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Adult beverages after the sleeve?
FrankyG replied to fancypants67's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Sooooo many threads on this subject (just a few recent ones to get you started): http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/369537-beer http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/369245-alcohol http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/367526-alcohol-post-opits-possible-when-how-much http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/365478-alcohol -
Oooo interesting topic. So that's a good question to me too...CAN you drink after the sleeve? and if so...how long until you can consume alcohol?
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I'm setting myself up for failure.
garciagiss posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You guys ........ My surgery is 9 days away. 9 days. I haven't lost any weight in 2 months. I did great the first month. Ate healthy, no alcohol, no smoking , and I only lost 3 pounds... A sad 3 pounds that most said was just Water weight ;( I got so discouraged and found myself eating all the crap I was eating before . I found myself cheating and slowing going back on all the progress I had done ... I was suppose to be on my 2 week pre op diet a week ago. And here I am +5 pounds from my overall Preop diet. I am so emotionally drained. If I can't do this and control my hunger now , how will I control it after surgery? Am I setting myself up for failures ? I'm getting my sleeve in Mexico and I have been emailing my progress via email... But it's now closer and closer to my surgery date and I'm feeling a total wreck. I have not read or seen anyone not loose weight on the pre op diet . Please advise ;( Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
Sean - I followed a nearly liquid diet with some limited cheating and dropped almost 15 #s in two weeks before my surgery. Heck, the day before the surgery I broke every rule and did a pizza buffet with a friend (but severely limited what I ate).. I was afraid that was going to cost me the surgery. It was hard but I cut out all the fun foods - soda, pizza, Panda Express, Pasta, Soups, BEER, alcohol, and marijuana... and even when I traveled, I would still go to Panda Express, but get teriyaki chicken with NO sauce with white rice and drink Water. My doctor had a *very* strict diet, as I guess they get a high failure rate of people who can't lose the weight. But a lot of water, fruits & veggies did the trick for me.
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Intussusception - abdominal pain without fever or nausea
twseid58 replied to twseid58's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Let me give a follow-up to my situation. No evidence could be found in any tests that I was experiencing intussusception. Eventually, the only diagnosis that could be suggested was that there was some ulcers. The only basis for that was that I mentioned that I had gotten into the habit of drinking wine in the evenings. Altogether I had a highly acidic diet and had stopped taking Omeprazole. I stopped drinking alcohol, stopped eating a pot of chili a week, and started back on Omeprazole. A year later and I have not had any other symptoms. Over the past year I have become an avid cyclist and am in the best shape of my life. As I think about it, I don't believe the pain I was experiencing was ulceration. But I needed to remove the likelihood of that diagnosis in order for them to be able to figure out what my problem might be. On the other hand, I don't think my pain was as severe as it should have been if I did have an intussusception. I don't know, so I intend to stick with my current way of life, which is greatly improved over where I was a year and a half ago. Still really, really glad I had the gastric bypass surgery. I'm working on losing some more with a goal of another 15 lbs. so I'll reach the 200 lbs. lost goal. -
I have always been fat, hitting 275 in highschool. In college I lost a lot of weight. Simple calorie counting. I yoyoed a little but managed to be between 220 and 250. Especially as I started Drinking. It was going great until I started taking Phentermine. Which I wish I was exaggerating when I say I am lucky to have survived what that doctor did to me. Since college I have gotten back on track. It took many years to recover emotionally to the effects of the different medications also I have been alcohol free for 2 years. Cig free for 4. Managed with the help of a Pavlok bracelet to ditch sugar. (hypoglycemic, I crave that stuff bad) A year ago I was in California, doing crossfit, and paleo. got back down to 240ish. Walking 8 miles with my dog in the summer on weekends.. Moved back home with the folks away from that healthy lifestyle. Took a job at an abusive startup, quit and been doing freelancing.. and a year later now I am at 275 again. At the least I can deadlift 350 lbs, unlike me in highschool, but I am at the same 40 in waist line. I went from doing workouts like FRAN to now having a hard time with a mild hike. Sad. I even had a chart. I never missed a week, and on average I did 3.4 sessions per week over 8 months. About 115 sessions in a chain. I was looking at POSE but that is not in the US. (6 years and counting... oh FDA). The balloon in the stomach looks interesting, but I don't need a short term solution. The rest looks scary as ****. I have no interest in having half my stomach cut out. I just need help eating less. I am also not interested in anything that would cut my caloric intake to under 1400 a day. I believe doing so will only irreversibly damage your metabolism. Not to mention kill me in the gym. I guess my only option is to get the balloon as a jump start and stop making escuses to why I cannot be what I was just 18 months ago.
