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I think you can still have alcohol if you want, but in moderation. I drink what I want, beer, wine, etc. But there are always alternatives to drinking. Not having some alcohol is not the end of the world. What is more important to you, healthy weight loss, or one night of drinking?
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I'm only 21+ months post-VSG, so understand I'm coming at this with that kind of WLS resume. Anyway, here's my take on your quarterly binge-drinking escapades. I will bet you aren't going to drink NEARLY as much as you used to drink at these events. You'll likely be more alcohol-sensitive, and I'm betting that your natural self-protective instincts will kick in and keep you from over-doing it, especially since you're not a regular drinker. However, and this is the good part, I don't think that drinking less would / could / should harsh your party buzz at all. More good news is you'll be with friends who won't be trying to harm you. Or I hope they won't. I think the important thing to ask yourself is -- could I still have a good time if I have 3 drinks over X hours instead of 12 drinks? Imma bet you could.
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I'm just beginning the whole process, so bare with me. And I know this sounds really stupid and am completely aware of how bad this is for me...but:) My biggest concern about having surgery is drinking after. I don't drink on a daily or even weekly basis, but probably 4 times per year have a day long binge social drinking activity ( tailgating, camping, a winter festival we go to etc). Usually is beer or hard cider and we drink a lot. Am I still going to be able to do that? It's really my only time to see my friends due to distance and children etc. Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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NO new profound, genius statement just worth repeating the obvious smoking, caffeine, alcohol, eating any one or combination, are our worst enemies i continually work with/against my demon of poor eating habits/over eating in my case help/answer to addiction...... "one day at a time" works for me kathy
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Surgery date scheduled[emoji119]????
her1981 replied to bsweetness's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
@@bsweetness Good luck. No alcohol!!! Your stomach will still be healing. I would wait at least 2-3 months. -
Not able to sleep after surgery
LipstickLady replied to Lindsey Skinner Abbott's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
This is SO absolutely normal. I have no idea why, but this was my biggest complaint for about 6 months post op. My NP says this is one of the complaints she hears most often, too, so... I balanced it out by exercising more so that my body was tired, taking a warm bath right before bed, shutting off all electronics two hours before bed, blah blah blah. None of that worked. What worked was 1/2 Xanax and/or a small glass of wine once I was cleared for alcohol. And yes, my quack doctor was fine with it. -
Alkohol....
StefanieSparklePants replied to lucja t's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Put alcohol out of your mind until you're fully healed. Lotsa dangerous ground here. Early out, alcohol can cause severe stomach inflammation, gastritis and ulcers. It will hinder your weight loss as alcohol is calorie heavy and you get drunk SUPER fast. I had champagne at nine months out and had 3 sips and was drunk. Alcohol poisoning is very real for us as it's basically hitting your intestines right away. Also, you might want to read up on transfer addiction if you're at risk for that. Very bluntly put, this surgery is hard enough when you follow the rules 100%. You dont want to throw monkey wrenches in this process. Most surgeons will tell you to wait 1 year before drinking, some will say 6 months and others will tell you to avoid it completely. Use caution. -
Are you consuming sugar alcohols? Im 10 months out and dont really have that issue anymore unless I have sugar alcohols like malitol and sorbitol.
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Watch sugar alcohols. "Sugar free" stuff has it, and they can cause stomach issues. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Congratulations!!!! Sent from my SM-G935T using the BariatricPal App Thank you!! We should be buddies.Definitely. Are you using fitbit or my fitness pal? Also there's a secret group on Facebook. Let me know. Sent from my SM-G935T using the BariatricPal App I am not using either one but I plan on buying a fit bit. I think I am in a couple facebook groups, the latest one is for June - July sleeversI'm in one for May/June. But honestly I'm thinking of leaving the group. Too many people looking for an excuse to eat whatever they want. Had someone a few weeks post op talking about drinking alcohol because it's a holiday. Sent from my SM-G935T using the BariatricPal App
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Easy Way Out.....ha!
