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Obsessed with constant eating, any hope for me?
composed replied to Debbi1025's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
My surgeon told me that sleeve acts to remove part of the stomach. The stomach produces hormones including ghrelin which is a hunger hormone. So when the larger part of the stomach goes so too does the excess hunger. There's a reset of the 'weight barometer.' What's left is mental. I've not seen any discussion on experiences of childhood abuse and obesity here so far (please point me in the right direction if I've missed it.) I'm aware of a study that found half of all people seeking bariatric surgery suffered sexual abuse as children. I volunteer with a charity which supports victims of domestic abuse. Most people equate abuse to violence but it can be emotional, financial, physical or sexual. Emotional abuse leaves the biggest scars. So my guess is this: a child has less access to things like cigarettes, alcohol and drugs to handle the pain of an abusive childhood. So we use food to suppress emotions as a survival strategy. That's great because we survived! As adults it's no longer a successful strategy and we need to relearn how to handle stress in healthier and more self-compassionate ways. Undo the childhood conditioning. I'm trying to say that I think it's not simple, and there are two main areas to focus on. One is the practicalities around eating and drinking. Two is deprogramming childhood and taking full and active responsibility for our best mental welfare through learning to see new choices and loving/accepting ourselves exactly as we are. I used to use food to beat myself up or to escape painful feelings. I don't do that any more and my weight has stabilised. I'm generally at peace with the world. So that's how I know that I'm ready for surgery. Sent from my SM-A500FU using the BariatricPal App -
I am 5 days post-op gastric sleeve. I have such mixed feelings. I have been overweight for the past 15 years. I have been suffering from depression for the past 25 yrs. I am on meds but seem to depend on sweets to raise my spirits. Of course the sugar rush goes so I eat more... I was put on zyprexa and ALL of my levels were elevated. I became diabetic, hypertensive and gained 30 lbs. I came off the zyprexa but had to stay on meds for cholesterol, blood pressure, diabetes, and depression. I did lose the 30lbs. I have a niece that I love dearly. She means the world to me and what kind of example am I setting? I'm successful in my career but I'm 46 and weigh 221. Im always tired and ashamed of myself. I don't have many friends and I fear being around people who don't know me. I don't want to be known as "The girl who has such a pretty face but she should lose some weight." So I hide. I am hardly ever invited to go anywhere by my peers and it really hurts. I think I might give off the vibe that I don't want to go out. But reality is we all just want to be loved. My first fiancée just didn't work out after 9 years - he found drugs and alcohol to be more important. My 2nd fiancée cheated on me and had a child with another woman. The last one put me over the edge and I gained weight. I figure if I'm fat I won't be attractive and I won't be able to get my feelings hurt again. So I hide. I think I put forward the I'm not available vibe for plenty of people larger than me have someone in their life. I just do everything in my power to avoid being hurt again. I decided to have the surgery and went full steam ahead. I just hope I made the right decision. I hope I can handle it. Anyone have words of wisdom? Thanks Beth Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Alcohol 2 days preop
OutsideMatchInside replied to Sandy GlueStick's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Alcohol is out of your system in 8 to 16 hours max. She isn't talking about going on a black tar heroine bender before surgery. -
Alcohol 2 days preop
AvaFern replied to Sandy GlueStick's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
If by a few drinks you mean 2-3 and you're two days before surgery, you're going to be fine. If by a few drinks you mean 10-12, it probably won't kill you, but it isn't the greatest plan. If you think about it, people who go into emergency surgery for far more serious surgeries generally didn't have the option to stop drinking well in advance of surgery and assuming they survive whatever unexpected thing tried to kill them, the alcohol they consumed before surgery isn't likely going to make it any worse, unless we're talking like binge drinking in which case, all bets are off. So...a few drinks, as defined by 2-3, a few days before surgery isn't a big deal. A night of keg stands, beer bongs, and tequila shots probably isn't the best plan. -
Alcohol 2 days preop