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Ok, not going to lie, it sucks giving up habits that we have enjoyed for many years. I weaned off Diet Mt Dew, coffee, alcohol,and then deliberately starved myself to shrink my liver so my surgery would be successful. AND IT WAS WORTH IT This isn't the easy way. It is a tool. BUT IT IS SO WORTH IT. Just saying.
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You have a good point. I'm sure the best thing to do would be to avoid alcohol as long as possible or forever, especially if you have an addictive personality. I'm hoping that I can indulge in the future at social events but cut out all of my evening glasses of wine at home. Sent from my SM-G920T using the BariatricPal App I'm with you. My days of "weekday" wine are over. I hope to enjoy a glass here and there when the time comes. Thankfully, it's just not that appealing anymore!
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You have a good point. I'm sure the best thing to do would be to avoid alcohol as long as possible or forever, especially if you have an addictive personality. I'm hoping that I can indulge in the future at social events but cut out all of my evening glasses of wine at home. Sent from my SM-G920T using the BariatricPal App
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Ok who is currently on a preop diet?!
elizabeth105 replied to Katrinakit's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi! I'm having surgery 6/15, too! Normally my surgeon only does a 2 day clear liquid diet, but since I have non-alcoholic fatty liver I'm required to do it for 10 days. I stocked up on different herbs and spice mixes to make broth interesting for 10 days. So far, so good! I'm down 11 lbs. @@oceangirlpc Don't beat yourself up, tomorrow will be better!! I have told my family that if they're eating something, don't take offense if I walk away. Someone placed bread in front of me last night, I literally passed the basket back! We're almost there -
At my first support group meeting, they had a woman who spoke about her experience with wine. She had an addictive personality, hence the eating, and after drinking 1 glass of wine with dinner, she continued to do so EVERY NIGHT until she became an alcoholic. When going to AA she found that 13 in her group were former WLS patients. Coincidence??? I don't know but I'm not getting involved in another addiction after recovering from my food addiction. I have fought too hard to get to where I am now in Pre Op.
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Things I can no longer have....
daniotra replied to jennmonterrozo's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Some of those "forever no-nos" vary by program. You will see lots of debate on here about it, so ask your doctor. Common ones include: straws, alcohol, carbonation, straight fruit juice, high-calorie liquids (smoothies!), caffeinated beverages, smoking, soft bread, chewing gum, celery sticks (chopped or de-stringed is usually OK), NSAIDs, drinking and eating at the same time (including Cereal with milk and chunky soup), high fat/high sugar products, popcorn, slider foods. That's all I can think of at moment. It's better to think of all you -can- eat (in small doses). Eventually you will be able to eat most everything. Some foods you will need to be more cautious with than others, some may not agree with you any longer. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
Wine becomes about 4 times a potent after surgery. One glass of wine will hit you like you had 4 glasses. Bar tabs are now a bargain! My doctor advised waiting at least 6 months before having any kind of alcohol. Some advise waiting a full year. One bariatric surgeon has suggested that red wine is your best choice if you are going to drink due to the calories.
