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Emotional Rollercoaster( can you become bipolar) after surgery.
sharonintx replied to Jess3/25/16's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Jess it's gonna get better. Understand that when you go to Mexico for surgery you are pretty much on your own post op. No support, no guidelines - nothing. It's a hard road to go down. I thought WLS would 'cure the problem'. Haha! The joke was on me. Obesity was a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. Many people turn to drugs or alcohol post op because of this very thing. In doing so you simply trade one form of self destruction for another and if you had issues with drugs before I can only imagine how hard it is to just say no. But you have to, you will, and you will get through this. That's why we call it Going Through Hell - because you don't stay there. You come out on the other side. Otherwise we'd call it Gone To Hell and Not Coming Back. You have a good life ahead of you and this period of time is what's required to get there. You can't skip this part. You can do this girl..... -
I had vsg surgery 5 weeks ago and have a trip to the races coming up, any ideas on alcoholic beverages that are not carbonated for me to drink? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Blimey! This has been an interesting read on this lovely Sunday morning, and just because Dub mentioned something on another post. It got my curiosity (OK, big standard nosey) antenna twitching! Thought that I'd add my two pennyworth for what it's worth. I'm Jinty, and I'm an alcoholic. There, I've said it. I've been sober for 12 years with, for the first six years the help of AA meetings and other recovering alcoholics. I received a lot of tough love, common sense advice and several kicks up the arse to get me on the sobriety track. I DIDN'T get mollycoddled, fuzzy love and cuddles or any other pussyfooting nonsense. That is why I am sober today. There were plenty of perfectly nice drunks who went to meetings but who expected their sobriety to come from someone else. Those people usually went back out, back on the piss and a few of them are now dead. They often thought that the old timers with long term sobriety were too tough. They would form their little groups and have their pity parties, commiserate and then pick up a drink. I saw it happen time and time again. I stuck with the winners. Those who had been around for a few years. I stayed well away from newbies who thought that they knew it all because again, many of them fell off the wagon (and back into the gutter) because of their arrogance. I have a great life because of my sobriety and it's getting even better now that I have taken drastic action to deal with my food addiction in the form of a VSG. To ensure that I keep going in the right direction, I am sticking with all you wonderful, bullying, foul mouthed, tyrannical, well informed, humorous bastards who post on this forum. You've served me well thus far and quite frankly, if it ain't broken then I ain't going to fiddle fixing it.
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Feeling alone[emoji17][emoji17]
Daniel2015 replied to befitnotskinny's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hang in there! As others have wisely pointed out, this may not be your finest hour, but it is the gateway to a happier, healthier you. Your body has endured a trauma and that will spill out. Emotions begin coming up that you don't foresee because of chemical and hormonal changes, not to mention your main coping (speaking for myself, was removed)-it necessitates new methods of dealing with life; which is new ground. The avoidance of emotions is all but gone because like an alcoholic who becomes sober, you are truly alert and awake in a new way-that takes time, training and coaching. Support groups are a great place to learn those skills. Sending you good thoughts! Daniel Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
Adult beverages after the sleeve?
leebick replied to fancypants67's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
you should go by what your doctor says, not what random people online say. Just because someone has one particular experience doesn't mean it will be the same for anyone else. The best thing to do is to go by what your doctor says, they know you and your medical history and the details of your particular procedure. At the practice where I am having my surgery, I honestly don't think it has anything to do with my medical history and the details of my particular procedure. I was told on the very first day I was there, attending a support group/info meeting, that BWLS patients are NEVER allowed to have alcohol again. Now... the surgeons weren't even there. Only one of the five NUTs was there, along with a bunch of post-surgery folks and about a dozen of those of us who were just starting our journey There is absolutely no way anyone there knew my medical history or my procedure. Heck, I hadn't even decided IF I was going to have BWLS, much less what type of surgery. I just think this practice is opposed to "wasted" calories and also cautious about the effects of alcohol on the body due to a redesigned/rerouted digestive system, so they say, "Nope, nada, never again" when it comes to alcohol. I can promise you that I'm not going through this surgery (VGS) to find ways to cheat the system, to try and eat all the crap that got me this fat without gaining weight, but I also know that when my daughter gets married or I'm at a family celebration or something of equal import, I am more than likely going to have a glass of wine or other adult beverage. I can avoid carbonated drinks if I must (although I love a good stout beer or Dark&Stormy), but I am 99% sure that I will not abstain from alcohol forever. Therefore, it's helpful to hear about the experiences of others who've already been down this path. I appreciate the opinions of those who have gone against what might be recommended as much as I do the experiences of those who stick to the straight and narrow. It's all information- not permission, not judgement, not edict- just information that's always handy to have. -
Adult beverages after the sleeve?
