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Alcohol and the band is a funny thing. Be careful when you decide to experiment with it. It now packs a punch. I went to Vegas recently with my DH and went to an awesome tower overlooking the city for drinks. I had two small martinis. I don't remember going down the elevator or leaving that place, or riding in the taxi. That's scarey. I wasn't like that prior to a band, so BE CAREFUL.
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Jul, I am so sorry for your story. It brought tears to my eyes about your brother! It sounds a lot like my situation. I have an older brother (11 years, by her first husband) and he was heavily into drugs and alcohol. I'm sure he still lights up every now and then, but he has managed to turn his life around. He left VA when he was 20 and she didn't follow him! I move to TX - where she says she'll NEVER live, and she followed me! I'm sure she would again, if I moved away. I can say that *most of the time* my mom isn't really mean for the sake of being mean. She used to be, but she's calmed down a lot. I think she just wants to be taken care of, but doesn't really know how to interact with people. Although, she has told me before that she should never have had me. She was older and she and my dad got along great until I was born. Then, he still wanted to go out and she had to stay home. I think she feels she sacrificed for me, now it's my turn to reciprocate. I don't feel that way - now, but I did for a long time. The other day she was stressed over my aunt's visit and she got so mad at one of my dogs she through something at her. I gathered up our stuff and left and my DD said, "I can't believe she threw something." I said, "oh, I believe it!" When I was a kid, she'd grab anything that was near her and throw at me. Shoes, books, a plant once! She had a temper! Now she's just kinda pathetic. Since I told her being bitchy to me wasn't acceptable, she's been much better. I think I just need to keep her behavior on a short leash and stay in control. When I start trying to be the daughter and put her in control is when things go to hell. She's not a fit parent - never was and never will be. Good luck with you staying strong. Do you feel you'll call them again, or are you done forever? If they contacted you, what would you do?
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Good luck Glou..., I wasn't strong enough to break up with my alcoholic toxic father until he died and now there is peace! Take care Nancy.
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the 'why can't you just lose the weight normaly' question...
pendulum replied to pendulum's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
wow. love all the PASSION in this group (guess you gotta put that former food passion somewhere eh?) as to the comment, this is my folks....part of there job IS to make us crazy eh? -little side note here- if this (weight loss) were SO easy ....well I WROTE a healthy cookbook ("No More Fat Bears, a healthy guide and cookbook), taught healthy cooking and have a genuine culinary degree.....easy as um...pie. -as to the voices calling- when I was in a kitchen I told folks it was like a alcoholic working in a bar.... there was food EVERYWHERE....nibble here and there and here and there....culinary school was like a fantasy! (rule- in B&P (baking and pastry) you gain 3-5 lbs, I gained 5-10). I would hurt from eating after class.... I even have a one year chip from OA here somewhere.. as to the smile and nod reply- I like that. just say thanks and let it pass (the ultra skinny boss is a good case, she can eat a moose and not gain weight.... yet I am sure she has her own challenges) so... you folks are awesome...thanks one day closer to my consult with Dr Daly.... PenNdulum -
Red wine works for me, some of the whites are too crisp and irritate my stomach, and margaritas are a little rough for my band as well. So take it very slow to see how you do. Oh, beware that the alcohol hits you faster because there's not much in your stomach and you're not eating while drinking!!
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My husband is also thin and loves me fat or thin which is great. I look forward to the day when I actually weigh less than him! I don't regret it. Glad you're committed but it will be harder than you think. I see a lot of people on this forum who seem to have had unrealistic expectations going. I see complaints about "only" losing 15 pounds in their first month, etc. I would suggest you start making gradual changes now. Find Protein shakes you like. Personally, I see Protein Shakes as a daily staple for the next 2 years. Give up carbonated drinks, caffeine, and alcohol. Make sure you aren't drinking 45 minutes before and after your meals. There is a lot to get used to but I know it's totally worth it.
