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No one said anything about it other than when I take a shower don't wash them just let the Water run over them etc. I'm wondering how often the bandages should be replaced and if I should use any alcohol to wipe them off? They said to put new bandages after I shower but I do that every other day at the moment. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930AZ using the BariatricPal App
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Dumping Syndrome
StefanieSparklePants replied to Autumn Riley Arnold's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I have pretty intense dumping symptoms at 10 months out. Keep in mind, it doesnt matter if you're eating small amounts of healthy food-- merely eating too quickly can make me dump, or not chewing well enough. Sugar alcohols in sugar free items make me dump, and taking one bite too many can make me dump. It's a learning process. I prepared the same way, still got dumping syndrome, while others never claim to experience it. My Mom had RNY too, and she eats all the foods we're told not too: candy, pasta and bread, and never dumps. Meanwhile, I'm following the rules to a "T" and dump fairly often. -
Surgery date scheduled[emoji119]????
bsweetness posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yess. So after all this preparation I have been scheduled for June 14th❤️. I am so excited. New chapter coming soon. I'm relieved I only have a 1 day clear liquid prep day. Do you think I can tolerate alcohol by the 4th of July? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Instagram: @bsweetness snapchat: @b-sweetness -
Did anyone ever get Gastritis?
StefanieSparklePants replied to cuchas's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had severe gastritis to the point I had to take 3 prilosec a day plus tums. Sugar alcohols from sugar free gum and mints was the culprit. It took over two weeks to completely heal it. Now I only have SF gum once in a great while. Also, it's weird, because my surgeon told me SF gum was safe, but I completely over did it. Like I binged out on it. Im 10 months out, so I feel comfortable chewing gum but most places will tell you absolutely under no circumstances: NO GUM. Dont want to get it stuck if swallowed. My bariatric team kinda shrugged when I told them I was chewing gum. I had a barium xray of my pouch and everything is good now, but my stomach lining was seriously irritated for a long time because of it. Constant burping, gas, almost a heart burn sensation and my pouch BURNED and hurt when I ate or drank anything- thought I had an ulcer, but no, gastritis and too many sugar alcohols. -
Amid concerns for artificial sweeteners, more products are coming into the bariatric world that contain either stevia or monk fruit, which are naturally derived sweeteners. Stevia is actually a shrub. Monk fruit is an Asian melon and may be listed as luo han guo on the ingredient list. Several powder and liquid forms of water flavors now use stevia. These are easily available in grocery stores. Stevia can be plain stevia or listed as Truvia, which is a combination of stevia and erythritol. Erythritol is a naturally occurring sugar alcohol and will have a few calories. For powder forms of water flavors, look for the Crystal Light Pure and the Great Value version from Walmart. Crystal Light Pure does have four grams sugar per half-packet, so some patients may not be able to tolerate this product. In the liquid drop form, brands to look for include MIO with stevia, Great Value version, Skinny Girl, Sweet Leaf and Stur. Add enough of these products to taste right for you. Too much can get super sweet in a hurry. For protein powders, look for Jay Robb and Syntrax Nectar Naturals. Even yogurts are joining in the natural sweeteners trend. Look for the Greek style yogurts Chiobani Simply 100 (has stevia and monk fruit) and Oikos Triple Zero (has stevia, look for black label). Experiment with different stevia or monk fruit sweetened products to see what you like.
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Several powder and liquid forms of water flavors now use stevia. These are easily available in grocery stores. Stevia can be plain stevia or listed as Truvia, which is a combination of stevia and erythritol. Erythritol is a naturally occurring sugar alcohol and will have a few calories. For powder forms of water flavors, look for the Crystal Light Pure and the Great Value version from Walmart. Crystal Light Pure does have four grams sugar per half-packet, so some patients may not be able to tolerate this product. In the liquid drop form, brands to look for include MIO with stevia, Great Value version, Skinny Girl, Sweet Leaf and Stur. Add enough of these products to taste right for you. Too much can get super sweet in a hurry. For protein powders, look for Jay Robb and Syntrax Nectar Naturals. Even yogurts are joining in the natural sweeteners trend. Look for the Greek style yogurts Chiobani Simply 100 (has stevia and monk fruit) and Oikos Triple Zero (has stevia, look for black label). Experiment with different stevia or monk fruit sweetened products to see what you like.