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My story for those on their journey...
now2children posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I try to keep private, and sometimes that opens you up to rumors from people who do not understand. On April 29, 2015 I started a journey to better health. 45 yrs old and on multiple meds for serious health issues. I made an appt to learn about weight loss surgery. I did not want gastric bypass for personal reasons, but was planning on VSG. I learned all I could and decided I was going to try it "on my own". After all, was I really that out of control that I needed surgery to help? At what was going to be my last appt with the bariatric dr, I moved and brought out a pain (that I had been dealing with for awhile), which brought me to more tests. Needed to have surgery quickly anyway so let's go ahead with the sleeve. Surgery was 9-30-15. Everything was fine, up walking etc. On 10-1-15, during a walk, I started with difficulty breathing, slight chest pain, the most horrific experience. I had a bi-lateral PE. I was terrified. I was rushed to CICU. I owe everything to Mission Hospital rapid response team! The PE had caused right side heart damage. No one is certain that it was due to surgery, my ankles had been swollen. Why did I get a second chance? Now I am 115lbs down, still working on it, off oxygen, down 5 sizes, and am off 4 meds. I am no longer considered diabetic, no longer worry about hypertension or cholesterol. Did I take the "easy way out"? Hell NO! It's harder to deal with everything. I am an addict, food has never let me down and always there! But I AM the one in control. I AM the one counting all protein grams and carbs. I AM the one who makes the choice to work out or not. I AM doing the work. The sleeve doesn't reach up and grab the steering wheel to stop me from turning into McDonald's! It is a tool and a coach that helps me get back on the field after a stupid move. I can read, but my glasses make it easier. Same thing. I deal with my choices now, the same as an alcoholic or other addict deals with theirs. I know one certain drink or food and I would be right back out of control. People judge if you aren't the norm, and also judge if you don't conform the way they think is right. Whatever is right for you is right! I have learned so much about me over the past months and found out about more health issues I didn't know I had, because of the testing I have went through. Dropping the mic and stepping down now. -
Is your surgery a secret?
Shaydi.Laine replied to Tara1992's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was worried about this also, but so far it's been easy, I was even able to keep it from a best friend of 23+ years. (Just to see if could get away with it. He was the one person I finally told.) Luckily the weight loss bit is one thing you wont be able to keep to yourself. That's going to be blatantly visible. (yay!) So the fact that you are on a "diet" is sort of a "duh" answer. It's also enough of an explanation for how you are eating, not drinking booze, and no one notices that I don't touch my Water at the dinner table. The "diet" I am on, as I would tell anyone, is low carb, really small portions, and no alcohol. (That last bit is gonna change, but will remain minimal. Alcohol has always stalled my diet efforts.) You can also say you are eating 6 small meals a day instead of 3 large ones and it's working. Take those leftovers with you. You will want them later Surgery or no surgery, weight loss results are achieved through our own efforts and actions. The fact is that anyone can eat around their surgery and completely blow it, not to mention the effects of the surgery will wear thin eventually. The bulk of this is on us. We're just learning all the right moves for getting it off and more importantly, keeping it off. -
You really look incredible! Stop worrying about a number on the scale or a pants size. Stop stressing and enjoy your new life! Be careful not to get obsessed with losing more - and watch the alcohol (that can derail you).
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Really anything that you can eat a lot of and never get full because they compress so small and once they hit the stomach they slide right through. Any kind of liquid.....high carb coffee drinks, milk shakes, fruit smoothies, ice cream, alcohol, etc are obvious sliders. Cookies, chips, popcorn and other "airy" foods are sliders. (They really don't take up that much space once the air is chewed out of them). Even some otherwise nutritious foods can be considered sliders if you can easily eat more than what your calorie limitations allow. For example, nuts and nut butters were a good source of fat and Protein for me early on. But I discovered they never really made me feel full and I like them so much I could easily eat a whole jar of Peanut Butter. They are no longer allowed in my house. Slider foods are especially dangerous for those with a sensitive sleeve. Dense protein can be uncomfortable and it might be a lot less painful to eat slider foods. I hear this as an excuse for poor food choices from my friend with a lapband and from a couple bypass friends a lot.
