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Alex Brecher can you help?
missengineer replied to Unbridled's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I just don't believe on passing the responsibility to someone else. As an individual, it is one's responsibility make better food choices and resist the impulse. It's not someone else's responsibility. I have seen plenty of commercials about healthy foods and getting healthy meals in the mail ready to eat or cook. What has that changed? From what I remember nobody put a gun to my head to make me eat the unhealthy stuff I did and get me to the point where I needed WLS surgery. I'm pretty sure so was the case for everybody else. For alcoholics, not all the PSA in the world is going to make them go to AA and kick the addiction to the curve. They have to hit bottom and have the awareness to realize they have a problem. So it is not on the TV but on the individual's behavior and mental state. Otherwise, there shouldn't be thin people. Sent from my SM-G930R4 using the BariatricPal App -
Alex Brecher can you help?
missengineer replied to Unbridled's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I imagine that it is hard for people to see food given some of the food addictions people have. Not everyone is that way, I have no problem seeing those commercials. They don't entice me to eat. I want a healthier life and I made a commitment to myself to succeed. I don't think it's a bad idea. But should we stop having ads about alcohol because there are alcoholics out there? I have yet to see an ad for AA on TV. Sent from my SM-G930R4 using the BariatricPal App -
Sounds like you are using some harm reduction techniques that feel manageable and good for you. Wish you the best of luck and want to say that you may also find it really helpful to seek individual therapy with a person or agency that works with these types of approaches. AA generally only works with an abstinence-based approach and people who aren't ready or don't want to use this approach can often slip back into patterns they aren't comfortable with because of the feelings this may evoke. I say this as a therapist who works with people with substance and alcohol use disorders and have had experiences with AA, NA and CMA.
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Late June Sleeve Buddies?
chycky replied to Maggie143's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Every program is definitely different! My doc released me to full food at 2 weeks, some programs require liquids for a month post-op. I don't really understand no alcohol for a year, though? Is it for weight loss purposes? Our dietitians are very strict, but they're for guidance in my world, they don't tell me what I can and can't do, only my MD does that. I've been advised by our dietitians to use fake vegetable Protein, to use aspartame, to use only non-fat dairy and on and on. There's also been quite good advice, but I take what makes sense to me and leave the rest. I actually get a lot of advice and support from my case manager, a successful 9-year RnY patient. She's been there, done that on so many situations and is a wealth of info. I cherish her Definitely an area with lacking consistency. My nut does not approve of veg based protein and supports fat and dairy. No alcohol at beginning is mostly because of healing and limited space being needed for protein and Water. After one year, they have cited the growing concern with cirrhosis and liver disease for bariatric patients and increased alcoholism. -
Late June Sleeve Buddies?
ShelterDog64 replied to Maggie143's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Every program is definitely different! My doc released me to full food at 2 weeks, some programs require liquids for a month post-op. I don't really understand no alcohol for a year, though? Is it for weight loss purposes? Our dietitians are very strict, but they're for guidance in my world, they don't tell me what I can and can't do, only my MD does that. I've been advised by our dietitians to use fake vegetable Protein, to use aspartame, to use only non-fat dairy and on and on. There's also been quite good advice, but I take what makes sense to me and leave the rest. I actually get a lot of advice and support from my case manager, a successful 9-year RnY patient. She's been there, done that on so many situations and is a wealth of info. I cherish her -
Late June Sleeve Buddies?
chycky replied to Maggie143's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Wow! I was told no alcohol for a year, but I really can't imagine trying to drink something like that even though I have had no real nausea or food problems thus far. -
@@GeekyChicLa Are you getting the sleeve also? Monday-Friday I have my food pretty much prepared and on hand while I'm at work, I'm pretty much routine during the week. On the weekends there has been times when I forget to eat or have to remember to eat because I'm running around like a crazy person. I've learned to carry a Protein bar with me for those times. The only food that gave me trouble was beef and broccoli from a Chinese restaurant, I will never eat it again. I believe it was just too tuff and I didn't chew it well enough. I was in pain for a few hours even after it came back up. I have had no problem with spicy foods, I don't eat a lot of it but when I have there where no issues. My advice on alcohol is to make that one drink last the evening. Just taking sips here and there it goes right to my head. I woke with one hangover since my surgery and it was not fun at all. That was on 2 and half glasses of wine. I remember one of my first posts on this site was me asking how to get enough Water in each day when all I can do is sip sip sip. Someone told me to take a gulp , go ahead it won't hurt me. Sure enough it didn't hurt me lol and I was able to get my water in for the day (I even drink throu a straw ) So a lot is trial and error, take a taste and see how you do. You will find what works and what doesn't. Also things are just very different now, things that I thought I were really going to miss or that I couldn't have anymore are really not a big deal, Food just doesn't excite me anymore, I much rather fix a huge meal for a lot of people and watch them enjoy it. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Late June Sleeve Buddies?