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Approved for June 6
CelesteMarie replied to AnaTravella's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
It's no biggie but they didn't give me a preop and I'm surprised about that coz I was 277 and 5'5". My surgeon was Dr. Atkinson. Weight loss center. Had my surgery at Desert Inn hospital on the 5th of this month. I followed orders the first two weeks but I don't follow to a t anymore. That's bad. I still get all my Protein in but I had pain popcorn (not supposed to) and I had alcohol one night (not supposed to). Other than that, it's going great. When I first woke up, I immediately regretted it but now I am so glad I did it. I went back to work 3 days after. Sent from my SM-N910V using the BariatricPal App -
There is something definitely going on with the dating pool in the MA/CT area! I have a date Thursday with a guy who wanted to know if I would like to do a 5k with him this weekend. Ummm that would be a NO! I'll do the color run 5k trotting and walking because you end up a mess, and the Rugged Maniac 5k obstacle course because it was crazy fun with a large group...we redid some of the more fun obstacles. This dude is totally into fitness. I told him that my body was built for Comfort, not Speed! So dinner and drinks and conversation it is. On Friday, I'm going out with Tattoo Guy to dinner and to see a friends band. (So far he's the one I'm most interested in) Then somehow/somewhere over the next week I'm trying to work in the three other guys that want to meet up. Have no idea what the heck is up...but you know what...I am going for it! I think that it's my willingness to just go out on the limb and have fun. As I told my girlfriend who started me on this latest Quest...you aren't courting, you don't have to be intimate (I'm so old skool that I don't kiss on a first or second date...haven't kissed ANY of them), you don't have to marry them...just go out, have fun, be yourself. I'm definitely learning more about myself! As for the recovering alcoholic, a previous date, I decided that I can't do it. He was nice enough, but I just can't, and the attraction wasn't there for me.
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Withdrawals [emoji15]
jess9395 replied to lupita19's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Actually opiates are sedating, but they also have an impact on the dopamine system, so they have stimulant qualities as well. A lot of people get energy from opiates, especially depressed people. Actually, some opiates have been used as anti-depressants. They are not like alcohol:downers because the primary neurotransmitter targeted (GABA) is different, but opiates can cause sedation, euphoria and other effects but differently than alcohol or benzodiazepines. I mean, I guess people call them downers sometimes, but it isn't very scientific. It is possibly to get withdrawal symptoms after 2-3 weeks of continuous use. Depression can rebound after stopping opiates. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Well they are CNS depressants. They do have the psychotropic effects you describe through the dopamine channels, but "uppers" vs "downers" usually refer to effects on the central nervous system. We don't disagree on their effects, just the terminology of uppers/downers. Yes the brain chemistry is different than with alcohol and benzodiazepines. Anyhow, to the OP definitely talk to your doctor. You really shouldn't need the narcotic pain relief at this point, there are alternatives that don't have the same potential for problems. -
Withdrawals [emoji15]
NewAngela replied to lupita19's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Actually opiates are sedating, but they also have an impact on the dopamine system, so they have stimulant qualities as well. A lot of people get energy from opiates, especially depressed people. Actually, some opiates have been used as anti-depressants. They are not like alcohol:downers because the primary neurotransmitter targeted (GABA) is different, but opiates can cause sedation, euphoria and other effects but differently than alcohol or benzodiazepines. I mean, I guess people call them downers sometimes, but it isn't very scientific. It is possibly to get withdrawal symptoms after 2-3 weeks of continuous use. Depression can rebound after stopping opiates. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
Re read the whole thread, that is discussed up thread. Many people count net carbs, as in take the total carbs (my Quest bar wrapper here says 26) subtract the Fiber grams as they are "good carbs" (my wrapper says 17) and some subtract the sugar alcohol grams as well because of how they are digested (wrapper says 6g erythritol). So 26-17 = 9 net carbs Or 26-17-6 = 3 net carbs As someone else said unthread her nutritionist doesn't agree with that. Mine does. You need to find out your doctor or nutritionist recommendations on that or if you don't have that option do your own research and form an educated opinion. Oh ok. Thanks so much for explaining. I was scared of getting attacked by people thinking I was being judge-y. Lol. The only way to learn is by asking and I knew nothing of the net carb concept. I'll definitely ask my medical peeps! Thanks again! Anytime!!!