Myka99 replied to fancypants67's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I truly dislike the answer "talk to your team etc" like yes we know, but we are asking here for diff opinions and how other people react to having different experiences.....I was told never to have alcohol again....I actually drink causally like 3 times a year tops.....and while the first 6 months fine....when I want a cocktail I will have one..... -
Adult beverages after the sleeve?
FrankyG replied to fancypants67's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Sooooo many threads on this subject (just a few recent ones to get you started): http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/369537-beer http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/369245-alcohol http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/367526-alcohol-post-opits-possible-when-how-much http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/365478-alcohol -
Oooo interesting topic. So that's a good question to me too...CAN you drink after the sleeve? and if so...how long until you can consume alcohol?
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I'm setting myself up for failure.
garciagiss posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You guys ........ My surgery is 9 days away. 9 days. I haven't lost any weight in 2 months. I did great the first month. Ate healthy, no alcohol, no smoking , and I only lost 3 pounds... A sad 3 pounds that most said was just Water weight ;( I got so discouraged and found myself eating all the crap I was eating before . I found myself cheating and slowing going back on all the progress I had done ... I was suppose to be on my 2 week pre op diet a week ago. And here I am +5 pounds from my overall Preop diet. I am so emotionally drained. If I can't do this and control my hunger now , how will I control it after surgery? Am I setting myself up for failures ? I'm getting my sleeve in Mexico and I have been emailing my progress via email... But it's now closer and closer to my surgery date and I'm feeling a total wreck. I have not read or seen anyone not loose weight on the pre op diet . Please advise ;( Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
Sean - I followed a nearly liquid diet with some limited cheating and dropped almost 15 #s in two weeks before my surgery. Heck, the day before the surgery I broke every rule and did a pizza buffet with a friend (but severely limited what I ate).. I was afraid that was going to cost me the surgery. It was hard but I cut out all the fun foods - soda, pizza, Panda Express, Pasta, Soups, BEER, alcohol, and marijuana... and even when I traveled, I would still go to Panda Express, but get teriyaki chicken with NO sauce with white rice and drink Water. My doctor had a *very* strict diet, as I guess they get a high failure rate of people who can't lose the weight. But a lot of water, fruits & veggies did the trick for me.
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Intussusception - abdominal pain without fever or nausea
twseid58 replied to twseid58's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Let me give a follow-up to my situation. No evidence could be found in any tests that I was experiencing intussusception. Eventually, the only diagnosis that could be suggested was that there was some ulcers. The only basis for that was that I mentioned that I had gotten into the habit of drinking wine in the evenings. Altogether I had a highly acidic diet and had stopped taking Omeprazole. I stopped drinking alcohol, stopped eating a pot of chili a week, and started back on Omeprazole. A year later and I have not had any other symptoms. Over the past year I have become an avid cyclist and am in the best shape of my life. As I think about it, I don't believe the pain I was experiencing was ulceration. But I needed to remove the likelihood of that diagnosis in order for them to be able to figure out what my problem might be. On the other hand, I don't think my pain was as severe as it should have been if I did have an intussusception. I don't know, so I intend to stick with my current way of life, which is greatly improved over where I was a year and a half ago. Still really, really glad I had the gastric bypass surgery. I'm working on losing some more with a goal of another 15 lbs. so I'll reach the 200 lbs. lost goal. -
I have always been fat, hitting 275 in highschool. In college I lost a lot of weight. Simple calorie counting. I yoyoed a little but managed to be between 220 and 250. Especially as I started Drinking. It was going great until I started taking Phentermine. Which I wish I was exaggerating when I say I am lucky to have survived what that doctor did to me. Since college I have gotten back on track. It took many years to recover emotionally to the effects of the different medications also I have been alcohol free for 2 years. Cig free for 4. Managed with the help of a Pavlok bracelet to ditch sugar. (hypoglycemic, I crave that stuff bad) A year ago I was in California, doing crossfit, and paleo. got back down to 240ish. Walking 8 miles with my dog in the summer on weekends.. Moved back home with the folks away from that healthy lifestyle. Took a job at an abusive startup, quit and been doing freelancing.. and a year later now I am at 275 again. At the least I can deadlift 350 lbs, unlike me in highschool, but I am at the same 40 in waist line. I went from doing workouts like FRAN to now having a hard time with a mild hike. Sad. I even had a chart. I never missed a week, and on average I did 3.4 sessions per week over 8 months. About 115 sessions in a chain. I was looking at POSE but that is not in the US. (6 years and counting... oh FDA). The balloon in the stomach looks interesting, but I don't need a short term solution. The rest looks scary as ****. I have no interest in having half my stomach cut out. I just need help eating less. I am also not interested in anything that would cut my caloric intake to under 1400 a day. I believe doing so will only irreversibly damage your metabolism. Not to mention kill me in the gym. I guess my only option is to get the balloon as a jump start and stop making escuses to why I cannot be what I was just 18 months ago.