ShelterDog64 replied to Maggie143's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I've had a little beer and a little hard cider, maybe about 3 oz of each, with no issues. My doc told me that I can have beer, wine or cider (in moderation of course) but no liquor. I did try a little white wine about a week ago and it really burned going down. I think I'll wait a while before I give it a try again. All alcoholic beverages are high in sugar carbs, that's why I'm being very cautious with them, but my life is full of social situations where everyone has a glass of wine or a beer, so I'm happy to be able to have a little of either :-) -
Late June Sleeve Buddies?
susie66 replied to Maggie143's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Next week will be my first real social test; I will be 4 weeks post op and am attending an industry conference. I will be around buffets, Snacks, diet cokes etc. Every evening will also have cocktail parties/dinners. Have any of you tried alcohol yet? I am planning to take Protein shakes with me and am not overly concerned about the food---I am worried about being tired mid day and drawn to the diet coke (kryptonite for me) but am wondering if I can have a cocktail. -
Question? When did you start drinking alcohol? I literally have a few drinks a year and we are going camping and wondering if it would be OK to have a few drinks..
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I am an alcoholic in recovery this time about 2 years. I encourage you to go to AA. It's free and readily available. You are the only one that can make the decision. Sent from my SM-G925V using the BariatricPal App
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Spouse unable to deal with changes
sc101071 replied to hbrhonda's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I know it's difficult for me sometimes to be good when my wife decides to diet. When she became pregnant it was difficult to cut back my alcohol and sucked that we couldn't both belly up at a bar like we used to. I still very much loved my wife. Maybe you focus more on your own intake and let him focus on his own. Sounds like he was supportive since he was there with you to get the surg and was considering it himself. Maybe you find you have a hubby 40 lbs overweight that still very much loves you. I'd go to Vegas. You battle the temptation, you got the tool. I would be a little more generous when he slips. He doesn't have the tool. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App -
If you feel the need to drink everyday chances are you have an issue with drinking. During my adventure last year with my weight loss support group, we discussed addiction. Drugs and alcohol being common but not limited to food, sex, gambling, heck even shopping can be an addiction. Some think you have to be down and out in order to resemble or be classified as someone with an addiction, and that's far from true. If you find yourself wanting to stop and can't GET HELP A.A is a good start even talking to your doctor might help... Our private and public health care system here in CA offer outpatient support to those who just need a little more motivation. There are those who have to be hospitalized just because they would die without the next drink. One should not wait that long. I hope you find some help as soon as possible... Just remember you are accomplishing and overcoming major obstacle that some won't ever be able too... Don't take your new life for granted:)
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Your post was incredibly brave and admitting and accepting you have a problem is the hardest thing to do. I deal with a food addiction but I also have a mother that is an alcoholic. She never wanted to do anything about her problem and to live through the devastation of it personally was one of the hardest things. I will say it is one heck of a beast so I wouldn't suggest going it alone. You need someone that has been there done that. That's kinda what this place is for us. I would suggest going to some type of group meeting having a sponsor is the best thing you can do.
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Thank you for your honesty and sharing. As others have said, you do not need to do this alone. AA, a counselor or therapist, your physician, and recovering alcoholics can all be a tremendous help. You do not have to face it alone.
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Thank you for your post. I hope you will continue to let us know what's happening and how you're dealing with this new affliction. Like obesity, alcoholism is something many people have overcome. "Recovering" from our specific afflictions is something we have to do every day. It isn't fair. But it's what it is. The good news is that we are allowed to choose how we respond. Sending you my very, very best wishes. Ann
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I have known someone that developed an alcohol addiction after weight loss surgery. He spoke about no longer being able use food to numb his pain and turned to alcohol to numb his pain. Since he was familiar with how Overeaters Anonymous works he quickly got into Alcoholics Anonymous and was successful. I would seek experienced help if I couldn't change myself. This is serious. Best wishes!
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Take it from someone who likes alcohol... Don't do it lol... My cousin had her surgery done 13yrs ago and says she is still a cheap date after a glass of wine and doesn't realize it until to late sometimes. Sent from my Z970 using the BariatricPal App
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I agree, although I cannot relate to alcoholism, but addiction is addiction, and please get help. If not a psychologist, at least go to AA, get a sponsor, someone who has gone through it, good luck, gt HELP, please
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@@Proud2BMe It makes me sad to read this! I'm sorry you're going through a difficult time. Thankfully you admitted this before it got any worse. Alcohol detox is dangerous. Please reconsider getting professional help - at least to detox. Whatever you do - please take care of yourself!!! You're in my prayers!!