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Moving right along and a little terrified!
carolk36 replied to carolk36's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi DaronB, My psych eval was pretty much them wanting to know if I had plenty of support before they would approve the surgery. There was a 100 question survey where they looked for areas in my life that might be triggers (too high, too low) that would prevent me from succeding, such as alcoholism or very poor self esteem. My counselor was very easy to talk to and everything on their end was approved. Good luck to you! -
If your drinking is causing problems--and from your post it is--perhaps you should give AA a try. It is free and they are all dealing with addiction. You didn't mention anything about getting drunk, but you are relying on alcohol in an unhealthy way and that is a drinking problem. Anyone who has beaten addiction to anything (food included) will tell you that relapse is a place you usually go through on the path to recovery/health. There is no shame in having a problem.....as long as you don't let it steal anymore years from you. Best of luck.
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I say dump the alcohol and food and go back to the Sex....It burns alot of calories and is an enjoyable gratifing exercise. Then go back to eating small portions and make sure you get your Protein first...then your fruits and veggies. But stay away from the booze as was said earlier straight sugar and that causes weight gain like non other. Make sure you get your liquids in and start making your yougurt smoothies again, the boyfriend will love them and they are good for you both! Good Luck in your continued weight loss, I know you can do it!
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I was just wondering if you are newly banded and if you have good restriction. The reason I ask is because I used to drink almost every night and once I got filled and finally had restriction (6 fills) I am not able to drink. The alcohol burns my stomach and I always throw up from it. I am probably too tight but since I am losing weight and had to give up drinking I am sticking it out!
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It's the obvious answer and one that your inner voice doesn't want to hear.. BUT... here it is... STOP DRINKING! I know... easier said than done... but you OWE it to yourself to do so through whatever means necessary. As other posters have said, there is AA. If you're not a big fan of AA, I recommend seeking a therapist who specializes in Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT) and ONLY CBT. This type of therapy focuses on your self-talk and the ways that distorted thinking affects our lives. It is EXTREMLY effective and insurance companies love it because significant results are often shown in 10 sessions or less. Congratulations for recongizing that alcohol is an issue that is affecting your weight loss and wanting to do something about it. After all, admitting that you have a progem is 9/10ths of the journey towards overcoming it! Remember to tell yourself daily that you WILL be successful and that NOTHING will stand in your way!
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I had surgery on July 17th this year. I didnt really follow the post surgery diet. (I know bad!) I recieved my first fill august 20th, where I weighed 245. I have religiously worked out since then, 5 times a week for an hr everyday.. im very athletic and do bootcamp classes, run atleast a mile everyday or the tredmill! Also, I've been eating leancuisine meals religiously through out the weekday. breakfast- oatmeal & apple (200 cal) Lunch- Lean cusine (250 cal) Dinner- Lean Cusine (300 cal) and I usually eat 1 cup cottage cheese through out the day. So like 800 cals a day. I do have a cheat day on saturdays but i never go crazy.. just let my self drink alcohol. lol Also, I need a fill but kinda broke right now. (I can't wait!!) I have changed my life style so much!! Its awesome! Although, I weighed 231.6 this past Saturday morning. I cheated over the weekend drank/ate alot.. Today I weighed 237!!! WTF Its been like 3 months and ive only lost 10 LBS!! How are all of yall losing so much weight?? I dont get it! What am I doing wrong?! Cheating one day a week should NOT make me gain that much.. im sure its Water weight and ill prob be like 234 tmrw. But still thats only 11 lbs down! HELP ME PLEASE!!! Amanda, July 17-surgery ( 250 ) August 20- first fill (245) Current- 235
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What am I doing wrong!!?
honk replied to Amanda-7/17/10's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yes, lean Cuisine has a lot of salt but I would be more concerned with the carbs. Most of the frozen dinners have rice, potato, or Pasta. So you could be getting way to many carbs for the amount of Protein. Sorry but the booze has to go. If someone said they were on a diet but ate 3 ice cream cones every Friday and Saturday night you'd think they were wasting their time on a diet. Admittedly I can say this easily because alcohol means nothing to me. If you gave me the choice of a rum and coke and a snickers bar there would be no contest. Great job on your exercise program that is a huge part of the battle. -
My surgery was jan 28 and I'm scared to drink alcohol, I'm waiting until At least 6 months. Enjoy your drink if you decide to have one!