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Withdrawals [emoji15]
jess9395 replied to lupita19's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Actually both Norco and Percocet are downers. The depress your central nervous system they don't stimulate it. Yes they can have the psychological effect of euphoria and decrease anxiety and depression just like alcohol or pot which are also CNS depressants/downers. Some depression is really common post op, especially in women because of hormone release (estrogen is stored in fat). But PLEASE DO check with your doctor. It's not likely withdrawal (as stated above) but you could be becoming psychologically dependent. Or it could be normal side effects of survey that you are medicating with the Norco, which is a step down the road to becoming psychologically dependent. -
Re read the whole thread, that is discussed up thread. Many people count net carbs, as in take the total carbs (my Quest bar wrapper here says 26) subtract the fiber grams as they are "good carbs" (my wrapper says 17) and some subtract the sugar alcohol grams as well because of how they are digested (wrapper says 6g erythritol). So 26-17 = 9 net carbs Or 26-17-6 = 3 net carbs As someone else said unthread her nutritionist doesn't agree with that. Mine does. You need to find out your doctor or nutritionist recommendations on that or if you don't have that option do your own research and form an educated opinion. Oh ok. Thanks so much for explaining. I was scared of getting attacked by people thinking I was being judge-y. Lol. The only way to learn is by asking and I knew nothing of the net carb concept. I'll definitely ask my medical peeps! Thanks again!
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Re read the whole thread, that is discussed up thread. Many people count net carbs, as in take the total carbs (my Quest bar wrapper here says 26) subtract the Fiber grams as they are "good carbs" (my wrapper says 17) and some subtract the sugar alcohol grams as well because of how they are digested (wrapper says 6g erythritol). So 26-17 = 9 net carbs Or 26-17-6 = 3 net carbs As someone else said unthread her nutritionist doesn't agree with that. Mine does. You need to find out your doctor or nutritionist recommendations on that or if you don't have that option do your own research and form an educated opinion.
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Had my first drink on May 13th, being sleeved on March 28th so figure 7 weeks post op. Was a heavy drinker pre-op and I wanted to test it out - so I went to the bar, where my friend works (free drinks - yikes). Ended up having 4 glasses of wine and 2 shots of rumchata. The first drink I drank very slow, I felt it hit hard, and then leveled out. But as number 2, 3 and 4 went down quicker, I could def feel the buzz. After that, the shots put me over the edge and I was drunk. Ended up having a hangover and needed Tylenol and water the next day. Pre-op - 6 drinks would of made me buzzed, if that - not even close to being drunk. I do agree that it hits you faster, and harder in less amounts. But you also need to consider how fast you drink, if you are drinking on an empty stomach, and the type of alcohol, wine vs. hard liquor. Just be mindful of these things, and you will be fine. Oh and of course, the super mega added calories. When I drink on a weekend, I expect a few days of a setback in weight loss. Sometimes it is worth it in my opinion, other times, not so much. But for a celebration like memorial day weekend coming up, I will give myself a few glasses of wine. Cheers everyone!
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I was told 1 year before having alcohol. I waited about 3 months and it didn't do anything to me! But then.... It hit me about 5 months post op... It almost makes me sick (not sure if I'm happy about this part). I have drank a small margarita (skinny) and felt plastered. I'm still debating on whether it's worth it at all. It sure would save me $$$! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Real resources for people our age?
VSGAnn2014 replied to kalinicoled's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Actually, as a 70-year-old who was once 20-something I do think there are some unique issues that people your age go through related to bariatric surgery. You're in SUCH a different point of life than folks in their 40s and older. You're still trying to find your way in life in every way imaginable. Your obesity has such a big impact on all of your navigational challenges. Life and its burdens teach us a lot of lessons about what we're made of and how we can come through adversity, endure pain, and come out stronger than before. But most of you haven't dealt with some of these adversities: You probably haven't been married yet -- or divorced yet. Most of you haven't had children yet or cared for your own parents as they ail or age. You haven't yet changed your career trajectory more than once. Many of the lessons those experiences teach translate well in terms of the courage and self-confidence we need to succeed with WLS. On the plus side, obesity probably hasn't yet had a chance to impact your health, like it has for middle-aged folks and older. You have much more energy than we do. Your metabolic rate is higher than ours. Your body's ability to recover from WLS and to look like we all want to look like is far superior to older folks'. Your double chins will disappear. You won't have any wrinkles. For the most part, your skin will pop back and look like you were never overweight. Few of you will need plastic surgery. On the other hand, the 20s-style social life means you are probably spending much more time in bars and clubs than older folks. Alcohol and other drugs have caloric and other downsides for those following a WLS lifestyle. As some here have described, fewer people in their 20s are obese, compared to the proportion of obese people in their 40s and older. So that means your age-peers are not as sympathetic to the plights of the obese and are perhaps more ignorant and more scornful of WLS as a treatment for obesity. So, yeah, those are tougher attitudinal environments than older WLS patients have to weather. So I agree that you could be the one to focus on your generation and WLS. Do some serious research of your own. Interview surgeons. Interview patients. Report on their observations and experiences. You could start by blogging about your own experiences. Other 20-something WLS patients may also be blogging about theirs. You could write the book, go on tour, become a talk show host, build a media empire, become a bazillionaire! (You're welcome. ) -