Sophie74656 replied to Sandy GlueStick's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
is alcohol really that important that you would risk having a possible complication during surgery? -
Alcohol 2 days preop
Farcaster replied to Sandy GlueStick's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'd have to echo what pppgobbi said here. My anesthesiologist stressed with me that she didn't want me to have any alcohol in the three weeks following my pre-op consult with her. -
Alcohol 2 days preop
pppgobbi replied to Sandy GlueStick's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
No alcohol before surgery. Not good when your having anesthesia. Don't take the chance. -
Alcohol 2 days preop
trekker954 replied to Sandy GlueStick's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Drinking even moderate amounts prior to surgery could slow down recovery and weaken the immune system. Abstinence starting 3–4 weeks before surgery will significantly reduce the incidence of several serious postoperative complication. 3 - 4 weeks may seem extreme, but I would personally stop at least 2 weeks before and I have a glass of wine or two at least three days a week. While you doctor doesn't recommend a pre-op diet, which I really question, I would do it anyway. You are on this forum, you know what the norm is. You must have to know by now that you should shrink your liver . Ask yourself, do you want an easier operation/recovery or do you want to risk it? Forty eight hours just isn't enough time and you know when you drink alcohol, you tend to overeat. Most of us are on clear liquids one week pre op. -
This will not go over well... I have no two week diet to follow. My Kaiser surgeon wants only a 24 hour clear liquid diet and 3 tbsp milk of magnesia. No restrictions for the week prior at all, except no smoking. So, on Friday and Saturday before my Monday surgery, there is a huge event I'm attending. Husband has already stocked up on all the vodka for us. I will follow the Sunday diet absolutely, but I'm wondering about my drinking alcohol 48 hours prior??? I've read everything they've sent me and nothing says no booze. I will ask Friday at my preop appointment for sure, but I'd like to hear if anyone here had some drinks 2 days before their surgery? Google showed me some patients that had a "last celebratory" drink a couple days before, etc...but had anyone here had their surgeon not give that guideline or restriction? I have an idea of what I might do. Partake on Friday and maybe a bloody mary Saturday morning, then nothing the rest of the day, and of course the Clear liquids Sunday. Thank you for your input.
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My boyfriend of 4 years is thin and athletic and has been all of his life. He was so supportive when I was trying to lose weight through diet and exercise last year, but I fell of the wagon and gained it all back. He is always trying to coax me into something active whether it is a walk or a bike ride, camping or canoeing, etc. At 315 pounds I feel like I'm disappointing him when I can't do these things. He never says that but I can't help but think it. I've finally decided that surgery is my last option. A coworker mentioned our insurance pays it. So, I've been researching for a couple of weeks. (Also tried to get surgery 12 years ago and my insurance at the time denied it.) But I was super worried that my althetic significant other would be disappointed in me and not be supportive. I finally brought it up last night. He was super supportive! He did mention that any surgery is risky, but he wants me to be happy and healthy. I told him I want nothing more than to go do these fun things with him and for them to actually be fun for me too! We talked about what that would mean about having food and alcohol in the house and he's willing to help as much as he can. I feel such a relief. It's going to be at least 6 months before surgery because I need to change to a lower deductible health insurance plan. But I'm starting the process now so I can hopefully get it done in January. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using the BariatricPal App
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Who else got sleeved on the 28th of march?
GSleeve822 replied to elaina831's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Glad everyone is doing well. I am down 70 lbs. I went on vacation for a week and didn't do too well with alcohol and some of my food choices but I'm back on track now and I think those extra calories will actually help my weight loss as I'm returning to my regular eating this week. I am 40 lbs away from a normal bmi and 70 away from goal.. hope to hear from more of you! Sent from my SM-G930T using the BariatricPal App -
My first glass of wine was outstanding, then.......