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Ok, not going to lie, it sucks giving up habits that we have enjoyed for many years. I weaned off Diet Mt Dew, coffee, alcohol,and then deliberately starved myself to shrink my liver so my surgery would be successful. AND IT WAS WORTH IT This isn't the easy way. It is a tool. BUT IT IS SO WORTH IT. Just saying.
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You have a good point. I'm sure the best thing to do would be to avoid alcohol as long as possible or forever, especially if you have an addictive personality. I'm hoping that I can indulge in the future at social events but cut out all of my evening glasses of wine at home. Sent from my SM-G920T using the BariatricPal App I'm with you. My days of "weekday" wine are over. I hope to enjoy a glass here and there when the time comes. Thankfully, it's just not that appealing anymore!
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You have a good point. I'm sure the best thing to do would be to avoid alcohol as long as possible or forever, especially if you have an addictive personality. I'm hoping that I can indulge in the future at social events but cut out all of my evening glasses of wine at home. Sent from my SM-G920T using the BariatricPal App
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Ok who is currently on a preop diet?!
elizabeth105 replied to Katrinakit's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi! I'm having surgery 6/15, too! Normally my surgeon only does a 2 day clear liquid diet, but since I have non-alcoholic fatty liver I'm required to do it for 10 days. I stocked up on different herbs and spice mixes to make broth interesting for 10 days. So far, so good! I'm down 11 lbs. @@oceangirlpc Don't beat yourself up, tomorrow will be better!! I have told my family that if they're eating something, don't take offense if I walk away. Someone placed bread in front of me last night, I literally passed the basket back! We're almost there -
At my first support group meeting, they had a woman who spoke about her experience with wine. She had an addictive personality, hence the eating, and after drinking 1 glass of wine with dinner, she continued to do so EVERY NIGHT until she became an alcoholic. When going to AA she found that 13 in her group were former WLS patients. Coincidence??? I don't know but I'm not getting involved in another addiction after recovering from my food addiction. I have fought too hard to get to where I am now in Pre Op.
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Things I can no longer have....
daniotra replied to jennmonterrozo's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Some of those "forever no-nos" vary by program. You will see lots of debate on here about it, so ask your doctor. Common ones include: straws, alcohol, carbonation, straight fruit juice, high-calorie liquids (smoothies!), caffeinated beverages, smoking, soft bread, chewing gum, celery sticks (chopped or de-stringed is usually OK), NSAIDs, drinking and eating at the same time (including Cereal with milk and chunky soup), high fat/high sugar products, popcorn, slider foods. That's all I can think of at moment. It's better to think of all you -can- eat (in small doses). Eventually you will be able to eat most everything. Some foods you will need to be more cautious with than others, some may not agree with you any longer. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
Wine becomes about 4 times a potent after surgery. One glass of wine will hit you like you had 4 glasses. Bar tabs are now a bargain! My doctor advised waiting at least 6 months before having any kind of alcohol. Some advise waiting a full year. One bariatric surgeon has suggested that red wine is your best choice if you are going to drink due to the calories.