Hydration/Dry Mouth
CINNAMON 2015 replied to noworries_365's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I agree with the others, but don't buy mouthwash with alcohol in it. There is also a drink called Isopure ready to drink, they have all different flavors and a 20 oz bottle has 40gms of protein, my favorite is blue raspberry, everybody else's too cause its on back order at Lucky Vitamin, but you can also get it at Amazon but theirs cost a little more. Good Luck! -
Cake after being sleeved
Bufflehead replied to LMSWNYC's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
@@lweaver1 I have to strongly disagree. For some of us -- not all, but some -- insisting on learning moderation with sweets is like telling an alcoholic they have to learn how to drink in moderation and that having one drink now and then is a good way to end cravings for liquor. Not everyone can "do" moderation. I know I can't, I learned it the hard way. I don't know whether the OP will be a moderator or an abstainer by nature, but that's something they need to figure out for themself. They say "I really need to stay clear of these foods" -- that sounds like an instinctive knowledge that this is not a good choice, at least for now.- 13 replies
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@ - the lady on the train who complimented you made up for the j@ck@ss at work. Do not allow his comments to continue and try to not respond, just head to HR. I HAVE responded to an a**hole (hung over alcoholic)about 20 years ago at work when he decided to literally cuss me out and I just went off with every 4 letter, 6 letter word I could think of (made up a few). If I hadn't retaliated I could've had him reprimanded. He had been making snide comments for a couple of weeks and I was over it and let it go. Funny thing was that our boss (an alcoholic as well) stood right there and watched the whole thing go down. He (boss) stood there shaking after it was over and said I didn't know what to do (?). This forum is for ranting and raving and for those who don't realize that need to sip another cup of coffee, and take their hands off the keyboard and READ!
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What Has Been the Hardest Habit for You to Break?
BackSpin81 replied to Alex Brecher's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Chewing gum and carbonated beverages. I was never a big soda fan. But champagne or sparkling alcohol was always a joy. But thankfully I've managed to stay off carbonate drinks post surgery along with chewing gum as well. I surprisingly don't miss the gum, the alcohol is painful! Lol. Sent from my SM-G920P using the BariatricPal App -
Experienced Sleevers - Tolerances/Intolerances
Kindle replied to brookebonic's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I couldn't tolerate lactose, artificial sweeteners or plain water for 4 months, but now I can. Too much alcohol, coffee or fried food gives me gastritis and I can't do carbonation at all. -
Making Peace with Food: WLS and OA
Inner Surfer Girl posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
As is often noted, when performing surgery, our surgeon only operates on our digestive tract, not our brains. Many of us come to WLS with a long time or even a lifetime dysfunctional relationship with food and/or our bodies. One resource for making peace with food and our bodies is Overeater's Anonymous (OA). OA is a worldwide fellowship that is fashioned after Alcoholic's Anonymous. OA uses AA's 12-step model of recovery and changes the words alcohol and alcoholic to food and compulsive eater. If you are struggling with food and emotional eating or other issues around food and eating (anorexia, bulimia, compulsive eating, binge eating, body dysmorphia, food obsession, etc.), then you may want to explore OA. The website (OA.org), has information about the program, literature, meeting lists, podcasts, and other useful information. Here is a good blog post about how WLS and OA can work together: http://www.mybariatriclife.org/oa-overeaters-anonymous-after-surgery/ -
Dumping from medication and vitamins?
WantToBe replied to relientKitten's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Sorry for intruding - I am not having Bypass but did have band and was removed. I do not have anything right now but was experimenting with Vitamins for after my sleeve and the Bari-melts did the same thing to me. Almost all vitamins do the same for me. I found some Wellness liquid vitamins (Amazon) that do not have sugar alcohol content and don't make me run for restroom. I am sensitive to those things - more so than others. Keep experimenting with vitamins. I think I am going back to what James M. suggested - Flintstones chewables. -
How Do You Define WLS Success, and What Advice Can You Offer?
OKCPirate replied to VSGAnn2014's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
1- Can I do the things I want to do? ...re: no embarrassing walks of shame because I couldn't get into a ride, or was too heavy to do something. I don't care about a number, I want certain results. 2- biggest challenge will probably be alcohol. I can't get drunk or even feel much of a buzz with this sleeve, so its difficult to tell when I have had too much 3- Get it done sooner. To succeed you must do four things...Plan, Prepare, Act and Evaluate.