VSGAnn2014 replied to gina171's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
It's a human inclination (not saying it's a good one, but an inclination) to want to look down on others. We're hard-wired to create and live in pecking orders. FTR, some comments in this thread reflect an inclination to look down on those who are alcoholics and drug addicts. -
How Has WLS Changed Your Social Life?
o00 replied to Alex Brecher's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
My lifestyle has changed a lot when it comes to food and nutrition and fitness just like most of us here. My friends and family have mostly been the same. I am still very much part of the same social circle. I choose to put my health and wellness first now. I make sure I put my health and fitness goals first before I go out to socialize. I keep my outings short and alcohol free. My friends have come to terms with the new me and don't bother me about eating and drinking. I feel truly blessed and am grateful. -
Society loves to kick people around. It's no longer politically correct to make fun of blind or mentally handicapped people or drug addicts or alcoholics, but no one is championing or calling foul for fat people being made fun of. Fat people are the last acceptable(according to our society anyway) people to bully, mock, shame, abuse, and ridicule despite the fact most of us did not choose to be obese any more than someone chooses to have any crippling or debilitating disease. It doesn't help than many in the medical community are still trying to perpetuate the idea that we all are just lazy and eat too much and if we just went on a diet would lose the weight, but don't because we are lazy and lack willpower. Until those misconceptions are finally taken out of the medical community and the fact that obesity is a life long disease we must battle and surgery can help us battle, then I don't see this ever going away. It's just too fun for people to kick the fat guy afterall "he did it to himself" unlike the alcoholic or the drug addict who had no choice in the matter at all! [emoji849]
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How are my early January post-sleever? Let us know how things are going with you!
shel774 replied to theladyslipper's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
I had surgery on December 29, so I think that counts as January. I am doing great and love my sleeve!! I have lost 80lbs and I am down from a size 22/24 to a 14. I am still consistently losing. I have not had any complications and no dumping. I still follow the rules. I have not introduced carbs, sugar or alcohol. I feel great!!! -
Easy Way Out.....ha!
Icantbelieveit replied to gina171's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Fat = lazy slob Drig and alcohol = poor thing probably had a rough life and needs help. Nobody cares why someone is overweight because you're just lazy. Even with studies showing sugar is even more addicting than some drugs. Sent from my SM-G930P using the BariatricPal App -
What will I NEVER be able to eat?
VSGAnn2014 replied to Mangolicious's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Just remember that eventually you probably will be *able* to eat anything. However, that will be months and months and months down the road -- after your new sleeve has fully healed. But even after your sleeve has healed, it probably doesn't mean you *should* eat anything. Which foods you can and should eat regularly depends on whether those foods nourish your body and on whether your body's and your mental responses to certain foods are healthy and don't lead to over-eating those foods. Some foods will wind up being "trigger foods" for you, and you will have to avoid or greatly minimize your use of those foods. For example, some people have problems with certain "slider foods" or alcohol or high-calorie coffee drinks long-term. Many people have problems with carbonated beverages long-term. Many people have real problems with sugary foods and other slider foods and fast foods and fried foods long-term. Again, they have to avoid or minimize those foods. If you have any kind of eating disorders or what some refer to as "food addictions," weight loss surgery will NOT *fix* those issues. If you have those challenges, you should address and resolve those issues in therapy. Some people also find twelve-step and other kinds of recovery programs helpful. Some may need to enter residential treatment programs to address severe problems. Bottom line: "Can eat" doesn't always mean "should eat." -
The alcoholic has a sort of sympathy from society, their addicted, poor thing they can't help it... Obese people have a problem relationship with food, I'll go as far as to say we addicted to it much like the alcoholic is addict to alcohol... The obese person is viewed by society as the person who can't stop eating and does not exercise.... The cure for alcoholism isn't surgery, obese gets a surgery to help with it... People can't connect those dots, no matter how much you explain.. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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I'd be willing to bet that a lot of it has to do with insurance. I do also realize that food addiction is a real thing however no one's going to have a seizure because they didn't get their Ben & Jerry's. Where is a hard-core alcoholic going through withdrawal could have life-threatening seizures. So the physical dependence on drugs and alcohol does make medical rehab a little more necessary. I too used to think that weight loss surgery was taking the easy way out. Now that I'm going through it I think it is anything but an easy way out. Sent from my SM-G900T using the BariatricPal App
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How have people responded to your weghtloss?
Kindle replied to reachbree's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
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What will I NEVER be able to eat?