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I would love to hear about your vacation adventures this year. I'm always looking for new places to explore. I'm home from a memorable 25th anniversary road trip with my husband. ( 8 days in a car and we did not kill each other ) Route 66, Las Vegas, Grand canyon and Tombstone. Indulged in alcohol and expensive restaurants. Still in love with my man! Enjoyed a pool party in Las Vegas. I was comfortable showing skin with the help of a few cocktails. Our anniversary dinner was at a french restaurant. I had escargots for the first time. Hiked areas of the grand canyon. A six pound gain in 8 days. I'm kind of shocked that was all I had gained. I was very naughty. My next trip, I hope will be a bit unusual and away from tourists.
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My Mom was all for me getting the LapBand until..........
Peanutband replied to Rdy4ANewLife's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I too been doing a lot of research on Lapbanding. I never heard anything like this before. My Phsy person told me that I could not drink any Alcohol. I would not worry about this at all. -
Are "Food Funerals" normal/okay?
suepro replied to crazygoose's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Very odd behaviour for your surgeon to try and use scare tactics. Most surgeons will explain why you should adopt good long term eating habits. I had a dentist once who to me that if I didn't have the treatment he recommended that all my teeth would fall out. Needless to say I found a new dentist. Back to your original question about whether people have a last food binge, I am not on my pre op diet for another week and am going out on Saturday with a group of friends who don't know about my surgery and I will eat as I normally would. My stomach hasn't yet been reduced in size so I am viewing it as my last supper before my new life. When I was banded I lost and maintained all excess weight for 5 years and had no problem with going to restaurants and eating on plan. I stopped drinking alcohol and carbonated drinks back and have never regained that habit. Post surgery, tastes alter and the things I missed were things like cherry tomatoes, grapes and various other fruit and veg. I did not miss carbs. My surgical team for my bypass have emphasised, healthy eating, long term, small portions, Protein first, then veggies and very little refined carbs. Good luck to you x Sent from my SM-G920F using the BariatricPal App -
Reason #2016 for surgery
WLSResources/ClothingExch replied to okiegirl1980's topic in Pre-op Diets and Questions
It speaks well of your prospects that, despite no requirement, you chose to lose weight. Your mind is in a good place: You're serious. It goes without saying, which shan't stop me, that cutting out alcohol and the rest is smart. What raises a question is your saying that you're logging everything, but no word about what you are logging apart from the shakes. Sad to say, it is easy for counterproductive edibles to be going down your gullet. Consider an appt with the practice's RD to review a week or two of food logs. S/he can make suggestions for improvement. It's impressive that you chose to work on this. It probably makes you an exception. Although my bariatric practice had a loosey-goosey requirement (my insurance plan had none), my own surgeon told me that she didn't care whether I lost weight before surgery. A fool, I thought, "Oh, good, I'll start after." Three weeks, prior, however, it occurred to me that, if I were serious, I'd start immediately. I dropped 11 lbs which the surgeon noted aloud in the OR. This is not to say that, like you, I'm impressive, but that it told me I was ready for the long haul. You'll be fine. -
It speaks well of your prospects that, despite no requirement, you chose to lose weight. Your mind is in a good place: You're serious. It goes without saying, which shan't stop me, that cutting out alcohol and the rest is smart. What raises a question is your saying that you're logging everything, but no word about what you are logging apart from the shakes. Sad to say, it is easy for counterproductive edibles to be going down your gullet. Consider an appt with the practice's RD to review a week or two of food logs. S/he can make suggestions for improvement. It's impressive that you chose to work on this. It probably makes you an exception. Although my bariatric practice had a loosey-goosey requirement (my insurance plan had none), my own surgeon told me that she didn't care whether I lost weight before surgery. A fool, I thought, "Oh, good, I'll start after." Three weeks, prior, however, it occurred to me that, if I were serious, I'd start immediately. I dropped 11 lbs which the surgeon noted aloud in the OR. This is not to say that, like you, I'm impressive, but that it told me I was ready for the long haul. You'll be fine. I am training myself now how to eat as though I have had WLS already. I start w. protein first on my plate, 2-4oz depending on the healthful value of it, then veggies. Carbs even fruit are a snack or combined w. a protein like snack. I do think my main issue is that I still am learning to have small meals through out the day. I end to lightly graze during the day but really still eat most of my calories in the evening. From what my Dr said this is most likely how I became obese in the first place and how many people become obese. I do not binge I just have dinner and then a snack before bed instead of just eating dinner and breaking up the meals through out the day. Most of my exercise is during the day also. I sit on a balance ball for 20 mins several times a day instead of my regular desk chair. I am serious. I have serious dreams for the future and it will be super hard to accomplish those with a 100 extra lbs. on me. I do not like having my time wasted. I refuse to waste the time of the individuals that are helping me through this process. I have also wasted enough of my families lives not sharing with them the hidden me. I appreciate all the positive energy that people put out on this site. I hope that others gain as much insight as I am.