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My story for those on their journey...
now2children posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I try to keep private, and sometimes that opens you up to rumors from people who do not understand. On April 29, 2015 I started a journey to better health. 45 yrs old and on multiple meds for serious health issues. I made an appt to learn about weight loss surgery. I did not want gastric bypass for personal reasons, but was planning on VSG. I learned all I could and decided I was going to try it "on my own". After all, was I really that out of control that I needed surgery to help? At what was going to be my last appt with the bariatric dr, I moved and brought out a pain (that I had been dealing with for awhile), which brought me to more tests. Needed to have surgery quickly anyway so let's go ahead with the sleeve. Surgery was 9-30-15. Everything was fine, up walking etc. On 10-1-15, during a walk, I started with difficulty breathing, slight chest pain, the most horrific experience. I had a bi-lateral PE. I was terrified. I was rushed to CICU. I owe everything to Mission Hospital rapid response team! The PE had caused right side heart damage. No one is certain that it was due to surgery, my ankles had been swollen. Why did I get a second chance? Now I am 115lbs down, still working on it, off oxygen, down 5 sizes, and am off 4 meds. I am no longer considered diabetic, no longer worry about hypertension or cholesterol. Did I take the "easy way out"? Hell NO! It's harder to deal with everything. I am an addict, food has never let me down and always there! But I AM the one in control. I AM the one counting all protein grams and carbs. I AM the one who makes the choice to work out or not. I AM doing the work. The sleeve doesn't reach up and grab the steering wheel to stop me from turning into McDonald's! It is a tool and a coach that helps me get back on the field after a stupid move. I can read, but my glasses make it easier. Same thing. I deal with my choices now, the same as an alcoholic or other addict deals with theirs. I know one certain drink or food and I would be right back out of control. People judge if you aren't the norm, and also judge if you don't conform the way they think is right. Whatever is right for you is right! I have learned so much about me over the past months and found out about more health issues I didn't know I had, because of the testing I have went through. Dropping the mic and stepping down now. -
Is your surgery a secret?
Shaydi.Laine replied to Tara1992's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I was worried about this also, but so far it's been easy, I was even able to keep it from a best friend of 23+ years. (Just to see if could get away with it. He was the one person I finally told.) Luckily the weight loss bit is one thing you wont be able to keep to yourself. That's going to be blatantly visible. (yay!) So the fact that you are on a "diet" is sort of a "duh" answer. It's also enough of an explanation for how you are eating, not drinking booze, and no one notices that I don't touch my Water at the dinner table. The "diet" I am on, as I would tell anyone, is low carb, really small portions, and no alcohol. (That last bit is gonna change, but will remain minimal. Alcohol has always stalled my diet efforts.) You can also say you are eating 6 small meals a day instead of 3 large ones and it's working. Take those leftovers with you. You will want them later Surgery or no surgery, weight loss results are achieved through our own efforts and actions. The fact is that anyone can eat around their surgery and completely blow it, not to mention the effects of the surgery will wear thin eventually. The bulk of this is on us. We're just learning all the right moves for getting it off and more importantly, keeping it off. -
You really look incredible! Stop worrying about a number on the scale or a pants size. Stop stressing and enjoy your new life! Be careful not to get obsessed with losing more - and watch the alcohol (that can derail you).
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Really anything that you can eat a lot of and never get full because they compress so small and once they hit the stomach they slide right through. Any kind of liquid.....high carb coffee drinks, milk shakes, fruit smoothies, ice cream, alcohol, etc are obvious sliders. Cookies, chips, popcorn and other "airy" foods are sliders. (They really don't take up that much space once the air is chewed out of them). Even some otherwise nutritious foods can be considered sliders if you can easily eat more than what your calorie limitations allow. For example, nuts and nut butters were a good source of fat and Protein for me early on. But I discovered they never really made me feel full and I like them so much I could easily eat a whole jar of Peanut Butter. They are no longer allowed in my house. Slider foods are especially dangerous for those with a sensitive sleeve. Dense protein can be uncomfortable and it might be a lot less painful to eat slider foods. I hear this as an excuse for poor food choices from my friend with a lapband and from a couple bypass friends a lot.
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Stomach stretching
sanjumelts replied to sanjumelts's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I drink my alcoholic beverages through a straw all the time. Best, Sanju -
I think the general rule is no drink within 30 minutes of eating - before or after. My friend takes small sips of her alcohol when we go out for dinner together - it takes her about 2 hours to finish a drink and eat a fair amount of food.
