions). And two or three boxes of gas-x strips. I went through the first box the first two days and had to send hubby for more. And BEFORE you leave the surgery ward, call where your prescription is and MAKE sure they can and will fill it for you. I was released after close of business and after a grueling hour ride on bad roads, the pharmacy wouldn't fill it because they needed more info from my doc, so my first night home was painful. I should have gotten the script a couple of days before surgery, so we wouldn't have had to go after the surgery. Out of EVERYTHING that was the WORST thing that has happened so far. -
Scared and unsure
shellyd88 replied to Roxie Malone's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
@@Roxie Malone you don't owe anyone explanations for a decision to try and stay healthy and prevent future problems your the one who will live with the effects if u don't do it and get heavier etc ppl can't understand things they don't experience don't listen to ppl who speak to u this way if someone lost weight without surgery kudos to them it doesn't make u a failure surgery is a tool not a cure I'm nearly 6 weeks post op I smell things I want but know I shouldn't eat etc the food u put in is up to u the want will be there they just think if u simply eat less excercise etc blah blah well if it were that simple no one would be overweight it's an addiction like drugs and alcohol hmmm rehab would be out of bussiness if only ppl wouldn't drink or take drugs so think of it as rehab for yourself and tune out the rest I find that usually the ones who criticize are also the ones who whisper about and point at the overweight ppl and likely any other flaw they can find -
I was told three hours also but it was more like an hour and a half for me. The main points they went over was whether or not you can follow the required post op plan and that you din't have any undiagnosed issues. Like night eating or any alcohol or drug abuse issues. She gave me some information on a book to read about setting Boundaries, in all aspects on my life. Which hey, can't hurt. I am one who does not like conflict and will just go with the flow but I know thats not always the best answer either. Overall, don't worry. Tracey
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Girl, i can drink or sip @ least 5oz ( equivalent to 10-12 medium sips appx. the size of a Jim Bean whiskey glass) wit not much problem, as long as i pat my chest in the manor of a baby feeding, to get a burp up! Solids are different, i ate 4 bites if my friends chineese food yesterday & suffered greatly! But other softer food, i hv no problem with, for example, yesterday i went to a watch Party !!Go cowboys, i ate 1/3 slice pizza & brought my own non alcoholic beverage, no problem! Your body will let you know what your limits are. I think it depends on the individual, I was never one with a weak stomach b4 surgery, & I believe the people who are throwing up alot really aren't following their diet like they suspose to,because it requires you to be extremely hungry &everyone cant handle that , but I guarantee we have had the same quality of work as in tha us!!! What hospital were you in ? Who was your doc? Did you see me? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Anyone Successful After A Bad Start?
PixiePower replied to PixiePower's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Wow thanks so much for all the wonderful replies! I really must come on here more often it really is a haven of support! I feel much more motivated than i have in the past month thank you all so much! Waitingpatiently you make excellent points. In the past twelve months i have had a baby, been on the pill, come off the pill, had a band and gone back on the pill. I think i need to give my body a break so i gave come off the pill and will report to non hormonal contraceptive for at least six months. I also allow myself to get too hungry then good choices go out the window. I must admit i also haven't exercised at all in the past month and have had a few nights out- weddings etc where alcohol was involved. Well it's really no big shock that Im not down much, it's actually quite a wonder Im not UP weight! SageTracy- you're so right, in the beginning of this journey i gave myself two years to lose the weight so that i wouldn't get down at slow losses and give up. If you've read above you'll see that i haven't really done much to help myself in the past month so Im considering today a fresh such. Thank you! Stephy this is also true, Im definitely not at restriction but need a kick of willpower to make good choices and i think all you're replies were just the kick i needed! B-52 that's very inspirational and exactly what i needed to hear, even though my band is only half full i think i was thinking, wow this is IT?! I forget that i still have 5cc to go and from what i read sometimes even .5cc can make all the difference. Well today is a new day- Im in Ireland so it's the morning and Im feeling great. Thanks so so much everyone!x -
Pre surgery preparation
OKCPirate replied to Chrisedwards's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
#1 - I worked through this book: http://www.amazon.com/Emotional-First-Aid-Kit-Practical/dp/0976852659/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1436729032&sr=8-13&keywords=bariatric+book #2 - gave up alcohol (three day taper) #3 - Diet soda #4 - Caffeine (two week taper) #5 - Began pre-op diet two weeks before surgery. Did lunch as my slow eat practice meals for three weeks prior to surgery. Also discovered I liked Isopure green tea from GNC. RESULTS: No sudden no caffeine headaches post surgery. No soda cravings. Knew rote skills for slow eats. Was emotionally prepared. Extra Protein from Isopure kept my energy levels high.