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Well, it's been a while since I posted here. I thought I would come clean and admit that I've developed an alcohol addiction. I knew the risks but I never thought it would happen to me. For the past month I've been drinking every day, mostly whisky. I drink first thing upon waking up and then hit a few shots each hour. I've been drinking at night until I pass out. It started because of tooth pain. I had some left over lortabs and was using those but when those ran out I was still in pain. So I turned to alcohol. Previously, I only drank when I went out on Fridays and Saturday, if I went out at all. So I'm officially hooked now. And alcohol effects me completely differently after surgery than before. Before just one single drink would leave me flushed and stupified. Today I can drink like a gallon (over-estimation) and be fine. I no longer get hot or flushed from drinking and it takes a lot to make me drunk. I think the surgery effected my metabolism somehow. Anyway, I'm living proof that this can happen to those of us who have had the surgery. The only "good" news is that I haven't gained any weight. That actually surprised me. But I guess I haven't been eating much. Then again, I haven't lost any weight either. I'm still 14 lbs away from my goal weight. I thought about getting professional help but my friends think I don't need it because I haven't been drinking like this for long. They want me to taper off. I have been drinking like 5 or 6 shots before work and my best friend says to slowly taper it off to just one shot before work before trying to cut it out completely.
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Hi all - I'm a 28 y/o F. I've been obese my whole life and over the past 5-7 years I've hovered around 200lbs. My BMI is just about 40 and I have no comorbidities. My GW is 130. I have my first appointment in the end of August - 6 weeks of waiting! And I made the appt in June! I've done a LOT of research and thinking and I think I want to pursue WLS. I think it's the only way I can really get the weight off. I checked my insurance and on paper I'd qualify. However, because my BMI is (only) 40, I'm otherwise perfectly healthy and believe it or not I DO exercise 3x/week and eat well, even cut out soda and alcohol over a year ago and haven't lost an ounce for it. I'm SO afraid they'll say I'm not a good candidate because "I'm not fat or sick enough" or "I don't have THAT much to lose". That they'll just tell me I need to be more diligent about exercise or whatever my PCP has already been telling me for years. I'm putting a lot of stake into this appointment and I just don't want to get my hopes up if I'm just going to be denied. I desperately need some help (which is hard for me to admit), and I'm so scared I won't get it. Anyone else have a similar experience? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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I have bad PMS - mood swings, cravings, bloat, the works. I *always* gain weight right around my period so I try to stay off the scale until the last day of my period or later. Just not worth the discouragement! Also try to consider if you consumed food that was saltier than usual the day before, or if you had a glass of wine. Alcohol and foods high in sodium lead to Water retention.
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How restricted is your sleeve?
jess9395 replied to GetBack_095's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Dumping syndrome is typically a bypass problem not a sleeve problem. There are a few sleevers who dump, but most of us don't. First of all, I don't understand why anyone would even try those things "early on" as you say.... But being over 2.5 years out I can speak to "later on." I was at a party about a year out and was desperately searching for something non alcoholic to drink and found "mineral water" in a bottle and poured a glass and drank some without realizing it was carbonated. Thought I was gonna die! Never again! Rice hurts also, even a few grains. Bread turns into a glue ball and feels icky... Toasted it's fine, as are crackers and such. Soft potatoes do the same. Haven't had noodles/pasta because I assume it's the same. Sugar I can tolerate more of than I probably should. Cookies and such are no problem. Fried is fine in the very limited amounts I do, I don't have an issue with one chicken strip or piece of fish and chips. Spice is fine too. -
How restricted is your sleeve?
@RealScoobyDoo replied to GetBack_095's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm 3 years out. Can't handle even one sip of soda or beer...potatoes in any form hit my stomach with a "thud" and make me miserable, so I still only have a few bites. No problem with dairy or spicy foods. Pork is okay as long as it's ground or pulled, but I have to chew any meat forever. I don't drink alcohol, but I make up for it in coffee. As far as volume goes, I can eat maybe 3/4 of a small McDonald's hamburger. No fries. 3/4 of a small hot dog in the bun, but I usually pull off half the bread of whatever I'm eating. I finally can eat salad! Took about 2 years, though. Hope this helps. Deborah Sleeve 4/2013 High 230 5'5" 198 before prep diet Low weight post op 142 Now 152 Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