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first, alcohol is a lot of empty calories. Second, they want to try to avoid transfer addiction. Unfortunately, developing alcoholism after WLS is supposedly not that rare. that said, most surgeons do allow occasional social drinking (like one drink!) after a certain amount of time. I had to wait a year. Now I probably have three glasses of wine a year - and it hits me FAST!
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I am 5 days post-op gastric sleeve. I have such mixed feelings. I have been overweight for the past 15 years. I have been suffering from depression for the past 25 yrs. I am on meds but seem to depend on sweets to raise my spirits. Of course the sugar rush goes so I eat more... I was put on zyprexa and ALL of my levels were elevated. I became diabetic, hypertensive and gained 30 lbs. I came off the zyprexa but had to stay on meds for cholesterol, blood pressure, diabetes, and depression. I did lose the 30lbs. I have a niece that I love dearly. She means the world to me and what kind of example am I setting? I'm successful in my career but I'm 46 and weigh 221. Im always tired and ashamed of myself. I don't have many friends and I fear being around people who don't know me. I don't want to be known as "The girl who has such a pretty face but she should lose some weight." So I hide. I am hardly ever invited to go anywhere by my peers and it really hurts. I think I might give off the vibe that I don't want to go out. But reality is we all just want to be loved. My first fiancée just didn't work out after 9 years - he found drugs and alcohol to be more important. My 2nd fiancée cheated on me and had a child with another woman. The last one put me over the edge and I gained weight. I figure if I'm fat I won't be attractive and I won't be able to get my feelings hurt again. So I hide. I think I put forward the I'm not available vibe for plenty of people larger than me have someone in their life. I just do everything in my power to avoid being hurt again. I decided to have the surgery and went full steam ahead. I just hope I made the right decision. I hope I can handle it. Anyone have words of wisdom? Thanks Beth Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Go to the seminar because it may help you decide. When I attended there were maybe 20 folks at mine. At least 3 stood up an left when the NUT said you may never have alcohol AGAIN, and at least 5 stood up and left when they talked about hair loss. A little dramatic yes, but it will weed out those who do not want to put any effort into their life changes.
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If you could go back and talk to the "over weight" you before Surgery..
Mkatielyn79 replied to Elode's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
Can you drink alcohol at all after the surgery or ever? I like to drink and fear that part of it? -
I too have had binging/eating dreams since my surgery. I have heard that alcoholics and addicts have similar dreams about using their drug of choice. Makes me happy that I did this, because I truly believe that food is an addiction as well. Its great to have another support place! __________________ Originally posted at www.lapbandtalk.com
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I wonder if the "quick drunk" thing is more common in RNY patients since the pyloric valve is bypassed. Liquids go directly into our intestines (and right into our blood stream). I know alcoholism is a risk with any WLS, but the rapid intoxication may be more of an issue with RNY. I don't know this for a fact, though...