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Stomach stretching
sanjumelts replied to sanjumelts's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I drink my alcoholic beverages through a straw all the time. Best, Sanju -
I think the general rule is no drink within 30 minutes of eating - before or after. My friend takes small sips of her alcohol when we go out for dinner together - it takes her about 2 hours to finish a drink and eat a fair amount of food.
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I can speak to this question from experience... I'm eight months post-op and have had an occasional beer since about the third month. To be able to drink it at all I have to pour it into a glass and allow all of the carbonation to escape. I tried a couple of times drinking one from the bottle and could only manage a few sips before the carbonation basically locked me up with an uncomfortable full feeling. I used to be a weekend warrior, spending weekends with friends at the lake and consuming large quantities of beer. I suspect this was a large contributor to my weight issue. I've found that post surgery there is no way I could return to that sort of behavior as I tend to be affected much sooner and stronger by alcohol than I was pre-surgery. Alcohol gets metabolized in the intestines, and for a normal person the stomach holds it and meters it into the intestines. With a sleeve it hits much sooner so the effects are magnified. Also, for me alcohol consumption to any degree greater than one occasional beer just stops my weight loss in its tracks. Overall I think it is something better left for maintenance.
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Sugar free ice cream?
CelesteMarie replied to NatashaSaysRawr's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I've done that with the protein shakes! Lol. Ice cream was just one of my favorites before sleeve and probably was a huge contribution to my diabetes. I don't crave sweets yet and I think it would make me want more. It's an easy "treat" to not get full on but not enough nutrition for me and too much sugar (even sugar alcohols count to me as sugar). Good things come to good people. -
Sugar free ice cream?
NatashaSaysRawr replied to NatashaSaysRawr's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Then it would be a good idea to say that in your question, wouldn't it? Speaking only for myself, the dealbreaker for me is the presence of sugar alcohols. My sleeve doesn't have a problem with them but my gut sure does. I've lost my taste for sweets, anyhow, so seeking out sugar-free, lactose free ice cream isn't on my radar. I mean I did say can we? And ahhhh ok thank you -
Sugar free ice cream?
2goldengirl replied to NatashaSaysRawr's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Then it would be a good idea to say that in your question, wouldn't it? Speaking only for myself, the dealbreaker for me is the presence of sugar alcohols. My sleeve doesn't have a problem with them but my gut sure does. I've lost my taste for sweets, anyhow, so seeking out sugar-free, lactose free ice cream isn't on my radar. -
Follow your surgeon's post surgery plan. Beer has empty calories. You may feel the affect of alcohol much sooner post surgery. Some people could have a cross addiction to alcohol post surgery. You may make other poor food choices if drinking. Old behaviors that helped us become obese need to be watched closely. In time, on occassion and in moderation. a beer, if you really want one, shouldn't be an issue. You know what is best for you, your strengths and weaknesses, what medical advice you received and will make the appropriate decision for you. Thankfully you will not be drinking it through a straw!
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I was a big beer drinker preop. Actually took cross country road trips to sample microbrews and made my own beer a few times. Attended beer fests in several states (just missed the second largest one in the US only 60 miles from my house yesterday) and drank no less than a 12 pack/day on river trips and when camping. But postop my sleeve does not like carbonation. I could manage a couple sips here and there, but the carbonation is pretty uncomfortable. Fortunately my sleeve does like bourbon, tequila, vodka, wine, Apple Crown, twisted tea, and the random, hard to find non-carbonated hard cider. Ok, pretty much anything cold and non carbonated. (Ok, warm stuff too, like peppermint schnapps or baileys in hot chocolate). But if I do drink too much of any alcohol (like I did last night) I will get gastritis. A couple Rolaids or famotidine usually knocks it out, though.