Kindle replied to Mangolicious's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
For the first 4 months I couldn't tolerate lactose, plain Water or artificial sweeteners. salad and coffee were uncomfortable for about a year. But at 2 1/2 years, there is absolutely nothing I can't eat or drink. Excessive sugar, coffee or alcohol will give me gastritis, but nothing Zantac or Rolaids can't fix. Carbonation is uncomfortable so I don't go there, but I COULD if I drank real slow. But that's no fun, so that's why I Drink whiskey instead of beer. -
What will I NEVER be able to eat?
Christinamo7 replied to Mangolicious's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
at 4 weeks I was told it was safe for me to eat anything. I am, of course, low carb, high Protein, as much "real food" as possible as opposed to processed foods. I have all manner of vegetables, raw and cooked, meats, I prefer to be pretty tender and juicy. With toast (I have oat bread toast 3-4 times a week with my egg) I can not stand the crust anymore. so I just eat the middles. I have not tried alcohol yet, but per my plan it is ok - not recommended - not wise yet. I do not plan to try until the holiday time. I love wine, and whiskey - but if I find that they do not sit well with me anymore it will not be something that I worry about. I'll just use my collection for others at family meals or some friends will get some really fabulous birthday presents. I enjoy my coffee, but if I have a lot of coffee I get sour stomach. so, it's a treat a few times a week and then all is good. I was not told "no straws" and that's a good thing, because I am a clumsy clod, and so having a lid and straw is a life saver for me. I am just over 3 months out and have lost just more than 1/3 my excess weight. I also can take any medications I might need to take and I take all my recommended supplements and others that I believe to be good for general health with no problems. I can now drink my Water and liquids normally, and not have to sip. -
What will I NEVER be able to eat?
Mangolicious posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
It's 4 days until my sleeve and I'm anxious. I've been so disciplined in my week of liquid diet it's hard to believe I couldn't do this without the sleeve....but I know better. So, I'm just curious if there's anything that you can't tolerate after surgery. Not post 6 weeks, I mean once on normal food. What about alcohol? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
@@saphfyre14, As the others said, be sure to eat what your surgeon and nutritionist tell you to eat. If they haven’t told you anything yet, ask them. They should be able to give you as much information as you want. That said, your diet will probably have a lot of healthy foods and not many unhealthy ones! You will not be able to eat much volume at first, so you will need to start with the Protein foods at each meal and snack (if your surgeon and nutritionist tell you to include snacks). That might include eggs, chicken, tuna, beef, turkey, Beans, cottage cheese, yogurt, cheese, and other lean and nutritious sources of protein. You might not be able to tolerate all of those foods at first; you’ll have to see how it goes. Eventually, you can also add peanuts and nuts, but those can take longer. Vegetables come next to your meals and Snacks, since veggies are low calorie and filling. You’ll eat cooked ones first since they’re easier to tolerate. Examples include cooked carrots and green beans. It’ll probably take you a really long time to be able to eat salad. Other healthy foods to include will probably be fruit, whole grains like oatmeal, and starchy vegetables like sweet potatoes in small servings. And what won’t you be eating? Well, probably anything that’s high-calorie and low-nutrient: think sugary, processed, fatty, fried, and starchy foods. Cake, white Pasta, pizza, chips, fried chicken, and ice cream are a few examples. Alcohol is also forbidden. Many sleeve patients are able to tolerate almost everything, although you might have trouble with certain foods. Some patients include small amounts of junk food because they know they can satisfy their cravings and stay in control, while others avoid all trigger foods. Hope that gives you some idea!
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Easy Way Out.....ha!
Icantbelieveit replied to gina171's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I personally feel being overweight and eating to excess is harder than kicking drugs because you need food. You have to eat to survive. Drugs and alcohol you dont. But overweight people are always the easiest targets to attack because you cant hide weight. You can hide drinking, smoking and drugs while walking down the street, but being fat youre screwed. Sent from my SM-G930P using the BariatricPal App- 13 replies
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Why is it that when people hear that someone who was destroying their body through obesity has lost 100+ pounds with the help of surgery, some will call that a "cop out" or the "easy way out"..... But when someone who is destroying their life through alcohol abuse and gets help through an intensive, in-patient recovery program with medical professionals....how come that's perfectly okay, even laudable? Why is getting serious medical intervention for obesity treated like something to be ashamed of, when we applaud those who take similar intense intervention to drug or alcohol addictions? Aren't we all just trying to save our lives ? Sent from my iPad using the BariatricPal App
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