katesuccess replied to Djmohr's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
That's my guess too. Shrimp is easy for even good restaurants to treat too casually and not keep it cool enough, etc. Wine stopped agreeing with me before surgery, but prosecco/champagne was fine, and so was my favorite; single malt scotch. I stayed away from all alcohol for a good year, then let myself calculate it into my food plan once in a blue moon. Amounts to maybe once every three or four months, and then only an ounce of scotch or 3 ounces wine. I count the calories as carbs, otherwise it doesn't really work on the macro counting I do on MFP. Anyway, just to say, a bit of the good stuff sits just fine, and once in a while hasn't bothered me in that way. Lets hope it was just a fluke of tummy trouble! Ick...ouch! -
Well I guarantee your weight gain is from Coke and wine and whatever other empty calories you are consuming, not from the steroids. Once I was maintaining below goal I have stopped any regains immediately if I pop even 1 pound above my bounce range. 2 things have worked for me.... 1) full on preop liquid protein "preop" diet. Three protein shakes/day and unlimited leafy green veggies. At least 80g protein and 100oz water. Usually only takes a few days of this to drop several pounds and to curb any carb cravings that have taken hold. Or 2) go back to just protein and veggies. Still the same protein/water goals but my overall calories are higher and it may take a couple weeks to drop a few pounds. If you cut out all refined carbs (including Coke, alcohol, pasta, bread, rice, etc) and just go back to the same basics that helped you lose during those first 6-12 months you WILL lose those 40 pounds. It may take several months, but isnt that why we had surgery? To lose weight and keep it off? And remember You've got your sleeve forever. Let your sleeve do what it does (portion control) and you do what you need to do (make smart choices) and it will work.
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Weight loss milestones/how to celebrate?
VSGAnn2014 replied to doyouhear's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Ooooh! * Clothes - something pretty special * Massage - a truly great masseuse can change your life * Facial - or even better, a package of facials * Spray tan - a good one, not an orange one * Jewelry - never a wrong choice * New makeup - Sephora is the girl palace * Great bottle of wine - if you're into that and if you're allowing yourself any alcohol yet * Kayaking / canoeing trip - 'tis the season if you live in the northern hemisphere I could go on and on and on. Congratulations, by the way. You're doing great. -
Lost 40 pounds since my surgery... it is hard... I binge all the time... then not hungry then feel the crave then back to normal... I try different thing but it is hard to keep me away from sugar... I was a food lover... then I feel it is no flavor anymore... I feel guilty of eating because I fear to take back my weight. I feel the people will judge me if I gain weight.. I took alcohol twice while I was not supposed to... I wanted to Celebrate my b-day. .. it doesn't take show a lot... Sent from my SM-N915W8 using the BariatricPal App
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How long did it take from your first consultation until surgery day?
OutsideMatchInside replied to ML573663's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Well, not everyone was eating whatever. I gave up sugar, soda, and alcohol years before surgery and the weight wasn't coming off. The post op diet isn't very different from how I was eating before, except now I have portion control without feeling like I am starving. Even though I went from first visit to surgery in a few weeks it took months of planning. I work for myself. I spent hours at the beginning of the year picking a plan that covered surgery the easiest with the least out of pocket, which meant higher monthly premiums. Then I started the ball rolling with a new primary doctor. It took months of prior planning to make it smooth so it happened at the time of year that was best for my business. If I did the long 6 months plan at Northwestern or Washington University, I would have never been able to have surgery. It would have taken so much time from my business, I wouldn't have been able to afford surgery. My time is money and time is the most expensive thing on the planet. Once lost it can never be replaced. I didn't have time to waste and a lot of people don't either. -
How long did it take from your first consultation until surgery day?
Jadane_dm replied to ML573663's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
So my surgeon told me they basically require you to wait so they can pick out the weak basically the people who can't handle the process and be successful in the pre op weight loss and also so the insurance company can save money. I agree it isn't right. However at first I looked at the six months as a burden but it gave me time to contemplate if I was ready to make such a major life change, and it gave me time to make the lifestyle change. I'm just thinking of people who have their surgery within a few weeks of their first consult. It must be really hard to go from eating whatever you want, smoking, drinking and whatever else you do, to being completely restricted for the rest of your life. I'm happy that I got these 6 months to slowly decrease my alcohol intake, stop smoking hookah, and change my eating habits. It would be so hard to stop cold turkey. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
I drank about 3 months after-- not a lot, but I felt 100% normal. I had one Rum and Diet Coke at a wedding and then last week I had a small margarita. I haven't had anything I couldn't tolerate like other people so I say use your cues. One drink will not ruin your weight loss efforts and for me has helped me feel like I am changing my lifestyle rather than being on this 1 year diet and then the gate open after a year. I think you have to know your slippery slope foods/drinks. For me I can't eat chips and ice cream because I can eat a lot with my sleeve... but alcohol--nah, just one every month works with my life just fine.
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I have my best friends birthday -going out to the city 10 days before. And then my hubbys birthday the night before. All happening during my 2 week liquid diet. For me those are important events I'd normally have food be a must have or important part of the day. Since I know my priority is my health right now I'm taking precautions. I'm actually more nervous about the friends birthday outing since she doesn't know I'm having surgery. But I plan to bring a bottle with a premix Protein drink in my purse and sip on that and get a light soup and salad no dressing or extras and just slowly pick at that. I will avoid alcohol though since that's a big no no for my liver. God I hope my willpower is as brave as my words. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Dr. Macik was my surgeon too! I go see him tomorrow for my two weeks post op. He's awesome! Pre-op is just low carb/high Protein diet and no alcohol. One thing I also like about Dr Macik that a lot of other surgeons don't do, is he have the nurses put a binder on you before you go home. It's really great for the stomach swelling and makes you feel better all around. I had surgery 7a.m. and was in the hospital two nights. Best wishes! VSG 6/17/2016
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My nut said it is good and it has a lot less sugar than regular pb and lots less fat. Just because sugar is second ingredient doesn't mean it is 50% sugar. It is 1g of sugar and totally worth it. I am over the sugar alcohol and antificial flavor crap so with unflavored whey I think this is awesome. But to each their own it can be hard to find pure peanut powdered. This is a nice alternative. Beware costco version that has more sugar and some sort of additive.
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Weight gain, looking for meaningful discussion/mutual support not lectures!
Oak Park Lorena replied to Oak Park Lorena's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
@@SleeveSoon yes, I think that' a wise strategy! In addition to some lovely IPAs, I also have a nice stash of lambics that are delicious and pretty low alcohol/low calorie. It was a long, tough winter for me being laid up with the foot surgery and a house full of BA Russian Imperials! I talked to my surgeon extensively about beer and it being part of a healthy post-surgical diet, it definitely can be, just have to be a bit more careful and definitely keep off it when I don't have exercise to counter-balance! Thanks for the post and cheers! -
You can actually celebrate without alcohol. You don't actually need it to enjoy yourself
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I'm not much of a drinker to begin with, but I'll admit that I had a sip of wine at 5 weeks out because it was my birthday. It kinda burned a little going down but otherwise did nothing. It was one sip of wine, no need to slam me. I had my first real drinks at 3 months out. I had 3 glasses of wine over the course of an evening. Guess what.. no difference at all in how I was affected. Nice little buzz but I wasn't falling down drunk, blacking out, or acting stupid. I haven't tried hard booze yet, but I can say from experience that wine affects me exactly the same way it did pre-surgery. If I want to get stupid drunk on wine, I'll have to drink a considerable amount of it. Fortunately I have no desire to get stupid drunk (or pile in all those extra calories.) As for weight loss, drinking is bound to have an adverse effect. Calories aside, the body will burn alcohol before anything else, so while you are burning alcohol, you aren't burning through those evil carbs or, in the absence of carbs, attacking the fat. All that said, I WILL be drinking 4th of July weekend and I might maybe possibly even choose to get drunk. If I gain weight over the weekend, it will be my own fault and I will pay for it and fix it. Even we sleevie peeps gotta live a little once in a while. Again, I'm not much of a drinker in any case, but I would say that anyone who has a great liking for alcohol should just avoid it entirely.
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@ - I do catch your drift! Your story helps me to stick with the decision to not tell people. You are so right about how they will be watching everything that goes into my mouth too. I hate that. And you're right - that does NOT help an emotional eater to succeed. My husband and I were just saying the other day how it seems like people often try to get you to fail because they feel threatened and insecure. We were talking about it in regards to alcohol as some drinkers at his workplace got a recovered alcoholic to start drinking again, on purpose! Idiots! And my 18 year old son chimed in that he feels it too. He decided to give up sugar recently. He doesn't have a weight problem, but realized it doesn't make him feel good. People are on his case about it. Why?! I think because it makes them feel bad. It is sad. Why can't we all support each other in this crazy game of life!
